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jct74
07-26-2014, 10:32 PM
update:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctqNOGmHZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctqNOGmHZY

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this aired first on Saturday night at 10 pm but it re-airs again 3 times on Sunday I'm pretty sure, unless some of those times in the title are his regular Fox Business show. looks pretty interesting.



The Police State

Posted by John Stossel | July 25, 2014

POLICING AMERICA: SECURITY VS. LIBERTY

(SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AT 10PM ET ON FNC)

Where's the line between security and liberty? American police are now armed like the military; they use their power more often and forcefully than ever before. The state has new and expanding powers to spy on almost everything you do.

THE WARRIOR COP: SWAT teams were once called out only in emergencies. Now there are almost 100 raids a day. The weapons and tactics they use come straight from the military. Sometimes innocent people are killed. Why use so much force so often? What would you do if armed men in masks broke down your door in the middle of the night?

CONSTITUTION-FREE ZONES: Lots of Americans are getting upset about being detained by armed border patrol agents not on the border but miles away from the border. Some push back, sometimes with violent results.

MANDATORY MINIMUMS: Do mandatory minimum sentences work? Prosecutors like them because they give them more power when they plea bargain with suspects. But judges often object, and sometimes people serve long sentences for trivial crimes. Or no crime.

NSA SPYING: New revelations surface almost daily on ways the Feds spy on Americans. Does this make us safer? Or invade our privacy in destructive ways?

I SPY: Government spying is one thing. Now new, cheaper, "personal" drones make it easy for anyone to spy on anyone. Some say: "I've got nothing to hide. Why should I care?" But then why do you have drapes? Stossel goes to Florida to test the spying power of personal drones.

LEGALIZE WEED: Washington State and Colorado just legalized marijuana for recreational use. Could this be the start of America's trillion dollar drug-war coming to an end? Former advisor to the president Kevin Sabet says: "Colorado will show why legalizing marijuana is a mistake."

Saturday and Sunday at 10PM on Fox News Channel

http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2014/07/25/police-state


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jct74
07-26-2014, 10:39 PM
looks like Radley Bako will be on


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jct74
07-26-2014, 10:42 PM
and Rand Paul


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jct74
07-26-2014, 10:42 PM
starts in 20 minutes (I think).

tangent4ronpaul
07-26-2014, 11:01 PM
Thanks for the heads up, but as I tune in (12:57) it's just ending here. :( have to catch it on another re-run.

-t

jct74
07-26-2014, 11:13 PM
Thanks for the heads up, but as I tune in (12:57) it's just ending here. :( have to catch it on another re-run.

-t

that's strange. I though it aired at the same time across the country. I got the airtimes from the Fox News website:
http://www.foxnews.com/fnctv/index.html

for me it is airing right now but I am going to watch it tomorrow night maybe. someone might upload it to youtube as well.

tangent4ronpaul
07-26-2014, 11:26 PM
Just checked the schedule and it doesn't air again here till 9pm. Set it up to DVR. looks like a good episode.

-t

jct74
07-27-2014, 02:41 AM
bump for 5 am ET airing

TheCount
07-27-2014, 09:05 AM
I haven't watched it yet, but let me take a guess:


FOX News mentality: "When SWAT and Bearcats and mandatory minimums were only used on (black) inner city crack dealers, that didn't bother us so much, but now they're used on (white) suburban pot dealers, and that's terrible."

Anti Federalist
07-27-2014, 01:40 PM
I haven't watched it yet, but let me take a guess:


When SWAT and Bearcats and mandatory minimums were only used on (black) inner city crack dealers, that didn't bother us so much, but now they're used on (white) suburban pot dealers, and that's terrible.

Oh, blow it out your ass, I've been raising hell about this shit for over twenty years now, when it was Rodney King getting beat half to death and multi racial victms being incinerated at Waco.

Constitutional Paulicy
07-27-2014, 01:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR7LhzxSSX8&list=UUU630ZBMtllPm1cPSfIpNsQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EiCZh3RiNg&list=UUU630ZBMtllPm1cPSfIpNsQ

otherone
07-27-2014, 02:32 PM
Former advisor to the president Kevin Sabet says: "Colorado will show why legalizing marijuana is a mistake."


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_29_shKT4Elw/TQkag3s92oI/AAAAAAAALOY/bxV1lUTBBSo/s1600/Willie-Nelson%25255B1%25255D.jpg

TheCount
07-27-2014, 03:00 PM
Oh, blow it out your ass, I've been raising hell about this shit for over twenty years now, when it was Rodney King getting beat half to death and multi racial victms being incinerated at Waco. You, yes. People like us, yes. Fox News, definitely not. They're only pissed now that people 'like them' are on the receiving end.

My apologies if it sounded like I was talking bad about people in this thread. My dickishness was purely meant for the likes of Fox News.

jct74
07-27-2014, 06:46 PM
bump. might be starting at 9 ET in some areas, like tangent said.

jct74
07-27-2014, 07:37 PM
Rand Paul vs. Peter King debate?


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jct74
07-27-2014, 08:14 PM
wow, this is really good!!

Anti Federalist
07-27-2014, 08:25 PM
Rand Paul vs. Peter King debate?


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So, did this actually happen?

jct74
07-27-2014, 08:26 PM
best thing I have seen on Fox News maybe ever.

jct74
07-27-2014, 08:27 PM
So, did this actually happen?

not yet, but King was defending border patrol stopping people 100 miles from the border, where 2/3 of Americans live.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
07-27-2014, 08:32 PM
You mean there is actually a good liberty show for Johnny Punchclock? What happened--did they shut down cable TV and the pizza delivery joint?

Anti Federalist
07-27-2014, 08:39 PM
not yet, but King was defending border patrol stopping people 100 miles from the border, where 2/3 of Americans live.

Of course he did...he's a true believer in Homeland Fascism.

DFF
07-27-2014, 09:42 PM
The War on Drugs.

The War on DWI.

SWAT teams rading your house at 3 am.

2,000,000 + people in US prisons and jails.

None of this totalitarian shit is legal under the Constitution.

Repeal. Repeal. And repeal some more.

kcchiefs6465
07-27-2014, 10:28 PM
The War on Drugs.

The War on DWI.

SWAT teams rading your house at 3 am.

2,000,000 + people in US prisons and jails.

None of this totalitarian shit is legal under the Constitution.

Repeal. Repeal. And repeal some more.
~1.5 million arrested annually. (just for DWI)

jct74
07-28-2014, 02:36 PM
here's the tube. the first 2 segments about police militarization/SWAT and border patrol checkpoints are especially worth watching, the rest is good too. glad someone uploaded this to youtube.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoj4Kjk7JM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoj4Kjk7JM

Mani
07-29-2014, 12:01 AM
That was excellent.

The discussion of Mandatory min. sentences, legalization of Pot. Border Patrol. All excellent topics! And King looked like an Idiot, but they didn't intentionally make him look bad, he just did.

heavenlyboy34
07-29-2014, 12:37 AM
The War on Drugs.

The War on DWI.

SWAT teams rading your house at 3 am.

2,000,000 + people in US prisons and jails.

None of this totalitarian shit is legal under the Constitution.

Repeal. Repeal. And repeal some more.

It's perfectly Constitutional. Read article I (for just one example) to see the ridiculous amount of legal power the regime gave itself. :eek:

VAPA
08-05-2014, 12:45 PM
Here is the Border Patrol video segment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lDSdNYiesU

TaftFan
08-05-2014, 01:21 PM
Funny that the video got removed. Stossel was replying to a comment on Facebook and mentioned that someone wuold probably upload it on Youtube. I guess he personally doesn't care.

Rand has his segment on his channel.

jllundqu
08-05-2014, 02:20 PM
Watched it. It was good.

That is all.

presence
08-05-2014, 02:23 PM
All the tubes have been pulled.


Fuck youtube.

satchelmcqueen
08-05-2014, 06:29 PM
tubes gone

Mani
08-06-2014, 12:25 AM
All the tubes have been pulled.


Fuck youtube.

did fox force youtube?

Bastiat's The Law
08-06-2014, 08:41 AM
Anybody have the full video?

muh_roads
08-06-2014, 04:19 PM
Damn, wanted to watch.

jct74
08-10-2014, 01:08 PM
re-airs tonight


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jct74
08-10-2014, 07:43 PM
bump

Natural Citizen
08-10-2014, 07:50 PM
did fox force youtube?

The thing is that people can comment on youtube. Convenient that you can't comment on FOX stuff.

Brian4Liberty
07-29-2017, 11:38 AM
New Tube of old show:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctqNOGmHZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctqNOGmHZY

nikcers
07-29-2017, 12:20 PM
New Tube of old show:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctqNOGmHZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctqNOGmHZY
I wasn't ready for those feels at 7:00 Brian. Had to rage quit the video.

Brian4Liberty
07-29-2017, 01:07 PM
I wasn't ready for those feels at 7:00 Brian. Had to rage quit the video.

"Caution: some animals were harmed in the making of this video."

Brian4Liberty
07-29-2017, 01:07 PM
Anybody have the full video?

It's up now.

osan
07-30-2017, 05:09 AM
Got through 8:29. Can't watch anymore.

Few things infuriate me because I do not allow them to. This is an exception.

The hubris of those filthy cops is not to be believed. They are so utterly brainwashed with the evil of the "state" that the only proper thing to do with them is euthanize the dangerous beasts. That will not happen, so I would settle with retiring them with zero pension.

This is what America has become and it is nauseating. Americans nauseate me for their feeble-minded acceptance of this sort of thing. I criticize the Europeans for being corrupt and faggish. We are really no better. In fact, we are worse because we have the means of stopping it, yet we choose not to.

OK then. I will go back into the corner and enjoy the dregs of my migraine. Yes, at 60 I have developed the charming habit of migraines. Yesterday I thought my head was going to self-destruct.

osan
07-30-2017, 05:10 AM
I wasn't ready for those feels at 7:00 Brian. Had to rage quit the video.


Same page, pal.

I'm so worn out by tyranny, I don't even know what to do with myself any longer.