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martt5
08-26-2014, 04:28 PM
How many of you have heard about the Trans Pacific Partnership. The Trans Pacific Partnership Contains SOPA internet censorship in it and can censor sites like the Ron Paul forum in the name of Copyright infringement and more. I urge to google search the Trans Pacific Partnership and enter SOPA for the Trans Pacific Partnership, it is being sneaked into this bad trade deal. Please call Congress and the Senate at 2022243121 and tell them no to the Trans Pacific Partnership and tell them to say NO to Fast Track as well and let me explain Fast Track or Trade Promotion Authority.

What Fast Track or Trade Promotion Authority for the Trans Pacific Partnership is, it is usually in Congress when an international trade treaty is agreed to such as this one the Senate votes on Trade Treaties and it must be heavily debated and in order to become ratified it needs 67 votes in the Senate in order to pass and there are usually amendments or changes put into place on an international Trade Treaty. If Congress (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATE PASS TRADE PROMOTION AUTHORITY) Then an international Trade Treaty only needs 51 votes and there can be NO AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE TREATY AND NO FILIBUSTER OR STOPPING THIS TRANS PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP TREATY ONCE IT HITS THE SENATE FLOOR)

Thanks

martt5
08-26-2014, 04:29 PM
Let me explain in more detail:

Hi guys I do not know how many of you guys have heard about a dangerous trade treaty called the Trans Pacific Partnership being negotiated between the United States and 12 other mostly Communist Asian Nations . First off why would this destroy the Ron Paul forum because this treaty has sneaked in it INTERNET CENSORSHIP and we mean EXTREME internet censorship. Please read this link just posted today from the Electronic Frontier Foundation https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/08/lobbyists-get-seats-back & http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/item/17861-sopa-dead-in-congress-alive-in-trans-pacific-partnership

Not only that this Trans Pacific Partnership Treaty or TPP puts an end to affordable generic drugs http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/11/19/could-the-trans-pacific-partnership-hurt-the-drugs.aspx & http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GECON-01-100314.html

Puts an end to MADE IN THE USA on all food products including products made in America and allows unregulated food with NO INSPECTION into the US Supermarkets without ANY REGULATIONS http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/trans-pacific-partnership-free-trade-madness/ & http://www.exposethetpp.org/TPPImpacts_FoodSafety.html

There is plenty more that the Trans Pacific Partnership will do to both the left's and right's values and that includes Libertarian and Ron Paul beliefs. As you can see the Trans Pacific Partnership will end US Sovereignty as we know it and will allow the creation of New Courts that will ignore and US laws and US Constitution http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/item/16820-trans-pacific-partnership-takes-legal-authority-away-from-domestic-courts & http://www.alternet.org/world/trans-pacific-partnership-extends-tentacles-corporate-power

The end of free speech online and censoring content and so much more will happen if the Trans Pacific Partnership becomes law and Congress wants to debate the Trans Pacific Partnership after the August recess.

Sadly many Republicans favor this horrible trade treaty and many do not know what is even in this treaty, but like Congressman and minority leader Nancy Palosi the Republicans just want to pass it and then the American citizen can find out what is in it which will not be good. President Obama also favors the Trans Pacific Partnership treaty and is at odds with Democrats over this bad trade treaty. http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/gop-set-to-fast-track-new-world-order-pact/

Now as the link above states, how the Republicans plan to pass the Trans Pacific Partnership or TPP without debating the TPP trade treaty is to use a method called Fast Track and let me explain Fast Track or it's NEW name Trade Promotion Authority

What Fast Track or Trade Promotion Authority for the Trans Pacific Partnership is, it is usually in Congress when an international trade treaty is agreed to such as this one the Senate votes on Trade Treaties and it must be heavily debated and in order to become ratified it needs 67 votes in the Senate in order to pass and there are usually amendments or changes put into place on an international Trade Treaty. If Congress (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATE PASS TRADE PROMOTION AUTHORITY) Then an international Trade Treaty only needs 51 votes and there can be NO AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE TREATY AND NO FILIBUSTER OR STOPPING THIS TRANS PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP TREATY ONCE IT HITS THE SENATE FLOOR)


Read this link for more details on how Trade Promotion Authority or Fast Track is meant to SCREW the American people with this trade deal.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/17/the-trampling-pacific-partnership/

I urge you all to call Congress 2022243121 and tell them No to the Trans Pacific Partnership and Trade Promotion Authority before it is too late. You can also e-mail Congress www.house.gov (http://www.house.gov) or www.senate.gov (http://www.senate.gov)

Please as well sign this petition from the Electronic Frontier Foundation in order to stop the Trans Pacific Partnership and Trade Promotion Authority before it is TOO LATE PETITION>> https://act.eff.org/action/demand-an-end-to-secret-copyright-trade-deals <<

Please as well Facebook and Twitter this petition to friends and family alike. Let us not let the liberty movement which is promoted mostly by a free and open internet, let us not let this movement slip away. You can bet if TPP goes through the first sites that will be shut down by the Establishment Republicans and Democrats will be the liberty movement websites and Ron Paul Forum as well.

Please help stop the Trans Pacific Partnership and Fast Track or Trade Promotion Authority.

THANKS

Hi guys I do not know how many of you guys have heard about a dangerous trade treaty called the Trans Pacific Partnership being negotiated between the United States and 12 other mostly Communist Asian Nations . First off why would this destroy the Ron Paul forum because this treaty has sneaked in it INTERNET CENSORSHIP and we mean EXTREME internet censorship. Please read this link just posted today from the Electronic Frontier Foundation Because I cannot link because I am new please Google Search
Registered Lobbyists Elbow Their Way Back Into TPP Committees From EFF

Not only that this Trans Pacific Partnership Treaty or TPP puts an end to affordable generic drugs and allow only brans named drugs to be in your Pharmacies and those Brand Named drugs can set what prices they want. Just Google

Could the Trans-Pacific Partnership Hurt the Drugstores?

Puts an end to MADE IN THE USA on all food products including products made in America and allows unregulated food with NO INSPECTION into the US Supermarkets without ANY REGULATIONS Just Google:

Trans-Pacific Partnership 'free-trade madness'

There is plenty more that the Trans Pacific Partnership will do to both the left's and right's values and that includes Libertarian and Ron Paul beliefs. As you can see the Trans Pacific Partnership will end US Sovereignty as we know it and will allow the creation of New Courts that will ignore and US laws and US Constitution Google Search

Trans-Pacific Partnership Takes Legal Authority Away from Domestic Courts

The end of free speech online and censoring content and so much more will happen if the Trans Pacific Partnership becomes law and Congress wants to debate the Trans Pacific Partnership after the August recess.

Sadly many Republicans favor this horrible trade treaty and many do not know what is even in this treaty, but like Congressman and minority leader Nancy Palosi the Republicans just want to pass it and then the American citizen can find out what is in it which will not be good. President Obama also favors the Trans Pacific Partnership treaty and is at odds with Democrats over this bad trade treaty.

Now as the link above states, how the Republicans plan to pass the Trans Pacific Partnership or TPP without debating the TPP trade treaty is to use a method called Fast Track and let me explain Fast Track or it's NEW name Trade Promotion Authority

What Fast Track or Trade Promotion Authority for the Trans Pacific Partnership is, it is usually in Congress when an international trade treaty is agreed to such as this one the Senate votes on Trade Treaties and it must be heavily debated and in order to become ratified it needs 67 votes in the Senate in order to pass and there are usually amendments or changes put into place on an international Trade Treaty. If Congress (HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATE PASS TRADE PROMOTION AUTHORITY) Then an international Trade Treaty only needs 51 votes and there can be NO AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE TREATY AND NO FILIBUSTER OR STOPPING THIS TRANS PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP TREATY ONCE IT HITS THE SENATE FLOOR)



I urge you all to call Congress 2022243121 and tell them No to the Trans Pacific Partnership and Trade Promotion Authority before it is too late. You can also e-mail your Congressmen and Senators.

Please as well sign this petition from the Electronic Frontier Foundation in order to stop the Trans Pacific Partnership and Trade Promotion Authority before it is TOO LATE

Google Search

Demand an End to Secret Copyright Trade Deals by EFF

Please as well Facebook and Twitter this petition to friends and family alike. Let us not let the liberty movement which is promoted mostly by a free and open internet, let us not let this movement slip away. You can bet if TPP goes through the first sites that will be shut down by the Establishment Republicans and Democrats will be the liberty movement websites and Ron Paul Forum as well.

Please help stop the Trans Pacific Partnership and Fast Track or Trade Promotion Authority.

THANKS

moostraks
08-26-2014, 05:08 PM
Hi I do not know how many of you here on the Ron Paul Forum have heard about an international trade Treaty between the United States and 12 other mostly Communist Dictator Asian nations that is being done in secret, as a matter of fact it is so secret even Congress is not aware of what exactly is in this Trade Treaty called the Trans Pacific Partnership. What we do know and it is only because Wikileaks released some of the text to this Treaty is that this Trans Pacific Partnership or TPP treaty contains SOPA internet censorship which could harm and shut down sites like this and even lead to felonies for people posting a link to a news article bacause of copyright infringement, End Generic Drugs for good as this Trade Treaty extends patents and raise prices even higher for brand named drugs, ends MADE IN THE USA on food products which means your food could be made in Vietnam and because this treaty has little enforcement of food protections you could end up eating something poisonous kind of like what happened when dog food got made in China and dogs got sick and died, will put patents on life saving surgeries in which hospitals if lets say GOD FORBID you were in a car accident the Hospital may not be able to perform the life saving surgery because they may not have the patent right to perform the surgery and so much more secret agreement that many are saying this Treaty may END US Sovereignty and I should mention as well this treaty also establishes NEW COURTS that make the US Constitution and FREE SPEECH null and void.

Please click these 2 links to learn more about this dangerous and US Sovereignty killing Trade Treaty:

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2014/02/08/18750500.php

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/14/experts-leaked-copy-of-secret-trade-treaty-exposes-corporate-cronyism/

Youtube Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k95w7TuWz0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEO0faMuZoY

Now Congress (THE HOUSE AND SENATE) is planning on a procedure that President Obama favors to get this Trade Treaty passed called Fast Track or Trade Promotion Authority. What this means is that instead of the usual 67 votes to pass an International Trade Treaty this treaty would only require 51 votes in the Senate to pass this Trade Treaty and it would require that the senate give up it's right to Filibuster and change this bad international Trade Treaty called the Trans Pacific Partnership.

Please click here to learn more about Fast Track: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/17/the-trampling-pacific-partnership/

I urge you all on this forum to call Congress 2022243121 and tell them NO to Fast Track or Trade Promotion Authority and tell them NO to the Trans Pacific Partnership. Don't let the US lose the free and open internet and it's Sovereignty to Communist Anti Christian Nations. Fight the Trans Pacific Partnership and Trade Promotion Authority.

Please as well sign these 3 petitions below & Facebook and Twiiter them to Friends and Family to stop the Trans Pacific Partnership TPP and Trade Promotion Authority TPA

From the Electronic Frontier Foundation
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/02/obama-pushes-tpp-despite-mounting-opposition

From Food Democracy Now:

http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/sign/stop_tpp_tafta_monsanto_protection_act_on_steroids/

From many coalitions trying to stop Fast Track and the Trans Pacific Partnership:

http://www.stopfasttrack.com/

THANKS.

??? Why not just bump this thread from February? http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?444633-Trade-Treaty-Trans-Pacific-Partnership-has-SOPA-Internet-Censorship-and-End-of-US-Sovernity&highlight=tpp+sopa Your copy/paste seems to be stuttering with the new rendition of this.

DamianTV
08-26-2014, 05:27 PM
We are aware of the TPP and the threat it poses. Unfortunately for most people, the consequences will result in sites like RPF being shut down and become nothing more than a fading memory. Very few people would react to RPF being shut down by the language in the TPP if they noticed at all. Shut down Facebook however, and there would be riots in the streets within hours.

Well intentioned but Trust still needs to be earned. Post a bit more so we can see the quality of your character.

Natural Citizen
08-26-2014, 05:39 PM
Thank you martt5. I would add to your reminder of this terrible, so called, "Trade" deal that much of the sanction speak that we hear today is a product of those who would endorse this. This is essentially legalizing the corporate infringement of sovereign nations abroad. A fair example of the issues that may arise as a result of this brand of foreign policy would be what we see in the Ukraine at the moment. And these corporations, although they enjoy the gift of American citizenship and all of the rights contained, they have no allegiance to any nation.

'Slaughterhouse': Civilians die in Kiev's ruthless military attacks (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?452897-Slaughterhouse-Civilians-die-in-Kiev-s-ruthless-military-attacks-(GRAPHIC))

I would also encourage you to share information relevant to the so called "Russian Aggression Prevention Act" which is a product of the same folks who bring us the TPP.

Read more here about that...

Russian Aggression Prevention Act of 2014 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?456813-Russian-Aggression-Prevention-Act-of-2014&p=5603285&viewfull=1#post5603285)

Please do econtinue to encourage awareness and stimulate discussion on the issue. Even where it may be forgotten. Especially where it is forgotten.

Natural Citizen
08-26-2014, 05:41 PM
??? Why not just bump this thread from February? http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?444633-Trade-Treaty-Trans-Pacific-Partnership-has-SOPA-Internet-Censorship-and-End-of-US-Sovernity&highlight=tpp+sopa Your copy/paste seems to be stuttering with the new rendition of this.

I wouldn't say that the op is offering a new rendition of the so called "Trade" deal. There is a lot to it. And so we cannot just say that because we have a thread on it some place that the thread contains complete relevance. It seldom does and is why awareness of the thing becomes so fragmented. And subsequently any activism relative to it.

I kind of fault the mods for letting some of the more critical threads that pertain to the so called "Trade" deal that we have here (and there are many) become fragmented and buried but, unfortunately, it is beyond control. And you can't really blame our people because it just goes back to what I was saying about fragmented awareness or selective concern for it. Or selective concern for what they have read of it...again, usually in a fragmented way. Really, a search isn't even practical for use as a tool or mechanism to become informed with regard to developments and current events that are a product of this thing or the setting up of the infrastructure to make it the norm because most of the threads where relevance is discussed in it's most critical way don't even contain the term "TPP" or "Trans Pacific blah, blah, blah..."

idiom
08-26-2014, 06:02 PM
Feels like a dude posting on every forum on the internet to raise awareness.

Or a bot.

Natural Citizen
08-26-2014, 06:03 PM
Feels like a dude posting on every forum on the internet to raise awareness.

Or a bot.

The more the merrier. Like moostraks was saying, the last time it was mentioned here was February. At least specifically.

moostraks
08-26-2014, 07:53 PM
The more the merrier. Like moostraks was saying, the last time it was mentioned here was February. At least specifically.
The post is so similar to the one in February, it appears to be a bot.

DamianTV
08-26-2014, 08:05 PM
If it is a bot, I'll take bots like this anyday over those bots that post crap for Viagra.

One update that most people seem to not be aware of is that an even worse version of CIPSA is already in the works, called CISA, so basically the same thing, but none of the safeguards. I think the similarity of the acronyms is there to make people conclude something that simply isnt true. They'll think CISA, the worserer one, but remember CISPA, and recall facts from that.

Natural Citizen
11-08-2014, 02:36 PM
We want to remasin astute to things like SOPA and whatnot so I'm just going to bump this so as to avoid introducing the same discussion and having to start all over again. Which is simply counterintuitive.

Of course, that so called "Russian Agreesian Prevention Act" is still out there. That thing is a hawk's dream because it's permised solely upon the fear porn that we've seen from legacy/corporate media and some of these folks looking to sanction.

Aside - US, NATO say no evidence of new 'Russian invasion' of Ukraine (http://rt.com/news/203367-us-nato-russian-invasion/)

Ronin Truth
11-08-2014, 03:00 PM
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Trans+Pacific+Partnership

Ronin Truth
11-08-2014, 03:04 PM
Rand wants Obama to Fastrack the TPP? :confused:

What is Ron's opinion of it?

Natural Citizen
11-08-2014, 03:09 PM
Rand wants Obama to Fastrack the TPP? :confused:



Rand Paul to Obama: "Prioritize" Passage of Trans-Pacific Partnership (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?462733-Rand-Paul-to-Obama-quot-Prioritize-quot-Passage-of-Trans-Pacific-Partnership&p=5694946&viewfull=1#post5694946)