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unknown
07-29-2014, 10:03 PM
Link (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/israeli-professor-rape-hamas-militiants-mothers-sisters-deter-terrorist-attacks-1457836).


"The only thing that could deter a suicide bomber is knowing that if caught, his sister or his mother would be raped," said Kedar on Israel Radio Bet

To the shocked radio presenter who said that "we cannot take such steps, of course", Kedar replied: "I'm not talking about what we should or shouldn't do. I'm talking about the facts.

The only thing that deters a suicide bomber is the knowledge that if he pulls the trigger or blows himself up, his sister will be raped".

Kedar served for 25 years in the military intelligence, where he specialized in Islamic groups. He is currently a researcher at the right-wing Begin-Sadat Centre for Strategic Studies of Bar Ilan but previously worked for the Israel Academia Monitor, which fights left-leaning academic professors.

Errr, is he saying what I think he's saying?

specsaregood
07-29-2014, 10:17 PM
Link (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/israeli-professor-rape-hamas-militiants-mothers-sisters-deter-terrorist-attacks-1457836).
Errr, is he saying what I think he's saying?

what is it you think he is saying?

Christian Liberty
07-29-2014, 10:20 PM
I can't imagine why he'd say something like that if he wasn't at least considering condoning the action.

Mani
07-29-2014, 10:20 PM
So the threat of raping a family member is going to stop someone from blowing himself up? That's as demented and idiotic as the guy blowing himself up.

acptulsa
07-29-2014, 10:28 PM
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"People talk peace, but men give their life's work to war. It won't stop 'til there is as much brains and scientific study put to aid peace as there is to promote war."--Will Rogers 1929

amy31416
07-29-2014, 10:32 PM
Wow. Rather backwards thinking for an alleged professor.

No wonder humanity is stagnating.

Brian4Liberty
07-29-2014, 10:41 PM
"Are we not men? We are Devo."


The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters. --Genghis Khan.

amy31416
07-29-2014, 10:44 PM
"Are we not men? We are Devo."

That quote,
The greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters. seems to apply equally well to the alleged God of the OT.

Christian Liberty
07-29-2014, 10:57 PM
That quote, seems to apply equally well to the alleged God of the OT.

If God created you out of nothing, who are you to criticize his conduct?

Also, there is no "God of the OT". God is the same in both the Old and New Testaments.

amy31416
07-29-2014, 11:10 PM
If God created you out of nothing, who are you to criticize his conduct?

Also, there is no "God of the OT". God is the same in both the Old and New Testaments.

If nobody criticized the bible, then what would you have to talk about?

And no, the "God" of the OT is quite different from Jesus. Jesus wasn't about rape, incest, genocide and murder like the OT "God." Not a fan of him and his influence. Hell, Jesus is allegedly the "Prince of Peace" and even his followers wanted to fuck people up--sometimes just for kicks.

That book, especially the OT, is repulsive in how it's affected/influenced human beings. I want no part of it.

orenbus
07-29-2014, 11:16 PM
Why are you guys so surprised? This isn't any different than what Ann Coulter would say, wouldn't be surprised if this Professor has a book out he's trying to promote by going on air.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WyQvo05pgU

Christian Liberty
07-29-2014, 11:17 PM
If nobody criticized the bible, then what would you have to talk about?

You are criticizing the Bible based on the assumption that it is false.


And no, the "God" of the OT is quite different from Jesus. Jesus wasn't about rape, incest, genocide and murder like the OT "God."

I'm not aware of God ever commanding something that even looked like rape or incest (although, certain forms of consensual incest were allowed at the very beginnings of humanity, because it was essential for the human race to grow when there was nobody but close relatives.)

God did tell the Israelites to kill large groups of people at times. But again, if God created life, he has the right to take it away.

Not a fan of him and his influence. Hell, Jesus is allegedly the "Prince of Peace" and even his followers wanted to fuck people up--sometimes just for kicks.


Oh trust me, there are a lot of Christians that abuse what the Bible says. but that isn't the Bible's fault.

amy31416
07-29-2014, 11:24 PM
You are criticizing the Bible based on the assumption that it is false.



I'm not aware of God ever commanding something that even looked like rape or incest (although, certain forms of consensual incest were allowed at the very beginnings of humanity, because it was essential for the human race to grow when there was nobody but close relatives.)

God did tell the Israelites to kill large groups of people at times. But again, if God created life, he has the right to take it away.


Oh trust me, there are a lot of Christians that abuse what the Bible says. but that isn't the Bible's fault.

Okay.

acptulsa
07-30-2014, 12:58 AM
What do you expect this professor to say? That global warming is a hoax?

He knows where upon his bread the butter resides...

RM918
07-30-2014, 01:19 AM
Yes, because as we all know committing atrocities on a civilian population causes potential terrorists to recoil in fear and be obediently subjugated.

alucard13mm
07-30-2014, 04:48 AM
Let's assume muslims treat their women as 2nd class citizens.. how would doing this stop them from doing jihad? If they would stone their own related women for things like adultry... dont think rape will deter the jihadist. Again, assuming what the media tells us about muslims/jihadist are correct.

otherone
07-30-2014, 05:27 AM
"The only thing that could deter a suicide bomber is knowing that if caught, his sister or his mother would be raped"

Which piece?

William Tell
07-30-2014, 07:05 AM
Disgusting comment, he has just recruited more suicide bombers, congrats idiot.

enhanced_deficit
07-30-2014, 09:22 AM
Link (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/israeli-professor-rape-hamas-militiants-mothers-sisters-deter-terrorist-attacks-1457836).



Errr, is he saying what I think he's saying?


Althought Isreal is not the only non-racist democracy in the world, the regime and its foreign supporters do seem to justify killin of innocent children/women/civilians of non-chosen races for the defense of stolen land. If a USTF country can kill innocent children to defend itself, then why it can,t rape and pillage too for the same cause?


Obama: Israel has the right to defend itself

Christie calls for 'forceful' defense of Israel, says Obama not 'decisive' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?456039-Christie-calls-for-forceful-defense-of-Israel-says-Obama-not-decisive&)

orenbus
07-30-2014, 09:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NMwohMhP10

pcosmar
07-30-2014, 09:57 AM
Anyone advocating,, or justifying rape for any reason is an evil sick and wholly corrupt individual.

Worthy of a bullet at the first opportunity.

Christian Liberty
07-30-2014, 10:06 AM
Anyone advocating,, or justifying rape for any reason is an evil sick and wholly corrupt individual.

Worthy of a bullet at the first opportunity.

I agree with the first part, but I do think SAYING such things would fall under "free speech."

A quote about even Stalin tolerating speech that he liked is coming to mind...

SAYING that rape is justified for whatever reason isn't an aggressive action that's worthy of violent response.

That said, I do think its worthy of shunning and condemnation.

KingNothing
07-30-2014, 10:25 AM
It would seem to me that this is a position held by outliers in Israel, though similar positions are held by a multitude within the Muslim faith.

We've got to keep things in perspective. What the Israeli's do and say is occasionally problematic or downright horrific, but it pails in comparison to the manner in which Islam subjugates those who live in backward theocracies.

pcosmar
07-30-2014, 10:30 AM
We've got to keep things in perspective. What the Israeli's do and say is occasionally problematic or downright horrific, but it pails in comparison to the manner in which Islam subjugates those who live in backward theocracies.

Most of the Countries in the Middle East were not "backwards" before being bombed to rubble.

Christian Liberty
07-30-2014, 10:39 AM
It would seem to me that this is a position held by outliers in Israel, though similar positions are held by a multitude within the Muslim faith.

We've got to keep things in perspective. What the Israeli's do and say is occasionally problematic or downright horrific, but it pails in comparison to the manner in which Islam subjugates those who live in backward theocracies.

I understand. But, we also need to keep things in perspective with regards to the fact that those "backwards theocracies" aren't getting unconditional US support like Israel is.