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phill4paul
08-12-2014, 04:40 PM
While serving as a U.S. Marine on patrol in Afghanistan, we wore desert camouflage to blend in with our surroundings, carried rifles to shoot back when under enemy attack, and drove around in armored vehicles to ward off roadside bombs.
We looked intimidating, but all of our vehicles and equipment had a clear purpose for combat against enemy forces. So why is this same gear being used on our city streets?

On Saturday, a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, shot and killed 18-year-old Michael Brown, an unarmed black man. In the days that have followed, the town with a population about 21,000 has seen massive protests in response to the shooting, as some witnesses said Brown had his hands up when he was killed.

Putting aside what started the protests for a moment, it's worth discussing the police response to the outrage. In photos taken on Monday, we are shown a heavily armed SWAT team.

They have short-barreled 5.56-mm rifles based on the military M4 carbine, with scopes that can accurately hit a target out to 500 meters. On their side they carry pistols. On their front, over their body armor, they carry at least four to six extra magazines, loaded with 30 rounds each.


When did this become OK? When did "protect and serve" turn into "us versus them"?

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/police-militarization-ferguson-2014-8#ixzz3ADiBRtGM

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/53ea6ebe6bb3f7c639d07eed-1200-924/ferguson-missouri-9.jpg

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/53ea71eb6da811f52abfd804-1200-667/ap153771871245.jpg

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/53ea6ea2ecad04ed6fbfd807-1200-924/ferguson-missouri-8.jpg

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/53e9f1de69bedd60686a5f22-1200-706/rtr422qz.jpg

and from Times...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu2_Sp_IgAA4Avz.jpg

aGameOfThrones
08-12-2014, 04:45 PM
“There is no reason this type of armor, which is designed for warfare, should be available in our communities except for those who need it, like law enforcement,” Honda said in a statement last week. “There’s nothing more dangerous than what a well-armored, unstoppable active shooter can do. This bill is common-sense and long overdue.”


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tod evans
08-12-2014, 04:49 PM
I'm afraid this is going to take more than one rope....

aGameOfThrones
08-12-2014, 04:56 PM
http://i1.wp.com/farm8.staticflickr.com/7383/14172879551_4443e5a2f5_b.jpg?resize=474%2C400

TheTexan
08-12-2014, 04:58 PM
Well, no cops have been seriously hurt during these riots, right? Clearly the bearcats are working as intended

LibertyEagle
08-12-2014, 05:02 PM
I would have called out the National Guard the first night. But, then again, I watched the looting, the burning, being done by the scum roaming the streets that night.

Justice for Michael Brown! Gimme some rims and cheetos.

With liberty, comes responsibility. A detail many forget.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-08/12/14/enhanced/webdr09/enhanced-buzz-wide-14987-1407868293-6.jpg

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-08/12/14/enhanced/webdr06/enhanced-buzz-wide-21664-1407868338-36.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo662ACauag

TheTexan
08-12-2014, 05:07 PM
I would have called out the National Guard the first night. But, then again, I watched the looting, the burning, being done by the scum roaming the streets that night.

With liberty, comes responsibility. A detail many forget.

I agree 100%. It's of the utmost importance to maintain law & order. Law & order is the glue that holds this great society together.

AuH20
08-12-2014, 05:30 PM
I would have called out the National Guard the first night. But, then again, I watched the looting, the burning, being done by the scum roaming the streets that night.

Justice for Michael Brown! Gimme some rims and cheetos.

With liberty, comes responsibility. A detail many forget.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-08/12/14/enhanced/webdr09/enhanced-buzz-wide-14987-1407868293-6.jpg

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-08/12/14/enhanced/webdr06/enhanced-buzz-wide-21664-1407868338-36.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo662ACauag

If you don't take responsibility for yourself, somebody else will. That seems to be the trend in modern government. They willingly took the white man's trojan horse EBT cards and a host of social services & then act surprised when the police crack down on them? You already sold your dignity away many years ago. Stop complaining. That's my answer. Malcolm X explicitly warned them not to fall into this trap.

James Madison
08-12-2014, 05:30 PM
I would have called out the National Guard the first night. But, then again, I watched the looting, the burning, being done by the scum roaming the streets that night.

Justice for Michael Brown! Gimme some rims and cheetos.

With liberty, comes responsibility. A detail many forget.



Easier to blame government/police.

AuH20
08-12-2014, 05:39 PM
Easier to blame government/police.

I think the government is far more at fault (look at black crime rates in the 1930s -- much lower than the general pop) than the police, but at the end of the day you can't keep running on that same, tired treadmill of victimization.

PaulConventionWV
08-12-2014, 05:44 PM
I would have called out the National Guard the first night. But, then again, I watched the looting, the burning, being done by the scum roaming the streets that night.

Justice for Michael Brown! Gimme some rims and cheetos.

With liberty, comes responsibility. A detail many forget.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-08/12/14/enhanced/webdr09/enhanced-buzz-wide-14987-1407868293-6.jpg

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-08/12/14/enhanced/webdr06/enhanced-buzz-wide-21664-1407868338-36.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo662ACauag

Who are you chastising? We all know there were some idiots that started looting. Nobody's defending that. Frankly, the injustice of the shooting of Michael Brown weighs way more heavily on my mind than people stealing cheetos. And although it was wrong to loot, you don't seem to share this concern. Why not?

PaulConventionWV
08-12-2014, 05:46 PM
I agree 100%. It's of the utmost importance to maintain law & order. Law & order is the glue that holds this great society together.

Yes, it's just a wonderful society, isn't it? God bless 'Murikuh.

Anti Federalist
08-12-2014, 05:50 PM
I agree 100%. It's of the utmost importance to maintain law & order. Law & order is the glue that holds this great society together.

Well stated comrade.


We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do. - Rudy Guliani

donnay
08-12-2014, 05:51 PM
I would have called out the National Guard the first night. But, then again, I watched the looting, the burning, being done by the scum roaming the streets that night.

Justice for Michael Brown! Gimme some rims and cheetos.

With liberty, comes responsibility. A detail many forget.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-08/12/14/enhanced/webdr09/enhanced-buzz-wide-14987-1407868293-6.jpg

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-08/12/14/enhanced/webdr06/enhanced-buzz-wide-21664-1407868338-36.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo662ACauag


It's too bad the store owners weren't around to exercise their 2nd amendment and defend their property.

AuH20
08-12-2014, 05:51 PM
Gun sales booming. Maybe the 2nd amendment can make a comeback. Between the cops and these bozos, there's a chance.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/st-louis-gun-stores-see-boom-in-business-following-rioting/


For the past two days, Steve King has been “unbelievably busy” at his gun store, Metro Shooting at 11434 St. Charles Rock Road. King said business spiked 50 percent as local residents respond to the violent events taking place in Ferguson.

“We’ve sold a variety of handguns, shotguns and AR-15s (a semi-automatic rifle),” King said. “All of the sales are having to do with home defense.”

King, who owns the store that has 17 employees and 2013 revenue of about $2 million, added that customers have ranged from new firearm buyers to those upgrading their current arsenal. He said both black and white individuals have purchased firearms at his store over the past few days.

“Usually it’s pretty slow through the summer, but this has been a huge spike for business,” King said. “People are hunkering down because those events are taking place too close to their own home … in some cases, a half a mile away. Lots of people are afraid.”

Officials at Mid America Arms, at 8205 Gravois Road, have seen a similar increase in business. Owner Al Rothweiler had to break away from his jammed-packed store this afternoon to talk to the Business Journal.

“We were closed Sunday and Monday, but today, sales have been brisk, and the store is full of people,” said Rothweiler, who estimated that his sales were also up 50 percent Tuesday compared with a typical day in August. “Everyone who bought today mentioned something about Ferguson.”

Before this week’s spike, Rothweiler said August had been a slow month for the $3.5 million business, but he doesn’t expect the spike to continue.

Brian4Liberty
08-12-2014, 06:01 PM
It's too bad the store owners weren't around the exercise their 2nd amendment and defend their property.

Yep. Owners fleeing and leaving their property undefended is a big part of the problem. Guns usually would not even be necessary. The mere presence of owners and employees (and security guards) usually prevents looting. Once a place is abandoned, the mentality is that it's all free for the taking.

osan
08-12-2014, 06:38 PM
Can anyone here say they are surprised at this?

In a nutshell: cop murders unarmed civilian in all too common dead-knee-grow scenario. Rest of local knee-grows then have the temerity to react unfavorably to the act of butchery (imagine that). Cops respond with militarized force to make sure knee-grows are reminded of "their place", most especially justified in their twisted, tiny, roid-raging minds in the wake of the graffiti about the only good cops being dead ones. The nerve! Cops now must teach knee-grows who be boss in da'hood, and let us never forget whose fault this is: knee-grows.

The question remains: what will be done about this, if anything, that is substantive? My prediction: nothing, and may I be proven dead wrong.

The problem for "us" is that because the local knee-grows showed the unmitigated gall to leave their homes and express their displeasure, the police will now use it as the tacit pretext for gunning down as many well-tanned hides as they please, if perchance those people don't wise-up and retreat into their crack-dens where they belong. If they do not, this will serve as prima facie proof that the hallowed police of Ferguson faced clear and immediate threats to life and limb, thereby justifying in typical fashion any response they may choose to undertake. This works well enough when used against single individuals, as typified by cases such as those of Amadou Diallo and Abner Lwima. Now that they might face a huge mass of 20 or even more obviously dangerous knee-grows, I would bet the sky's the limit.

What will the locals do? Likely: complain and eventually retreat and live with marginally increased paranoia and bitterness. They will take no substantive action - we really never do. The police will feel incrementally empowered and will become more dangerous than they were before.

And of course our darling media will, for the most part, wring their hands as they feel they must in order to present the right appearances to the viewing audience. They will "question" the police action, but only ever-so-gently, and the blatantly criminal nature of the police will never be hinted at in even the most oblique manner. No no, we will likely receive the standard play of tacit nonsense about how the world would come to a fiery end were police to be reeled in, much less eliminated. They may even go on some diatribe to remind us how "brave" cops are and how fraught with danger is their "profession". In the end, the tacit message will be that we all owe the police our adulation, if not free blow jobs every Thursday night, and our unwavering, unquestioning obedience because they are the authority to which we much give fealty.

What would please me to no end would be if the people of Ferguson got up, got pissed, got organized, and send a few of those bastards to the ER, or perhaps the slab. But naturally this would avail the nation nothing as a whole because such isolated instances are easily squelched and forgotten. Just look at Waco if you doubt this. The FBI incinerated 70+ people and few give the least damn today. The only way to put this to ends is for massively synced up action, and that I am afraid is not going to happen, barring the rise of some extraordinary circumstance.

In the end, this will likely be just another example of the SOS. May I be proven wrong on that point, as well.

osan
08-12-2014, 07:32 PM
If you don't take responsibility for yourself, somebody else will.

One of those details lots of people seem to forget.


That seems to be the trend in modern government.

Nothing modern about it. Theye have been doing this for ages. Encourage the bad behavior, then claim authority based on "necessity". It's a perennial winner for those who covet political power.


They willingly took the white man's trojan horse EBT cards and a host of social services & then act surprised when the police crack down on them? You already sold your dignity away many years ago. Stop complaining. That's my answer.

Agreed. The problem, however, is that the rest of us get sucked into their maelstrom of willful stupidity and personal corruption.


Malcolm X explicitly warned them not to fall into this trap.

Which relates to the core reasons he was eliminated and that rat-bastard MLK jr. was elevated on high. Malcolm X sought to see the black man elevate himself, whereas King's message, when separated from the muddied waters of his phony baloney rhetoric that so many appear to find so inspiring, was to paw at the white man's back do', beggin' d'mazzah let he inside. King was perfect for reducing the so-called "black community" to the state of ash in which it now finds itself for the most part. X's communities would have been a whole other ball of wax and probably had many of the "establishment" types shitting their Jockey's. Suffice to say, America stood to have become a very different place.

AuH20
08-12-2014, 07:38 PM
Which relates to the core reasons he was eliminated and that rat-bastard MLK jr. was elevated on high. Malcolm X sought to see the black man elevate himself, whereas King's message, when separated from the muddied waters of his phony baloney rhetoric that so many appear to find so inspiring, was to paw at the white man's back do', beggin' d'mazzah let he inside. King was perfect for reducing the so-called "black community" to the state of ash in which it now finds itself for the most part. X's communities would have been a whole other ball of wax and probably had many of the "establishment" types shitting their Jockey's. Suffice to say, America stood to have become a very different place.

Malcolm X knew the black community was still mired in a state of identity crisis, which is why he stressed for blacks to remove themselves from the persistent distraction of the white man, whether it be the American political sphere or the white man's questionable institutions. He stressed community independence and in some cases voluntary segregation. In retrospect, he was proved to be right, since the same denials keep reappearing with no progress made. The subconscious crutch embodied by the white man needs to be broken, so they can move on and rebuild.

SeanTX
08-12-2014, 07:48 PM
I saw some video that claims that police were firing teargas grenades into peoples fenced-in back yards -- funny to hear them telling the police "no, you go home!" . We've seen so many vids of police telling people that they can't be outside their own homes, and a lot of people have been beaten/arrested over that, time for the tables to be turned . I read somewhere there's an 11pm curfew for tonight, it could get interesting ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qXhtvd0o2Fw

Antischism
08-12-2014, 07:58 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxbFjWCUAAoI58.png

Antischism
08-12-2014, 08:04 PM
I saw some video that claims that police were firing teargas grenades into peoples fenced-in back yards -- funny to hear them telling the police "no, you go home!" . We've seen so many vids of police telling people that they can't be outside their own homes, and a lot of people have been beaten/arrested over that, time for the tables to be turned . I read somewhere there's an 11pm curfew for tonight, it could get interesting ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qXhtvd0o2Fw

Someone should print and pass a flyer around with this out there:

http://37.media.tumblr.com/fcf1bc6ca233531e25691ec5edc02014/tumblr_na725sKwNj1qhodu2o1_1280.jpg

Anti Federalist
08-12-2014, 08:58 PM
Story here:

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/08/police_in_ferguson_fire_tear_gas_on_protesters_wit h_hands_up_in_their_own_backyard.php


I saw some video that claims that police were firing teargas grenades into peoples fenced-in back yards -- funny to hear them telling the police "no, you go home!" . We've seen so many vids of police telling people that they can't be outside their own homes, and a lot of people have been beaten/arrested over that, time for the tables to be turned . I read somewhere there's an 11pm curfew for tonight, it could get interesting ...

acptulsa
08-12-2014, 08:58 PM
In a nutshell: cop murders unarmed civilian in all too common dead-knee-grow scenario. Rest of local knee-grows then have the temerity to react unfavorably to the act of butchery (imagine that). Cops respond with militarized force to make sure knee-grows are reminded of "their place", most especially justified in their twisted, tiny, roid-raging minds in the wake of the graffiti about the only good cops being dead ones. The nerve! Cops now must teach knee-grows who be boss in da'hood, and let us never forget whose fault this is: knee-grows.

Who be boss in da hood...?

I don't see signs of da hood having any boss right now.

Philhelm
08-12-2014, 09:02 PM
http://i1.wp.com/farm8.staticflickr.com/7383/14172879551_4443e5a2f5_b.jpg?resize=474%2C400

Without trying to be silly, Imperial Stormtroopers were far less bloodthirsty and far more polite.

Origanalist
08-12-2014, 09:06 PM
Who be boss in da hood...?

I don't see signs of da hood having any boss right now.

I don't see that continuing much longer. How ironic would it be to have a full scale nation wide black uprising in the first black presidency?

CPUd
08-12-2014, 09:28 PM
Riot police responding to a riot, go figure.


When did this become OK? When did "protect and serve" turn into "us versus them"?

It's been headed in this direction since at least the 60's

http://i.imgur.com/LYa20a7.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/mQd9f5Q.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PMCC0eN.jpg

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-12-2014, 09:47 PM
Malcolm X explicitly warned them not to fall into this trap.


X's communities would have been a whole other ball of wax and probably had many of the "establishment" types shitting their Jockey's. Suffice to say, America stood to have become a very different place.

Yes, well said, I think. King served a very useful government purpose.

Mani
08-13-2014, 12:43 AM
From the article:

"Why do these cops need MARPAT camo pants again," I asked on Twitter this morning. One of the most interesting responses came from a follower who says he served in the Army's 82nd Airborne Division: "We rolled lighter than that in an actual warzone."

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 07:45 AM
Paramilitary Police Are Changing Law Enforcement in the Suburbs
SWAT teams, riot gear, armored vehicles, and other super-sized police equipment and tactics are spreading into smaller spaces and conflicts.

Of the many tragic images to emerge from Ferguson, Missouri, over the weekend, one of the most disturbing—and increasingly common—was the sight of a military vehicle patrolling suburban streets. Protesters outraged by the police killing of 18-year-old Ferguson resident Michael Brown were met by police in riot gear, police carrying assault rifles, and police aboard a LENCO BearCat, a type of military armored vehicle.

According to a public information officer with the St. Louis County Police Department, the county dispatched two armored vehicles on Saturday in response to "unrest." Yet it was not until Sunday that some grieving community members answered perceived injustice with violence, looting about a dozen shops. As of Saturday, when the BearCat took to the streets of Ferguson (population 21,000), protesters were assembling peacefully.


St. Louis County is just one of the many municipalities in the U.S. that now commands access to military equipment meant for war. The paramilitarization of suburban police forces, or the suburbanization of paramilitary police forces, adds another question to those lingering over Brown's tragic death: Did the police response only make matters worse?


Nowhere was that clearer this weekend than in Ferguson, where protesters demonstrated with their hands raised in surrender in the vicinity of police—a disgraceful sight in America. At a broader level, there is no research that tracks how police using military tactics and equipment affects civilian safety (or police safety, for that matter).


http://www.citylab.com/crime/2014/08/paramilitary-police-are-changing-law-enforcement-in-the-suburbs/375855/

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 07:45 AM
dupe

Henry Rogue
08-13-2014, 07:56 AM
Without trying to be silly, Imperial Stormtroopers were far less bloodthirsty and far more polite.
But about the same accuracy with weapons.

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 10:42 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6BBK_U3qnms/U-rA4XDgXbI/AAAAAAAAKug/YXA7hE8LRKA/s1600/War%2BZone.jpg

Lucille
08-13-2014, 05:30 PM
Massive SWAT Team Clearing Streets In Ferguson: "This Is Not Open For Discussion" - Live Feed
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-13/ferguson-reignites-police-shoot-2nd-man-obamas-response-insultingly-inadequate

Lucille
08-13-2014, 05:36 PM
LOL at the cops: Your right to assemble is not being denied.

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 05:40 PM
LOL at the cops: Your right to assemble is not being denied.

It's not. You retain the privilege of doing it where you are told to.

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/first-amendment-area-2.jpg

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 05:42 PM
Thanks Lucille... outta rep. :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu9BvanIQAAZAXj.jpg

AmeriKa!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu9A0J6CYAIR4Jq.jpg

Lucille
08-13-2014, 05:44 PM
It's not. You retain the privilege of doing it where you are told to.

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/first-amendment-area-2.jpg

Great point! (I'm outta rep for you too.)

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 05:54 PM
Great point! (I'm outta rep for you too.)

Peaceably assembling?

http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/2b/db/80/00/000_453492516.si.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_NTK7FPC711oFRt3NtxqzXGhFP7MWE NoB9voKTaCXwFo6DQml

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXfbKkGVQqL7Lxh0oVqJ5jPZfudNwU1 gO07c-Z3QWey4R7SAETxg

Anyone else with Liberty Eagle? Let's send in the National Guard and nip this in the bud. Psshaw! What am I talking about? The cops got better shit than the Guard these days.

NIU Students for Liberty
08-13-2014, 05:58 PM
Without trying to be silly, Imperial Stormtroopers were far less bloodthirsty and far more polite.

I don't know about politeness but they definitely had worse aim.

Lucille
08-13-2014, 05:59 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/13/another-confrontation-potentially-brewin


Once again an extremely militarized police force is facing down peaceful protesters in Ferguson and trying to get them to disperse. There are dozens of officers, some counting more than 70 and reports that there are snipers with weapons pointed at the crowd.

Reddit has a live stream gathering all the information coming out as it happens here. For those willing to endure the occasional conspiracy theory, Infowars has a live USStream right there at the front where it's all going down.

@@ at the infowars slam.

DamianTV
08-13-2014, 06:16 PM
I agree 100%. It's of the utmost importance to maintain law & order. Law & order is the glue that holds this great society together.

Fully agree. And also it identifies our problem. They are the ones that get to decide what the "Law" is. They have decreed that it is just fine and dandy for Cops to shoot mundanes with TANKS, but it is Unlawful for a mundane to shoot a Rubber Band at any Govt employee. The glue of Law and Order is falling apart at the seams and resulting in Riots. Unfortunately, it is resulting in Looting too. We have NO Law and have lost that Order.

As LibertyEagle said, Freedom comes with Responsibility. People have given up their Responsibility to maintain Order when the Law has obviously faltered. They organized a Peaceful Protest, to which more tanks, tear gas grenades and rubber bullets were used against those who initially called out for Equal Application of the Law. The Cop murdered an innocent, but the Law will not apply to whoever that Cop is. The protests were turned violent by the Cops, not by the Citizens. The whole thing could have been very easily avoided at MANY steps. Hold the Cop accountable. Dont shoot the innocent in the first place. Dont create "Weapons of Freedom", then use them domestically when that conflict is over. Just because the Govt still has them doesnt mean they need to use them. Any of these steps could have stopped protests in their tracks if those that write the Law would have listened. How many innocents have been sentenced to LIFE in Prison due to Three Strikes Laws, but we can not hold a single Bad Cop accountable for the most heinous of offenses?

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” - CS Lewis

"When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law." - The Law

The people of Ferguson have obviously lost their respect for The Law. The same Law that helps to create Order. That same Order that has been lost that creates Responsibility. And that same Responsibility that comes from holding those who violate the law fully, justly, and fairly accountable for their violations of the Law. A downward spiral.


There's NO Rule of Law... when the crime that is charged, not based upon what law was broken, but by who committed it.

DamianTV
08-13-2014, 06:18 PM
LOL at the cops: Your right to assemble is not being denied.

Peaceful Assembly makes Group Executions much easier.

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 06:25 PM
Fully agree. And also it identifies our problem. They are the ones that get to decide what the "Law" is. They have decreed that it is just fine and dandy for Cops to shoot mundanes with TANKS, but it is Unlawful for a mundane to shoot a Rubber Band at any Govt employee. The glue of Law and Order is falling apart at the seams and resulting in Riots. Unfortunately, it is resulting in Looting too. We have NO Law and have lost that Order.

As LibertyEagle said, Freedom comes with Responsibility. People have given up their Responsibility to maintain Order when the Law has obviously faltered. They organized a Peaceful Protest, to which more tanks, tear gas grenades and rubber bullets were used against those who initially called out for Equal Application of the Law. The Cop murdered an innocent, but the Law will not apply to whoever that Cop is. The protests were turned violent by the Cops, not by the Citizens. The whole thing could have been very easily avoided at MANY steps. Hold the Cop accountable. Dont shoot the innocent in the first place. Dont create "Weapons of Freedom", then use them domestically when that conflict is over. Just because the Govt still has them doesnt mean they need to use them. Any of these steps could have stopped protests in their tracks if those that write the Law would have listened. How many innocents have been sentenced to LIFE in Prison due to Three Strikes Laws, but we can not hold a single Bad Cop accountable for the most heinous of offenses?

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” - CS Lewis

"When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law." - The Law

The people of Ferguson have obviously lost their respect for The Law. The same Law that helps to create Order. That same Order that has been lost that creates Responsibility. And that same Responsibility that comes from holding those who violate the law fully, justly, and fairly accountable for their violations of the Law. A downward spiral.

http://www.theblogmocracy.com/wp-content/uploads/Please-Applaud-With-Hands-Only.gif

hardrightedge
08-13-2014, 07:10 PM
I've been watching the inforwars feed...

It's an anti-white rally...simply as that...

Cleaner44
08-13-2014, 07:20 PM
People are just doing their best to improve the local economy just like they were taught...

https://comparesilverprices.com/images/paul_krugman_broken_window_fallacy.png

AuH20
08-13-2014, 07:21 PM
I've been watching the inforwars feed...

It's an anti-white rally...simply as that...

Too much distrust augmented by years of conditioning. It may be better in the long run to just give blacks two small states & relocate all the whites out. This is going to get progressively worse, especially when the dollar dies.

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 07:26 PM
I've been watching the inforwars feed...

It's an anti-white rally...simply as that...

Yeah..

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/b0/3b0bbe21-bad6-54ac-8416-dce07bd9e090/53ea10dabfaec.preview-620.jpg

http://static0.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/5500-9/photos/1407775089-community-in-ferguson-protests-against-death-of-teenager_5502259.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bux-5C7IcAAmz6u.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQeg09PaIwsehZHkd6NwjHyJW_GItBuX gbPJi6h-C48raQDA33m

Fuckin' crackers...:rolleyes:

Well earned neg rep...............

AuH20
08-13-2014, 07:29 PM
Yeah..

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/b0/3b0bbe21-bad6-54ac-8416-dce07bd9e090/53ea10dabfaec.preview-620.jpg

http://static0.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/5500-9/photos/1407775089-community-in-ferguson-protests-against-death-of-teenager_5502259.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bux-5C7IcAAmz6u.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQeg09PaIwsehZHkd6NwjHyJW_GItBuX gbPJi6h-C48raQDA33m

Fuckin' crackers...:rolleyes:

Well earned neg rep...............

A few token whites? Let's be serious here man.

hardrightedge
08-13-2014, 07:29 PM
Yeah..

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/b0/3b0bbe21-bad6-54ac-8416-dce07bd9e090/53ea10dabfaec.preview-620.jpg

http://static0.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/5500-9/photos/1407775089-community-in-ferguson-protests-against-death-of-teenager_5502259.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bux-5C7IcAAmz6u.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQeg09PaIwsehZHkd6NwjHyJW_GItBuX gbPJi6h-C48raQDA33m

Fuckin' crackers...:rolleyes:

Well earned neg rep...............


Go fuck yourself pussy....

Were you watching the feed?

Take your neg rep and shove it up your ass, clown...

AuH20
08-13-2014, 07:30 PM
Go fuck yourself pussy....

Were you watching the feed?

Take your neg rep and shove it up your ass, clown...

Relax. But you're right about the feed.

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 07:40 PM
Go fuck yourself pussy....

Were you watching the feed?

Take your neg rep and shove it up your ass, clown...

P.M. me if you want to speak to me directly. I look forward to meeting you.


A few token whites? Let's be serious here man.

Oh get the fuck out of here already. These are whites that live in a predominate black neighborhood.
Did you think they bused them in? SMDH.

AuH20
08-13-2014, 07:43 PM
The feed just got gassed. You can hear them gagging.

AuH20
08-13-2014, 07:45 PM
Dear residents of Ferguson,

Hold off on the booze and cigs for a week and purchase one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/40mm-NATO-SGE-150-Mask/dp/B00CQVDQDY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1407980675&sr=8-4&keywords=gas+mask

hardrightedge
08-13-2014, 07:46 PM
It is no longer a peaceful protest...you must leave, or be subject to arrest...

AuH20
08-13-2014, 07:49 PM
It is no longer a peaceful protest...you must leave, or be subject to arrest...

These cats are so disorganized & unprepared. They need apple seed training and a 3 weeks of common field tactics.

AuH20
08-13-2014, 07:50 PM
Car Wash is on fire. Hit with a molly.

TheBlackPeterSchiff
08-13-2014, 07:52 PM
This is nuts. MULTIPLE journalists at the scene are reporting there is NO Looting going on. There was some a few days ago right after the shooting. But all of this is to put their foot on the citizens of Ferguson. I know you guys get tired of hearing about racism so ignore that. AMERICAN CITY IS BEING OCCUPIED BY MILITARIZED POLICE paid for with by YOU!

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 07:56 PM
These cats are so disorganized & unprepared. They need apple seed training and a 3 weeks of common field tactics.

And this, what I believe your implication might be, you would condone?

DamianTV
08-13-2014, 07:57 PM
Back on topic.

The difference between the Law and the Constitution is that the Law restricts the actions individuals while the Constitution restricts the actions of those who create, interpret, and apply the Law. Without a Constitution, the Law will inevitably deprive the people of their Rights until all men, regardless of color of skin, are all of them enslaved to whomever controls the Law. Ferguson has become a Constitution Free Zone, and they wonder why people protest when the aforementioned consequences occur.

"We have the authority to shoot you, as well as the authority to shoot again when you protest the first shooting."

Now, why are we getting such a massive conflict of information? Cops say the kid went for his Gun while in the back of a police car, a witness said that the kid had his hands up and was walking backwards as instructed because his behavior was "compliant" (as said by the accordingly reputable witness), while the family says the kid was laying down on the ground face first and surrendering when he got shot. What REALLY happened? And what else really happened? Did the Cops LIE? Did the MSM stick up for the Cop and ignore other conflicting reports offering bias to the testimony of the Cop? Is the MSM interested at all in the TRUTH? Race probably does play its role here, however the responsibility of defending the Equal Rights of ALL Men is incumbent upon everyone. Edward Snowden has the support of the people despite what MSM says. Bundy Ranch had the support of the people, despite what MSM says. Michael Brown, the kid who got killed, has the support of the people despite what MSM says. Just because Michales Brown was black is a Low Hanging Fruit.

Michael Brown did NOT do this to himself.

AuH20
08-13-2014, 07:58 PM
And this, what I believe your implication might be, you would condone?

I have no problem with them engaging the police and meeting them in the field of battle. If you have a legitimate quarrel with the police, let's see you muster a fighting force. I do have a problem with them looting though since it's not relevant to the core concern.

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 08:01 PM
I have no problem with them engaging the police and meeting them in the field of battle. If you have a legitimate quarrel with the police, let's see you muster a fighting force. I do have a problem with them looting though since it's not relevant to the core concern.

And the peaceful protests. You have a problem with those?

fr33
08-13-2014, 08:02 PM
It is no longer a peaceful protest...you must leave, or be subject to arrest...

Peaceful protests accomplish nothing. Staring down the barrel at Bundy ranch taught us that.

AuH20
08-13-2014, 08:03 PM
And the peaceful protests. You have a problem with those?

No. But police thrive on intimidation and fear. It's pretty useless if that is their goal.

AuH20
08-13-2014, 08:08 PM
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 08:09 PM
No. But police thrive on intimidation and fear. It's pretty useless if that is their goal.

Then what is your beef? The looting? Who is responsible for protecting their own property? Who is given the responsibility for shooting jay walkers?

phill4paul
08-13-2014, 08:10 PM
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

There's white people there. It has to be a fake.....

hardrightedge
08-13-2014, 08:10 PM
Peaceful protests accomplish nothing. Staring down the barrel at Bundy ranch taught us that.

yep...

those aren't my words...I was repeating what the cops(military) were saying to the protesters...

forgot quotes...

AuH20
08-13-2014, 08:19 PM
"Who in they right minds carry a big ass shotguns? We carry handguns"

Lady, you need to change this. Prepare accordingly.

Lucille
08-14-2014, 09:07 AM
It's not. You retain the privilege of doing it where you are told to.

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/first-amendment-area-2.jpg

Speaking of Bundy, have you guys seen the progs wondering why the Bundy people aren't in Ferguson? I've seen several posts on the Bundy Ranch FB page. They went from calling for armed drones to kill them all, to wanting them in Ferguson and accusing them of being racist for not being there. LOL

http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2014/08/a-nonexistent-nation.html


nich, 12 August 2014 at 9:15 pm
In fact, speaking of the fucking Bundy brigade, where the fuck are all the freedom fighters using their precious 2nd amendment rights to protect the citizenry from tyranny? They’ll show up armed to the teeth to protect some fucking cows and keep the darkies on their side of the border, but the government actually rolls up in armored vehicles to squash a legitimate protest and it’s fucking crickets from these clowns.

AuH20
08-14-2014, 09:08 AM
Have you guys seen the progs wondering why the Bundy people aren't in Ferguson? I've seen several posts on the Bundy Ranch FB page. They went from calling for armed drones to kill them all, to wanting them in Ferguson and accusing them of being racist for not being there. LOL

http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2014/08/a-nonexistent-nation.html

Racist my ass.

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/6ce99d3185004eb31b160f38500b4c389c0f4a57/c=322-0-3038-2044&r=x513&c=680x510/local/-/media/KSDK/KSDK/2014/08/11/1407789637002-SLP2014081110.jpg

Lucille
08-14-2014, 10:19 AM
Ferguson: "War Zone Or US City?"... The Morning After
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-14/ferguson-latest-morning-after


Ferguson suffered its 5th night of unrest; as we feared during the day yesterday, when night fell in Ferguson, a combination of massive SWAT team presence and an increasingly disillusioned citizenry were a recipe for disaster. Over 70 heavily-armed police enforced quasi-martial-law in the troubled town, at least 10 people were arrested, tear gas and rubber bullets were unleashed, and 2 reporters were (briefly) arrested. Perhaps Rep. Justin Amash summed it up best, "Is this a war zone or a US city? Gov't escalates tensions w/military equipment & tactics."
[...]
As Michael Snyder asks - How is it possible that our once very peaceful nation has fallen apart so dramatically?

Let’s be honest – Ferguson, Missouri is under military occupation right now, and the entire world is watching in horror as militarized police fire tear gas and rubber bullets at unarmed protesters. Yes, the rioting and looting in Ferguson needed to be stopped. If order had not been restored, more stores and businesses would have been destroyed. However, there is no excuse for the brutal tactics now being employed. At one point, police snipers were even using laser scopes to target protesters that were obviously unarmed. Sadly, this is just a preview of what is coming to America in the years ahead. As the economy falls apart and people become even more angry and even more frustrated, there will be a lot more incidents of civil unrest like we have just witnessed in Ferguson. And in response, the federal government and our overly militarized police will seek to crush those uprisings with overwhelming force. ... when police get all of this equipment, it is inevitable that they are going to use it.
[...]
So what can we do about this?

How can we change the system?

How can we reverse this alarming militarization of our police?

Unfortunately, our system has become so corrupt that there is very little that we can do. In fact, one newly released study discovered that average Americans have a “near-zero” statistical impact on public policy…
[...]
This is America...

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/08/20140814_ferg10.jpg

“We Tear-Gassed Some Folks" - Obama Makes Statement On Ferguson, Iraq
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-14/%E2%80%9Cwe-tear-gassed-some-folks-obama-makes-statement-ferguson


While we are sure President Obama will comment on the apparent US intelligence failure that Chuck Hagel explained last night - there were far fewer 'refugees' on Mt.Sinjar than expected... but Iraq is still a troubled nation; we suspect the calmer-in-chief will address the situation in Ferguson. Having already disappointed many African American residents of Ferguson, who rejected his previous comments as "insultingly inadequate," it seems the President will take a few minutes out of his day to address the turmoil in middle America... 'we tear-gassed some folks...'

President Obama is due to speak at 1215ET - plan accordingly...

libertyjam
08-14-2014, 10:33 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu_52-9IMAAYJ4v.jpg
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/499892809638633472/photo/1


The clip shows Al-Jazeera journalists preparing to do a live camera shot of the scene in Ferguson before they are hit with a round of tear gas. The reporters run in the opposite direction. Subsequent photographs show militarized police officers seizing and dismantling their camera equipment as another officer points a sniper rifle at the fleeing reporters.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/shock-video-ferguson-police-deliberately-tear-gas-journalists/

Video at link


Shocking footage out of Ferguson, Missouri shows that police are deliberately targeting journalists as part of a military-style crackdown that has caused outrage, with even Newsweek acknowledging that U.S. law enforcement is now akin to an occupying army.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
08-14-2014, 10:37 AM
Shocking footage out of Ferguson, Missouri shows that police are deliberately targeting journalists as part of a military-style crackdown that has caused outrage, with even Newsweek acknowledging that U.S. law enforcement is now akin to an occupying army.

Newsweek will conclude that there are good police departments and bad police departments.

Lucille
08-14-2014, 10:59 AM
THE ENEMY IS YOU
http://www.theburningplatform.com/2014/08/14/the-enemy-is-you/

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2014/06/Police%20State_0.jpg

phill4paul
08-14-2014, 11:52 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu_52-9IMAAYJ4v.jpg
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/499892809638633472/photo/1


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/shock-video-ferguson-police-deliberately-tear-gas-journalists/

Video at link

Kidnapped journalists released with no charges. Cops won't identify arresting officer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p_AnZIv_WY

heavenlyboy34
08-14-2014, 12:12 PM
Back on topic.

The difference between the Law and the Constitution is that the Law restricts the actions individuals while the Constitution restricts the actions of those who create, interpret, and apply the Law. Without a Constitution, the Law will inevitably deprive the people of their Rights until all men, regardless of color of skin, are all of them enslaved to whomever controls the Law. Ferguson has become a Constitution Free Zone, and they wonder why people protest when the aforementioned consequences occur.

"We have the authority to shoot you, as well as the authority to shoot again when you protest the first shooting."

Now, why are we getting such a massive conflict of information? Cops say the kid went for his Gun while in the back of a police car, a witness said that the kid had his hands up and was walking backwards as instructed because his behavior was "compliant" (as said by the accordingly reputable witness), while the family says the kid was laying down on the ground face first and surrendering when he got shot. What REALLY happened? And what else really happened? Did the Cops LIE? Did the MSM stick up for the Cop and ignore other conflicting reports offering bias to the testimony of the Cop? Is the MSM interested at all in the TRUTH? Race probably does play its role here, however the responsibility of defending the Equal Rights of ALL Men is incumbent upon everyone. Edward Snowden has the support of the people despite what MSM says. Bundy Ranch had the support of the people, despite what MSM says. Michael Brown, the kid who got killed, has the support of the people despite what MSM says. Just because Michales Brown was black is a Low Hanging Fruit.

Michael Brown did NOT do this to himself.

A lofty ideal, but not gonna happen-and never has happened.

pcosmar
08-14-2014, 12:38 PM
Huffington Post, Washington Post Reporters Arrested, Assaulted By Ferguson Police

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/13/reporters-arrested-ferguson-ryan-reilly-wesley-lowery_n_5676841.html


“I hope you’re happy with yourself,” one officer told me. And I responded: “This story’s going to get out there. It’s going to be on the front page of The Washington Post tomorrow.”

And he said, “Yeah, well, you’re going to be in my jail cell tonight.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-ferguson-washington-post-reporter-wesley-lowery-gives-account-of-his-arrest/2014/08/13/0fe25c0e-2359-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html


Multiple officers grabbed me. I tried to turn my back to them to assist them in arresting me. I dropped the things from my hands.

“My hands are behind my back,” I said. “I’m not resisting. I’m not resisting.” At which point one officer said: “You’re resisting. Stop resisting.”

That was when I was most afraid — more afraid than of the tear gas and rubber bullets.

Lucille
08-14-2014, 01:27 PM
Obama Speaks on Ferguson Events; Has Nothing to Say About Police Militarization
http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/14/obama-speaks-on-ferguson-events-has-noth


I thought about highlighting some comments from the four-minute speech, but it's just that shitty that I can't quote anything that you can't just make up in your own head. Calls for peace and calm? Check. Statement that feds are investigating? Check. Declaration that we all have "shared values" in the face of clear evidence otherwise? Check. Belief that we're all equal under the law as though that has ever been the case for law enforcement officers? Check. Here's an Associated Press story you can skim if you can't watch the video.

Completely absent: Any sort of reference to the militarization of the police, the very thing that has become a central, fundamental part of this narrative. It's the one component that is drawing the left and the right together. And yet, the issue of these police officers having absurd, unnecessary weapons and trucks is completely unmentioned. Contrast Obama's response to Sen. Rand Paul's criticism in Time that our police forces have become a military presence.

It shouldn't be a surprise, though. Where did the police department get this equipment? The militarization of the police has happened with the participation and encouragement of the executive branch of the federal government. Did anybody actually expect Obama to suggest the idea that government is too powerful? Don't be silly.

That's because Progs LOVE the Police State (http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/65142?).

Anti Federalist
08-14-2014, 03:53 PM
nich, 12 August 2014 at 9:15 pm
In fact, speaking of the fucking Bundy brigade, where the fuck are all the freedom fighters using their precious 2nd amendment rights to protect the citizenry from tyranny? They’ll show up armed to the teeth to protect some fucking cows and keep the darkies on their side of the border, but the government actually rolls up in armored vehicles to squash a legitimate protest and it’s fucking crickets from these clowns.

How about, you, first?

That said:

If anybody hears of a credible effort to get patriots on scene in Ferguson, I'll support it.

Philhelm
08-14-2014, 04:03 PM
How about, you, first?

That said:

If anybody hears of a credible effort to get patriots on scene in Ferguson, I'll support it.

Honestly, I wouldn't think of going unless I had already decided that I would be pulling the trigger and initiating a firefight at the time and location of my choosing. The police have a tactical advantage at this point, and a rubber bullet to the nuts has got to hurt.

Occam's Banana
08-14-2014, 07:10 PM
http://i1.wp.com/farm8.staticflickr.com/7383/14172879551_4443e5a2f5_b.jpg?resize=474%2C400

Without trying to be silly, Imperial Stormtroopers were far less bloodthirsty and far more polite.
That's only because Darth Vader is a big stickler when it comes to uniform regs.
Spatters of blood, guts & brain matter really stand out on that white armor ...

Pericles
08-14-2014, 07:41 PM
I think the government is far more at fault (look at black crime rates in the 1930s -- much lower than the general pop) than the police, but at the end of the day you can't keep running on that same, tired treadmill of victimization.

The current problem is that the Wealth Redistribution Engineers are distracting from the need to find out why an unarmed citizen has an encounter with the police and is dead as a result.

Pericles
08-14-2014, 07:45 PM
Peaceful protests accomplish nothing. Staring down the barrel at Bundy ranch taught us that.

Political power comes from the barrel of a gun. And the gun must never leave the hand of:
(A) The Communist Party (The Sayings of Chairman Mao)
(B) the people (Tenche Coxe in voting for the 2A)

Carson
08-14-2014, 07:47 PM
I just saw some good news on the news about Ferguson.

She said, "See those people in the streets marching with white shirts?" Those are members of the Highway Patrol marching with the protesters. She said they have been put in charge of crowd control tonight.

It sounds like they pulled out the tanks, the people yelling orders and pointing guns.

Maybe it will cool down before the weekend?

amy31416
08-14-2014, 07:55 PM
Honestly, I wouldn't think of going unless I had already decided that I would be pulling the trigger and initiating a firefight at the time and location of my choosing. The police have a tactical advantage at this point, and a rubber bullet to the nuts has got to hurt.

You never heard of a cup?

enhanced_deficit
08-14-2014, 07:58 PM
I would have called out the National Guard the first night. But, then again, I watched the looting, the burning, being done by the scum roaming the streets that night.

Justice for Michael Brown! Gimme some rims and cheetos.

With liberty, comes responsibility. A detail many forget.

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-08/12/14/enhanced/webdr09/enhanced-buzz-wide-14987-1407868293-6.jpg

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-08/12/14/enhanced/webdr06/enhanced-buzz-wide-21664-1407868338-36.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo662ACauag



Two words -- Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Militirized Freedom comes home to roost.

Freedom is just as good for Iraqi Arabs as it is for US Americans.

Philhelm
08-14-2014, 08:00 PM
You never heard of a cup?

From the pictures I've seen, those rubber bullets are no joke, and a cup isn't perfect protection.

amy31416
08-14-2014, 08:04 PM
From the pictures I've seen, those rubber bullets are no joke, and a cup isn't perfect protection.

Well, better than nothing I guess, but I'm thankfully not so familiar with the device myself. Rubber bullets can and have killed people--even those bean bag shots leave one hell of a mark.

AuH20
08-14-2014, 08:05 PM
From the pictures I've seen, those rubber bullets are no joke, and a cup isn't perfect protection.

A goaltender cup may the only piece of equipment that may work.

aGameOfThrones
08-14-2014, 08:05 PM
there is a murderer whose name has not been made available yet. so many good cops protecting him.

Pericles
08-14-2014, 08:05 PM
You never heard of a cup?

That is why the military Individual Body Armor come with the "nut flap".

http://www.dallascitytroop.org/qm_files/iba.jpg

amy31416
08-14-2014, 08:07 PM
That is why the military Individual Body Armor come with the "nut flap".

I learn so much from you fellas.

Pericles
08-14-2014, 08:12 PM
I learn so much from you fellas.

I'm just trying to be helpful.

James Madison
08-14-2014, 10:01 PM
there is a murderer whose name has not been made available yet. so many good cops protecting him.

Probably so some dipshit doesn't tweet out the wrong address like what happened in Florida.

pcosmar
08-14-2014, 10:04 PM
Probably so some dipshit doesn't tweet out the wrong address like what happened in Florida.

Then they should identify him,,to prevent any mistake.

James Madison
08-14-2014, 10:06 PM
Then they should identify him,,to prevent any mistake.

They did that with George Zimmerman. Spike Lee tweeted the wrong address anyway.

Mani
08-14-2014, 10:30 PM
This link actually was posted on FEDBOOK! This story has reached fedbook, and non-informed people are talking about it.

Last night I saw a link on fedbook and the caption was something like, "Hey Ferguson PD, the constitution isn't a checklist of rights to be violated!"

I think many people are for the first time hearing the phrase, "Militarized police force."


http://jezebel.com/ferguson-disgrace-police-fire-on-unarmed-crowds-attac-1621352164?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_faceboo k&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

DamianTV
08-14-2014, 11:05 PM
This link actually was posted on FEDBOOK! This story has reached fedbook, and non-informed people are talking about it.

Last night I saw a link on fedbook and the caption was something like, "Hey Ferguson PD, the constitution isn't a checklist of rights to be violated!"

I think many people are for the first time hearing the phrase, "Militarized police force."


http://jezebel.com/ferguson-disgrace-police-fire-on-unarmed-crowds-attac-1621352164?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_faceboo k&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Then dont stop. Dont you dare. Most want nothing more than to go back to sleep. Keep them awake and scare the fuck out of them because they should be scared out of their minds as to what theyve allowed to come to pass by refusing to pay attention. Some day, very soon, those same Militarized Police are going to be in EVERY house in this once great nation. And they are NOT there for your protection, in fact, quite the opposite.

Anti Federalist
08-15-2014, 12:48 AM
Then dont stop. Dont you dare. Most want nothing more than to go back to sleep. Keep them awake and scare the fuck out of them because they should be scared out of their minds as to what theyve allowed to come to pass by refusing to pay attention. Some day, very soon, those same Militarized Police are going to be in EVERY house in this once great nation. And they are NOT there for your protection, in fact, quite the opposite.

This.

Push ten times as hard, now.

SeanTX
08-15-2014, 04:46 PM
This topic was just discussed on the NBC Nightly News. I'm sure nothing will come of it, we don't have any legislators with the backbone to do anything, but it's interesting that the idea is making it into the mainstream .

They discussed how violent crime is supposedly down 53% since 1990, yet the police are becoming more and more militarized and aggressive. And a cop interviewed had to trot out the tired old line "we need to have whatever equipment we need so we can to get home safely to our families."

enhanced_deficit
08-15-2014, 05:16 PM
Could this be result of Karma? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?444261-Is-the-ongoing-Surge-of-Police-State-in-America-a-Surge-of-Karma&)

Pericles
08-15-2014, 05:31 PM
This topic was just discussed on the NBC Nightly News. I'm sure nothing will come of it, we don't have any legislators with the backbone to do anything, but it's interesting that the idea is making it into the mainstream .

They discussed how violent crime is supposedly down 53% since 1990, yet the police are becoming more and more militarized and aggressive. And a cop interviewed had to trot out the tired old line "we need to have whatever equipment we need so we can to get home safely to our families."

And the irony there is that if the cop want to make it home safe, the way to do that is not to push people who will not submit to tyranny over the edge.