Woman Arrested, Charged w/ Felony Child Neglect for Allowing Her Son To Walk To Park Alone

[SeanTX]

http://www.inquisitr.com/1381026/nicole-gainey-arrested/


Nicole Gainey was arrested and charged with neglect — because she let her 7-year-old son walk to the park alone. The Florida mom believes her son is old enough to walk down the street unsupervised. However, officials with the Port St. Lucie Police Department disagree.

On Saturday afternoon, Dominic Gainey asked his mother for permission to walk to the park. Nicole agreed, as her son is mature for his age and carries a cell phone in case of an emergency. Nicole said she did not think she “was doing anything wrong.” She was simply “letting him go play” with his friends.

On his way to the park, Dominic was stopped and questioned by an unidentified group of people. As he is not supposed to talk to strangers, Dominic said he “got scared” and “ran off to the park.” Shortly after he arrived, he was approached by several police officers.

When questioned by police, Dominic admitted he had walked to the park alone. The officers took the boy home and proceeded to interrogate his mother. Nicole Gainey was later arrested and charged with felony child neglect. She was eventually released on $4000 bond.

In their report, the officers noted that Dominic was not safe as “numerous sex offenders reside in the vicinity.” Nicole explained that Sportsman Park is approximately 10 minutes away from her home, and her son has never been harassed or assaulted.

Nicole Gainey is unsure who reported the situation to police, but she suspects the group who tried to stop and question her son. As reported by 10 News, she plans to fight the criminal charge. However, in the meantime, she will not be allowing Dominic to walk to the park alone.

The St. Lucie County State’s Attorney’s office confirmed that there are no laws preventing children from walking to the park unsupervised. Instead, neglect charges are often filed at the police officer’s discretion on “a case-by-case basis.”

The arresting officers contend they were simply concerned for Dominic’s safety. Nicole said the arresting officers underlined the fact that Sportsman Park is not safe due to pedophiles.

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[DamianTV]

Our parents would ALL be in prison for years for the shit they let any of us do by todays standards.

Personally I think the lady that called the cops in the first place should have been arrested for Nuisance Call. But noooooooo, we are expected to "fear the boogeymen" that validate the existence of cops to begin with.

[moostraks]

No laws were broken. This was based upon police discretion. Why, yes, because the police clearly are better at decision making then the general public and allowed to impose arbitrary standards which result in neglect charges against a parent when no laws were broken. /sarc

Maybe instead of preventing the public from using the park they could focus their awesome detective skills on the pedos they claim they were making it unsafe? Nah, better to ruin the family by giving the parent a neglect charge since they are too incompetent to remove the pervs.

[SeanTX]

Meanwhile, mothers in Central America are encouraged to send their kids on a long voyage here, unaccompanied. And many of those will be sent to live with strangers. Something that is far more dangerous than a kid walking to the park.

And the police are basically admitting that they are worthless by saying that the park isn't safe because of "pedophiles."

[Anti Federalist]

The arresting officers contend they were simply concerned for Dominic’s safety.

Nothing will assure his safety more, than throwing his mom in prison and little Dom in foster care.

LOL @ the "I'm not doing anything wrong" crowd.


When questioned by police, Dominic admitted he had walked to the park alone. The officers took the boy home and proceeded to interrogate his mother. Nicole Gainey was later arrested and charged with felony child neglect. She was eventually released on $4000 bond.

Do not talk to cops.

[FindLiberty]

...Personally I think the lady that called the cops in the first place should have been arrested for Nuisance Call...

Yea, but that 7 year old (2nd grader?) had a cell phone too. Think of the possibilities if he had called 911 first!. (yes I know, never call...)

This might have played out differently if the boy immediately dialed 911 (you can imagine the kid's 911 call audio describing location, description of the woman or group, (color, year, maker, license of their cars?) and how frightened he was, "please hurry!") as some stranger(s) first stopped him and first began to question him without first showing any official state or federal ID/authority to detain him...

She/they might have ended up dead or in the hospital on life support today (from police gun fire) and the 7 year old kid recognized as a hero (slightly grazed in the hail of bullets that erupted before swat could arrive). We'd be seeing studio and on-the-street news interviews of his proud mom on TV instead of getting a classic news "perp-walk" camera shot of her (with no audio) as she is lead off in chains.

Ordered her arrest? Maybe the town needs a new police chief after this story is completely done spinning its self out.

[Christian Liberty]

This thread explains why cops are scumbags.

This thread also explains why pedophiles should be executed.

But of course, our government is too busy chasing heroes like Snowden and fighting to keep pot illegal. Way to go guys...:rolleyes:

[Brian4Liberty]

This thread explains why cops are scumbags.

This thread also explains why pedophiles should be executed.


Because we can trust the cops and prosecutors to make sure that the pedophiles are properly identified and charged. No doubt the very first execution would be an 18 year old who had a 17 year old girlfriend.

[Brian4Liberty]

A forum visibility question:

Did anyone reading this thread miss the following thread?:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?456704-No-Child-Left-Outside

[Christian Liberty]

Because we can trust the cops and prosecutors to make sure that the pedophiles are properly identified and charged. No doubt the very first execution would be an 18 year old who had a 17 year old girlfriend.

Good point. When I think "pedophile" I'm thinking a pre-teen victim and an older man forcing himself upon that victim (I don't know how old "older" would be, but at least a legal adult.) If I raped a 12 year old, as a 19 year old, I absolutely think I would deserve the death penalty. Or anyone for that matter, but especially a kid.

I'm thinking in terms of how an actually somewhat useful and just government (I know some ancaps are going to jump on me for even allowing that possibility, hence the use of the word "somewhat"... yes I agree that a completely free market system would be best) might deal with this situation. The sensible policy would be not to let pedophiles walk free and to leave parents who send their kids to the park alone. And this government does the opposite.

But yeah, I'm with you with regards to the status quo. I don't trust cops or prosecutors and think both groups are filled with scumbags. In part due to things like this very thread. So yeah, what I'm basically saying is "if the government were somewhat useful and just, it would actually make sure pedophiles aren't free and leave moms who send their kids to the park alone." I understand that, government being filled with the scumbags that it is, that they would probably target the 18 year old guy who has 17 year old girlfriend. That guy isn't a pedophile.

[Christian Liberty]

A forum visibility question:

Did anyone reading this thread miss the following thread?:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?456704-No-Child-Left-Outside

Yeah, I missed it.

I usually view threads by clicking on the "new posts" button whenever I happen to be on. I usually, though not always, just look at the first page.

[Peach]

Pedophilia is a disorder. A man or women age 16 or above that is attracted to pre-pubertal kids under the age of 13 is a pedophile. A pedophile is not necessarily a child molestor, child porn user or a child rapist.

[Christian Liberty]

Pedophilia is a disorder. A man or women age 16 or above that is attracted to pre-pubertal kids under the age of 13 is a pedophile. A pedophile is not necessarily a child molestor, child porn user or a child rapist.

Would the government actually know the people in question are pedophiles if they hadn't committed a crime though?

I was talking about putting actual child rapists/molesters to death, not child porn users (though I have no problem putting a bullet in the brain of anyone who produces it) or people who have a disorder that they don't act on.

[Peach]

Would the government actually know the people in question are pedophiles if they hadn't committed a crime though? Most pedophiles keep their pedophilia as a secret, so the government would have no idea.


I was talking about putting actual child rapists/molesters to death, not child porn users (though I have no problem putting a bullet in the brain of anyone who produces it) or people who have a disorder that they don't act on. The difference between child rape and molestation is huge. I don't mind child rapist being sentenced to death in the court of law but when it comes to molestors I disagree with the death penalty.

[Christian Liberty]

Most pedophiles keep their pedophilia as a secret, so the government would have no idea.

Perhaps they are lying here?




The difference between child rape and molestation is huge. I don't mind child rapist being sentenced to death in the court of law but when it comes to molestors I disagree with the death penalty.

The way I see it, if you do ANYTHING sexual to a child you are a monster who shouldn't be given the opportunity to threaten a child's life again. Whether that means killing them, locking them up, or sticking them all on an island by themselves, i don't care. But there is absolutely no way such a person should have the potential to reoffend. Just don't do it.

[Peach]

Perhaps they are lying here? I don't understand what you are saying here.


The way I see it, if you do ANYTHING sexual to a child you are a monster who shouldn't be given the opportunity to threaten a child's life again. Whether that means killing them, locking them up, or sticking them all on an island by themselves, i don't care. But there is absolutely no way such a person should have the potential to reoffend. Just don't do it. Anything sexual does not threaten a childs life. I do not defend child molestation, but it does not threaten a childs life. Hurts it? Yes. But not even close to the point of it being extremely life altering like child rape.

[Christian Liberty]

I don't understand what you are saying here.

Sorry. The government is claiming (see OP) that there were lots of pedophiles in the area. Thus, they are claiming the ability to know who at least some pedophiles are. Maybe they are lying.




Anything sexual does not threaten a childs life. I do not defend child molestation, but it does not threaten a childs life. Hurts it? Yes. But not even close to the point of it being extremely life altering like child rape.

I know you aren't defending it. I'm not really sympathetic to people who do that AT ALL though. I know every regulation and its mother is defended in the name of "protecting the children", and the OP shows us a good example of that. But, I think if you do anything sexual to a child you are a sick mind and should never be given the opportunity to do that again.

[Peach]

Sorry. The government is claiming (see OP) that there were lots of pedophiles in the area. Thus, they are claiming the ability to know who at least some pedophiles are. Maybe they are lying. Because between 90-95% percent of people arrested because of molesting or raping a child have not been convicted of any sex offense before their arrest, the government only knows of a very small minority of the pedophiles who sexually abuse kids.


I know you aren't defending it. I'm not really sympathetic to people who do that AT ALL though. I know every regulation and its mother is defended in the name of "protecting the children", and the OP shows us a good example of that. But, I think if you do anything sexual to a child you are a sick mind and should never be given the opportunity to do that again. I do feel sympathy for child molestors despite their evil acts. I think off it as having lost control over a disorder that they were unfortunate to have.

[Christian Liberty]

Because between 90-95% percent of people arrested because of molesting or raping a child have not been convicted of any sex offense, the government only knows of a very small minority of the pedophiles who sexually abuse kids.

Yeah, I hear you. There's always a risk, and that risk doesn't justify paranoia. But once it does actually happen (assuming proof beyond any reasonable doubt obviously: I get that there are going to be times where there is little to no proof and the criminal is going to get away with it. As should be done in cases without sufficient proof) measures should be taken to make sure the crook can't do it again. Ever letting them "back into society", even after 20 years behind bars, just seems like asking for problems, IMO.

And for the record, I'm typically not "tough on crime" either, and I typically support restitution as punishment. Were we talking about a thief, I would support requiring restitution to be paid and no prison time. But I see a huge difference between stealing something and destroying the sexual innocence of a child.




I do feel sympathy for child molestors despite their evil acts. I think off it as having lost control over a disorder that they were unfortunate to have.

I guess I just don't.

[Peach]

Yeah, I hear you. There's always a risk, and that risk doesn't justify paranoia. But once it does actually happen (assuming proof beyond any reasonable doubt obviously: I get that there are going to be times where there is little to no proof and the criminal is going to get away with it. As should be done in cases without sufficient proof) measures should be taken to make sure the crook can't do it again. Ever letting them "back into society", even after 20 years behind bars, just seems like asking for problems, IMO. There is a treatment that reduces the risk of sexually abusing a child by almost 90%. And it is possible that pedophilia may even be curable one day if we research enough. In the long run it would be cheaper if the government just funded research on pedophilia so we won't have to deal with the massive monetary legal cost and human cost of child sex abuse in the future. Because the government spends alot of money on fighting and punishing child sex abuse it would make sense for the government to target the disorder that causes child sex abuse.


And for the record, I'm typically not "tough on crime" either, and I typically support restitution as punishment. Were we talking about a thief, I would support requiring restitution to be paid and no prison time. But I see a huge difference between stealing something and destroying the sexual innocence of a child. It depends on how much was stolen, in what manner it was stolen and what kind of child sex abuse.



I guess I just don't. I think one day that you will do that.

[Christian Liberty]

There is a treatment that reduces the risk of sexually abusing a child by almost 90%. And it is possible that pedophilia may even be curable one day if we research enough. In the long run it would be cheaper if the government just funded research on pedophilia so we won't have to deal with the massive monetary legal cost and human cost of child sex abuse in the future. Because the government spends alot of money on fighting and punishing child sex abuse it would make sense for the government to target the disorder that causes child sex abuse.

I'm skeptical, but people should absolutely seek treatment BEFORE they abuse a kid.


It depends on how much was stolen, in what manner it was stolen and what kind of child sex abuse.


I don't think how much matters, the principle is the same that you should pay double (or more, I'd be fine with that, but the principle is that the victim is being compensated rather than being forced to pay to lock the thief up) what was stolen. But I can see why the manner would matter, if a gun was used I could see the person being a threat to society. But even then, the person should then be locked up and forced to work for the benefit of the victim, not the victim being forced to pay taxes for the benefit of the criminal.




I think one day that you will do that.
Feel sympathy for pedophiles? I guess we'll find out.

[Peach]

I'm skeptical, but people should absolutely seek treatment BEFORE they abuse a kid. I agree with you 100%



I don't think how much matters, the principle is the same that you should pay double (or more, I'd be fine with that, but the principle is that the victim is being compensated rather than being forced to pay to lock the thief up) what was stolen. But I can see why the manner would matter, if a gun was used I could see the person being a threat to society. But even then, the person should then be locked up and forced to work for the benefit of the victim, not the victim being forced to pay taxes for the benefit of the criminal. I agree with thieves being forced to pay back what they stole.



Feel sympathy for pedophiles? I guess we'll find out. Maybe some day you will, have a nice day.