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TaftFan
08-24-2014, 02:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB0AJkL3vyc

William Tell
08-24-2014, 02:45 PM
I guess Fox wants Carson to be the new GOP frontrunner.

56ktarget
08-24-2014, 04:12 PM
Lol at anyone who thinks Carson has a chance.

Kotin
08-24-2014, 04:23 PM
Lol at anyone who thinks Carson has a chance.

Though it's strange to see such a media invention .. A guy who nobody would even know about had it not been for the media.. Hope you are right, I just remember Barack Obama being similar in that way.

sparebulb
08-24-2014, 04:26 PM
Lol at anyone who thinks Carson has a chance.


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William Tell
08-24-2014, 04:29 PM
Though it's strange to see such a media invention .. A guy who nobody would even know about had it not been for the media.. Hope you are right, I just remember Barack Obama being similar in that way.

Obama was a well connected U.S Senator, although not a household name, big difference.

economics102
08-24-2014, 05:22 PM
I hate to say it, but Carson would probably do very well in both the GOP primary and the general. Like Rand, he's got the medical surgeon bona fides. He'll have credibility if he talks about Obamacare. He's got the kind of "intelligent" personality and speaking style that a lot of liberals (who may be looking for a Hillary alternative) woud like, and he'd be a heavy draw for black voters, both because he's black and because he's an inspirational role model of success for blacks (rose in his career to become chief neurosurgeon).

Rand may have some drawing power with black voters by 2016, and certainly more than the other GOP candidates, but I doubt he'll ever manage to draw as many blacks as Carson would. It's sad and it's a case-in-point why democracy doesn't work, but it's the truth. Carson would draw tons of blacks just as Hillary will draw tons of women.

Just sayin'.

I also don't hate Carson. Who knows if he's another establishment puppet in the end, but he seems like a pretty good guy from what I've seen so far.

Massachusetts
08-24-2014, 05:23 PM
I'd love to see Carson be Rand's VP....

RJB
08-24-2014, 05:34 PM
Obama was a well connected U.S Senator, although not a household name, big difference.

Obama was a nobody when he ran for senate during 2004 against Keyes, who had no chance of winning for many reasons. That year Obama read a bunch of platitudes that someone else wrote for him off of a telaprompter in a very uplifting manner. From then on, the media told it's brain dead viewers, that he was the only hope and most Americans believed the MSM in the 2008 election.

Lesson: Whoever the media promotes is the one who wins.

William Tell
08-24-2014, 05:37 PM
I hate to say it, but Carson would probably do very well in both the GOP primary and the general. Like Rand, he's got the medical surgeon bona fides. He'll have credibility if he talks about Obamacare. He's got the kind of "intelligent" personality and speaking style that a lot of liberals (who may be looking for a Hillary alternative) woud like, and he'd be a heavy draw for black voters, both because he's black and because he's an inspirational role model of success for blacks (rose in his career to become chief neurosurgeon).

Rand may have some drawing power with black voters by 2016, and certainly more than the other GOP candidates, but I doubt he'll ever manage to draw as many blacks as Carson would. It's sad and it's a case-in-point why democracy doesn't work, but it's the truth. Carson would draw tons of blacks just as Hillary will draw tons of women.

Just sayin'.

I also don't hate Carson. Who knows if he's another establishment puppet in the end, but he seems like a pretty good guy from what I've seen so far.

You can't win without a fundraising network. Also, polls generally show that Conservative women. Black conservatives, and Latino's such as Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, and Ted Cruz. Generally don't pull many more of their own demographic into their folds. They might energize those in the base, and I'm sure some more blacks would vote for Carson, but he would need to make his case to them.

Legend1104
08-24-2014, 07:47 PM
I would take a Ben Carson (assuming he is not a plant) over a lot of people He is very smart, seems honest, a medical doctor, and is pretty good on many issues. If I had to vote for a McCain type or a Clinton, I would gladly take Carson.

Legend1104
08-24-2014, 07:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB0AJkL3vyc
I love how predictable these people like Jackson and Sharpton are. Blackity black black racism. I love how he was like, "That white panel cannot possibly understand this issue because they are white." Basically he is being racist and assuming that only black people can understand issues that have black people in them and white people should shut up and fall down at the alter of white guilt. I guess when you make your money off of the race issue you put on your racist colored glasses and see racism everywhere or you find it like Waldo hiding in a 5x5 sized book. P.S. I hate that people still call these guys reverend like they are actually religious leaders spreading the gospel.

2young2vote
08-24-2014, 09:39 PM
Jesse Jackson looks like a bored Pug dog. I actually laughed when they had his image up next to Dr. Carson's. :p

navy-vet
08-24-2014, 10:31 PM
Dr Carson appeals to me in many respects, he is obviously highly intelligent and down to earth common sense wise. The only negative thing for me so far, is that I have heard that he is not a proponent for the second amendment. The last thing we need is another anti gun president.

Working Poor
08-25-2014, 06:55 AM
I don't think Carson would help end the war on drugs.

Philhelm
08-25-2014, 07:01 AM
Obama was a nobody when he ran for senate during 2004 against Keyes, who had no chance of winning for many reasons. That year Obama read a bunch of platitudes that someone else wrote for him off of a telaprompter in a very uplifting manner. From then on, the media told it's brain dead viewers, that he was the only hope and most Americans believed the MSM in the 2008 election.

Lesson: Whoever the media promotes is the one who wins.

Obama is still a fucking nobody. I spit on his grave.

CaptUSA
08-25-2014, 07:12 AM
I see Dr. Carson as a valuable asset on the right side of the battle. Like everyone, Carson has some views that may not be 100% consistent with libertarian ideals, (you could say that about everyone, including the elder Paul), but he is knowledgeable and has an affable way of speaking that makes him attractive to a large community.

Now, he doesn't have the network needed for a real run at the Presidency so I don't think anyone really need to worry about that. He may run. He may get loads of media attention, but he won't win the primaries. My suggestion - which I think is the wisest - is to embrace Carson as a speaker of truth. Let those that would support him know that he is welcomed on our side as well. He has spoken highly of Rand in the past, I think it would be nice if Rand returned the favor. When Carson drops out, his endorsement would be huge.