Propaganda Alert: without National ID card, you may be banned from boarding airplanes in 2016

[Massachusetts]

There is a serious push for a national ID card right now. It is an issue that I think more folks should pay attention to. I know it's hard with all the mud they are slinging right now, but read this propaganda piece to get Massachusetts residents to buy into a national ID card.


Susan Podziba couldn’t enter a federal building near Washington this month because her driver’s license revealed an unacceptable home state: Massachusetts.

Bay State residents can no longer use their driver’s licenses to get inside some government agencies because the state is one of nine that have not signed on to a federal law called REAL ID. If nothing changes, they will even lose the ability to display their licenses to board a plane.

The REAL ID measure presses states to verify citizenship and update security standards when they issue licenses. Congress intended the act to prevent terrorists who arrive in the country illegally from boarding planes. But officials in Massachusetts and elsewhere have balked at a program they claim costs millions, raises privacy concerns, and infringes on state’s rights.

States face no direct penalty other than the frustration of their citizens.

Some restrictions — such as the one that kept Podziba, a public policy mediator from Brookline, out of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration — began in late July.

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Unless the state decides to participate, Massachusetts residents without other identification will find themselves banned from White House tours next year and commercial airplanes as soon as 2016.



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[Anti Federalist]

Yeah, the FedCoats kept pushing the date back.

Looks like they finally waited out the opposition.

Not a fuck will be given, other than the whinging of Mundanes kept off planes and outside federal buildings.

[HOLLYWOOD]

It's all PROPAGANDA bullshit...

Just try getting a drivers license today in ANY state... you need a real birth certificate(not Barry Soetoro issued toilet paper), passport, Social Security card, gov DD-214, etc, etc, etc ... it was all imposed with BS legislation post 9/11 excuse.

This can be called; not "State Tracking Device ID" but National "Tracking Your Ass Everywhere ID"

It's the biggest farce and lie by the Boston Globe and Federal clowns.

[Anti Federalist]

Why do you hate AmeriKa and puppy dogs, comrade?



It's all PROPAGANDA bullshit...

Just try getting a drivers license today in ANY state... you need a real birth certificate(not Barry Soetoro issued toilet paper), passport, Social Security card, gov DD-214, etc, etc, etc ... it was all imposed with BS legislation post 9/11 excuse.

This can be called; not "State Tracking Device ID" but National "Tracking Your Ass Everywhere ID"

It's the biggest farce and lie by the Boston Globe and Federal clowns.

[aGameOfThrones]

Yet when states want to make Voter ID laws the Feds want to stop them.

[Anti Federalist]

Yet when states want to make Voter ID laws the Feds want to stop them.

That would not serve the state comrade.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Why do you hate AmeriKa and puppy dogs, comrade?well, some remember, way way back, where Social Security numbers were used only so you could collect a fractional refund from the money stolen from you during decades of work snatched by the Uncle PONZI leash... now your SS ID is controlled by Uncle Orwell.

[oyarde]

I kind of planned on buying a newer vehicle in 2019 , until then , ones I have will still make it across the country.

[tangent4ronpaul]

AWESOME! - so not getting one of these things will prevent me from getting sexually molested!

Not that I fly anyway, primarily for that very reason.

Great economic warfare policy fuds.

-t

umm, what are the other states that are holdouts. I know there are people that maintain residences in multiple states but only one is there main one. Like could I rent someones closet and... I think I'd take tax hit doing this, but it would probably be worth it...

like my dad told me: avoid getting a SS number as long as possible.

[TheTexan]

The Feds are already hooked into the state driver license databases, all this would do is make identification slightly more efficient. There's no reason to hate government efficiency, unless of course, you just hate government, or think that this efficiency will someday turned against you violently, which is of course just silly.

[tangent4ronpaul]

The Feds are already hooked into the state driver license databases, all this would do is make identification slightly more efficient. There's no reason to hate government efficiency, unless of course, you just hate government, or think that this efficiency will someday turned against you violently, which is of course just silly.

You forgot the /sarc

and don't forget the RFID chip and the biometrics on the card.

That's the kind of crap that would make me want to "forget" my ID at home like I often do with my cell phone if it's not RF shielded.

Screw the USSA STASI!

-t

[Edward777]

The USA is quickly evolving into the police state people only envisioned in dystopian novels a few years ago.

[56ktarget]

Paulite thinking-

1. "Deport illegal immigrants NOW! I can't believe the Feds are giving OUR money to these moochers! DEPORT NOW!!!! Goddamn socialists!!!"
2. *Feds institute program designed to catch illegal immigrants*
3. "I can't believe these MARXISTS are taking away our FREEDOM and LIBERTY! Don't they know never to sacrifice them for security?"

And this isn't even getting into their hypocrisy over voter id... Lol. Says people should need ID to vote, gets mad when govt tries to institute national id policy. Lol.

[acptulsa]

Paulite thinking-

Is something you have clearly demonstrated that you do not begin to understand.


1. "Deport illegal immigrants NOW! I can't believe the Feds are giving OUR money to these moochers! DEPORT NOW!!!! Goddamn socialists!!!"

You wouldn't be confusing us with someone else, would you? Considering you've seen most people here say, over and over, 'Stop giving them Fed money and we won't have to worry about them at all,' and you've seen most of the rest say, 'Open borders NOW!'


2. *Feds institute program designed to catch illegal immigrants...

...and third party voters and tax evaders and draft dodgers and peacenik internet bloggers and corporate critiquers and people with genetic tendencies toward Parkinson's and...


3. "I can't believe these MARXISTS are taking away our FREEDOM and LIBERTY! Don't they know never to sacrifice them for security?"

Well? Don't you?


And this isn't even getting into their hypocrisy over voter id... Lol. Says people should need ID to vote, gets mad when govt tries to institute national id policy. Lol.

Number one, where do you see, on this forum or anywhere else genuine libertarians congregate, voter ID taking precedence over peace, prosperity, liberty, justice, or even freedom from Monsanto in attention or importance? Number two, what kind of mental aberration does it take to convince someone that a nationwide program and biometrics are necessary to ensure that the grand Democratic tradition of dead men voting is brought to a halt? We could do that with 1968 licenses with fingerprints in place of photos...

Are you ever going to figure out that your cause would best be served by quitting while you're behind? 'Cause the only way the powers that be and lovers of the status quo will ever get their money's worth out of your arguments is if you pay them for the honor of making them look bad.

[bolil]

Paulite thinking-

1. "Deport illegal immigrants NOW! I can't believe the Feds are giving OUR money to these moochers! DEPORT NOW!!!! Goddamn socialists!!!"
2. *Feds institute program designed to catch illegal immigrants*
3. "I can't believe these MARXISTS are taking away our FREEDOM and LIBERTY! Don't they know never to sacrifice them for security?"

And this isn't even getting into their hypocrisy over voter id... Lol. Says people should need ID to vote, gets mad when govt tries to institute national id policy. Lol.

You are all about murdering straw. Do you take issue with livestock? Those here that are against illegal immigration are against it because they see that it empowers the welfare state, they are not against the immigration itself. The Real ID isn't about catching illegal immigrants, clearly that isn't a priority or so many wouldn't be getting let go (which I am okay with, despite the welfare state). Marxists? True "Marxists" are few and far between, you and your kind fit more facets of the fascist mold-- IE Advocating for state control over the means of production-- which would still be exploitation of individual human creativity according to the Marxist perspective. I am not a unicorn and you are not a Marxist. Don't insult the man with pretensions to his philosophy.

[DamianTV]

Illegal Immigration, from the Govts perspective, is not about keeping non citizens out, its about keeping citizens in.

National ID id what enables this, and it will come in the form of other existing identification, such as State Drivers License. Why is your SSN on there already? Because it is a National ID and has been for years, complete with RFID and Biometric Bullshit. I dont know how many people remember the REAL ID Act that was tacked on to some other bill (I dont recall which one at the moment), but no one debated, it was just attached to something else.

As far as flying, I have zero desire to fly, and pay assholes to grope me, spread my buttocks, and feel like I am constantly forced to prove that I am not a terrorist at EVERY turn. Why would I throw money at companies that profit from this shit?

[Mani]

But but...it's for the children!

It's to keep us safe!!



Closing the border? Fuck that. Once the border is closed, guess what you are doing to yourselves:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r6YdxswOA0M/UnvzQZlHPCI/AAAAAAAAC1E/DRnBC6sbo24/s640/Poland+-+Auschwitz+Birkenau+-+German+Nazi+ConcentrationExtermination+Camp+(1940-45).jpg


http://thormay.net/lxesl/ZZESL_Holmes/zzesl/images/99E8A8BA27D10E01632FD73072BF742B9B95DAC8.gif


https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3337/3549328824_091cc7d4fc.jpg





On the promise of keeping illegal immigrants out....guess who will be kept in? But boobus won't even notice because it will be called a Freedom Fence and painted red white and blue and the masses will cheer.


No one will mind the border patrol agents setting up checkpoints all over the country and asking for your National ID card at every turn until it's too late...or maybe not at all. Because it keeps us safe...

[DamianTV]

Yeah, for THEIR children, certainly not ours. Ours are shot over bringing paperclips and pencils to skool.

[alucard13mm]

I read tsa agents are told to let illegal immigrants onto passenger airplanes even with invalid id. Lol. Seems it is better to be an illegal than a citizen.

[Christian Liberty]

Paulite thinking-

1. "Deport illegal immigrants NOW! I can't believe the Feds are giving OUR money to these moochers! DEPORT NOW!!!! Goddamn socialists!!!"
2. *Feds institute program designed to catch illegal immigrants*
3. "I can't believe these MARXISTS are taking away our FREEDOM and LIBERTY! Don't they know never to sacrifice them for security?"

And this isn't even getting into their hypocrisy over voter id... Lol. Says people should need ID to vote, gets mad when govt tries to institute national id policy. Lol.

I don't think anyone here supports mass deportation. Well... MAYBE LE.

[JK/SEA]

Paulite thinking-

1. "Deport illegal immigrants NOW! I can't believe the Feds are giving OUR money to these moochers! DEPORT NOW!!!! Goddamn socialists!!!"
2. *Feds institute program designed to catch illegal immigrants*
3. "I can't believe these MARXISTS are taking away our FREEDOM and LIBERTY! Don't they know never to sacrifice them for security?"

And this isn't even getting into their hypocrisy over voter id... Lol. Says people should need ID to vote, gets mad when govt tries to institute national id policy. Lol.

meh...i voted for Bill Clitton twice...then became a State delegate for Ron Paul.....you?....you're stuck in the left/right paradigm ...and apparently for life...

i'm going to flag your post and hope you get banned. Just want you to know i hope my flagging gets you the hell out of here. You are not interested in civil discourse, and you are not willing to learn something from true Patriots and forward thinking and intelligent individuals in RPF.

Sad, truly sad. Go in peace, but just go.

[nayjevin]

Paulite thinking-

1. "Deport illegal immigrants NOW! I can't believe the Feds are giving OUR money to these moochers! DEPORT NOW!!!! Goddamn socialists!!!"
2. *Feds institute program designed to catch illegal immigrants*
3. "I can't believe these MARXISTS are taking away our FREEDOM and LIBERTY! Don't they know never to sacrifice them for security?"

And this isn't even getting into their hypocrisy over voter id... Lol. Says people should need ID to vote, gets mad when govt tries to institute national id policy. Lol.

If you lump people into a group you will find disagreements among them. It's not valid to call it hypocrisy. It's not a 'we' or a 'they' it's individuals with varying beliefs. Pointing out hypocrisy is fine, but it exists within an individual, not a group.

[pcosmar]

And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Yeah,, go ahead and ignore it.
You don't believe all that shit anyway.

:(

[nayjevin]

Yeah,, go ahead and ignore it.
You don't believe all that shit anyway.

:(

Are you implying that the RealID is fulfillment of prophecy?

Seems to me that authoritarians are likely to implement systems of control involving identification. Seems near axiomatic, but nothing superstitious about it.

[pcosmar]

Are you implying that the RealID is fulfillment of prophecy?



A fulfillment?
Not necessarily,, but definitely another step in that direction. And on the same principle. for the same purpose.

[kahless]

I suspect the media will be pushing for it over the next few years so that the average Joe will eventually think it is a good idea to have nationwide. The Neocon pundits will sell it as a solution to protect us from ISIS-terrorists coming across the Mexican border and as a voter ID. The left will want it as a document that allows illegals to get drivers licenses, welfare and healthcare benefits.

[nobody's_hero]

I'm surprised anyone wants to fly as it is.

[XNavyNuke]

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2014/08/24/one-state-can-lead-the-charge/


The REAL ID Act, as it would be called, imposed a national standard by forcing the states to adopt uniform standards for their identification cards – or did it?

Maine responded by passing a resolution in 2007 that refused any type of REAL ID adoption in the state. Surely, Maine’s legislature was warned by opponents who dreaded the thought of opposing the federal juggernaut. Leading the charge, Maine showed that one state can stand up against the iron will of the federal state.

When Maine stood up, Utah took notice. Utah passed a similar bill a month later. The Utah law noted that REAL ID is “in opposition to the Jeffersonian principles of individual liberty, free markets, and limited government.” Since that time, 22 states passed similar bills and resolutions, creating additional opposition toward the national standard. Similar resolutions are pending in over a dozen additional states.

As a result, the REAL ID Act has been effectively neutered in much of the country. The federal government has not elected to devote its resources to enforce the mandate, sue the participating states, or send in the tanks as a result.

So if its neutered, why do people in MA even care? Are the talking heads typing their stories from Martha's Vineyard just so in love with Uncle Sugar?

XNN

[Zippyjuan]

I read tsa agents are told to let illegal immigrants onto passenger airplanes even with invalid id. Lol. Seems it is better to be an illegal than a citizen.

Link?

[presence]

Not a fuck will be given, other than the whinging of Mundanes kept off planes and outside federal buildings.


IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776

[]

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
..

[presence]

Link?

keyword: I-862 form tsa

http://dailysignal.com/2014/08/25/illegal-immigrant-air-tsa-allows-illegal-immigrants-board-planes-without-ids/

(http://dailysignal.com/2014/08/25/illegal-immigrant-air-tsa-allows-illegal-immigrants-board-planes-without-ids/)

[Zippyjuan]

Thanks for the link. Doesn't say they are ordering TSA to let them on airlines without ID- ID is still required.


The letter from TSA administrator John Pistole states that NTAs, as government-issued documents, may be used in alternative processes to board planes. The TSA insists that the issuance of the NTA requires checking various biographic and biometric databases to ensure that the illegal immigrant is not a dangerous individual.


The TSA letter says that if the NTA is used, the passenger is to provide “other identifying information such as a photo, address, phone number, social security number, or date of birth.”


If another ID is not provided, TSA can ask other government agencies to provide corroborating evidence. According to the TSA letter, this corroboration can be as little as having another agency certify that the NTA “was issued to an individual with the name provided.”

[R.G]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvwVlx2AJzo

[Acala]

I'm in favor of open borders. Even Ron Paul said illegal immigrants are scapegoats.

And I am opposed to the driver's license because I am opposed to public roads.

All pretty consistent I think.

[R.G]

Acala, after blowing your credibility with me with this comment it will be quicker for me next time I see your comments.

[Massachusetts]

I'm surprised anyone wants to fly as it is.

Some people don't have a choice. You can't exactly spend hours upon hours driving when you travel around the country for business.

[idiom]

You mean like a passport? I always present my passport when flying.

You people are weird.

[moostraks]

Acala, after blowing your credibility with me with this comment it will be quicker for me next time I see your comments.

Interesting posting style to this one here^^^ I am sure Acala will lose sleep over not being found credible by new poster.

[DamianTV]

Well, this thread just made it on the Front Page of INFOWARS! Now lets see what happens in this thread...

[nobody's_hero]

Some people don't have a choice. You can't exactly spend hours upon hours driving when you travel around the country for business.

I think I would choose my dignity over a job which requires airline travel, given that you're potentially going to be pulled at random to be stripped down to the threads of your boxers while a handful of TSA agents, who have already raped you through taxation to fund their purposeless jobs, want to fondle your goods and treat you like cattle. Then you get into a confined space and fly thousands of feet above the earth's surface only to find out your plane has to perform an emergency landing because some mundane who the TSA didn't manage to weed out with their totally random and useless searches, pulled his bottle of cologne out of a Ziploc bag, violating the airline safety policy and therefore he's automatically a terrorist until proven otherwise and yes, there WILL be a cowboy-Rambo SWAT team waiting on the tarmac to detain and search everyone on the plane after it lands. Maybe they'll even throw a few flashbangs for effect.

But that's just me. Who am I to judge someone who thinks their job is worth all that?

[R.G]

Interesting posting style to this one here^^^ I am sure Acala will lose sleep over not being found credible by new poster.

oh 2007 join date - u da kingfish - cow don't make ham - U & Acala don't like public roads, right - U think u r God

so manly - could you please speak more clearly??

moostraks YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS - join date pecking order

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oblbLHYu6uY

[acptulsa]

oh 2007 join date - u da kingfish - cow don't make ham - U & Acala don't like public roads, right - U think u r God

God doesn't think she thinks she's God.


so manly -

She is?


could you please speak more clearly??

LOL Kettle, meet pot. No, make that glass, meet the pot that's calling you black because a fly landed on you.


moostraks YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS - join date pecking order

No, we actually like her because she's not an obnoxious troll here to be a pain in the ass, but rather to have adult conversations.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oblbLHYu6uY

If you could play the guitar like that, we'd forgive you for being a pain in the ass like that. Maybe.

[moostraks]

oh 2007 join date - u da kingfish - cow don't make ham - U & Acala don't like public roads, right - U think u r God

so manly - could you please speak more clearly??

moostraks YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS - join date pecking order

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oblbLHYu6uY

Just found it interesting that someone with 37 posts is spending time taking names and making a naughty list as if it is relevant to the conversation. Not to mention being the language police.

I never commented on the roads issue but nice try in chastising without any data on my opinion. So supporting private roads=god complex? Alrighty there. Any other issues we need to comply with on your list of acceptable beliefs we can hold to not be insulted?

[moostraks]

God doesn't think she thinks she's God.



She is?



LOL Kettle, meet pot. No, make that glass, meet the pot that's calling you black because a fly landed on you.



No, we actually like her because she's not an obnoxious troll here to be a pain in the ass, but rather to have adult conversations.



If you could play the guitar like that, we'd forgive you for being a pain in the ass like that. Maybe.

Lol! Thanks acptulsa...

[R.G]

nice acptulsa, you can go into other people's posts and switch them around. Can all of you old timers go into other people posts and tamper with them or are you special? I had no idea that moonstraks was a woman, my wife would never say that because someone is new that their credibility is diminished. But my wife is DAR.

When Senator Phil Gramm(R-TX) told me in 1993, "The liberals shy away from the MSA like vampires to the cross," you old-timers were fighting the Socialists then too, right? If not, I welcome you newbies to the fight because we need all the help we can get. It does bother me that RPF lets my posts be tampered with. It really bothers me that you would do that to a video of Libertarian Adrian Wyllie talking about being arrested for fighting Real ID. What were you thinking acptulsa?

[R.G]

thanks for switching the post back. Moonstruck get over the fact you were here 1st, really. 37 posts, 37 posts is that code for something?

[TheCount]

http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http://images.wikia.com/thebiglebowski/images/7/7a/The-big-lebowski-reunion-animated-gifs-15.gif&size=400x1000

[Anti Federalist]

nice acptulsa, you can go into other people's posts and switch them around. Can all of you old timers go into other people posts and tamper with them or are you special? I had no idea that moonstraks was a woman, my wife would never say that because someone is new that their credibility is diminished. But my wife is DAR.

When Senator Phil Gramm(R-TX) told me in 1993, "The liberals shy away from the MSA like vampires to the cross," you old-timers were fighting the Socialists then too, right? If not, I welcome you newbies to the fight because we need all the help we can get. It does bother me that RPF lets my posts be tampered with. It really bothers me that you would do that to a video of Libertarian Adrian Wyllie talking about being arrested for fighting Real ID. What were you thinking acptulsa?

http://img.pandawhale.com/77971-marty-mcfly-WHAT-gif-zkEh.gif

[acptulsa]

nice acptulsa, you can go into other people's posts and switch them around.

No.


Can all of you old timers go into other people posts and tamper with them or are you special?

Nobody can do that but mods. Yes, I am special, but I'm not extra special the way you seem to be.


I had no idea that moonstraks was a woman, my wife would never say that because someone is new that their credibility is diminished. But my wife is DAR.

How sweet. So, she doesn't think newbies lack credibility but she's a member of the Mayflower Club. Well, well. And will you tell her that moostrak's people met them at the boat?


When Senator Phil Gramm(R-TX) told me in 1993, "The liberals shy away from the MSA like vampires to the cross," you old-timers were fighting the Socialists then too, right? If not, I welcome you newbies to the fight because we need all the help we can get.

Having fun building yourself a scarecrow? 'Cause I voted for Ron Paul in 1988...


It does bother me that RPF lets my posts be tampered with. It really bothers me that you would do that to a video of Libertarian Adrian Wyllie talking about being arrested for fighting Real ID. What were you thinking acptulsa?

What am I alleged to have done to that video, and do I get a trial before I'm convicted...?

[R.G]

acptulsa, I believe you. Must have been a mod. Anyway it's switched back now. I sure you have done more than just vote and blog, I can tell.

[Mani]

I suspect the media will be pushing for it over the next few years so that the average Joe will eventually think it is a good idea to have nationwide. The Neocon pundits will sell it as a solution to protect us from ISIS-terrorists coming across the Mexican border and as a voter ID. The left will want it as a document that allows illegals to get drivers licenses, welfare and healthcare benefits.

+REP

And those who go against it will be accused of hating immigrants and loving terrorists. So you can't oppose it without being chastised by both sides.



Even if RealID is killed at the state level, the Federal gov't will reincarnate it as FREEDOM Badges. Need to keep a watchful eye.

[The Free Hornet]

When Senator Phil Gramm(R-TX) told me in 1993, "The liberals shy away from the MSA like vampires to the cross," you old-timers were fighting the Socialists then too, right? If not, I welcome you newbies to the fight because we need all the help we can get. It does bother me that RPF lets my posts be tampered with. It really bothers me that you would do that to a video of Libertarian Adrian Wyllie talking about being arrested for fighting Real ID. What were you thinking acptulsa?

Phil Gramm is exactly the type of socialist I've opposed for years, a big government statist:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Phil_Gramm.htm
(pro drug war, pro Iraq war, second amendment violations)
(pro foreign drug wars, a double whammy (http://issues2000.org/Domestic/Phil_Gramm_Drugs.htm))

Why was he personally telling you stuff anyway? You should have told him to fuck off.

I read my first libertarian book in 1988 and haven't forgotten the lessons. Lessons that Phil Gramm never learned:

Economics in One Lesson - Ludwig von Mises Institute (https://mises.org/books/economics_in_one_lesson_hazlitt.pdf)
[Inflation-adjusted price of FREE!]


A million copy seller, Henry Hazlitt’s Economics in One Lesson is a classic economic primer. But it is also much more, having become a fundamental influence on modern “libertarian” economics of the type espoused by Ron Paul and others.

Considered among the leading economic thinkers of the “Austrian School,” which includes Carl Menger, Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich (F.A.) Hayek, and others, Henry Hazlitt (1894-1993), was a libertarian philosopher, an economist, and a journalist. He was the founding vice-president of the Foundation for Economic Education and an early editor of The Freeman magazine, an influential libertarian publication. Hazlitt wrote Economics in One Lesson, his seminal work, in 1946. Concise and instructive, it is also deceptively prescient and far-reaching in its efforts to dissemble economic fallacies that are so prevalent they have almost become a new orthodoxy.

Many current economic commentators across the political spectrum have credited Hazlitt with foreseeing the collapse of the global economy which occurred more than 50 years after the initial publication of Economics in One Lesson. Hazlitt’s focus on non-governmental solutions, strong — and strongly reasoned — anti-deficit position, and general emphasis on free markets, economic liberty of individuals, and the dangers of government intervention make Economics in One Lesson, every bit as relevant and valuable today as it has been since publication.

A straightforward analysis of economic fallacies that are so prevalent that they have almost become a new orthodoxy.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/economics-in-one-lesson-henry-hazlitt/1100331987?ean=9780517548233#product-commentaries-1

[idiom]

HOW DO YOU PEOPLE NOT HAVE PASSPORTS? Have none of you ever been outside of your own damn country?

Everyone I know has a passport.

[R.G]

Phil Gramm is exactly the type of socialist I've opposed for years, a big government statist:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Phil_Gramm.htm
(pro drug war, pro Iraq war, second amendment violations)
(pro foreign drug wars, a double whammy (http://issues2000.org/Domestic/Phil_Gramm_Drugs.htm))

Why was he personally telling you stuff anyway? You should have told him to fuck off.

I read my first libertarian book in 1988 and haven't forgotten the lessons. Lessons that Phil Gramm never learned:

Economics in One Lesson - Ludwig von Mises Institute (https://mises.org/books/economics_in_one_lesson_hazlitt.pdf)
[Inflation-adjusted price of FREE!]
I was involved with stopping Hillary care if you really need to know The Free Hornet. I was running Iowa and Nebraska for the National Association for the Self Employed. The largest association of self-employed people in America. Phil Gramm was the first person to tell me about this idea about a tax-free savings account with tax-free deposits, growth and withdrawals, total tax freedom. I'm sure you know all about them because Ron Paul has been a big supporter of tax-free MSA before I wrote the 1st one in the United States in 1996. In 1996 I was running the largest agency in the United States for TIME Insurance Company, America's oldest health insurance company. Time is in 43 states and no other insurance company is even close. I'm sure you probably have a tax free account because it is very similar to an IQ test. Do you want to pay taxes on every dollar earned or would you prefer to go tax free? Tell me The Free Hornet, where do you have your tax-free HSA with?

TIME was owned by FORTIS, the 18th largest company in the world doing $4.5 Billion net annually. When I got the award for the first tax-free MSA we were in Paris at the La Grand hotel across from the Paris Opera. FORTIS rented out the Paris Opera for the formal presentation. Tell me The Free Hornet, what do you do and who do you have your tax-free HSA with, just wondering? You sound like a pretty smart guy. I usually don't tell anybody to fuXk off, sorry.

[moostraks]

I was involved with stopping Hillary care if you really need to know The Free Hornet. I was running Iowa and Nebraska for the National Association for the Self Employed. The largest association of self-employed people in America. Phil Gramm was the first person to tell me about this idea about a tax-free savings account with tax-free deposits, growth and withdrawals, total tax freedom. I'm sure you know all about them because Ron Paul has been a big supporter of tax-free MSA before I wrote the 1st one in the United States in 1996. In 1996 I was running the largest agency in the United States for TIME Insurance Company, America's oldest health insurance company. Time is in 43 states and no other insurance company is even close. I'm sure you probably have a tax free account because it is very similar to an IQ test. Do you want to pay taxes on every dollar earned or would you prefer to go tax free? Tell me The Free Hornet, where do you have your tax-free HSA with?

TIME was owned by FORTIS, the 18th largest company in the world doing $4.5 Billion net annually. When I got the award for the first tax-free MSA we were in Paris at the La Grand hotel across from the Paris Opera. FORTIS rented out the Paris Opera for the formal presentation. Tell me The Free Hornet, what do you do and who do you have your tax-free HSA with, just wondering? You sound like a pretty smart guy. I usually don't tell anybody to fuXk off, sorry.

Shame Hillarycare wasn't really stopped...

And this is why you are a dismissive and pretentious entity who thinks he can command respect on the internet? Maybe your bullish behavior is effective irl for you but this is an established community. Acting like a peevish child making lists in order to humiliate others into cooperating is distracting not to mention anti-liberty imo. Make a solid case for what your argument is against the position someone holds and do NOT put words in people's mouths because that game has no place here and you will be called on it. Oh and 37 posts was how many you had written at the point in time I looked at your post history to figure out why you were responding so rudely.

So you still owe me an apology for the private/public roads issue you attempted to chastise me for and have yet to offer any substance on how that relates to a god complex. Is it your position that muh roads must be a government only function?

[Root]

HOW DO YOU PEOPLE NOT HAVE PASSPORTS? Have none of you ever been outside of your own damn country?

Everyone I know has a passport.
i don't have one.

[moostraks]

i don't have one.

My ex husband shredded mine years ago in a temper tantrum. I have yet to go get a new one :( they are fairly expensive now compared to the first one I had...

[Acala]

oh 2007 join date - u da kingfish - cow don't make ham - U & Acala don't like public roads, right - U think u r God

so manly - could you please speak more clearly??

moostraks YOU ARE WHAT YOU IS - join date pecking order

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oblbLHYu6uY

I find this post to be borderline unintelligible. I don't advocate using the threat of violence to take people's money to pay for roads they may or may not wish to use. I doubt God has an opinon on the subject.

[Acala]

When Senator Phil Gramm(R-TX) told me in 1993, "The liberals shy away from the MSA like vampires to the cross," you old-timers were fighting the Socialists then too, right? If not, I welcome you newbies to the fight because we need all the help we can get.

Where were you in 1980 when I was supporting Ed Clark for President? Not that I think that gives me any authority . . .

As for medical savings accounts: great idea unless you think, as I do, that the worst thing you can do for any sector of the economy is to get banks involved. Of course Phill Gramm was a whore for the banks from the beginning.

[R.G]

You are correct moostrak, we didn't stop Hillarycare. I am so sorry moonstrak.
http://imgmax.com/photos/20130625137220269134731.jpg
Kentucky Democratic Governor Steve Beshear, Barack H. Obama

Kentucky State Employee's Health Insurance Rates
Non-Tobacco User Rates

​LivingWell PPO
​


​
​Total Premium
​Employer Contribution
​Employee Contribution*


​Single
​$699.28
​$619.30
​$79.98


​Parent Plus
​$995.94
​$767.96
​$227.98


​Couple
​$1,528.34
​$1,015.36
​$512.98


​Family
​$1,701.04!!
​$1,058.06
​$642.98


​Family Cross Reference
​$841.34
​$688.36
​$152.98




In Louisville a 30-year-old couple and 2 Children can get the HSA Bronze plan for $585.02/month from Blue Cross

The Democratic Governor is charging state employees with family coverage $642.98/month

plus paying an additional $1,058.06/month!!!

All this money goes to HUMANA - moonstruk can you see any corruption here?

Plus, if this family earns $50,000/year the tax credits are $447.19/month, so this family would only owe $137.83/month

Plus, Plus, the state of Kentucky wouldn't have to pay $1058.06/month per employee (Kentucky has 65,000 State Employees)

moonstuck we should email this info to Rand Paul so he can save Kentucky a Mountain of Money(MOM) for the tax-payers.

Here is the link to the rates for employees: Kentucky Crony Insurance Rates for State Employees (https://personnel.ky.gov/Pages/LivingWellPPO.aspx)

Kentucky can save Billions & Billionshttp://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/default/files/c/2012/03/lucky-in-kentucky-lg-300x225.gif

[moostraks]

You are correct moostrak, we didn't stop Hillarycare. I am so sorry moonstrak.
http://imgmax.com/photos/20130625137220269134731.jpg
Kentucky Democratic Governor Steve Beshear, Barack H. Obama

Kentucky State Employee's Health Insurance Rates
Non-Tobacco User Rates

​LivingWell PPO
​


​
​Total Premium
​Employer Contribution
​Employee Contribution*


​Single
​$699.28
​$619.30
​$79.98


​Parent Plus
​$995.94
​$767.96
​$227.98


​Couple
​$1,528.34
​$1,015.36
​$512.98


​Family
​$1,701.04!!
​$1,058.06
​$642.98


​Family Cross Reference
​$841.34
​$688.36
​$152.98




In Louisville a 30-year-old couple and 2 Children can get the HSA Bronze plan for $585.02/month from Blue Cross

The Democratic Governor is charging state employees with family coverage $642.98/month

plus paying an additional $1,058.06/month!!!

All this money goes to HUMANA - moonstruk can you see any corruption here?

Plus, if this family earns $50,000/year the tax credits are $447.19/month, so this family would only owe $137.83/month

Plus, Plus, the state of Kentucky wouldn't have to pay $1058.06/month per employee (Kentucky has 65,000 State Employees)

moonstuck we should email this info to Rand Paul so he can save Kentucky a Mountain of Money(MOM) for the tax-payers.

Here is the link to the rates for employees: Kentucky Crony Insurance Rates for State Employees (https://personnel.ky.gov/Pages/LivingWellPPO.aspx)

Kentucky can save Billions & Billionshttp://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/default/files/c/2012/03/lucky-in-kentucky-lg-300x225.gif

Reminds me of a used car salesman I once knew in Germany. You might want to brush up on the salesmanship effort if you are looking to undercut the competition as your presentation leaves a lot to be desired from an entity that thinks being rude is limited to saying curse words.

And your apology for the fallacy I was discussing the roads issue is where? How's about your explanation for how private roads=god complex? Or are you merely here to pimp for your business and tell us how wonderful you are?

[pcosmar]

Even if RealID is killed at the state level, .

It has been,, and in most states (if not all).

But it keeps coming back,, under new names,, and for different reasons each time.

They seem to have a problem taking NO for an answer.

[R.G]

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQeark1Wf9y7xDh0-DXyv2cPQSfYg-YWk5qukXTTl7r8dWjZ-0TNQ

BENEFIT PLAN MONTHLY COST


Single $ 1,255.15
EE + Children $ 2,189.89
EE + Spouse $ 2,389.54
Family $ 3,243.49


MIAMI-DADE COUNTY - 2014 COBRA RATES

Link to Miami Corruption Here - Paradise (http://www.miamidade.gov/humanresources/library/2014-cobra-rates.pdf)

Cost in the FREE and OPEN Market for Family Coverage: $548.70/month (30-yr-old-family + 2 kids)

This is why Libertarian Adrian Wyllie wants to help Florida stop the corruption.

Florida has 225,000 State Employees - Kentucky is itty bitty

Is it true that German car salesmen want to stop Socialism dead in it's tracks? I didn't know.

[Deborah K]

There is a serious push for a national ID card right now. It is an issue that I think more folks should pay attention to. I know it's hard with all the mud they are slinging right now, but read this propaganda piece to get Massachusetts residents to buy into a national ID card.



hxxp://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/08/25/massachusetts-licenses-rejected-parts-washington/iQl5H871MxTHAqpnN1Rj7N/story.html


They're already nationalizing drivers' licenses. A few years back, one of my daughters was riding back to California from Arizona with a friend who got pulled over in AZ for a traffic violation. Her friend was a California resident with a CA license. The AZ cop ran her friend's license and was able to pull up a ticket that was overdue for payment in Cali. Now how does that happen unless our licenses are linked up nationally?

[Deborah K]

HOW DO YOU PEOPLE NOT HAVE PASSPORTS? Have none of you ever been outside of your own damn country?

Everyone I know has a passport.

There was a time, in the not-too-distant past (circa '09?), when you could travel to and from Canada and Mexico without a passport, as well as all U.S. territories.

[R.G]

http://wyllieforgovernor.com/wp-content/uploads/papers-300x292.jpg

[R.G]

Propaganda Alert: Propaganda 101

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVjFI_70o4c

[Massachusetts]

Propaganda Alert: Propaganda 101

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVjFI_70o4c

Stop posting pictures and videos. If you're going to make a damn post, have some substance. Your videos and internet memes don't impress me.

[Mani]

There was a time, in the not-too-distant past (circa '09?), when you could travel to and from Canada and Mexico without a passport, as well as all U.S. territories.


As a kid I remember driving up to Niagara Falls and the border patrol took 5 seconds, they didn't even bother with passports most of the time. They just looked inside the car, asked my dad a question or two and waved him on...That was coming back from the Canadian side to the US side.


In 2000 I flew to Canada for a conference...BTW I'm a brown man...Could be confused with middle eastern looking....on the way back at the airport in Toronto I must have misplaced my passport...I couldn't find it in my bag when I reached for it at the immigration counter....I told him I forgot my passport...


He asked me a few goofy questions, "Where was I born" and a couple others, then something like, "What did you do in the morning everyday at school?" I looked at him with a blank stare....he started giving me hints, "Everyday...in the morning...first thing you did.....in class...." and I'm like, "OH! The pledge of allegiance!"

We both started laughing and he said, "Next time don't forget your passport and you wont have to answer stupid questions..." and that was it! He smiled at me and was like...go get to your plane, silly...



I later found my passport in my other carry on when I got home....

That was a different time. I can't imagine what would happen if I made that mistake in 2014. I don't think they would be smiling and laughing about it.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Haha they want it to just be like social security numbers. Oh sure, it's a voluntary system, but you can't get a "job" unless you do something under the table without one. Or open a bank account. Or get a passport. Or join a University, etc etc etc. Though I'm sure each has its own exceptions. I heard a success story of someone opening a bank account without a SSN once.

First it's the airports, then federal thugs at state lines will demand you present your REAL id to cross state lines

10 years from now you can't do anything unless you have a barcode on your wrist

[R.G]

Stop posting pictures and videos. If you're going to make a damn post, have some substance. Your videos and internet memes don't impress me.
Massachusetts, You say that the so-called "Commonwealth of Massachusetts" is THE BIRTH PLACE OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION IN 2014, oh please. Massachusetts with Socialist JFK in Medicare, Socialist Ted Kennedy and Socialist Mitt Romney has done more to harm to this great country than any other state, bar none. What, you don't like me posting about someone who is actually fighting REAL ID like Libertarian Adrian Wyllie who was arrested fighting Real ID, i find that strange.

I know you were so pleased when you voted for Mitt Romney in the last Presidential election and trust me, I did not, and could not vote for that Flip Flopping Socialist. Mitt Romney should just forget about coming to Ames, IA, my home town and hosts the first Presidential debate on Oct. 15th 2015, because he will be run out of town and he knows it. Us Iowa people don't like Mitt, that's an understatement. Look me right in the eyes and ask me if I care what you think. Take a good look at this video of Mitt Romney being smashed by Jan Mickelson, a friend of mine, the last time he ran for President. Jan told the Socialist from Massachusetts that he knew more about the Mormon church than Mitt knew, ha ha. I'm sure Mitt will bypass Jan show on WHO in Des Moines at all costs. What happened to the first amendment anyway? Some guy named Massachusetts decides who can say what, get real. Jan is so much smarter than Mitt, too funny.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEUMpni2H-U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEUMpni2H-U)

[The Free Hornet]

Massachusetts,

...

I know you were so pleased when you voted for Mitt Romney in the last Presidential election and trust me, I did not, and could not vote for that Flip Flopping Socialist.

Do you have a reference to support "Massachusett" [the user] voting for Romney? If not, that's libel.

[The Free Hornet]

I was involved with stopping Hillary care if you really need to know The Free Hornet.

It wasn't stopped. Point of fact, you brag about working for the health insurance industry which is like bragging about supplying the barb wire at Auschwitz.


I was running Iowa and Nebraska for the National Association for the Self Employed. The largest association of self-employed people in America.

There ought to be evidence of how pro-liberty this was under your leadership (I don't want personal info nor do forum rules permit me to post your "personal details" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/content.php?1989-Usage-Guidelines) - but unbacked claims suck). If it wasn't a liberty organization, why are you giving us your resume?


Phil Gramm was the first person to tell me about this idea about a tax-free savings account with tax-free deposits, growth and withdrawals, total tax freedom.

"Would you like your money to grow tax free today without the red tape of Washington? Send one dollar to Tax-Free Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield."

Anyway, I'm having trouble parsing your thought process. Seemingly, you needed a sitting US Senator to explain to you the concept of no income tax? Or rather you were enamored with the idea of your money under their watchful eye?! Which is it?


I'm sure you know all about them because Ron Paul has been a big supporter of tax-free MSA before I wrote the 1st one in the United States in 1996.

Per wikipedia, "Missouri was the first state to do so in 1993." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_savings_account_%28United_States%29) So what are you talking about? Since you wrote it, do you care to supply a hyperlink to the document? ["1st one" or not] Again, I don't want personal information. If I claim to have written "X", then I ought to insert a link to where you can read or purchase "X". Also, how did RP know to be a "big supporter" before you wrote that first, groundbreaking MSA?!?!?!


I'm sure you probably have a tax free account because it is very similar to an IQ test.

I'm not aware of any tax free accounts (and these aren't things we "have", it is how we are "had"). No MSA. I can't contribute to a Roth. The 401K is deferred taxation. Regardless, it doesn't matter much. Money loses utility once you can afford the basics. Basic reading comprehension ought to have made clear my focus on individual liberties (not corporate perks).


Do you want to pay taxes on every dollar earned or would you prefer to go tax free?

You can't offer that choice. Nor does an MSA. Again, I'm not fooled by nudges to keep the sheep in line.


Tell me The Free Hornet, where do you have your tax-free HSA with?

Seriously? Learn to mind your own business. I suggest you redact the question and not fish for personal details that are tangential to the conversation. If you want to spew your life all over the net, go ahead. Why are you asking me to?


TIME was owned by FORTIS, the 18th largest company in the world doing $4.5 Billion net annually. When I got the award for the first tax-free MSA we were in Paris at the La Grand hotel across from the Paris Opera. FORTIS rented out the Paris Opera for the formal presentation. Tell me The Free Hornet, what do you do and who do you have your tax-free HSA with, just wondering? You sound like a pretty smart guy. I usually don't tell anybody to fuXk off, sorry.

You should tell people fuck off. It would express how you act and is faster than oozing the shit you're full of all over the internet.

[R.G]

The Free Hornet - first you asked, "Why was he personally telling you stuff anyway? You should have told him to fuck off.

I read my first libertarian book in 1988 and haven't forgotten the lessons. Lessons that Phil Gramm never learned:"

So, I tell you, now you whine that I'm spewing too much information. Some whiners are hard to please.

All you had to do is read the wikipedia stuff and it tells you quite clearly the history of MSAs. The 1993 MSA that you are talking about was taxed to the max by the IRS. Of course that could not be a tax-free MSA. It says that MSAs were passed in 1996 - I will add on 8/5/1996 - and then in October 1996 TIME Insurance Company, not Golden Rule, was the 1st to market and I enrolled the 1st one, sorry.

TIME was like you and said, "MSAs enjoy tax-free deposits, tax-deferred growth and tax-free withdrawals." But, when President Bush said, "MSAs have tax-free deposits, growth and withdrawals," I started advertising them that way because you only have 59 1/2 seconds in a 60 second radio commercial, everybody knows that.

The MSAs with an effective date of 1/1/1997 were automatically switched by TIME to tax-free HSAs without the client having to request the change.

I hope this clears up some of your confusion The Free Hornet. So, have you went tax-free yet or is it like you say, "Too personal." ha ha

[The Free Hornet]

I hope this clears up some of your confusion The Free Hornet.

Yes that paints a better picture, thanks.


So, have you went tax-free yet or is it like you say, "Too personal." ha ha

No and yes. More particularly, the manner in which you asked was - to my taste - offensive in the extreme. You should drop f-bombs instead. Seriously!

As to health plans, I do my best to stay away from the medical industry and have never even had a cholesterol test (despite being north of 40.... barely). Our plans at work are BC/BS PPO, PPO+(select), and HMO. I'm on the HMO as I don't use it anyway and it is the lowest cost option.

I didn't know HSA was still an option in Illinois/USA. I am glad to have learned this:

http://www.bcbsil.com/country/hsa_right.htm
[this plan is not offered at work yet despite us being Blue Cross/Blue Shield... I will ask in the future about it (it's not my area of responsibility so not the bowl of flakes for me to piss in)]

But from the bottom of my heart, I wish everybody in the healthcare industry would die a horrible death. And I say death rather than serious burns, disfigurment or dismemberments because we will be without a medical industry for a little while and won't have time for that.

[jjdoyle]

If you can't board planes, I wonder if this means you can't board their special trains? Or, will there be special scenarios where boarding of their trains doesn't require Fed backed IDs?

[Weston White]

Freedom of movement under United States law is governed primarily by the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the United States Constitution which states, "The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States." As far back as the circuit court ruling in Corfield v. Coryell, 6 Fed. Cas. 546 (1823), the Supreme Court recognized freedom of movement as a fundamental Constitutional right. In Paul v. Virginia, 75 U.S. 168 (1869), the Court defined freedom of movement as "right of free ingress into other States, and egress from them."[1] However, the Supreme Court did not invest the federal government with the authority to protect freedom of movement. Under the "privileges and immunities" clause, this authority was given to the states, a position the Court held consistently through the years in cases such as Ward v. Maryland, 79 U.S. 418 (1871), the Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1873) and United States v. Harris, 106 U.S. 629 (1883).

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_under_United_States_law


The Privileges and Immunities Clause (U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 2, Clause 1, also known as the Comity Clause) prevents a state from treating citizens of other states in a discriminatory manner. Additionally, a right of interstate travel may plausibly be inferred from the clause.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privileges_and_Immunities_Clause

Amendment X (i.e., not federalist powers permitted to require national identification or dictate state-to-state travels):

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Also see: Durational Residency Requirements -- The Right to Travel (http://law.justia.com/constitution/us/amendment-14/96-right-to-travel.html)

[R.G]

Yes that paints a better picture, thanks.



No and yes. More particularly, the manner in which you asked was - to my taste - offensive in the extreme. You should drop f-bombs instead. Seriously!

As to health plans, I do my best to stay away from the medical industry and have never even had a cholesterol test (despite being north of 40.... barely). Our plans at work are BC/BS PPO, PPO+(select), and HMO. I'm on the HMO as I don't use it anyway and it is the lowest cost option.

I didn't know HSA was still an option in Illinois/USA. I am glad to have learned this:

http://www.bcbsil.com/country/hsa_right.htm
[this plan is not offered at work yet despite us being Blue Cross/Blue Shield... I will ask in the future about it (it's not my area of responsibility so not the bowl of flakes for me to piss in)]

But from the bottom of my heart, I wish everybody in the healthcare industry would die a horrible death. And I say death rather than serious burns, disfigurment or dismemberments because we will be without a medical industry for a little while and won't have time for that.

I hear you The Free Hornet, say no more I understand totally. Your Blue Cross is also Blue Cross of Texas. The healthcare industry just saved the live of my oldest son. I only have one of those you know. He was in the hospital 8 days and the bill was $250,000. Thank goodness for those docs. I found out last Saturday he owes $2,300 above his deductible because his assistant surgeon was out-of-network and his cost was $35,000. Not bad for 2 hours work. My son is on the PPO and if he was on the HMO he would have owed the entire $35,000 in addition to the deductible. (Which is insane - the HMO should be forced to pay at least their network payment but they don't)

Let me tell you about this Phil Gramm. Gramm was just repeating the work of the National Center of Policy Analysis(NCPA). The head guy there and I have had a running fight for 19 years and his name is Dr. John Goodman. Goodman is the problem why to this day nobody knows what the tax-free HSA is. Every time FOX News needed an expert on healthcare policy they would have Goodman on air. About 2 months ago the NCPA fired Goodman for sexual misconduct. So we won't be tortured any longer looking at his ugly mug on FOX News. The new guy, Dr. John Graham, and I have become best buds so things are looking up.

You, The Free Hornet, are going to have a tax-free HSA soon because the next President wants to de-link tax-free HSAs from health insurance. This means everybody in America can have a tax-free HSA. The tax-free HSA is a free bank account so everybody will have one soon. Yes the HSA is FREE so there is no commission. To this day I can honestly say that I have never made a penny on an HSA. I call that salesman abuse. Now I wish the healthcare industry could help my little brother but they can't.