What was in the 28 redacted pages?

[Brian4Liberty]

What was in the 28 redacted pages of the "Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001" report?


Some thirteen years after the event, the shadow of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center in Manhattan and the Pentagon still darkens our world. The legacy of that terrible day has impacted not only our foreign policy, bequeathing to a new generation an apparently endless "war on terrorism," it also has led directly to what is arguably the most massive assault on our civil liberties since the Alien and Sedition Acts. Getting all the information about what happened that day – and why it happened – is key to understanding the course we have taken since.

This was supposed to have been the purpose of the 9/11 Commission, whose massive report is now looked to as the primary source on the subject. Yet there is another, far more specific investigative report, the one issued by the intelligence committees of both houses of Congress, entitled "Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001."

If you actually take the time to read the report, all goes along swimmingly (except for occasional redactions) until you get to p. 369, whereupon the text is blacked out for the next twenty-eight pages.

What is in the twenty-eight censored pages? You aren’t allowed to know that, but members of Congress can read them provided they write to the heads of the Senate and House intelligence committees and get permission. If such is granted, they are escorted into a soundproof carefully guarded room in the company of various spooks, where they get to read the material: they aren’t allowed to take notes.
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In the years since his retirement, Sen. Graham has been steadily pounding away at this point, and his persistence has usually been interpreted as a demand to reveal the extent of Saudi complicity in the attacks. And while the Saudis may well have been involved, either directly or otherwise, I would bring your attention to Graham’s statement and the introduction to the Joint Inquiry report, which indicate that more than one foreign government was involved. But if it wasn’t just the Saudis, then who else was involved?

We don’t have to rely on pure speculation, in spite of the fact that us ordinary peons in flyover country aren’t allowed to read those 28 pages. That’s because a few members of Congress have taken the trouble to apply for permission to read them, including Representatives Walter Jones (R-North Carolina), Tom Massie (R-Kentucky), and Stephen Lynch (D-Massachusetts). According to their own accounts, they came out of that soundproof spy-proof room reeling. Here’s what Jones says:

"I was absolutely shocked by what I read. What was so surprising was that those whom we thought we could trust really disappointed me…It does not deal with national security per se; it is more about relationships. The information is critical to our foreign policy moving forward and should thus be available to the American people. If the 9/11 hijackers had outside help – particularly from one or more foreign governments – the press and the public have a right to know what our government has or has not done to bring justice to the perpetrators."

"One or more foreign governments," eh? Who in the Middle East – or anywhere else, for that matter – are among "those whom we thought we could trust"? That doesn’t sound like the Saudis to me. Would anyone really be surprised or "disappointed" to learn that they were playing games behind our back?

Rep. Massie’s statement is even more revealing:

"I had to stop every two or three pages and rearrange my perception of history. And it’s that fundamental – those 28 pages… It certainly changes your view of the Middle East."
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More:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/08/28/did-certain-foreign-governments-facilitate-the-911-attacks/



Uncovering Classified Material on 9/11 Activity

August 22, 2014 – Twenty-eight pages of the Congressional report on 9/11, which is some 800 pages in total, were redacted prior to publication. The redacted information remains shielded from the public. What we do know is that, according to former Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Bob Graham, the data was redacted to “cover up Saudi activity in 9/11.”

Ron Paul is calling on you to make your voice heard by demanding the truth hidden in these 28 pages. Click here to participate in this effort.

http://www.voicesofliberty.com/audio/uncovering-classified-material-on-911-activity/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGC5hfEL4o4

[presence]

"I was absolutely shocked by what I read. What was so surprising was that those whom we thought we could trust really disappointed me…It does not deal with national security per se; it is more about relationships. The information is critical to our foreign policy moving forward and should thus be available to the American people. If the 9/11 hijackers had outside help

– particularly from one or more foreign governments –

the press and the public have a right to know what our government has or has not done to bring justice to the perpetrators."

lets seperate the bullshit from the buckwheat:

9/11 terrorists DID HAVE HELP FROM FOREIGN UNNAMED GOVERNMENTS. The Bush and Obama Administrations have chosen the path of:



Misprision and Compounding of a Felony

Obstruction and Perverting the Course of Justice
Malfeasance in Office


These are high crimes which constitute TREASON.

http://img.bulawayo24.com/articles/hanging-noose-mdn.jpg

[KCIndy]

Just do a search for Colin Powell and Prince Bandar Bin Sultan. It's all there. Just because most people are unaware does not necessarily make something a secret. ;)

[Brian4Liberty]

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28 Ways You Can Build the 28 Pages Movement
August 28, 2014

Whether you want to take your first step toward helping declassify the 28-page finding on foreign government assistance to the 9/11 hijackers, or you’re looking for even more ways to chip in than you already have, here are 28 ways you can help us build the movement.

1. Call your U.S. representative at 202-225-3121. Our Tips for Calling Congress make it easy.

2. Call the White House at 202-456-1111 and ask the president to keep his pledge to 9/11 families. Our Act page comes in handy for this one.

3. Follow @28Pages on Twitter.

4 and 5. Call your two U.S. senators at 202-224-3121 to ask them to introduce legislation similar to H.Res.428. Here’s what to say.

6. Use #declassify when discussing the subject in social media.

7. Make and then share a YouTube video like this or this…or, if you want to get your groove on, maybe even this.

8. Contact your favorite reporter, columnist, TV host, blogger or podcaster and ask them to explore the issue.

9. Write a letter to the editor of your newspaper.

10. Call in to a radio or TV talk show.

11. Bring up the 28 pages using the “comments” feature found under articles on many news and other websites and include a link to an informative page about the 28 pages.

12. Educate yourself about SR400, a little-known way the Senate can declassify the 28 pages without the President’s signature.

13. Post a comment on an elected official’s Facebook page urging them to help declassify the 28 pages and include a link to an article or video on the topic.

14. Tweet a link to 28Pages.org or other educational content.

15. Start a discussion thread about the 28 pages on any message board.

16. Like 28Pages.org on Facebook.

17. Share a 28Pages.org Facebook post.

18. Invite some friends to like 28Pages.org on Facebook.

19. Call any member of the Senate intelligence committee and ask them to use SR400 to declassify the 28 pages without need for presidential approval.

20. See if you can get a Twitter user with a large following to retweet you on the topic.

21. Explain the issue to some friends or family.

22. Visit your Congressional representative’s local office in person.

23 and 24. Visit each of your senators’ local offices in person.

25. Email your friends a link to a video of Rep. Thomas Massie’s memorable remarks on his experience of reading the 28 pages.

26. Choose any H.Res. 428 cosponsor and call to thank them for their stand.

27. Make a 28 pages bumper sticker or t-shirt (extra points for showing us your final product via social media)

28. Help us out—add your own activism idea in the comments below!

http://28pages.org/2014/08/28/28-ways-you-can-build-the-28-pages-movement/

[jjdoyle]

We already know some of it has to do with Israel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo

We've known this for a while. But hey, let's continue to fund Israel and every other country. Because we can't question our government's story. I can only imagine what information WASN'T in the report, and has since been destroyed. I mean, they have 28 pages that made it, but are still classified. Like much with the Kennedy assassination. We'll probably never know. One lone gunman. 19 lone hijackers. Move along mundane.

[jllundqu]

CNN says they are releasing them! :eek:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/politics/28-pages-on-alleged-saudi-arabia-ties-to-sept-11-attacks-to-be-released/index.html



The long-classified pages detailing alleged Saudi Arabia government ties to the 9/11 hijackers will be released by Congress as early as Friday, sources told CNN Thursday.

Known as the "28 pages," the document was part of a 2002 Congressional investigation of the Sept. 11 attacks and has been classified since the report's completion.

Sources said there are still some procedural steps that need to be taken before the release.



Rep. Adam Schiff, a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said the report will be posted on line soon.

"The House Intelligence Committee will get the redacted report today or tomorrow," Schiff said. "The Senate and House intel committees should then give the formal go ahead to release the report since they originally produced it."







Under pressure from the victims' families and lawmakers, President Barack Obama said in April his administration would declassify the pages. That same month, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said mid-June was a realistic target date for their release.

Former Senator Bob Graham, who chaired the committee that carried out the investigation, recently told CNN that when he personally went to the President in April to advocate for the release, he was told a similar timeframe was possible.

"I was told on April 12th that the decision as to whether to release the pages would be made before June 12th," Graham told CNN. "Well, we're now well beyond that date and no decision as to whether a decision is going to made has been released."

Graham said the White House was no longer returning his calls. "Immediately after June 12th, I began calling the White House to ask what is the new date for the decision to be made and a half dozen telephone calls have not been returned," he said.

Sources told CNN that intelligences agencies, law enforcement and the State Department have all reviewed and approved the release of the 28 pages with "minimal redactions."

However, a White House official told CNN, "This is a Congressional document, which we expect ultimately would be released by the Hill once the (Director of National Intelligence) has reviewed it."

Last week, Democratic and Republican House members called on the White House to fulfill its promise to declassify and make the pages public, introducing a new bill to do so if the president doesn't act.

"If the Obama administration does not move forward then we need to pass (the legislation) to have the House Intelligence Committee publish the pages," Rep. Stephen Lynch, a Democrat from Massachusetts, said at the time.

Terry Strada has been pushing for the right to sue Saudi Arabia over its alleged involvement in the attack. Her husband was working on the 104th floor of the North Tower when the planes struck. The couple had had their third child just four days earlier.

"All of this could be settled, if we would just release the 28 pages and let everyone see what's in there," Strada said. "If it was just this low-level ... government officials in the Saudi Arabian government, then they have nothing to worry about. The American people deserve this just as much as the 9/11 families deserve it, but we're the ones that are suffering by not having them released."

For its part, the Saudi government is also calling for the pages to be released so that it can respond to any allegations, which it has long called unfounded. A senior Saudi official told CNN that Riyadh will make any potential suspects available for interview by US authorities. So far, this official said, the Saudi government has received no such requests.

Methinks these are the 'new' 28 pages... switched from the original 28 pages which have the actual Saudi ties....

[Ronin Truth]

Saudi Arabia and/or Saudi personnel are a smoking gun.

Is there a PDF available of the 28 pages, yet?

[Zippyjuan]

The portions of the 28 pages which were released said the redacted info was unsubstantiated and could not be confirmed.

[milgram]

Well "unsubstantiated info" is the latest rationale in a series of shifting rationales for keeping this classified

Brian McGlinchey of 28Pages.org points out that no such claim has ever been made on the rest of this report, and asks how the information (taken from intelligence agencies) got there in the first place if it's unreliable

https://youtu.be/dsu4SuIWg60?t=13m50s

[Zippyjuan]

They listed them as potential leads which should be checked out. They didn't check out.

[phill4paul]

They listed them as potential leads which should be checked out. They didn't check out.

F.B.I.: Hello, Sheikh Ali Al-Assad, hope I'm not interrupting but we are investigating the 9/11 attack. We are seeing some money transfers to the terrorists from your account. Did you knowing give aid to the 9/11 attackers?

Sheikh Al-Assad: No.

FBI: Ah, I see very well than. We just needed to check it out. Didn't really suspect America's number one counter-terrorism partner. Have a good day.

Sheikh Al-Assad: Allahu Akbar.

<click>

[heavenlyboy34]

It will be public knowledge if and when there's nothing anyone can do about the redacted info. Same as always. SOP for the regime. :P

[Danke]

We already know some of it has to do with Israel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo

We've known this for a while. But hey, let's continue to fund Israel and every other country. Because we can't question our government's story. I can only imagine what information WASN'T in the report, and has since been destroyed. I mean, they have 28 pages that made it, but are still classified. Like much with the Kennedy assassination. We'll probably never know. One lone gunman. 19 lone hijackers. Move along mundane.

"Account Restricted. Admin to review account standing"

How long does that normally take?

[dannno]

They listed them as potential leads which should be checked out. They didn't check out.

You didn't even read it.

[enhanced_deficit]

One good thing about Bush's exit is that Saudi dictators are treated as less of a scared cow now.

On a related note, recently they float things like these also:

Saudi Press Just Accused US Govt of Blowing Up World Trade Centers as Pretext to Perpetual War (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?495784-Saudi-Press-Just-Accused-US-Govt-of-Blowing-Up-World-Trade-Centers-as-Pretext-to-Perpetual-War&)

[Zippyjuan]

You didn't even read it.

That is what the un-redacted portions said. See page 447 of the PDF (page 415 of the report). https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf


PART FOUR—FINDING, DISCUSSION AND NARRATIVE REGARDING
CERTAIN SENSITIVE NATIONAL SECURITY MATTERS

20. Finding: [Through its investigation, the Joint Inquiry developed information
suggesting specific sources of foreign support for some of the September 11 hijackers while
they were in the United States. The Joint Inquiry’s review confirmed that the Intelligence
Community also has information, much of which has yet to be independently verified,
concerning these potential sources of support. In their testimony, neither CIA nor FBI
officials were able to address definitively the extent of such support for the hijackers
globally or within the United States or the extent to which such support, if it exists, is
knowing or inadvertent in nature. Only recently, and at least in part due to the Joint
Inquiry’s focus on this issue, did the FBI and CIA strengthen their efforts to address these
issues. In the view of the Joint Inquiry, this gap in U.S. intelligence coverage is
unacceptable, given the magnitude and immediacy of the potential risk to U.S. national
security. The Intelligence Community needs to address this area of concern as aggressively
and as quickly as possible].


[It should be clear that this Joint Inquiry has made no final determinations as to the
reliability or sufficiency of the information regarding these issues that was found contained in
FBI and CIA documents. It was not the task of this Joint Inquiry to conduct the kind of
extensive investigation that would be required to determine the true significance of such alleged
support to the hijackers.

[dannno]

That is what the un-redacted portions said. See page 447 of the PDF (page 415 of the report). https://fas.org/irp/congress/2002_rpt/911rept.pdf

I'd rather hear your personal opinion on the 28 pages, after you've read them.

[Brian4Liberty]

An article by someone who bothered to read the recently released (yet redacted in key places) 28 pages:


The Saudis Did 9/11
That's what the 28 pages tell us

News reports about the recently released 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry into the 9/11 attacks are typically dismissive: this is nothing new, it’s just circumstantial evidence, and there’s no “smoking gun.” Yet given what the report actually says – and these news accounts are remarkably sparse when it comes to verbatim quotes – it’s hard to fathom what would constitute a smoking gun.

To begin with, let’s start with what’s not in these pages: there are numerous redactions. And they are rather odd. When one expects to read the words “CIA” or “FBI,” instead we get a blacked-out word. Entire paragraphs are redacted – often at crucial points. So it’s reasonable to assume that, if there is a smoking gun, it’s contained in the portions we’re not allowed to see. Presumably the members of Congress with access to the document prior to its release who have been telling us that it changes their entire conception of the 9/11 attacks – and our relationship with the Saudis – read the unredacted version. Which points to the conclusion that the omissions left out crucial information – perhaps including the vaunted smoking gun.

In any case, what we have access to makes more than just a substantial case: it shows that the Saudi government – including top officials, such as then Saudi ambassador to the US, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and other members of the royal family – financed and actively aided the hijackers prior to September 11, 2001.
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More: http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/07/17/the-saudis-did-911/

[Ronin Truth]

http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/declasspart4.pdf

[Zippyjuan]

An article by someone who bothered to read the recently released (yet redacted in key places) 28 pages:



So it’s reasonable to assume that, if there is a smoking gun, it’s contained in the portions we’re not allowed to see.

The proof is that there is no proof?

[dannno]

The proof is that there is no proof?

I see you still haven't read them yet. Are you allowed to read the 28 pages?

[dannno]

The proof is that there is no proof?

That isn't what the article said. It said there is no smoking gun, it didn't say there wasn't any proof or evidence.

A person can be convicted of murder without a smoking gun. Maybe somebody hears a gun shot, they walk in the room and there are two people - one person standing there holding a gun that just stopped smoking, and another person who is shot dead. No smoking gun, but we have a witness who heard the shot, walked in and saw the perpetrator holding the gun over the dead body with nobody else in the room. Then let's say the person who shot the guy owed them a lot of money. No smoking gun, but still plenty of evidence to convict. Motive, opportunity, witness.. Then let's say they went out and purchased the gun a week earlier. Let's say they told their girlfriend their plans to kill the guy and she testifies in court. Is that enough evidence for you, or do you still need your smoking gun?

Read the fucking 28 pages. I don't want to see any more responses from you on this topic until you do.

[Zippyjuan]

You are assuming I haven't read them because I did not say if I did or not.

[Brian4Liberty]

The proof is that there is no proof?

Is that an official talking point over there at MiniTru?

[Brian4Liberty]

You are assuming I haven't read them because I did not say if I did or not.

It doesn't matter because your relationship with the facts is tenuous at best, whether you read the pages or not.

[Zippyjuan]

Is that an official talking point over there at MiniTru?

Check out our cool planishing hammers. http://www.jtv.com/mini-tru-strike-planishing-hammer/1659159.html

[Brian4Liberty]

Is that intentionally loaded phrasing?

"Although born in the United States, Abedin was raised in Saudi Arabia and has been with Clinton for the last 20 years."


Buried in ‘missing 28 pages’ of 9/11 report is a section on Huma Abedin group and terrorism
July 17, 2016 | Michael Dorstewitz

Contained within the 28-pages of the 9/11 report Congress declassified Friday is a suggestion that a group associated with the family of longtime Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin may have had connections to the funding of terrorism.

The offices of the Abedin family business, the Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs, is located in the London offices of the World Assembly of Muslim Youth and its parent organization, the Muslim World League, according to Breitbart News.

The World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) is named as a financial supporter of terrorism in the newly-released 28 pages of the Congressional report.

The report discussed the activities of Osama bin Laden’s brother, Abdullah Bin Laden, on page 24:


According to the FBI. Abdullah Bin Ladin has a number of connections to terrorist organizations. He is the President and Director of the World Arab Muslim Youth Association (WAMY) and the Institute of Islamic and Arabic Science in America. Both organizations are local branches of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) based in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

According to the FBI, there is reason to believe that WAMY is “closely associated with the funding and financing of international terrorist activities and in the past has provided logistical support to individuals wishing to fight in the Afghan War.” In 1998, the CIA published a paper characterizing WAMY as a NGO that provides funding. logistical support and training with possible connections to the Arab Afghans network, Hamas, Algerian extremists and Philippine militants.


Although born in the United States, Abedin was raised in Saudi Arabia and has been with Clinton for the last 20 years.
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More: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07/17/buried-in-missing-28-pages-of-911-report-is-a-section-on-huma-abedin-group-and-terrorism-366128

[dannno]

You are assuming I haven't read them because I did not say if I did or not.

Only after asking several times whether you had read them and what your personal opinion about the contents was.