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enhanced_deficit
07-28-2014, 05:17 PM
In your view, is Obama a political slave & a puppet of special interests like many other recent politicians in Congress/Presidents and "Hope and Change" slogan was a scam?

DamianTV
07-28-2014, 05:22 PM
Um, both?

He has some power, but continues to abuse the power he has. Other stuff that are real problems, he does nothing about. Id have to vote No because he is a member of the Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, and Council on Foreign Relations, all three major propoganda and greed groups. His choice to cooperate with those who exploit humanity is what causes me to think No, he wants to be the Master to the American Slaves. Totally debatable and subjective opinion however.

enhanced_deficit
07-28-2014, 05:28 PM
Um, both?

He has some power, but continues to abuse the power he has. Other stuff that are real problems, he does nothing about. Id have to vote No because he is a member of the Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, and Council on Foreign Relations, all three major propoganda and greed groups. His choice to cooperate with those who exploit humanity is what causes me to think No, he wants to be the Master to the American Slaves. Totally debatable and subjective opinion however.

Ok, it has merit ; no President is a 100% puppet or 100% independent and casting all his actons as those of a puppet seems to absolve him of any responsibility ( although that is debatable since in case of war crimes, " I was just following orders" is not deemed a valid defense ifor example).

If most of the policies are being followed with his own volution, then his double speak before elections fooled a lot of people.

twomp
07-28-2014, 05:34 PM
http://stupidhumantricksblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/988424_10152052669055197_3343123465712111828_n.jpg ?w=549

AuH20
07-28-2014, 05:37 PM
Obama is a globalist certainly, but he's not calling the shots. He's an actor.

Ronin Truth
07-28-2014, 05:47 PM
Maybe, but his house is really nice.

69360
07-28-2014, 05:48 PM
Poll doesn't have an option for I think he's a jackass.

Republicanguy
07-28-2014, 05:57 PM
I think Barack is truth talker, but a liar, as well as a reluctant strong leader. He is non-interventionist, but continues military spending like no tomorrow.

He is bogged down by special interest for sure, he has his own collective beliefs, as being on the leftwing, but a useless one. Hell if actually stood for some views without the militarism perhaps he'd be respected even by Libertarians. But only so far, only so far.

As they always say, the money will run out at some point.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
07-28-2014, 06:22 PM
It's more like I'm the political slave. These people are the masters who hardly think like you and I. Anybody see the thread where the Infowars reporter films the DEA building? The DEA cockroach gets in the filming guy's face. These people are in NO WAY like you. They are not only quantitatively different from you, but they are qualitatively different. People like Obama and this DEA filth are basically your enemy.

Christian Liberty
07-28-2014, 08:11 PM
I don't doubt that if Obama decided to implement Ron Paul's policies tomorrow that he'd be shot. But I don't think its fear that makes him do as he does. Obama wants to do the things he does, and he was picked for that reason. So no, Obama isn't a slave.... we are.

AuH20
07-28-2014, 08:17 PM
I don't doubt that if Obama decided to implement Ron Paul's policies tomorrow that he'd be shot. But I don't think its fear that makes him do as he does. Obama wants to do the things he does, and he was picked for that reason. So no, Obama isn't a slave.... we are.

He was a raised as a product of the system. Examine the Ford Foundation (Ann Dunham) and quite possibly was employed by the CIA in Pakistan. While he probably isn't too preoccupied with the gritty details of his policies, he definitely is an advocate for them. He's the affable front man for this takeover.

HOLLYWOOD
07-28-2014, 08:23 PM
http://itmakessenseblog.com/files/2010/11/obama-puppet-poster.jpg

TheGrinch
07-29-2014, 01:19 AM
I actually want to believe that when Obama spouted all the "hope and change" stuff, that he was actually genuine in some real principled beliefs, no matter whether I disagreed with him or not.

Too bad he was bought out by the power brokers long ago and knew it would never come to fruition, but hey it was a nice thought.

DamianTV
07-29-2014, 02:28 AM
The position of President has always been intended to be one of Service.

Presidents were supposed to serve the People. He is still a servant of sorts. Since he can personally benefit from the results of his decisions, what he serves is his own self interests, or those who line his pockets. One thing is for sure, he does NOT serve the will of the American People, and may very well expect that we serve him.

NOVALibertarian
07-29-2014, 11:02 AM
I don't doubt that if Obama decided to implement Ron Paul's policies tomorrow that he'd be shot. But I don't think its fear that makes him do as he does. Obama wants to do the things he does, and he was picked for that reason. So no, Obama isn't a slave.... we are.

Yeah, I doubt the TPTB (if they exist in any form) would pick someone who possesses conflicting views to be the President of the United States, if only to prevent said President going all Night of the Long Knives on them.

Obama seems to be the classic example of Lord Acton's famous quote. If what he was saying on the campaign trail in 2008 was genuine, he allowed the power and the wealth that comes with the Office corrupt his vision for society and the Republic. It's a shame too, for if Obama stuck by perhaps 60% or so of what he said on the campaign trail, he could very well have been a decent President. He would have obviously been no Ron Paul, but he could have at least been a stopgap.

pcosmar
07-29-2014, 11:13 AM
A puppet,, and a willing participant.

Certainly not calling the shots,, but willingly obeying those that put him there.

NorfolkPCSolutions
07-29-2014, 12:28 PM
I think Barack is truth talker, but a liar, as well as a reluctant strong leader. He is non-interventionist, but continues military spending like no tomorrow.

He is bogged down by special interest for sure, he has his own collective beliefs, as being on the leftwing, but a useless one. Hell if actually stood for some views without the militarism perhaps he'd be respected even by Libertarians. But only so far, only so far.

As they always say, the money will run out at some point.

wut

enhanced_deficit
07-29-2014, 06:03 PM
He is still a servant of sorts.

But not a good one.



A puppet,, and a willing participant.

Certainly not calling the shots,, but willingly obeying those that put him there.

Couldn't help notice it that you voted the opposite of this view as this seems to define a puppet/political slave.

A willing slave or "Uncle Tom" for lack of more accurate term is still a subservient person in the real sense.

RM918
07-29-2014, 06:15 PM
Poll doesn't have an option for I think he's a jackass.

I'd say the problem is that the poll is lacking a good ol' "Kludge is a douchebag." option.

thoughtomator
07-29-2014, 06:16 PM
Obama is just a front man.

pcosmar
07-29-2014, 06:19 PM
Couldn't help notice it that you voted the opposite of this view as this seems to define a puppet/political slave.

A willing slave or "Uncle Tom" for lack of more accurate term is still a subservient person in the real sense.

And active participant. Not a slave..
He is not being forced/held against his will.

He just ain't the BOSS.

enhanced_deficit
07-29-2014, 06:27 PM
And active participant. Not a slave..
He is not being forced/held against his will.

He just ain't the BOSS.

Ok and it is not far from reality, but questions was bit more nanced though in terms of "puppet", " political slave" and not old fashioned slave being held subservient with physical force.


This was an interesting questions raised while back by an anti-war activist:

Ralph Nader asks if Barack Obama will be an Uncle Tom


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo

pcosmar
07-29-2014, 06:49 PM
Ok and it is not far from reality, but questions was bit more nanced though in terms of "puppet", " political slave" and not old fashioned slave being held subservient with physical force.


This was an interesting questions raised while back by an anti-war activist:

Ralph Nader asks if Barack Obama will be an Uncle Tom

No,, an "Uncle Tom" was a slave that sucked up for personal gain.

I do not think Obama is a slave at all.
More of a "true believer".. an actor playing a role,, and being well compensated for it.
He is a socialist because he is a socialist,, he believes in it.

I was hired help,,not a slave.
I did side jobs because I enjoyed the restoration,, and was paid for it. but I was not a slave.

Dianne
07-29-2014, 07:59 PM
Obama is not a political slave; he is a monster ... the most despicable human being I have ever seen. And I never thought anyone could trump George Bush as the most despicable .. I just hope and pray we can survive another two years of this non human, droid.

enhanced_deficit
07-30-2014, 11:07 AM
No,, an "Uncle Tom" was a slave that sucked up for personal gain.

I do not think Obama is a slave at all.
More of a "true believer".. an actor playing a role,, and being well compensated for it.
He is a socialist because he is a socialist,, he believes in it.

I was hired help,,not a slave.
I did side jobs because I enjoyed the restoration,, and was paid for it. but I was not a slave.


All valid points, I'm wondering if our diffrence is on the definition of "political slave" .. which in my view is evolved in modern times and means anyone who is forced to do things to survive politically against his/her moral values/beliefs.

Any difference here seems on nuance and we can agree to disgaree. But I think on Foreign Policy he is as close to a "Political Slave" as it gets and is compressed between his political survival instincts amid pressures/intimidations/carrots and showing loyalty to his major financiers ( Goldman Sachs was top Obama donor as Rev Wright once alluded to painting him as bankers' puppet).

One recent example. Obama is not running for relection any more, do you think his below statement right after Israel started dropping bombs on Palestinian houses that killed mostly children/women/civilians was as a "true believer" or as a "political slave" or as something else like "hired help" or "front man"?


Obama: 'Israel Has The Right To Defend Itself' (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/15/obama-israel-ceasefire_n_5586229.html)

Christian Liberty
07-30-2014, 11:11 AM
Obama is not a political slave; he is a monster ... the most despicable human being I have ever seen. And I never thought anyone could trump George Bush as the most despicable .. I just hope and pray we can survive another two years of this non human, droid.

Had Mitt Romney been elected he would have been worse. The President is always worse than the previous one, barring some exceptional reason for that not to be the case.

enhanced_deficit
08-01-2014, 01:42 AM
http://itmakessenseblog.com/files/2010/11/obama-puppet-poster.jpg




To be fair, disgraced (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?433586-Majority-of-Americans-now-believe-Obama-is-quot-dishonest-and-untrustworthy) SWC dronegansta has some clever advisors though guiding him through supporting of foreign wars/civil wars/destablization projects ordered by peppet masters.

http://images.politico.com/global/news/100930_rahm_obama_ap_605.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=LCy9Y1QlTHqIEM&tbnid=KcSd2x-O3Wt3-M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politico.com%2Fnews%2Fstories %2F1010%2F43299.html&ei=M0TbU5atIMyxyATszYDoBg&bvm=bv.72197243,d.aWw&psig=AFQjCNH6-HPEnRFeHdGOlmGXGNAlaaMkgw&ust=1406965157794899)

enhanced_deficit
08-19-2017, 02:05 PM
To be fair, Trump should evaluated in same way too.
There were some MSM suggestions that Trump was also a puppet.


Steven Bannon: Trump 'puppet master' believes America must be reborn through fire
NEWS.com.au 21h ago



But there is latest news out that Trump just fired his puppet master.