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donnay
07-22-2014, 09:09 AM
White flags flying from Brooklyn Bridge, cops probe breach


By Natasha Velez and Larry Celona

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Photo: Anderson / Splash News

In a stunning security breach, the giant American flags at the top of both sides of the Brooklyn Bridge were replaced by white flags overnight, cops said.

The two new flags appear to be American flags that were painted over white — the traditional symbol for “surrender” — and were flying Tuesday morning from both towers.


Continued... (http://nypost.com/2014/07/22/white-flags-flying-from-brooklyn-bridge-cops-probe-breach/)

erowe1
07-22-2014, 11:41 AM
Are the white flags the same size as the usual American ones? If so, maybe all they did was fly one of these drones (http://gizmodo.com/spray-painting-graffiti-drone-not-nearly-as-effective-a-1562351931) up there and paint those very same American flags white?

NorfolkPCSolutions
07-22-2014, 11:42 AM
Dimes to dollars, it was "performance art." If that's the case, I think I like it. Most Americans have willingly surrendered their liberty, and regardless of what the meaning is, or who did it, or how it was done, there is one certainty in this: neither NYPD stop and frisk operations, TSA patdowns, or "enhanced security" stopped someone (or a group of someones) from climbing a series of ladders and putting something atop the Brooklyn Bridge.

Could have been something more...explosive...than "performance art." And all the security theater in the world can do nothing to prevent that.

donnay
07-22-2014, 11:46 AM
A Mysterious White Flag Is Flying From the Brooklyn Bridge

Did New York City surrender? And if so, to whom? That’s what everyone is asking this morning after pictures on social media revealed that two unexplained white flag was flying from the top of each of the Brooklyn Bridge’s two towers where American flags usually sits. At exactly 11:00 a.m., the flag on the Manhattan side of the bridge was taken down, but investigators are still unsure how it got there.

Some people on Twitter joked that it may have to do with Mayor Bill de Blasio’s eight-day family vacation in Italy, while others thought maybe Starbucks had finally taken control of the city.

Gothamist reports that those close enough can see that the flag is actually an American flag that has either been painted white or bleached. An ABC News live stream of the white flag blowing in the wind at the top of the Brooklyn Bridge shows men on nearby investigating:

http://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/screen-shot-2014-07-22-at-10-57-31-am.png?w=640&h=360

Continued... (http://heavy.com/news/2014/07/white-flag-brooklyn-bridge-mystery-american-surrender/)

Dianne
07-22-2014, 12:05 PM
Dimes to dollars, it was "performance art." If that's the case, I think I like it. Most Americans have willingly surrendered their liberty, and regardless of what the meaning is, or who did it, or how it was done, there is one certainty in this: neither NYPD stop and frisk operations, TSA patdowns, or "enhanced security" stopped someone (or a group of someones) from climbing a series of ladders and putting something atop the Brooklyn Bridge.

Could have been something more...explosive...than "performance art." And all the security theater in the world can do nothing to prevent that.

Yeah, that's really the oddest story I've heard yet. That bridge has non stop 24/7 traffic and it's unbelievable no one saw anything. I would love to know the perp's meaning.

VIDEODROME
07-22-2014, 12:30 PM
Maybe it's just bird shit

JK/SEA
07-22-2014, 12:40 PM
one of our founders got tired of rolling over in his grave, and he finally got out, and got up there and raised it....

Anti Federalist
07-22-2014, 01:35 PM
one of our founders got tired of rolling over in his grave, and he finally got out, and got up there and raised it....

Thus endeth, this thread...

NorfolkPCSolutions
07-22-2014, 01:40 PM
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donnay
07-22-2014, 02:01 PM
I also think this could be a way to get TSA on the Bridges now. Because it was a security breach...blah, blah, blah...

Czolgosz
07-22-2014, 02:19 PM
Final lap, perhaps?

pcosmar
07-22-2014, 02:49 PM
cops probe breach

That is always disconcerting. :(

HOLLYWOOD
07-22-2014, 02:57 PM
Suggest to grab attention and a message into the coconuts of the created United States of Idiocracy should of been this flag:

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwintered.20m.com%2FAmericaNaziFlag .gif&f=1

Acala
07-22-2014, 03:46 PM
The white flag doesn't mean surrender. It calls for a hiatus in hostilities. It may lead to surrender, but not necessarily. It might lead to negotiations and peace.

donnay
07-22-2014, 03:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3_53xPlAZU

SMDH.

HOLLYWOOD
07-22-2014, 04:15 PM
Deputy Intelligence Director Miller: "A good deal of pre-operational planning, perhaps ah, indications they have experience climbing, in construction, in bridge work." :rolleyes:

AP: As operations commerce to remove the flags 'Unfolded' there were little sense of danger. :rolleyes:

Ugh these morons... Are you shittin me? This is how the state and media report this?

No mention of the white flags symbolizing "TRUCE" aka "Stop Violence", most likely reflecting either NYPD brutality or foreign policy disasters "Ukraine, Israel/Gaza, et al...?

Nope, corporate media is reporting this all as, what is going on in New York City with all these secure sites being compromised/security breeches? :rolleyes:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3_53xPlAZU

SMDH.

phill4paul
07-22-2014, 04:16 PM
They've been given the chance. Might not be too long before the black flag is raised if they do not begin to heed the warnings.

Uriel999
07-22-2014, 04:30 PM
white flags are flags of the Taliban...omg they have invaded and claimed brooklyn!

osan
07-22-2014, 11:51 PM
white flags are flags of the Taliban...omg they have invaded and claimed brooklyn!

Let them have it.

jbauer
07-23-2014, 08:45 AM
white flags are flags of the Taliban...omg they have invaded and claimed brooklyn!

Curious if they could swing into TN and claim Memphis? Do they have a 800 number that I could call to make a request?

Pericles
07-23-2014, 08:49 AM
white flags are flags of the Taliban...omg they have invaded and claimed brooklyn!

LMAO

TN_VOL
07-23-2014, 08:56 AM
It would have been more appropriate if they had just turned the American flag upside down as a sign of distress.

JK/SEA
07-23-2014, 09:00 AM
It would have been more appropriate if they had just turned the American flag upside down as a sign of distress.

good point...if it had been a true Patriot, thats what would have happened...makes me go hmmmm..

Carlybee
07-23-2014, 09:04 AM
white flags are flags of the Taliban...omg they have invaded and claimed brooklyn!

I thought those were hipsters

donnay
07-23-2014, 09:06 AM
Or basically put up the Gadsden flag.

http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/gadsden-flag.png

PaulConventionWV
07-23-2014, 09:12 AM
It would have been more appropriate if they had just turned the American flag upside down as a sign of distress.

Wouldn't have been very noticeable.

fisharmor
07-23-2014, 09:51 AM
If someone figured out how to get all the dye to fade uniformly after a specified time, then there needn't have been a security breach at all. The flag could have been injected into their flag-replacement process anywhere by anyone.

zert
07-23-2014, 10:46 AM
After 911 we conformed to the requests of our perpetrators. We continue to surrender our freedoms. They wanted the US to change, and we obliged.

donnay
07-23-2014, 12:20 PM
Update:

NYPD’s Miller: No Likely Terror Connection In Brooklyn Bridge White Flag Placement

American flags were once again flying on top of the Brooklyn Bridge Tuesday afternoon, after someone replaced the flags sometime overnight with what appeared to be whitewashed or faded versions of Old Glory.

NYPD Deputy Commissioner for Intelligence and Counterterrorism John Miller said police do not believe the incident was connected to any terror threat.

Miller said as of around 8:30 p.m. Monday, the American flags were still flying on the Brooklyn and Manhattan towers of the bridge. But around 5:30 a.m. Tuesday, construction workers noticed the white flags had taken their place.

Surveillance video revealed that around 3:10 a.m., several people were seen crossing the bridge – four or five of them in a group. Several minutes later, the light that normally illuminates the American flag on the Brooklyn side of the bridge flickered and went out, Miller said.

About 12 minutes after that, the light on the Manhattan side of the bridge also went out, he said.

By 7:30 a.m. Monday, calls about the rogue flags were coming in to police. The bizarre sight turned plenty of heads.

“I saw it on the walk over, but I didn’t know what it was,” a woman said.

“It seems pretty, I don’t know, daring,” a man said.

When members of the Emergency Service Unit went to the top of the bridge later in the morning to document the scene, they found two 20-foot by 11-foot flags on each tower, which appeared to be American flags with stars and stripes that had been bleached white.

Police also found large aluminum pans that had been affixed with zip-ties to cover up the lights that normally illuminate the flags.

Continued... (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/07/22/police-investigating-mysterious-white-flags-on-brooklyn-bridge/)

twomp
07-23-2014, 01:41 PM
I think this picture symbolizes it best.

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/22/23-bridge-flag.w529.h352.2x.jpg

wizardwatson
07-23-2014, 02:01 PM
Sounds like another Banksy.

donnay
07-23-2014, 02:08 PM
I think this picture symbolizes it best.

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/22/23-bridge-flag.w529.h352.2x.jpg


Indeed.

I guess those colors do run--probably made in China.

phill4paul
07-23-2014, 03:37 PM
I guess those colors do run--probably made in China.

LMAO!

GunnyFreedom
07-23-2014, 03:54 PM
My guess is someone painted the flags with red and blue "disappearing ink" and then slipped them into the supply chain. One morning they hoist them up, and 20 minutes into the sun, nothing but white.

ETA: just read the rest of the thread. Looks like a handful of people walked down the bridge and physically replaced them. I still like my idea though lol!

pcosmar
07-23-2014, 03:59 PM
My guess is someone painted the flags with red and blue "disappearing ink" and then slipped them into the supply chain. One morning they hoist them up, and 20 minutes into the sun, nothing but white.

ETA: just read the rest of the thread. Looks like a handful of people walked down the bridge and physically replaced them. I still like my idea though lol!

Next time,,, maybe

pcosmar
07-23-2014, 04:03 PM
Cop Probe Breach


http://x2.fjcdn.com/comments/5197261+_38816bab60fa5ad9c3c78199b50d28d4.jpg

donnay
07-24-2014, 08:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD5nTDxQ3XA


"Investigators are going through social media to see if anyone is claiming responsibility for the stunt."

Carson
07-24-2014, 06:40 PM
Someone switched the flags on their bridge to white flags.

I really don't get the breach hysteria (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hysteria).


Actually I say their bridge out of respect. It may have been sold off our used as collateral for all of the money that being counterfeited and printed up. Does their stingyness give them away?

GunnyFreedom
07-24-2014, 09:37 PM
I don't really think there is a bunch of hysteria, just the hyperfocused 15 minutes typical to the modern news cycle.

tangent4ronpaul
07-24-2014, 10:11 PM
I think this picture symbolizes it best.

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/22/23-bridge-flag.w529.h352.2x.jpg

They just announced their solution to this problem: MORE CAMERAS!

London is the most camera dense area on the planet. Guess how many crimes or terrorist acts have been prevented or incidents "solved" by all those cameras...

NONE!

Really, what do cameras do but remember the event. You know, terrorism porn. Sure, the Boston bombing... the feds crowdsourced that and re-assigned hundreds of agents and it took forever to ID 2 people. So yeah, toss some more hay on that optical haystack. :rolleyes:

pssst kid, could I interest you in some video surveillance footage of bigfoot...

Yeah police state! NOT!

-t

fr33
07-24-2014, 11:57 PM
"Investigators are going through social media to see if anyone is claiming responsibility for the stunt."

It's probably too late for it but after reading that I kinda feel like trolling them. "Man who's never been anywhere near NY suspected in flag stunt"

Lucille
07-25-2014, 01:05 PM
Security Crackdown After Brooklyn Bridge White Flag Stunt
http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/25/security-crackdown-after-brooklyn-bridge


Remember the halcyon days in America before the advent of the pervasive surveillance state with NSA snoops combing through our phone calls and emails; license plate cameras on every corner; top secret no-fly lists from which there is no escape; all enforced by armored police eager to ignore the tattered privacy protections of the Fourth Amendment? In those better days, the stunt in which some rapscallions placed white flags atop the Brooklyn bridge would have occasioned grumbling from the authorities that would have amounted to: "Dern kids. Get off my lawn."

The Gothamist is reporting how the police are using all of the tools of modern forensic science including DNA databases to track down the cell of white flag scofflaws:


Sources tell the NY Post that the zip ties used to fasten the aluminum pans over the lights atop the towers have DNA evidence on them. Now investigators are running the DNA evidence through their vast database of DNA, and it's only a matter of time before a heavily-armed SWAT team crashes through your ceiling due to a data entry error. Look, there's a red laser beam on your forehead right now!

Also from the tabloid of record: "Investigators are also scouring social media, pulling phone logs and running hundreds of license plates, police sources said. They are tracking down all calls made from the bridge around the time the flags were replaced early Tuesday... Investigators were pulled from homicide, counterterrorism, intel and transit to hunt down the infiltrators..." Hey, whatever it takes to bring these skateboarding teenagers to justice.

In other white flag news, the city is beefing up security not only on the Brooklyn Bridge but on all other potential terrorist targets. "The NYPD has already implemented increased security measures on the Brooklyn Bridge, and multiple agencies are collaborating with the police on further measures that will increase the safety of this and other key facilities," First Deputy Mayor Anthony Shorris said in a statement. The NYPD doesn't think the white flags were related to terrorism, but the incident did expose glaring flaws in the city's security theater apparatus. The solution, obviously, is more security theater.

Yes, obviously.

The terrorists won. Do Americans realize that yet?

PRB
07-25-2014, 01:20 PM
so much for police state

DamianTV
07-25-2014, 03:37 PM
Security Crackdown After Brooklyn Bridge White Flag Stunt
http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/25/security-crackdown-after-brooklyn-bridge



The terrorists won. Do Americans realize that yet?

I thought the People were the Terrorists? Oh, misinterpretation of "Terrorist"...

tangent4ronpaul
07-25-2014, 10:54 PM
hmmmm...

Anyone know a good NASCAR pit crew...

2815

-t

PRB
07-25-2014, 10:58 PM
I thought the People were the Terrorists? Oh, misinterpretation of "Terrorist"...

police state fail. and the coward won't step up to take credit.

donnay
07-26-2014, 08:08 AM
police state fail. and the coward won't step up to take credit.

Unless it was the police state who did it so they can usher in permanent check points?

tangent4ronpaul
07-26-2014, 08:14 AM
Unless it was the police state who did it so they can usher in permanent check points?

Probably just the D.A.M.E kids out on a training exercise... :rolleyes:

-t

pcosmar
07-26-2014, 08:20 AM
Unless it was the police state who did it so they can usher in permanent check points?

That would make this False Flag a False Flag.

JK/SEA
07-26-2014, 08:33 AM
maybe we should all start flying white flags...i like those clip-on type for the car...

pcosmar
07-26-2014, 08:41 AM
maybe we should all start flying white flags...i like those clip-on type for the car...

http://hardcorezen.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/nevergiveup.png

tangent4ronpaul
07-26-2014, 09:04 AM
2818

-t

JK/SEA
07-26-2014, 09:05 AM
http://hardcorezen.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/nevergiveup.png

i believe these posters are in every police department...

Anti Federalist
07-26-2014, 09:50 AM
The terrorists won. Do Americans realize that yet?

Yes, they realize it.

They are happy about it.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/23qyrg7.jpg

PRB
07-26-2014, 10:04 AM
Unless it was the police state who did it so they can usher in permanent check points?

why didn't I think of that?

Lucille
08-13-2014, 04:39 PM
German Artists Claim Responsibility for Brooklyn Bridge Stunt
http://reason.com/24-7/2014/08/13/german-artists-claim-responsibility-for


Two German artists have claimed responsibility for hoisting white flags on New York's Brooklyn Bridge last month in place of official US flags.

The act was a celebration of public art in the "global centre of creativity", the Berlin-based pair said.

It also marked the anniversary of the death in 1926 of the bridge's German-born architect, John August Roebling.

The overnight stunt mystified police and exposed security flaws. Police said they were looking into the claims.

Officials earlier said they would not treat the act as a joke or statement.
[...]
Done with respect

In a statement, the Berlin-based artists Mischa Leinkauf and Mattias Wermke said White American Flags was an art project, the latest in a series taking place in urban environments.
[...]
Speculation raged on social media about who was behind the act and its symbolism - with supposed suspects ranging from cyclists to aliens.

However some posters pointed to the work of US artist Jasper Johns, whose White Flag painting belongs to the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

They want their flags back. LOL They embarrassed the cops, who were allegedly "onto them" so they'll probably be prosecuted.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/brooklyn-bridge-flag-switchers-white-flags-back/story?id=24965032


"Ball is in their court," the law enforcement source said. "They are realizing we are onto them and now they're making overtures" to at least return the flags.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said today that the police are still looking over their video surveillance tapes and they will have the final decision whether or not to prosecute.

"I am going to leave it to the NYPD to answer in specific. If they have violated the law, of course they should be prosecuted," de Blasio said.

The artists have a history of daring performance art that has shown them scaling buildings and bridges across the globe and if the Brooklyn Bridge stunt is true, it's not their first "performance" on the Brooklyn Bridge. The duo has pictures on their website showing balloons that they "installed" on the cables of the bridge in 2007.

Anti Federalist
08-13-2014, 04:47 PM
Two German artists have claimed responsibility for hoisting white flags on New York's Brooklyn Bridge last month in place of official US flags.

The act was a celebration of public art in the "global centre of creativity", the Berlin-based pair said.

Pfffft...weaksauce.

Was hoping it wouldn't have turned out to be some meaningless bullshit...