Oppose Common Core? Union prez wants to punch you in the face.

[Anti Federalist]

Union president's aggressive rant on Common Core

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26236806/union-presidents-aggressive-rant-on-common-core

Michael Mulgrew, the president of the United Federation of Teachers, represents all 75,000 public school teachers in New York City. He made some pretty aggressive threats saying, he would punch people in the face and push them in the dirt if they were against Common Core.

"If someone takes something from me, I'm going to grab it right back out of their cold, twisted, sick hands and say it is mine," he said.

The strong words were delivered at the American Federation of Teachers conference in Los Angeles.

The national teachers union has supported Common Core, but some have been disappointed in the roll-out.

"And I'm going to punch you in the face and push you in the dirt because this is the teacher," he said. "These are our tools and you sick people need to deal with us and the children that we teach."

We showed the video to two moms who have children in New York City public schools.

Charles Sahm runs the education initiative at the Manhattan Institute. He said Mulgrew is known to speak passionately when it comes to Common Core.

"He's a tough old school union negotiator. He's from Staten Island, born and bred New York," Sahm said. "New Yorkers do have a temper sometimes but when you're speaking at a national conference representing your union, I think you have to be a little more measured."

Sahm agrees with the substance of Mulgrew's message but said it could have been delivered differently.

"There is an issue that Michael Mulgrew and the AFT raised in this conference that is a legitimate issue: there needs to be more input from teachers... more training for teachers in implementing the Common Core," he said. "And that's happening here in New York City."

We asked the UFT to elaborate on Mulgrew's comments, but we haven't heard back.

New York has been one of the first states to roll out Common Core. Students took practice exams last spring and their grades should be available any day.

[Christian Liberty]

I hope he tries it in a civilized part of the country where the 2nd amendment is actually a thing, and where self-defense is not a crime.

The feelings mutual, BTW. I'd like to punch this baffoon in the face. But, being a voluntarist, I would wait for him to punch me first.

[dillo]

I hope he tries it in a civilized part of the country where the 2nd amendment is actually a thing, and where self-defense is not a crime.

The feelings mutual, BTW. I'd like to punch this baffoon in the face. But, being a voluntarist, I would wait for him to punch me first.

Where is this location you speak of?

[Christian Liberty]

Where is this location you speak of?

Good point. There are 2nd amendment restrictions everywhere, unfortunately. But there are less restrictions in some places than others, and almost everywhere but NYC has less restrictions than NYC.

On the other hand, if you were talking about the right to self-defense by virtue of the fact that its illegal to defend yourself against cops, well, yeah, worship of badges exists pretty much everywhere.

[tod evans]

He's more than welcome to pack his socialist/yankee ass up and carry it down to the Ozarks...

Our little ol' hillbilly women would mop the floor with his big mouth.

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Here's that fine specimen of city-boy;

http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/credit-amandacohen_mulgrew5.jpg

[invisible]

I'd like to extend an invitation to this gentleman to come and visit Oklahoma. He'll have no problem finding plenty of people to punch. Unfortunately for him, probably something like 99.9% of them are gun owners.

[Origanalist]

He's more than welcome to pack his socialist/yankee ass up and carry it down to the Ozarks...

Our little ol' hillbilly women would mop the floor with his big mouth.

[edit]

Here's that fine specimen of city-boy;


You beat me to it, he can bring his fat ass up to my neck of the woods and give it his best shot. ;)

[presence]

Here's that fine specimen of city-boy;

Call me a chauvinist, but I cannot take a man seriously no matter what he says when he's wearing a pussy-pink striped tie.

[moostraks]

I find it interesting he would be representing a union for people who push an anti-bullying campaign and uses a classic visual for a sandbox bully. Btw those opposing the common core tools of destruction are by and large parents of the same said children in question, as well as taxpayers, paying these tax ticks. Should be that he needs to listen to those who both serve up their children for educating and pay the wages. May they all withdraw their children to homeschool or private educational institutions and starve the beast...

[Suzanimal]

Here's the video if anyone cares to watch. The the moderator smiling and the applause from the audience is pretty sickening. His bit is at the beginning.

I wish someone in his area would would oppose Common Core to his face and call him out on his threats.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToNEs-C9HCU

[moostraks]

Here's the video if anyone cares to watch. The the moderator smiling and the applause from the audience is pretty sickening. His bit is at the beginning.

I wish someone in his area would would oppose Common Core to his face and call him out on his threats.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToNEs-C9HCU

I believe they will as the heated rhetoric seems to be in response to the pressure they are getting against common core. A cursory web search turned up this: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/04/11/more-than-2-dozen-nyc-schools-expected-to-rally-against-common-core-exams/

And this:http://www.stopccssinnys.com there seem to be a few anti-common core groups up there :)

[DamianTV]

He would also be opposed to anyone that doesnt want their kids receiving a public education. IE, he will 'punch you in the face' if youre a Homeschooler, Think for Yourself, actually teach your kids something worth while, and do anything that opposes the Status Quo Indoctrination and Dumbing Down of America. He basically just said in so many words he is an absolute threat to Freedom.

[nobody's_hero]

I find it interesting he would be representing a union for people who push an anti-bullying campaign and uses a classic visual for a sandbox bully. Btw those opposing the common core tools of destruction are by and large parents of the same said children in question, as well as taxpayers, paying these tax ticks. Should be that he needs to listen to those who both serve up their children for educating and pay the wages. May they all withdraw their children to homeschool or private educational institutions and starve the beast...

Unfortunately, you still have to pay for all that public shit even if you homeschool your kids. It would be great if you could opt out of millage rates if you homeschool or private school your kids. But there's no opting out because that would be too much freedom. As it stands now, with compulsory taxes funding public education, this beast isn't hurt in the least bit if you take your kids out of public school. What hurts is that you'll be paying for whatever alternative education you choose while also being taxed to pay for something you never plan on using.

I don't even have kids and I have to pay for other people's little brats' education. Someone keeps feeding me bullshit about it being my civic duty or something. I really don't care if someone else's kids would rather eat books than read them. But that makes me a heartless, selfish bastard (maybe I am, but they made me this way) according to liberals like this union guy.

[tod evans]

Opting out;

http://www.harmonize.com/culpeper/Minutemen%20in%20Action%20Min_men05_000.jpg

[Christian Liberty]

Unfortunately, you still have to pay for all that public shit even if you homeschool your kids. It would be great if you could opt out of millage rates if you homeschool or private school your kids. But there's no opting out because that would be too much freedom. As it stands now, with compulsory taxes funding public education, this beast isn't hurt in the least bit if you take your kids out of public school. What hurts is that you'll be paying for whatever alternative education you choose while also being taxed to pay for something you never plan on using.

I don't even have kids and I have to pay for other people's little brats' education. Someone keeps feeding me bullshit about it being my civic duty or something. I really don't care if someone else's kids would rather eat books than read them. But that makes me a heartless, selfish bastard (maybe I am, but they made me this way) according to liberals like this union guy.

I disagree with you. I don't think the point is the money. The point is the control. So, pulling kids out of public school takes away the control of your children's minds. That's more important than money.

There are some people, especially at high school level, that are smart enough that their teachers cannot manipulate them. I am one of those. And I grew more libertarian during the two years I was in public school, not less. BUt that's not the norm.

[Lucille]

"These are our tools and you sick people need to deal with us and the children that we teach."

"You sick people" meaning the parents of the children that they "teach?"

http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/melissa-harris-perry-children-belong-to-us-600x345-450x258.jpg

[acptulsa]

Nice to see the United Federation of Teachers doing its part to raise the level of rational discourse in this nation.

In a society where so many have the terrible misconception that anyone associated with a union is a thick-necked, opinionated, power-crazed, inarticulate, mafioso thug who'd rather fight than be reasonable, it's nice to know that you can at least count on the teachers union serving the nation's self-styled bastion city of culture to disprove the stereotype.

And, no, I didn't learn to piece together a compound sentence of that magnitude in any kind of common core curriculum.

[DamianTV]

Unions are just like Guns, they can be used for Good or Evil.

Its not any different than Employer vs Employee Rights. There needs to be a balance between the two created and maintained by a Free Market. So it is an abuse by Unions, which is not impossible. But this is really more directed at Consumers. Consumerism of Public Schools. They will offer people a very shitty product that they are forced to accept. Kind of like Car Insurance. You get punished when / if you have to use the service you are paying for. Public Schools destroy the minds of our children. As with any shitty product, if you find out that the product or service is shit, you stop going there. But this is being rammed down the peoples throats as it becomes more and more difficult for people to say "your product and service are shit and I refuse to do business with you" when you have a Govt that pretty much points a Gun at your head if we dont allow our children to be Indoctrinated.

We know our schools suck. The service has become shit. When we look at why and how theyve become shit, we can pretty easily conclude there are a lot of problems, and Regulations are not helping. The heavy handed regulations imposed by the Dept of Education are a large contributing factor when teachers who understand how to communicate an idea and actually teach children are flat out prevented from doing so by the current imposed regulations. Thus, the Dept of Education will validate its own existence by claiming the solution to regulations causing too many problems is more regulations! OMG a Flood! Quick, pour MORE WATER on the Flood! That will stop the Flood!

But this goes a step further. If your neighbor was teaching their child something, in some way that didnt involve you at all, you wouldnt care. Your neighbor also wont care about how or what you teach your kid, or how or what I teach my kids. This is also claiming OWNERSHIP of all of our children. You wouldnt let me force you to teach your kid something you dont want them to learn, as well as is your Right to do so despite that Right not being enumerated. But when Govt comes along and says YOU WILL give us your Children, that is somehow different? Its not.

The US is dead last in education and too many people are unable to understand why. Probably something to do with too many people receiving a public education. Our higher education is excessively overpriced and undervalued. People are paying out the ass to learn things that were once taught in Public Schools. This is the Business Model of the US, extortion. Those who stand to benefit from providing as shitty of a service as possible will continue to do nothing but make that shitty service as shitty and expensive as possible. It is both Informational and Financial Enslavement.

I really wish I could say the reason the US is dead last in Education is because of this guy and people like him, however, I cant say that because it simply is not true. The fault lies on the numerous parents who see nothing wrong with the way things are: Boobus. Boobus thinks Common Core is just fine and there is nothing to see so they do move along. They continue to send their kids to these Public Indoctrination Centres with the expectation that they will learn more than they did themselves while they were Indoctrinated. Boobus will not speak up when courses like Math or Reading are cut entirely. Boobus hides behind their own ignorance, and when push comes to shove, they choose to sit down. The powers that be will take what ever they can get their hands on. Boobus will simply let this happen. Boobus is so stupid that if our Govt were to come out and declare the End of Private Property, they would probably willingly hand over everything they own gladly. Boobus believes all the lies they hear and makes no effort to find the truth in anything. Boobus does not think they have to be a part of the solution. Boobus believes someone else will come along and save them. Boobus believes those who claim to have Boobus' best interests in mind are doing these unspeakable actions in the best interest of Boobus. Boobus is just as responsible for contributing to the nightmare of an education system we have today as this Union President who wants to enforce Indoctrination by Physical Tyranny of 'punching non believers in the face'.

Boobus damn near deserves what it has demanded by its collective lack of action.

[moostraks]

Unfortunately, you still have to pay for all that public shit even if you homeschool your kids. It would be great if you could opt out of millage rates if you homeschool or private school your kids. But there's no opting out because that would be too much freedom. As it stands now, with compulsory taxes funding public education, this beast isn't hurt in the least bit if you take your kids out of public school. What hurts is that you'll be paying for whatever alternative education you choose while also being taxed to pay for something you never plan on using.

I don't even have kids and I have to pay for other people's little brats' education. Someone keeps feeding me bullshit about it being my civic duty or something. I really don't care if someone else's kids would rather eat books than read them. But that makes me a heartless, selfish bastard (maybe I am, but they made me this way) according to liberals like this union guy.

A good bit of the money those schools get is determined by head count. So by pulling children out you are shrinking their funding. It also decreases the number of teachers needed. Trust me, I understand all about the tax issue as we "own" our home excepting tax debt each year AND we homeschool. No nifty tax breaks for us as educators like these whiners get. They go after homeschoolers because of the head count funding. It is one of the reasons they try to make home education so difficult to discourage those who want to break free from their stranglehold on educational choices.