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enhanced_deficit
08-19-2014, 11:27 AM
Did not see tis coming:


Support spreads for officer in Ferguson shooting (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/19/officer-supporters-ferguson-shooting/14259993/)








Greg Toppo, USATODAY 12:37 p.m. EDT August 19, 2014


http://videos.usatoday.net/Brightcove2/29906170001/2014/08/29906170001_3736086825001_video-still-for-video-3736075565001.jpg
As rioters took to the streets of Ferguson, Missouri to protest the killing of Michael Brown, another group rallied in support of officer Darren Wilson. Some people have even donated to a fund to help his family relocate.


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(Photo: St. Louis Post-Dispatch)

In the days since police in Ferguson, Mo., named Darren Wilson as the officer who shot and killed unarmed 18-year-old Michael Brown, a small, quiet counter-protest, taking place mostly online, has arisen far from the angry, noisy nightly protests roiling Ferguson.
Two Facebook groups, both supporting Wilson, have appeared. Between them, they had more than 36,500 "Likes" as of early Tuesday. Supporters also created a GoFundMe.com group aimed at raising $100,000 for Wilson's family. "We stand behind Officer Darren Wilson and his family during this trying time in their lives," a statement on the site said. One donor, who identified herself as Nancy Lawson, pledged $20 and wrote, "Thank you, officer Wilson, for risking your life so we can live in a safe world. I am praying for you."
RELATED: Calm in Ferguson after chaotic night (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/usanow/2014/08/19/ferguson-protests-tuesday/14272141/)
MORE: Trayvon Martin's mom speaks out (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/08/18/trayvon-martin-mom-letter-michael-brown-ferguson/14270421/)
The site's administrators said they ultimately disabled comments on the site in an attempt "to stop the negative comments." As of Tuesday, four days after police identified Wilson as the officer involved in the Aug. 9 shooting, about 500 donors had pledged nearly $20,500.
On Facebook, a commenter who identified himself as Mike Allgire said, "As a retired police officer, I would have shot him also." Allgire added, "The police are not out there to see who can wipe who, but to keep the peace. With a person the size of Mr. Brown, there is no doubt I would have taken the same action. Police officer's have an old saying; 'I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six.' "
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/19/officer-supporters-ferguson-shooting/14259993/




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thoughtomator
08-19-2014, 11:31 AM
'I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six.'

Today, judgement is done by a jury of one that wears badge and a uniform.

enhanced_deficit
08-19-2014, 11:33 AM
Did the leak of suspected robbery video spur this support movement?



Today, judgement is done by a jury of one that wears badge and a uniform.

judge/jury/executioner


(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?458120-Do-90-of-African-Americans-support-a-public-servant-who-acts-as-judge-jury-executioner&)

orenbus
08-19-2014, 11:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viH0xjQKqLM

cajuncocoa
08-19-2014, 11:38 AM
http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-thank-a-police-officer.png



http://s23.postimg.org/l4ibb1qwb/23qyrg7.jpg

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 11:43 AM
Where's the God damn drug test on that cop?

this asshole cop started all this shit with his 'training'....and likely his drug use.

SeanTX
08-19-2014, 11:43 AM
Poor Officer Wilson. Maybe it will turn out that he was "justified" in shooting Brown in self-defense, but there is still the question of if he continued shooting after Brown had given up. And just because no bullets struck him from behind that doesn't mean that he wasn't fired at while running away (some shots missed I believe). We've seen plenty of examples of police doing street executions on people who have given up, have hands up, are handcuffed, etc.

And there have been like a half dozen or so people in the past year who have managed to shoot themselves while in the back of a squad car, after being searched and handcuffed behind the back. Of course, I'm sure they were all "double-jointed" , and thus able to pull a gun out of their asses to shoot themselves (funny how they always shoot themselves, but never the police).

So, I don't feel sorry for poor Officer Wilson. The police have created a big sense of mistrust among many people, so people are going to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt and jump to conclusions when there is even a hint of possible misconduct .

They did this to themselves.

Brian4Liberty
08-19-2014, 11:53 AM
Unless this officer is convicted as a sacrifice for all of the sins of law enforcement and to appease the mobs, he will be found not guilty of any crime they try to charge him with.

We have his side of the story already via his friend, we have a video from the scene with audio that agrees that Brown was advancing on the officer, and we have autopsies that only show front entry wounds. Officer safety, following procedure, etc, combined with reasonable doubt gaurantees acquittal.

That's my prediction based on the info we have today.

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 12:04 PM
Unless this officer is convicted as a sacrifice for all of the sins of law enforcement and to appease the mobs, he will be found not guilty of any crime they try to charge him with.

We have his side of the story already via his friend, we have a video from the scene with audio that agrees that Brown was advancing on the officer, and we have autopsies that only show front entry wounds. Officer safety, following procedure, etc, combined with reasonable doubt gaurantees acquittal.

That's my prediction based on the info we have today.

pretty sure you won't hear about any drug test on that cop.

Omitting a key piece of evidence...

BUT...we know Brown likes booze and weed.

rendering any acquittal for Wilson a typical cover-up and sham. The beat goes on.

no justice, no peace...indeed.

cajuncocoa
08-19-2014, 12:12 PM
Where's the God damn drug test on that cop?

this asshole cop started all this shit with his 'training'....and likely his drug use.
Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer on this one.

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 12:17 PM
Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer on this one.

i know...and yet it's the most critical piece of evidence...either way...

AND..just because we most likely won't, leads me to believe the cop was HOPPED UP on 'something'...roids or meth or prescription crap...

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 12:18 PM
//

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 12:21 PM
Well at least we know who supports the KKK ....

i'm shocked.

orenbus
08-19-2014, 12:40 PM
nvm

CPUd
08-19-2014, 02:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/LHrxGQz.png


http://www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 02:45 PM
bears repeating...and i will..

one good silver lining here...at least we know who the KKK are, and what they're up to...

Smitty
08-19-2014, 02:48 PM
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AND..just because we most likely won't, leads me to believe the cop was HOPPED UP on 'something'...roids or meth or prescription crap...

"hopped,.......up"?

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 02:54 PM
"hopped,.......up"?

sorry..should've said impaired...

mentally....by drugs.

Brian4Liberty
08-19-2014, 02:54 PM
i know...and yet it's the most critical piece of evidence...either way...

AND..just because we most likely won't, leads me to believe the cop was HOPPED UP on 'something'...roids or meth or prescription crap...

And the cop's defense attorney would say that it was adrenaline, that it was the heat of battle due to being hit by and struggling with Brown, that he had tunnel vision, and was following procedure when it comes to a charging and violent person.

That's how it will work out. And the burden of proof will be on the prosecutor.

Brian4Liberty
08-19-2014, 02:56 PM
Well at least we know who supports the KKK ....

i'm shocked.


bears repeating...and i will..

one good silver lining here...at least we know who the KKK are, and what their up to...

Is this about a different thread? Who is supporting the KKK?

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 02:58 PM
And the cop's defense attorney would say that it was adrenaline, that it was the heat of battle due to being hit by and struggling with Brown, that he had tunnel vision, and was following procedure when it comes to a charging and violent person.

That's how it will work out. And the burden of proof will be on the prosecutor.

likely....

because as we all know, there was no urine or blood taken i assume.....because......well, cops are a protected species.

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 03:02 PM
Is this about a different thread? Who is supporting the KKK?

you didn't hear?...KKK of Missouri is holding a fundraiser...

this is not a stretch to think this particular fundraiser posted in this thread is KKK generated and supported.

I firmly believe those giving money are racist and/or KKK members....no?...

if not, then either way, the KKK leadership is smiling....

sleep with dogs...blah and blah...

Brian4Liberty
08-19-2014, 03:15 PM
you didn't hear?...KKK of Missouri is holding a fundraiser...

this is not a stretch to think this particular fundraiser posted in this thread is KKK generated and supported.

I firmly believe those giving money are racist and/or KKK members....no?...

if not, then either way, the KKK leadership is smiling....

sleep with dogs...blah and blah...

I saw something about that in another thread.

I don't do Facebook, but is there something that links that Facebook account to the KKK? Didn't see it in the article.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/19/officer-supporters-ferguson-shooting/14259993/

My guess is that the supporters could be a "legitimate" group of law enforcement, their families, fervent supporters (like Hannity or Levin), and of course, this woman:

http://s23.postimg.org/l4ibb1qwb/23qyrg7.jpg

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 03:43 PM
I saw something about that in another thread.

I don't do Facebook, but is there something that links that Facebook account to the KKK? Didn't see it in the article.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/19/officer-supporters-ferguson-shooting/14259993/

My guess is that the supporters could be a "legitimate" group of law enforcement, their families, fervent supporters (like Hannity or Levin), and of course, this woman:

http://s23.postimg.org/l4ibb1qwb/23qyrg7.jpg

of course.

We all believe what we want to believe, and i believe it to be so.

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 03:47 PM
One big happy family...independent fundraiser, coupled with the KKK....or are they same animal?....nuff said...


''A Missouri chapter of the Ku Klux Klan is planning a fundraiser this weekend for the Ferguson police officer who shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teen.

"All money will go to the cop who did his job against the Negro criminal," according to New Empire Knights of the KKK.''

http://www.king5.com/news/KKK-raising-money-Ferguson-police-officer-271836891.html

RJB
08-19-2014, 03:53 PM
Maybe the police will confront these rioters with M-4s, M-16, armored vehicles, and shoot them with rubber bullets, teargas, and then arrest them. :)



another group rallied in support of officer Darren Wilson. Some people have even donated to a fund to help his family relocate.


http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/f3f6e086e69f24647b7fb2132bf80188c57c2136/c=150-0-644-371&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/USATODAY/GenericImages/2014/08/19/1408465362000-DARREN-WILSON-02.jpg
(Photo: St. Louis Post-Dispatch)

phill4paul
08-19-2014, 03:57 PM
Maybe the police will confront these rioters with M-4s, M-16, armored vehicles, and shoot them with rubber bullets, teargas, and then arrest them. :)

Only if they haven't put on their jammies, brushed their teeth and are under the covers by bed time.

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 04:03 PM
Only if they haven't put on their jammies, brushed their teeth and are under the covers by bed time.

i didn't want to laugh, but thats damn funny..

JustinTime
08-19-2014, 04:20 PM
you didn't hear?...KKK of Missouri is holding a fundraiser...

this is not a stretch to think this particular fundraiser posted in this thread is KKK generated and supported.

I firmly believe those giving money are racist and/or KKK members....no?...

if not, then either way, the KKK leadership is smiling....

sleep with dogs...blah and blah...

Jesus effing Christ...

I hear evidence is about to drop that Wilson had a fractured eye socket. If that happens, you've got to stop this embarrassing charade. Do what I did last Friday and just admit you were wrong, there'd be more dignity in it.

phill4paul
08-19-2014, 04:28 PM
Jesus effing Christ...

I hear evidence is about to drop that Wilson had a fractured eye socket. If that happens, you've got to stop this embarrassing charade. Do what I did last Friday and just admit you were wrong, there'd be more dignity in it.

That information would have been better dispersed in the opening days of this boondoggle. By putting it off it will seem manufactured.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-19-2014, 04:33 PM
Jesus effing Christ...

I hear evidence is about to drop that Wilson had a fractured eye socket. If that happens, you've got to stop this embarrassing charade. Do what I did last Friday and just admit you were wrong, there'd be more dignity in it.

A car door slamming is just as likely to break your face as somebody punching you. If you aggressively open a car door on a person and--let's say--you ram that person's shin, then a possible reaction is to shove that car door right back on you. It would not even take somebody the size of Brown to shove a door that hard and do that kind of damage to someone's eye.

Police quickly and assertively get out their cars all the time, even when somebody is just mouthing off to them.

JustinTime
08-19-2014, 04:39 PM
A car door slamming is just as likely to break your face as somebody punching you. If you aggressively open a car door on a person and--let's say--you ram that person's shin, then a possible reaction is to shove that car door right back on you. It would not even take somebody the size of Brown to shove a door that hard and do that kind of damage to someone's eye.

Police quickly and assertively get out their cars all the time, even when somebody is just mouthing off to them.

Moving them goalposts.

AuH20
08-19-2014, 04:43 PM
A car door slamming is just as likely to break your face as somebody punching you. If you aggressively open a car door on a person and--let's say--you ram that person's shin, then a possible reaction is to shove that car door right back on you. It would not even take somebody the size of Brown to shove a door that hard and do that kind of damage to someone's eye.

Police quickly and assertively get out their cars all the time, even when somebody is just mouthing off to them.

Possibly.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-19-2014, 04:43 PM
Moving them goalposts.

I don't think you know the meaning of the phrase.

69360
08-19-2014, 04:43 PM
Shooting was justified.

Hoodrats used said justified shooting as an excuse to loot and burn.

Flame and neg rep all you want, that's the uncomfortable truth.

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 04:54 PM
Jesus effing Christ...

I hear evidence is about to drop that Wilson had a fractured eye socket. If that happens, you've got to stop this embarrassing charade. Do what I did last Friday and just admit you were wrong, there'd be more dignity in it.

wishin' and hopin' ain't gonna cut it...

i believe there are more than 2 eyewitnesses that have matching, accurate accounts.....

safe to assume because of some cops dick up your ass is the reason you close your ears...

burp...

JK/SEA
08-19-2014, 04:55 PM
Shooting was justified.

Hoodrats used said justified shooting as an excuse to loot and burn.

Flame and neg rep all you want, that's the uncomfortable truth.

have i told you that your silly posts make me laugh

...no exception here on this one either sweet cheeks...;)

mit26chell
08-20-2014, 10:10 AM
Moving them goalposts.

Not really. I've seen people injure their faces/heads/fingers by an opening/slamming car door.

nobody's_hero
08-20-2014, 10:54 AM
Police officer's have an old saying; 'I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six.' "


Yeah well the odds of him even being put on trial aren't all that great, so that's not much of a dilemma.

enhanced_deficit
08-20-2014, 01:45 PM
Way back SWC drone used to do beer summit with select cops at White House.. but in case of Miriam Carey and Ferguson shooting no such peace dialog has been launcged.



Yeah well the odds of him even being put on trial aren't all that great, so that's not much of a dilemma.

This news leak would probably further reduce such odds:

Ferguson Cop Had 'Serious Facial Injury,' Source Tells ABC News

FERGUSON, Missouri — Aug 20, 2014, 2:15 PM ET


http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/HT_darren_wilson_float_jef_140819_16x9_992.jpg

Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson, shown in this screen shot via Facebook, earned police honor before fatal shooting.
Screen shot via Facebook

Next Video Friend of Officer Darren Wilson: 'I Can Never Imagine Him Shooting Anybody' (http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905#)

The Ferguson (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/ferguson-missouri.htm) police officer who shot and killed an unarmed teenager suffered “a serious facial injury” in the altercation before firing the fatal shots, according to a source close to the officer who spoke to ABC News today.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905

cajuncocoa
08-20-2014, 02:32 PM
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/)


Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.”

This seems bizarre to me. Why have they waited so long to disclose this information if it was true?

twomp
08-20-2014, 02:48 PM
Shooting was justified.

Hoodrats used said justified shooting as an excuse to loot and burn.

Flame and neg rep all you want, that's the uncomfortable truth.

If you are at any major sporting event say the super bowl, world series, nba final, nhl finals etc... if someone throws a bottle, how long do you think it takes before that person gets caught and thrown in jail? Do you see security tear gas the entire stadium if someone throws a bottle or does something stupid?

Why then is it okay in your eyes for EVERYONE protesting to be labeled a "hoodrat" because a handful of people decide to throw rocks and break windows?

Do you believe in collective punishment? If you break my window, it's okay for me to beat up your family?

enhanced_deficit
08-20-2014, 03:22 PM
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/)


This seems bizarre to me. Why have they waited so long to disclose this information if it was true?

Very good question. Quite strategic leaks in this case so far.


Related

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03009/IMG_20140817_18111_3009180b.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=Cr-3CIrLZXhTBM&tbnid=PaKTbVQM_ncFtM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworl dnews%2Fnorthamerica%2Fusa%2F11040486%2FSupporters-rally-for-police-officer-who-shot-dead-Michael-Brown.html&ei=CxL1U_HoDKnhsATTxoK4Cg&bvm=bv.73373277,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNH55OY-Rz4EN8MCJB6sm5EN2E6xWg&ust=1408655121363608)

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/2a/32af06a8-fdd2-5614-9aa8-335b90fd8c38/53f178e41a3ac.preview-620.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=7mk9VfSbCMMuZM&tbnid=lhImD2H21YsFYM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stltoday.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2 Fcrime-and-courts%2Fcrowd-rallies-at-ksdk-to-support-ferguson-police-officer%2Farticle_e4010a1c-2dfa-526f-92df-29b25f33ab19.html&ei=CBD1U_yrBsWLyATHr4KgBQ&bvm=bv.73373277,d.cGU&psig=AFQjCNH55OY-Rz4EN8MCJB6sm5EN2E6xWg&ust=1408655121363608)

AuH20
08-20-2014, 03:38 PM
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/)



This seems bizarre to me. Why have they waited so long to disclose this information if it was true?

See the Zimmerman case. We probably won't see a photo soon, unless he is acquitted. You don't waste all your evidence and then shrink the jury pool.

Brian4Liberty
08-20-2014, 03:51 PM
Way back SWC drone used to do beer summit with select cops at White House.. but in case of Miriam Carey ....

Please join Congress for a standing ovation in support of the Police shooting an unarmed woman...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8TJUzRDd3Q

enhanced_deficit
08-20-2014, 03:56 PM
OTOH, support for protests is also growing with Diddy calling for SWC droneking to get ona plane to Ferguson.




Diddy, Nelly, more rappers rally for Ferguson (http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/08/19/diddy-nelly-more-rappers-rally-for-ferguson/)
USA TODAY ‎- 1 day ago

Diddy, in an Instagram video, called on President Obama to get involved, saying, “Obama, get on a plane. This is serious. These are your people, baby.”


http://usatlife.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/nelly.jpg?w=1000&h=666

(http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/08/19/diddy-nelly-more-rappers-rally-for-ferguson/ap-police-shooting-missouri-a-ent-usa-mo/#main)Rapper Nelly, center, walks the streets with protesters on Monday. (Jeff Roberson, AP)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Dwu7SwCSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Dwu7SwCSE

Brian4Liberty
08-20-2014, 04:02 PM
If you are at any major sporting event say the super bowl, world series, nba final, nhl finals etc... if someone throws a bottle, how long do you think it takes before that person gets caught and thrown in jail? Do you see security tear gas the entire stadium if someone throws a bottle or does something stupid?

Why then is it okay in your eyes for EVERYONE protesting to be labeled a "hoodrat" because a handful of people decide to throw rocks and break windows?

Do you believe in collective punishment? If you break my window, it's okay for me to beat up your family?

That is the key question. For the most, the establishment would say "yes, they completely and fully support collective punishment."

JustinTime
08-20-2014, 04:51 PM
I don't think you know the meaning of the phrase.

Sure I do, its when someone concedes the original point and comes up with some other theory.

You're doing it and this entire sad affair is full of people doing it daily. Now that we know for certain the cop suffered injuries to his face, the goalposts get moved and the new excuse is "Whale, urh... the cop prolly hit hisself widduh car door, ummm yeah thats it."

And if we could prove that the injury was because of Brown punching him, you'll move them again, it'll be "Brown was allowed to punch him because he knew the cop was gonna shoot him!" or something.

RandallFan
08-20-2014, 04:54 PM
This cop will be more popular than Zimmerman. He'll probably raise 1 million.

This case was a bad case to use. A suspected robber and people looting(targeting Asians and shoving Indians) in the streets.

There's no war on drugs angle.

Cops should be arresting people for robbery and looting. If there ever was a case for militarized police, Joe Sixpack would point to Ferguson.

JustinTime
08-20-2014, 04:55 PM
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/)



This seems bizarre to me. Why have they waited so long to disclose this information if it was true?

Probably for the same reason it took nearly a week for the video of Brown robbing the store to come out, the feds are messing around and trying to manipulate things: http://www.businessinsider.com/feds-objected-to-the-release-of-alleged-michael-brown-robbery-tape-2014-8

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-20-2014, 05:14 PM
Sure I do, its when someone concedes the original point and comes up with some other theory.

You're doing it and this entire sad affair is full of people doing it daily. Now that we know for certain the cop suffered injuries to his face, the goalposts get moved and the new excuse is "Whale, urh... the cop prolly hit hisself widduh car door, ummm yeah thats it."

And if we could prove that the injury was because of Brown punching him, you'll move them again, it'll be "Brown was allowed to punch him because he knew the cop was gonna shoot him!" or something.

You still don't know it means.

outspoken
08-20-2014, 07:41 PM
I wonder what P.Ditty or Nelly would do or have their bodyguards do if some 300 lb. dude punched them in the face so hard they fractured their orbit then charged at them looking for more action? This case is a mockery in terms of trying to bring light to justice and police brutality. I am sorry to say but this is nothing more than a punk with a pension for violence that got exactly what he bargained for. There is nothing to indicate that there is any reason to waste tax payer dollars pursuing criminal charges against an officer that used justifiable force.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-20-2014, 07:54 PM
I wonder what P.Ditty or Nelly would do or have their bodyguards do if some 300 lb. dude punched them in the face so hard they fractured their orbit...

I wonder what people would do if they actually had to reason based on facts. There is nothing officially public regarding Wilson's eye socket. There is nothing officially public indicating that Brown punched Wilson in the face.

Brown pushed the door back on Wilson and Wilson hit his head on the steering wheel. Brown actually bitched slapped Wilson, resulting in a swollen lip.

See I can make up stuff too.

69360
08-20-2014, 07:56 PM
Diddy, in an Instagram video, called on President Obama to get involved, saying, “Obama, get on a plane. This is serious. These are your people, baby.

His people? Obama had a white mother, an absentee african father and was raised overseas and in Hawaii. How are ghetto people rioting for no reason his people? He has no shared experience with them at all.

CPUd
08-20-2014, 07:58 PM
No way Secret Service is going to let Obama go there anytime soon.

DamianTV
08-20-2014, 08:04 PM
Did not see tis coming:

...

Everyone should have seen this coming.

We all know how the Propoganda Department is used to control peoples perceptions of a situation. The powers that be always want more control and less resistance to that control. This is an attempt to get people to validate the actions of an abusive govt that does not hold its enforcers responsible for excesses of enforcement. What they want more than anything else is for large groups of people to run around mindlessly chanting "A Police State is Okay!" and get them to surrender everything by being in favor of Despotism. And this is HOW they achieve that goal.

NIU Students for Liberty
08-20-2014, 08:20 PM
His people? Obama had a white mother, an absentee african father and was raised overseas and in Hawaii. How are ghetto people rioting for no reason his people? He has no shared experience with them at all.

He was a "community activist" (whatever that means) on Chicago's south side before making the move to U.S. Senate. He used this demographic to get elected.

RandallFan
08-20-2014, 08:29 PM
I wonder what P.Ditty or Nelly would do or have their bodyguards do if some 300 lb. dude punched them in the face so hard they fractured their orbit then charged at them looking for more action? This case is a mockery in terms of trying to bring light to justice and police brutality.

Has P. Diddy ever called out his business partner Mark Wahlberg?

http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2013/02/28/previews/Diddy%20and%20wahlberg-20130228-30.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oh6Jgos.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg


At 15, civil action was filed against Wahlberg for his involvement in two separate incidents of harassing African-American children (the first some siblings and the second a group of black school children on a field trip (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_trip)), by throwing rocks and shouting racial epithets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epithets).[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg#cite_note-elder-11) At 16, Wahlberg approached a middle-aged Vietnamese man on the street and, using a large wooden stick, knocked him unconscious while yelling a racial epithet. That same day, he also attacked another Vietnamese man, blinding him in one eye.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg#cite_note-elder-11)[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg#cite_note-12)[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg#cite_note-13)

Brian4Liberty
08-20-2014, 08:52 PM
This cop will be more popular than Zimmerman. He'll probably raise 1 million.

This case was a bad case to use.

It was the perfect case for the media and the race charlatans.

Henry Rogue
08-20-2014, 09:05 PM
Unless this officer is convicted as a sacrifice for all of the sins of law enforcement and to appease the mobs, he will be found not guilty of any crime they try to charge him with.

We have his side of the story already via his friend, we have a video from the scene with audio that agrees that Brown was advancing on the officer, and we have autopsies that only show front entry wounds. Officer safety, following procedure, etc, combined with reasonable doubt gaurantees acquittal.

That's my prediction based on the info we have today.
I must have missed that thread. Do you have a link for that video?
Never mind, I looked it up on the Internet. Not an actual video of the shooting, just people talking while recording.

Lucille
08-20-2014, 09:13 PM
He didn't seem like he was "beaten very severely" in the videos I've seen of him in the street after he killed Brown. He looked as cool as a cucumber to me.

If Gillespie keeps this up, he's gonna lose his cosmo cred:

http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/20/source-ferguson-cop-who-killed-michael-b


There's no question that Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon's insistence on a "vigorous prosecution" is disturbing, as it implies a legal process directed by political expediency rather than rational deliberation. But beyond the above account's reliance on a single anonymous source, the actions of the Ferguson and St. Louis County cops are a bit tough to square.

If Darren Wilson was badly injured in the incident, why not disclose that sooner (and openly)?

KEEF
08-20-2014, 09:27 PM
http://s23.postimg.org/l4ibb1qwb/23qyrg7.jpg

Being hypothetical... I wonder if a crowd of people like above protesting protesters down in Furgonson outside the designated protester zone and past curfew would end up getting tear gas thrown at them, pelted by rubber bullets, or fully automatic guns shoved in their face?

charrob
08-20-2014, 10:01 PM
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/)


Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

“The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,” said the insider. “He was beaten very severely.”


This seems bizarre to me. Why have they waited so long to disclose this information if it was true?

If I was "nearly beaten unconscious", I wouldn't be walking back and forth on the road next to Brown's dead body following being attacked. If I suffered "severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture", I'd probably be holding the injured side of my face and asking for ice. From the video, Wilson does neither-- he walks back and forth, converses with another officer, and doesn't appear to be in any type of pain:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F-ba5KwP_A

It's possible there was a tussle between Wilson and Brown. However, imho, the "severity" of Wilson's "injuries" are either being vastly exaggerated in these new accounts by the press, or entirely prefabricated.

CPUd
08-20-2014, 10:44 PM
If I was "nearly beaten unconscious", I wouldn't be walking back and forth on the road next to Brown's dead body following being attacked. If I suffered "severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture", I'd probably be holding the injured side of my face and asking for ice. From the video, Wilson does neither-- he walks back and forth, converses with another officer, and doesn't appear to be in any type of pain:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F-ba5KwP_A

It's possible there was a tussle between Wilson and Brown. However, imho, the "severity" of Wilson's "injuries" are either being vastly exaggerated in these new accounts by the press, or entirely prefabricated.

It's possible he isn't feeling pain due to adrenaline.

Brian4Liberty
08-21-2014, 11:23 AM
And the cop's defense attorney would say that it was adrenaline, that it was the heat of battle due to being hit by and struggling with Brown, that he had tunnel vision, and was following procedure when it comes to a charging and violent person.

That's how it will work out. And the burden of proof will be on the prosecutor.

And that is the story going around now with the revelation of the orbital sock injury. Someone on TV even said that he was temporarily unconscious. Of course that is nonsense, as someone who comes out of unconsciousness rarely continues any fight. Just getting punched does send the adrenaline through the roof though.


It's possible he isn't feeling pain due to adrenaline.

Quite possible, even very likely.

enhanced_deficit
08-21-2014, 01:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/LHrxGQz.png


http://www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

From that link, looks like they raised more than initial target and then upped the target.

$142,155 of 150k


Raised by 3,508 people in 3 days



This cop will be more popular than Zimmerman. He'll probably raise 1 million.



Won't be too surprising looking at recent trend and leaks operation.


Has P. Diddy ever called out his business partner Mark Wahlberg?

http://images.starpulse.com/pictures/2013/02/28/previews/Diddy%20and%20wahlberg-20130228-30.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oh6Jgos.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg

For self-interest, career promotion, money etc, many deals are routinely made. Diddy, Will Smith, Corey Booker, SWC droneking etc amay be few examples in the African-American community. Similar phenomenon in other communites, compromisers, puppets, tools al around esp in politics.

Lucille
08-21-2014, 01:25 PM
Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/20/missouri-cop-was-badly-beaten-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/)

This seems bizarre to me. Why have they waited so long to disclose this information if it was true?

KD thinks it's bull. So do I.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=229323



EXCLUSIVE: Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

Even assuming all of this is true it does not matter when it comes to the officer shooting Brown.
[...]
Here's the problem -- whether it's a good shoot or manslaughter (at best) turns entirely on whether Brown was actively assaulting the officer when he was shot because the legal justification to shoot him for the previous assault ended when that assault terminated.

My issue with the claim that it was a good shoot predicated on the above is the following:
How could Brown have heard a command to stop when his ears were, seconds before, a few inches from a weapon that discharged in a confined space with no hearing protection? I don't recommend you try reproducing this on your own, by the way. If the "command" was in fact shots fired at his back (which Brown could hear, deafened or not, and of course if he was hit in the hand, which is possible from a ballistics perspective, he'd feel that).....

The evidence does not support that Brown went for the officer's gun and it discharged during said altercation. Specifically, there was no evidence of powder residue anywhere on Brown, including his hands. I assume for the moment there is physical evidence of a discharge in the vehicle (somewhere in the vehicle there is a hole from the inside out, etc.) -- but to assert that Brown caused the discharge or was within inches of the weapon when it happened should have deposited evidence of same on his body, and that evidence is missing.

Show me the ballistics and geometric solution that allows an average-height man to shoot a 6'4" guy, who is roughly 6" taller than the officer, in the head and face with the known angles of entry and (for the shot to the eye) exit while that man is on his feet, charging or not. He did not fall to his knees while charging as the autopsy showed no abrasions on his knees or legs -- inescapable injuries if you are charging someone, are shot, and fall forward on pavement. The only abrasion injury was a very light and flat-forward impact injury to Brown's face consistent with a face-first fall from a stationary position. He thus could not have suffered the fatal shots in a scenario where he is hit superficially in the arm or hand, falls to his knees while running and thus presents the necessary angle for the last two rounds to go into his head that are being fired at an actively-charging suspect.
You have to get past these facts that get in the way of the claims in the Fox News story, and you have to do it with physical facts, not supposition, because the physical evidence released to date points the other way.

If you can do that then the shoot was good and I'll change my mind; anyone, including this officer, is within his rights to shoot a man that is at that instant in time presents a credible threat of assault to do great bodily harm or worse, and Brown, according to this story, had demonstrated his ability to do exactly that.

But if you can't get past the above problems with objective evidence the officer needs to charged with and convicted of either Manslaughter or Murder 2.

Justinfrom1776
08-21-2014, 01:55 PM
My wife knows Darren Wilson's wife.. I know for a fact he's a dirtbag.

enhanced_deficit
08-21-2014, 04:22 PM
KD thinks it's bull. So do I.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=229323


Facts are the first casualty again?

Way to go non-controlled free MSM.

Lucille
08-21-2014, 04:38 PM
Facts are the first casualty again?

Way to go non-controlled free MSM.


This making its way around the net:

"Police officer did not have a broken eye socket."

Just saw a CNN report that sources close to the investigation confirm, no broken or fractured eye socket or orbital blowout occurred.

This would conflict earlier reports such as this one that talked about the specific injury.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kxIaAFPiB4

The clarification that no serious injury to his eye comes on the heels of another video coming out showing Darren Wilson after the event talking with another officer, while not appearing to be in great pain, of course this is all speculation. What is worth noting is that the media's "sources close to the investigation" are beginning to conflict with each other in terms of the actual report given by the officer the day or days after the event occurred and specific facts of what happened to the officer himself. It also seems now that earlier reports from the St. Louis Dispatch about a dozen or so witnesses corroborating the officer's story is false and those statements have been walked back as mentioned in the above video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbFROVARxuA

Imagine my shock.

bolil
08-21-2014, 04:40 PM
Any pictures of his face? If not, then all support is blind. Right AUH?

SeanTX
08-21-2014, 05:13 PM
My wife knows Darren Wilson's wife.. I know for a fact he's a dirtbag.

Care to elaborate?

Even if he was in the right using deadly force in this one instance, I'm sure he's violated plenty of citizen's rights, "put lumps" on people for the hell of it, popped a few dogs for looking at him funny, etc. All that goes with being a cop -- there are no "good" ones.

Brett85
08-21-2014, 06:52 PM
It seems like this really isn't good for the anti police state movement, as this is appearing to be a rare example of the police killing in self defense. There are countless examples all around the country of instances where the police didn't kill in self defense, including killing pets, and those instances are never mentioned in the media. It just happens that the one event that actually ends up being a big deal and gets covered by the media ends up being an instance where the police officer most likely didn't do anything wrong.

enhanced_deficit
08-22-2014, 09:00 AM
It seems like this really isn't good for the anti police state movement, as this is appearing to be a rare example of the police killing in self defense. There are countless examples all around the country of instances where the police didn't kill in self defense, including killing pets, and those instances are never mentioned in the media. It just happens that the one event that actually ends up being a big deal and gets covered by the media ends up being an instance where the police officer most likely didn't do anything wrong.

It seems bit different case than Miriam Carey shooting with infamous congressional standing ovation.

But all key facts are not known still.

jllundqu
08-22-2014, 09:18 AM
Wow... so much armchair quarterbacking going on here....

How about we let the process work and wait for all the facts to come out before we judge?

:toady:

thoughtomator
08-22-2014, 09:28 AM
Wow... so much armchair quarterbacking going on here....

How about we let the process work and wait for all the facts to come out before we judge?

:toady:

In terms of the behavior of the police department, those facts are in and they are extremely ugly.

Is anyone going to be charged in the tear gas attack on the Al-Jazeera film crew? Anyone going to be charged for the false arrest of the WaPo reporters? Is Officer GoFyourself going to be charged with brandishing and making threats?

I think we all know the answers to those questions. The problem remains the same - the law does not apply to the police, they refuse to enforce the law against their own members while going balls-to-the-wall, comply-or-die, with respect to everyone else - black, white or other.

HOLLYWOOD
08-22-2014, 11:44 AM
2:45 mark of CNN video:
"They easily could of easily given(the police) these videos as well, because they confiscated my phone(video recording)."

There you go... this is all about 'protecting the state' and their racketeering profit centers. Also the lies perpetrated about officer "6 Shot" injuries were all to drum up sympathy and cash. Then next hurdle, of many, will be the corrupt organized crime syndicate aka District Attorney, then the rigged grand jury, then the rigged jurors, then the rigged judge, and then the rigged verdict.

It's like every other city and town in America today, "JUST-US".

Anti Federalist
08-22-2014, 12:28 PM
Wow... so much armchair quarterbacking going on here....

How about we let the process work and wait for all the facts to come out before we judge?

Process?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdNsltQXTVU

enhanced_deficit
08-22-2014, 02:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/LHrxGQz.png


http://www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson


This is top news headline on google now. It appears fund raising has been suddenly stopped while earlier target had been moved up every $50K when it exceeded previous target. It was was at $250K short while ago and now changed to $235 and closed.

$225000 in Crowdfunding Raised to Support Darren Wilson




NBCNews.com
- ‎11 minutes ago‎












A crowdfunding site created this week to support Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson and his family continues to rake in donations, but not without backlash against comments made by some of the campaign's donors.

enhanced_deficit
08-25-2014, 09:48 AM
Wow... so much armchair quarterbacking going on here....

How about we let the process work and wait for all the facts to come out before we judge?

:toady:

That approach did not turn out so good after Miriam Carey was executed, so can't really blame people for trying to speculate in all directions.


In other news, they have raised an astonishing $400,000K for Darren Wilson so far and still going.

https://www.gofundme.com/OfficerWilsonFundraiser

Anti Federalist
08-25-2014, 09:57 AM
That approach did not turn out so good after Miriam Carey was executed, so can't really blame people for trying to speculate in all directions.


In other news, they have raised an astonishing $400,000K for Darren Wilson so far and still going.

https://www.gofundme.com/OfficerWilsonFundraiser

Not surprised at all.

People want a police state, mostly.

enhanced_deficit
08-25-2014, 11:43 AM
Not surprised at all.

People want a police state, mostly.

You may be right , fear factor plays a role.

AuH20
08-25-2014, 11:48 AM
That approach did not turn out so good after Miriam Carey was executed, so can't really blame people for trying to speculate in all directions.


In other news, they have raised an astonishing $400,000K for Darren Wilson so far and still going.

https://www.gofundme.com/OfficerWilsonFundraiser

Darren Wilson should kiss the race hustlers and mainstream media for making him a very rich man. Meanwhile, barely even a care was made about the Utah man that was shot.

SeanTX
08-25-2014, 12:06 PM
He didn't seem like he was "beaten very severely" in the videos I've seen of him in the street after he killed Brown. He looked as cool as a cucumber to me.



THIS. If he had been just been horribly beaten, in fear of his life, etc. do you really think he'd be hanging out and casually strolling about admiring his kill, with dozens of angry people gathering? And with plenty of other officers already on the scene?

If I had just been seriously injured in a life and death struggle, I wouldn't be hanging around waiting for it to happen again.

Most officers expect to have their boo boos treated right away, like the Fullerton cops who wanted their scraped fists attended to as soon as EMS arrived, while Kelly Thomas was drowning in his own blood just a few feet away.

Though I've heard some people comment that Officer Wilson's behavior afterwards may have been due to "adrenalin kicking in" -- who knows. For now it's all just speculation, like so many other things in this case ...

enhanced_deficit
08-25-2014, 07:56 PM
THIS. If he had been just been horribly beaten, in fear of his life, etc. do you really think he'd be hanging out and casually strolling about admiring his kill, with dozens of angry people gathering? And with plenty of other officers already on the scene?
...

Good point and question.