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johnwk
08-13-2014, 06:32 PM
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SEE: Feds to schools: You must accept children of undocumented immigrants (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/feds-to-schools-you-must-accept-children-of-undocumented-immigrants/)

”The Justice and Education Departments are teaming up to remind public schools that they are required to provide all children with equal access to education at the elementary and secondary level regardless of their parents' or guardians' citizenship or immigration status.”


Of course, Eric Holder, is relying upon a 1982 Supreme Court opinion, Plyler vs. Doe, in which the court intentionally misrepresented both the text and legislative intent of the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment declares:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

When the Court says "the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution is not confined to the protection of citizens” as distinguished from “persons”, it is absolutely correct. The amendment declares “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States”. But the amendment then goes on to extend a specific protection to “any person” as distinguished from “citizens” and forbids “any person” from being deprive of life, liberty, or property without due process being extended. Due process must be extended before “any person” may be deprived of life, liberty, or property, which is a very reasonable requirement and not in dispute. What is in dispute is Eric Holder’s assertion that a State’s public schools must enroll a foreigner who is not a citizen of the United States or of the State in which enrollment is applied for.

Getting back to the 14th Amendment, we come the wording which commands that “any person” within a State’s jurisdiction may not be denied “the equal protection of the laws” which have been established by a State. Note that these words do not even remotely suggest to negate the power of a State to create “privileges and immunities” for her “citizens” which are not afforded to “persons” who are not citizens. But the words do forbid a state to deny the equal protection of the laws, e.g., if a State decides to issue a driver’s learner’s permit to citizens of their state at the age of 16, then it may not refuse such a permit to any person who is a citizen based upon race or color to be in compliance with the legislative intent of the 14th Amendment. But denying the equal protection of the laws within the context of the 14th Amendment was not intended to, or does it, prohibit a State from making distinctions based upon citizenship with reference to “privileges and immunities” created by a States. A State’s public school system is within the category of “privileges” which a State may offer her citizens, and under the 14th Amendment’s legislative intent that privilege may not be denied to a State’s citizens based upon race or color. But it can be denied to those who are not citizens of the united States or of the state in question!

In fact, the legislative intent of the 14th Amendment was eloquently summarized by one of its supporters as follows:


“Its whole effect is not to confer or regulate rights, but to require that whatever of these enumerated rights and obligations are imposed by State laws shall be for and upon all citizens alike without distinctions based on race or former condition of slavery…It permits the States to say that the wife may not testify, sue or contract. It makes no law as to this. Its whole effect is to require that whatever rights as to each of the enumerated civil (not political) matters the States may confer upon one race or color of the citizens shall be held by all races in equality…It does not prohibit you from discriminating between citizens of the same race, or of different races, as to what their rights to testify, to inherit &c. shall be. But if you do discriminate, it must not be on account of race, color or former conditions of slavery. That is all. If you permit a white man who is an infidel to testify, so you must a colored infidel. Self-evidently this is the whole effect of this first section. It secures-not to all citizens, but to all races as races who are citizens- equality of protection in those enumerated civil rights which the States may deem proper to confer upon any race.” ___ SEE: Rep. Shallabarger, Congressional Globe, 1866, page 1293 (http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=334)



The bottom line is, there is no provision in the Constitution of the United States which prohibits a State from exercising its reserved powers under the Tenth Amendment and refuse to enroll a foreigner in its public school system who has entered the United States illegally and is not a citizen. Each State would do well to tell Eric Holder to go fly a kite and refuse to enroll any child whose parents are unable to show their child is a Citizen of the United States and of the State in which they reside and wish to enroll that child in its public school system.


JWK

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.___ Tenth Amendment

Origanalist
08-13-2014, 06:51 PM
Each State would do well to tell Eric Holder to go fly a kite and refuse to enroll any child whose parents are unable to show their child is a Citizen of the United States and of the State in which they reside and wish to enroll that child in its public school system.


Given the state of our public school system I don't see that happening.

DamianTV
08-13-2014, 06:58 PM
Yeah, this will "fix" the economy too. People cant get jobs because of the lack of jobs, and that causes a LOT of competition. So to fix that, they want MORE competition! Go figure. Oh, now they are going to make sure that jobs that require varying degrees of education are on that list as well. The immigrant kids will get Govt grants for being immigrants, you and I wont.

Mundane: OMG my house is on fire! What ever will I do?

Govt: Quick! Set the Garage on fire too! Two fires will fix Inequality!

johnwk
08-13-2014, 07:00 PM
For an example of the effects this ongoing invasion is having in communities around our country see: Lynn officials: Illegal immigrant children are stressing city services (http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/26016031/lynn-officials-illegal-immigrant-children-are-stressing-city-services)

Jul 14, 2014

LYNN, Mass. (MyFoxBoston.com) -- Lynn is a municipality on the brink. Key department officials say a recent influx of illegal immigrant children and families in the city is stressing almost every service from trash collection to healthcare.


"We have been aware of the unaccompanied children issue for quite a while, and we were able to absorb a lot of these children early on," said Lynn Mayor Judith Flanagan Kennedy. "But now it's gotten to the point where the school system is overwhelmed, our health department is overwhelmed, the city's budget is being sustainably altered in order of accommodate all of these admissions in the school department."





JWK

The Obama Administration is employing the same cowardly tactics used by Hamas. They hide behind woman and children while flooding our country with the poverty stricken populations of other countries!

donnay
08-13-2014, 07:01 PM
This is why I have a REAL problem with illegals coming to our country. We are FORCED to pay for them. :mad:

jkr
08-13-2014, 07:03 PM
the 14th?!?

the one that MAKES US THEIR $LAVE$???


hellz bellz!
they break that ALL THE TIME!

alucard13mm
08-13-2014, 11:13 PM
This is the issue I have... They keep telling us that because of budget constraints, more kids is shoved into one classroom. Kids miss out on activities and have to pony up money to buy supplies for classes, supplies that was normally given. They keep saying this gotta be cut, that gotta be cut. We gotta use these books that are ripping and coming apart.

When we accept illegal immigrants into school, the school would have to put more resources in helping those kids learn english and these people have different dialect of spanish, which would make things even more complicated.

Same issue with the supposedly drought and water situation. Surely, having tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of new illegals coming in will make those problems worse. California is almost at a point of rationing water and/or jacking up prices, but Governor Brown welcomes more illegal immigrants.

HOLLYWOOD
08-14-2014, 12:00 AM
Do your homework... look at the timelines

What Holder stated and acted upon

Barry travels to Central America, next thing you know, the floodgates are open

The documentation on the FEMA/Intern camps for illegal aliens

DHS/ICE flying illegals to dozens of states, even Alaska and Hawaii

When were the contracts set for the medical and dental doctors at all these facilities?



The entire operation was planned long ago and executed by many in different department... you either do it, or you're out, was to those .gov employees that objected. This RICO fraud on the American people and taxpayers are treasonous acts of subversions.

56ktarget
08-14-2014, 01:28 AM
Yeah, this will "fix" the economy too. People cant get jobs because of the lack of jobs, and that causes a LOT of competition. So to fix that, they want MORE competition! Go figure. Oh, now they are going to make sure that jobs that require varying degrees of education are on that list as well. The immigrant kids will get Govt grants for being immigrants, you and I wont.

Mundane: OMG my house is on fire! What ever will I do?

Govt: Quick! Set the Garage on fire too! Two fires will fix Inequality!

What happened buddy? I thought competition was a good thing? Are you one of those govt-loving socialists who hate competition?

squarepusher
08-14-2014, 07:29 AM
This is disgusting that my children may have to mix with these poor dirty illegal immigrants children who are probably criminals and addicted to drugs.

RonPaulFanInGA
08-14-2014, 07:34 AM
When I was in middle school in Tennessee, there were two illegal immigrant girls shoehorned into my English class for whatever reason. They spoke little English and the teacher constantly had to cater to them at the expense of everyone else. I can't imagine how bad it'd be if a school suddenly got flooded with them.


What happened buddy? I thought competition was a good thing? Are you one of those govt-loving socialists who hate competition?

The "socialists" are the ones who think U.S. taxpayers should be on the hook for the education of Mexican or South American children.

Spikender
08-14-2014, 07:41 AM
What happened buddy? I thought competition was a good thing? Are you one of those govt-loving socialists who hate competition?

Talk about missing the point.

The fact is that we are forced to subsidize illegal immigrants and their children, which is wrong. Do you think it's morally sound for people to be able to illegally come to our country and then get benefits that tax-paying citizens can't even get?

JK/SEA
08-14-2014, 08:07 AM
lets throw Common Core in the mix, and then lets see what happens....stand back and watch...because Dorothy, we're not in Kansas anymore...

thoughtomator
08-14-2014, 08:36 AM
This is disgusting that my children may have to mix with these poor dirty illegal immigrants children who are probably criminals and addicted to drugs.

you think that's bad, you should see what they are teaching! Pull your kids from government schools, there's no good to come from sending them there.

56ktarget
08-14-2014, 12:45 PM
Talk about missing the point.

The fact is that we are forced to subsidize illegal immigrants and their children, which is wrong. Do you think it's morally sound for people to be able to illegally come to our country and then get benefits that tax-paying citizens can't even get?
And what benefits are those? Oh wait, there are none...

nobody's_hero
08-14-2014, 02:44 PM
I can't imagine how bad it'd be if a school suddenly got flooded with them.

They'd probably just teach Spanish and your kids would just be SOL. (meaning 'shit outta luck' not, you know, 'sun')

invisible
08-14-2014, 02:51 PM
This is the issue I have... They keep telling us that because of budget constraints, more kids is shoved into one classroom. Kids miss out on activities and have to pony up money to buy supplies for classes, supplies that was normally given. They keep saying this gotta be cut, that gotta be cut. We gotta use these books that are ripping and coming apart.


And in other news, the chief pencil pusher and paper shuffler in the district office just got his well-deserved 30% raise as a cost of living adjustment because he couldn't live on the $250,000 a year he was already getting.

johnwk
08-16-2014, 10:19 AM
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Today on the Neil Cavuto show Ben Stein was correct when he pointed out the “law” requiring the various United States to extend the benefit of their public school systems to illegal aliens is “made up”. Ben is correct and the irrefutable fact is, there is no federal law to be found requiring States to extend the privilege of their public school system to children who are not citizens of the United States or of a particular State! The made up “law” is really nothing more than a LETTER (http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/55109196?access_key=key-1j10iwzpaoikhfcm211r) sent out by the Obama Administration’s U.S. Department of Education and the U.S. Department of Justice, and is nothing more than an outrageous piece of propaganda designed to intimidate every State’s public school districts into opening their doors to alien children who are not citizens of the United States or of their State.

The letter states ”As [i]Plyler makes clear, the undocumented or non-citizen status of a student (or his or her parent or guardian) is irrelevant to that student’s entitlement to an elementary and secondary public education. So, as it turns out, what is asserted to be a “law” is nothing more than the Obama Administration’s interpretation of the majority opinion in PLYLER v. DOE, 457 U.S. 202 (1982) (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=457&invol=202)


The majority opinion held with regard to specific conditions laid out and argued before the Court that ”If the State is to deny a discrete group of innocent children the free public education that it offers to other children residing within its borders, that denial must be justified by a showing that it furthers some substantial state interest. No such showing was made here. Accordingly, the judgment of the Court of Appeals in each of these cases is Affirmed.”

Every school district who received the above mentioned letter ought to use it for toilet paper and then send it special delivery back to Eric Holder or the Federal Department of Education and tell them to rub it on their chest! There is no such "law" as pretended by these despots.

JWK



The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion

HOLLYWOOD
08-16-2014, 11:09 AM
It's all the game to increase liberal drone teachers/Common Core brainwashing of the central Borg .gov educational system. Then of course there will be the calls to increase spending more and more money... which has proven a failed point, but it's true motive is to "BUY" unions more cash for votes as the system manifests upon itself.

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oyarde
08-16-2014, 11:42 AM
OK , my State Constitution provides education ( not that I am sure I agree with that ) , it is all pd for by property tax money and half of the total of State tax collected at a tune of around 11k per yr per child total last I looked ( or slightly twice as much more than the private schools in my area) . Now how is Holder having a say over how state tax and county property tax are spent ??

oyarde
08-16-2014, 11:48 AM
Without " free" public school , which is not free because it does not cover books , my state could eliminate property tax and cut state tax in half. I have no need for Holder as well.

oyarde
08-17-2014, 10:13 PM
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