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presence
08-08-2014, 07:59 PM
http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=22


Senator Rand Paul Offers Maiden Speech in Senate Kentucky’s newly elected Senator gives first floor speech Feb 2, 2011
WASHINGTON, D.C. - Senator Rand Paul (Ky.) today gave his maiden speech on the Senate floor. Below is the video and a transcript of that speech:


CLICK HERE TO WATCH SENATOR RAND PAUL'S MAIDEN SPEECH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE_fD-_rzJ8)

[ I ask that you skip this for now and read the transcript - presence ]




TRANSCRIPT:

I am honored by the privilege of serving in the United States Senate. I am honored and humbled by the responsibility of defending our Constitution and our individual freedoms.

I will sit at Henry Clay's desk. There is likely no legislator from Kentucky more famous than Henry Clay. He served as both the Speaker of the House and Leader of the Senate. He ran for President four times and nearly bested James Polk.


Henry Clay was called the Great Compromiser. During orientation, one of my new colleagues asked me with a touch of irony and a twinkle in his eye, "Will you be a great compromiser?"


I've thought long and hard about that question. Is compromise the noble position? Will compromise allow us to avoid the looming debt crisis?


Henry Clay's life story is, at best, a mixed message. Henry Clay's great compromise was over slavery. One could argue that he rose above sectional strife to carve out compromise after compromise trying to ward off civil war.


Or one could argue that his compromises were morally wrong and may have even encouraged war, that his compromises meant the acceptance during his 50 years of public life of not only slavery, but the slave trade itself.


In the name of compromise, Clay was by most accounts not a cruel master, but a master nonetheless of 48 slaves. He supported the fugitive slave law until his death. He compromised on the extension of slavery into new states. He was the deciding vote in the House to extend slavery into Arkansas.


Before we eulogize Henry Clay we should acknowledge and appreciate the contrast with contemporaries who refused to compromise.


William Lloyd Garrison toiled at a small abolitionist press for thirty years refusing to compromise with Clay's desire to ship the slaves back to Africa. Garrison was beaten and imprisoned for his principled stand.


Frederick Douglass traveled the country as a free black man at great personal risk - he was beaten, he was thrown from trains - but was ultimately the living, breathing example of the intellect and leadership that a former slave could provide.


Cassius Clay was a cousin of Henry Clay and an abolitionist.


In the Heidler's biography of Henry Clay they describe Cassius as follows: "a venomous pen was his first weapon of choice, a bowie knife his second, and because he was so effective with the one, he found it wise to have the other handy."


Cassius parted ways with Henry Clay when Cassius released a private letter that Henry had written to him that seemed supportive of abolition. Henry disavowed the antislavery letter he had written to Cassius and they never spoke again.


Cassius Clay was an unapologetic abolitionists who called out the slave traders. One night in Foxtown, he was ambushed by the proslavery family of Squire Turner. They came at him with cudgels and knives, stabbing him from behind. Tom Turner put a pistol to Cassius Clay's head and pulled the trigger three times and it misfired three times. Cassius pulled his Bowie knife and rammed it into the belly of the Turner boy, killing him.


Cassius Clay refused to compromise.


Cassius Clay was a hero but he was permanently estranged from Henry Clay. Henry Clay made no room for the true believers, for the abolitionists.
Who are our heroes? Are we fascinated and enthralled by the Great Compromiser or his cousin Cassius Clay?


Henry Clay came within 38,000 votes out of over 2 million votes of being President. He lost the New York delegation barely because an abolitionist third party, the Liberty Party, refused to support him because of his muddled support of slavery. One could argue that Clay's compromises on slavery cost him the presidency.


Those activist who didn't compromise - Garrison, Wendell Phillips, Frederick Douglass, and Cassius Clay - are heroes because they said slavery was wrong and they would not compromise.


Today we have no issues that approach moral equivalency with the issue of slavery. [Sometimes Rand, you grossly underestimate the importance of the issue of liberty to our hearts. -presence] Yet we do face a fiscal nightmare and potentially a debt crisis.


Is the answer to compromise?


Should we compromise by raising taxes and cutting spending as the Debt Commission proposes?


Is that the compromise that will save us from financial ruin?


Several facts argue against such a compromise. Government now spends more money than ever before. Raising taxes seems to only encourage more spending.

Government now spends one in four GDP dollars. Twenty-five percent of our nation's economy is government spending. Any compromise must shrink the government sector and grow the private sector.


Any compromise should be about where we cut federal spending, not where we raise taxes.


The problem we face is not a revenue problem. It is a spending problem. It is spending that is now swollen to nearly a fourth of our economy.


The deficit is nearly $2 trillion annually.


Entitlements and interest will consume the entire budget within a decade, leaving no room for any other spending: nothing for Defense, nothing for infrastructure. No other spending will be possible without adding massively to the debt.


Will the Tea Party compromise? Can the Tea Party work with others to find a solution?


The answer is of course there must be dialogue and compromise but compromise must occur on where we cut spending and by how much.


Even across the aisle, we now have much agreement. Both sides seem to agree that raising taxes in a recession is a disaster.


The compromise must be conservatives acknowledging that we can cut military spending and liberals acknowledging that we can cut domestic spending. Freezing domestic spending at 2010 levels does not significantly delay the coming debt crisis and is at best a diversion from the real budgetary cuts that are necessary.


There is a certain inevitability to this debate as the debt bomb looms and grows perilously large.


As long as I sit at Henry Clay's desk, I will remember his lifelong desire to forge agreement, BUT I will also keep close to my heart the principled stand of his cousin, Cassius Clay, who refused to forsake the life of any human simply to find agreement.




Do watch this clip:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=__EsuJlqdbg



Two three--letter words: "but" and "and." In grammatical terms, they are called conjunctions. They bridge two clauses of a single sentence together. In communication (and negotiation), these words are subtle manipulators of exclusion or inclusion. Generally speaking, "but" excludes, denies, discounts or in some way rejects the previous clause. For example, the statement "she is a very productive employee but she can be a bit demanding" is subtly different than "she is a very productive employee and she can be a bit demanding." In the first example, the "but" tends to convey a negation of the first clause of the sentence in favor of the second clause of the sentence. In the next example, the "and" tends to convey an inclusion of the first clause along with the second clause.http://EzineArticles.com/441222


Rand, by all means, seek for forge agreement, but always remember that we in the Liberty Movement hold you the CASSIUS STANDARD on every liberty issue; domestic and foreign.

-presence

Christian Liberty
08-08-2014, 08:07 PM
Good stuff all the way around.

I disagree strongly with Rand's assertion that there's no issue today that parallels the importance of slavery. Abortion is a clearly similar example in my book. And we still have slavery in this country, we just call it "selective service". And even arguably "taxation" (Its a stretch but you still work for the government for a sizable chunk of the year.)

The more of this kind of stuff I hear from Rand, the more fascinated I am by the man. He's someone I'd really love to have a personal conversation with. Rand probably understands my philosophy at least as well as I do, so I'd be curious to see his reasons for rejecting it (whether he really believes them or not.) The more I hear from him, the more I wonder what's really going on in his head every time he says something or votes for something that isn't pro-liberty. Is it a compromise to him? Does he feel good about it, or does it make him sick but he does it anyway because he has some kind of end-game plan? Before I read some of this stuff I kind of just dismissed it and assumed that what you see is what you get, but now I'm really curious, what does Rand Paul really believe?

Crashland
08-08-2014, 08:18 PM
Good stuff all the way around.

I disagree strongly with Rand's assertion that there's no issue today that parallels the importance of slavery. Abortion is a clearly similar example in my book. And we still have slavery in this country, we just call it "selective service". And even arguably "taxation" (Its a stretch but you still work for the government for a sizable chunk of the year.)

The more of this kind of stuff I hear from Rand, the more fascinated I am by the man. He's someone I'd really love to have a personal conversation with. Rand probably understands my philosophy at least as well as I do, so I'd be curious to see his reasons for rejecting it (whether he really believes them or not.) The more I hear from him, the more I wonder what's really going on in his head every time he says something or votes for something that isn't pro-liberty. Is it a compromise to him? Does he feel good about it, or does it make him sick but he does it anyway because he has some kind of end-game plan? Before I read some of this stuff I kind of just dismissed it and assumed that what you see is what you get, but now I'm really curious, what does Rand Paul really believe?

It's probably not a good idea to grant moral equivalency between slavery and the selective service. Would you rather have you and your whole family live in slavery your whole lives, or instead have your whole family live in freedom with the exception of you possibly being required to serve in the military for a time?

Christian Liberty
08-08-2014, 09:21 PM
It's probably not a good idea to grant moral equivalency between slavery and the selective service. Would you rather have you and your whole family live in slavery your whole lives, or instead have your whole family live in freedom with the exception of you possibly being required to serve in the military for a time?

Its still morally equivalent, its another form of slavery just for a shorter time.

Me "serving" in the military is an impossibility. I would rather go to jail.

Christian Liberty
08-08-2014, 09:22 PM
And yes, I would rather go to jail than have my whole family enslaved.

Crashland
08-08-2014, 09:35 PM
And yes, I would rather go to jail than have my whole family enslaved.

That's the point though. Not all forms of slavery are morally equivalent because there is a difference in how much damage they do. Anyone would rather accept the possibility of being randomly selected to be forced to choose between serving in the military or going to jail, than to have their entire race unconditionally enslaved permanently and often subject to whipping, rape, and execution. The two things aren't even on the same playing field. It might be the same philosophical concept, but they are not morally equivalent.

Christian Liberty
08-08-2014, 09:59 PM
That's the point though. Not all forms of slavery are morally equivalent because there is a difference in how much damage they do. Anyone would rather accept the possibility of being randomly selected to be forced to choose between serving in the military or going to jail, than to have their entire race unconditionally enslaved permanently and often subject to whipping, rape, and execution. The two things aren't even on the same playing field. It might be the same philosophical concept, but they are not morally equivalent.

First of all, it wasn't "their entire race." THere were free blacks. Obviously that doesn't make it anywhere near OK, but you said their entire race was enslaved, which was false.

Second of all, I seriously doubt all slaves were subjected to whipping, rape, and execution. Some were, sure, but not all. Some (most?) masters treated their slaves fairly well. Which again, isn't anywhere near a justification of it, but we're comparing the relative wrong of different things, so it matters.

Conceptually its the same. Yes, one is preferable to the other, but its still slavery, and its still a SERIOUS moral wrong. Enough so that those who take the wrong position on it really do deserve to be shunned, and probably should not be associated with by civilized people. I haven't done this in my own life yet because there aren't enough people who see it the same way, but morally its repulsive. Either way.

twomp
08-08-2014, 11:06 PM
Here's what our old buddy Mitch McConnell had to say about Henry Clay:




At a Republican breakfast, Sen. Mitch McConnell commented on Sen. Rand Paul's presidential ambitions by saying this: "I can say this without fear of contradiction: He is the most credible candidate for president of the United States since Henry Clay."

Christian Liberty
08-09-2014, 07:35 AM
Here's what our old buddy Mitch McConnell had to say about Henry Clay:

Clay didn't win:p

presence
08-09-2014, 08:10 AM
Anyone would rather accept the possibility of being randomly selected to be forced to choose between serving in the military or going to jail, than to have their entire race unconditionally enslaved permanently and often subject to whipping, rape, and execution. The two things aren't even on the same playing field.

I do have to wonder if you took it side by side... and had real data... what is the per capita whoopin', rapin', and summary exectution rate for blacks now vs the times of slavery.

Call me a kooky, but suspect relatively par.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics_of_incarcerated_African-American_males
http://newsone.com/2023676/police-brutality-against-blacks/
http://www.vawnet.org/research/print-document.php?doc_id=578&find_type=web_desc_AR
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/1-black-man-killed-every-28-hours-police-or-vigilantes-america-perpetually-war-its
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2013/06/murder_rate_in_prison_is_it_safer_to_be_jailed_tha n_free.html
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/tsr/too-important-to-fail/dropping-out-imprisoned-or-killed-disparities-in-outcomes-faced-by-young-african-american-men/

LibForestPaul
08-09-2014, 09:11 AM
Good stuff all the way around.

I disagree strongly with Rand's assertion that there's no issue today that parallels the importance of slavery. Abortion is a clearly similar example in my book. And we still have slavery in this country, we just call it "selective service". And even arguably "taxation" (Its a stretch but you still work for the government for a sizable chunk of the year.)

The more of this kind of stuff I hear from Rand, the more fascinated I am by the man. He's someone I'd really love to have a personal conversation with. Rand probably understands my philosophy at least as well as I do, so I'd be curious to see his reasons for rejecting it (whether he really believes them or not.) The more I hear from him, the more I wonder what's really going on in his head every time he says something or votes for something that isn't pro-liberty. Is it a compromise to him? Does he feel good about it, or does it make him sick but he does it anyway because he has some kind of end-game plan? Before I read some of this stuff I kind of just dismissed it and assumed that what you see is what you get, but now I'm really curious, what does Rand Paul really believe?

Actually, he speaks more like Henry Clay. He may wish otherwise; but he is no Cassius Clay.