FBI pushed Muslims to plot terrorist attacks: rights report

[donnay]

FBI pushed Muslims to plot terrorist attacks: rights report

By Chantal Valery

The FBI encouraged and sometimes even paid Muslims to commit terrorist acts during numerous sting operations after the 9/11 attacks, a human rights group said in a report published Monday.

"Far from protecting Americans, including American Muslims, from the threat of terrorism, the policies documented in this report have diverted law enforcement from pursuing real threats," said the report by Human Rights Watch.

Aided by Columbia University Law School's Human Rights Institute, Human Rights Watch examined 27 cases from investigation through trial, interviewing 215 people, including those charged or convicted in terrorism cases, their relatives, defense lawyers, prosecutors and judges.

"In some cases the FBI may have created terrorists out of law-abiding individuals by suggesting the idea of taking terrorist action or encouraging the target to act," the report said.

In the cases reviewed, half the convictions resulted from a sting operation, and in 30 percent of those cases the undercover agent played an active role in the plot.

"Americans have been told that their government is keeping them safe by preventing and prosecuting terrorism inside the US," said Andrea Prasow, the rights group's deputy Washington director.

"But take a closer look and you realize that many of these people would never have committed a crime if not for law enforcement encouraging, pressuring and sometimes paying them to commit terrorist acts."

US Attorney General Eric Holder has strongly defended the FBI undercover operations as "essential in fighting terrorism."

"These operations are conducted with extraordinary care and precision, ensuring that law enforcement officials are accountable for the steps they take -– and that suspects are neither entrapped nor denied legal protections," Holder said July 8 during a visit to Norway.

The HRW report, however, cites the case of four Muslim converts from Newburgh, New York who were accused of planning to blow up synagogues and attack a US military base.

A judge in that case "said the government 'came up with the crime, provided the means, and removed all relevant obstacles,' and had, in the process, made a terrorist out of a man 'whose buffoonery is positively Shakespearean in scope,'" the report said.

Continued... (http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-pushed-muslims-plot-terrorist-attacks-rights-report-160325158.html)

[mczerone]

HBO just aired "The Newburgh Sting" about the one case.

It didn't exonerate the "patsies" - but it certainly works to show that the FBI aren't stopping terror - they are creating it; that the police-state views us all as pawns to play to get increased job security and bigger budgets; and that the state is losing legitimacy among the poorer/unconnected members of society.

One man interviewed basically paraphrased Aristotle:

(from my memory) "The government is the largest gang in the world. I mean, we've got gangs around here, but they're just like ants under the government's boot."

I turned it on expecting a state-excusing fluff piece, but I stayed for the whole movie. There were multiple people related to the these four guys that have totally stopped thinking that the government is any kind of agency looking out for them.

5 stars.

(except where they called "the Underwear Bomber" a legitimate terrorist unaided by the FBI without any qualifications that he may have been, been wasn't proven to be - probably because it was the CIA overseas and not the domestic FBI).

[enhanced_deficit]

this Guardian headline wis telling:

Government agents 'directly involved' in most high-profile US terror plots

• Human Rights Watch documents 'sting' operations
• Report raises questions about post-9/11 civil rights



The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian), Monday 21 July 2014 09.30 EDT


Nearly all of the highest-profile domestic terrorism plots in the United States since 9/11 featured the "direct involvement" of government agents or informants, a new report says.


Some of the controversial "sting" operations "were proposed or led by informants", bordering on entrapment by law enforcement. Yet the courtroom obstacles to proving entrapment are significant, one of the reasons the stings persist.
The lengthy report, released on Monday by Human Rights Watch (http://www.hrw.org/node/127456), raises questions about the US criminal justice system's ability to respect civil rights and due process in post-9/11 terrorism cases. It portrays a system that features not just the sting operations but secret evidence, anonymous juries, extensive pretrial detentions and convictions significantly removed from actual plots.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/21/government-agents-directly-involved-us-terror-plots-report





Related


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?455436-Meet-the-Americans-the-NSA-and-FBI-are-spying-on&

One interesting pattern here, people being snooped on by Obama administration seem pro Palestinians/have Muslim/Arab sounding names/CAIR officials. Not a single pro Israeli on the list.

This appears to be in sharp contrast to people being snooped on by Bush administration ; targets included pro Israelis , had Jewish sounding names/AIPAC officials.

FBI steps up AIPAC espionage probe (http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/pg-fbi.html)
Dec 16, 2004 - The FBI raided AIPAC's offices in early December. ... investigations began when the FBI discovered “new, 'massive' Israeli spying operations in ... affair” revealed the “escalating fight over Iran policy” in the Bush administration.

AIPAC/Likudnik Larry Franklin Arrested for Espionage on Behalf of ... (http://www.wrmea.org/wrmea-archives/275-washington-report-archives-2000-2005/july-2005/8510-special-report-aipaclikudnik-larry-franklin-arrested-for-espionage-on-behalf-of-israel.html)
Nor does it explain the FBI raids on AIPAC's Capitol Hill headquarters, from which ... If President Bush really wants to resolve the Arab-Israeli problem, he cannot ...

Major scandal erupts involving Rep. Jane Harman, Alberto ... (http://www.salon.com/2009/04/20/harman/)
www.salon.com/2009/04/20/harman/Salon (http://www.salon.com/2009/04/20/harman/Salon)
Apr 20, 2009 - Jane Harman , the California Democrat with a longtime involvement in intelligence issues, was overheard on an NSA wiretap telling a suspected Israeli agent ... Back in October, 2006, Time reported that the DOJ and FBI were ...


Obama apparently quietly dropped Bush administration's prosecution of AIPAC espionage case soon after getting in the White House:

Case against AIPAC lobbyists dropped - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/02/fed-drop-charges-against-aipac-staffers/?page=all)
May 2, 2009 - The Justice Department Friday ended the high-profile prosecution of two former pro-Israel ... Case against AIPAC lobbyists dropped ... Mr. Netanyahu's delegation when the Israeli prime minister meets with President Obama.

NEWS: FBI 'infuriated' at DoJ dropping AIPAC case (http://www.ufppc.org/us-a-world-news-mainmenu-35/8573-news-fbi-infuriated-at-doj-dropping-aipac-case.html)
May 2, 2009 - The top official at the FBI's Washington office said he was ... case against two former lobbyists for a pro-Israel advocacy group, ... to criminalize the exchange of sensitive information among journalists, lobbyists, and policy analysts. ... to light in 2004 when FBI agents raided AIPAC offices, appeared to be ...


Why Obama and Bush snooping in seperate directions in the US?

[tod evans]

The tax-ticks behind this behavior cannot be voted out, hell most of them can't even be fired.

It's not "just" terrorism that they use as an excuse, it's drugs and children too....Just read the headlines.

The real threat to freedom and liberty is government and her agents...Government as an institution can't really be fought but her individual agents can!

Every one of 'em from the lowliest file clerk to AG Holder is susceptible to public outrage.........If only the public were outraged...

[tangent4ronpaul]

I think people are catching on. A tipping point seems to be approaching. This story needs to catch legs, and the 26 pages one too. Get that released and some politicians will be getting pink slips.

November is going to be really important. Why aren't we organising like crazy.

-t

[tod evans]

I think people are catching on. A tipping point seems to be approaching. This story needs to catch legs, and the 26 pages one too. Get that released and some politicians will be getting pink slips.

November is going to be really important. Why aren't we organising like crazy.

-t

I'll believe it when I see the tax-ticks swinging from lamp-posts on the thorofare, when I see the drug and terrorist "warriors" heads on pikes..

Until then its just more hot air.

Voting isn't going to remove the bottom feeders and unproductive government employees...All that changing politicians will do is change the headlines for a while.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I'll believe it when I see the tax-ticks swinging from lamp-posts on the thorofare, when I see the drug and terrorist "warriors" heads on pikes..

Until then its just more hot air.

Voting isn't going to remove the bottom feeders and unproductive government employees...All that changing politicians will do is change the headlines for a while.

Glass half empty... :(

PPl are getting pissed and they are gong to resort to the voting box before the ammo box.

-t

[HOLLYWOOD]

Let's reflect...

'The Long Kiss Goodnight' 1996




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utIGvJm6-Oc

[tangent4ronpaul]

Let's reflect...

'The Long Kiss Goodnight' 1996




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utIGvJm6-Oc

OK - mind blown...

-t

[Ronin Truth]

Well I never. I mean, would our beloved and honorable FBI ever be so duplicitous, dishonest and nefarious as to engineer and execute anything so low down, criminal and nasty as a murderous false flag event plot? ( Deja vu ! ;) )

[donnay]

Flashback:

Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast

By RALPH BLUMENTHAL
Published: October 28, 1993

Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.

The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad A. Salem, should be used, the informer said.

The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as in a far better position than previously known to foil the Feb. 26 bombing of New York City's tallest towers. The explosion left six people dead, more than 1,000 injured and damages in excess of half a billion dollars. Four men are now on trial in Manhattan Federal Court in that attack.

Mr. Salem, a 43-year-old former Egyptian army officer, was used by the Government to penetrate a circle of Muslim extremists now charged in two bombing cases: the World Trade Center attack and a foiled plot to destroy the United Nations, the Hudson River tunnels and other New York City landmarks. He is the crucial witness in the second bombing case, but his work for the Government was erratic, and for months before the trade center blast, he was feuding with the F.B.I. Supervisor 'Messed It Up'

Continued... (http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/28/nyregion/tapes-depict-proposal-to-thwart-bomb-used-in-trade-center-blast.html)

[donnay]

Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I.
By DAVID K. SHIPLER
Published: April 28, 2012

THE United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years — or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts.

But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. Suspects naïvely played their parts until they were arrested.

When an Oregon college student, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, thought of using a car bomb to attack a festive Christmas-tree lighting ceremony in Portland, the F.B.I. provided a van loaded with six 55-gallon drums of “inert material,” harmless blasting caps, a detonator cord and a gallon of diesel fuel to make the van smell flammable. An undercover F.B.I. agent even did the driving, with Mr. Mohamud in the passenger seat. To trigger the bomb the student punched a number into a cellphone and got no boom, only a bust.

This is legal, but is it legitimate? Without the F.B.I., would the culprits commit violence on their own? Is cultivating potential terrorists the best use of the manpower designed to find the real ones? Judging by their official answers, the F.B.I. and the Justice Department are sure of themselves — too sure, perhaps.

Continued... (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)

[donnay]

The Colossal Deceit Known As The Underwear Bomber Case
by Kurt Haskell

With jury selection set to begin in the Underwear Bomber Trial set to begin tomorrow, I've spent the evening reminiscing about Christmas Day 2009 and the 21 months since. The Underwear Bomber attack has fundamentally changed my life. Not in the way most would think, but it has destroyed any faith I've had in the U.S. Government, the media and this country as a whole. To say that I believe the government is corrupt and the media is complicit doesn't fully explain my beliefs. Not only have I come to those conclusions, but I've witnessed that an ordinary person who sees something important can be silenced despite his efforts to spread the truth. Such is the Underwear Bomber case. I can do nothing but laugh at the TSA's new policy of "If you see something say something." That is exactly what I did, and not only did the U.S. Government not want to hear what I had to say, but it actively lied about it, attempted to get me to change my story, and hid, by withholding (secret government) evidence or putting a protective order on the evidence and nearly everything that would support my eyewitness account.

Where are we now? We now have The Underwear Bomber (Umar) representing himself with the help of standby attorney Chambers. Attorney Chambers has indicated to me that if he were Umar's attorney, that the defense would be entrapment and that I would be a key witness. Of course, such a defense would expose the U.S. Government's involvement in the plot. It is much too convenient to have Umar represent himself and be in charge of what the defense will be, what evidence is presented, what witnesses are called and what questions each witness is asked. A trial with Umar representing himself will leave the relevant facts of this case unknown for generations. I can't help but think that Umar fired his attorneys for a reason other than he is a crazy terrorist. It is much too convenient that the entity that staged the event, also controls the evidence, what information is leaked to the media, who the prosecutors are, and the prison where Umar has sbeen staying at for the last 21 months. Let's not overlook the fact that the U.S. Government has admitted to waterboarding and torturing terrorists. Do you see the pieces of the puzzle forming a clear picture yet?

Make no mistake that Umar did in fact attempt to detonate a device (although it was a defective device) on Flight 253. He is not innocent. It remains to be discovered whether my belief that Umar is complicit with the "theatre" going on before our eyes came about before or after the event of Christmas Day 2009. It really is not important except that you must understand that he is now complicit in covering up the true story of Christmas Day 2009. There is no other explanation as to why Umar is representing himself and rejecting the entrapment defense (Which I have discovered he will do).

For those that are still skeptical of my claims, please realize that I do not make my claims without a great deal of thought and research. My firm belief is that Umar was escorted around security and given an intentionally defective bomb by a U.S. intelligence agent. The bomb was never intended to detonate, but merely intended to create a "simulated terrorist attack" or a "false flag attack" if you will. In December of 2009, the U.S. Government hadn't seen a terrorist attack in 8 years, It was getting more and more difficult to spend hundreds of billions a year on terrorism and to continue to fight two fraudulent wars based on terrorism. Those making their livings off of the war on terror didn't want to lose their cash cow. Enter Umar the Underwear Bomber. A second benefit of a failed bomb being found in Umar's underwear, was to enable body scanning machines to be placed in every airport. How convenient for Michael Chertoff , a former head of the DHS, to have ties to the body scanning companies. I doubt that this was any coincidence. Once again, billions of dollars would flow from the U.S. Government for body scanning machines that were needed to protect us.

Continued... (http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2011/09/colossal-deceit-known-as-underwear.html)

[donnay]

New OKC Revelations Spotlight FBI Involvement In Bombing
Nichols' claim that McVeigh had government handlers supported by huge weight of known evidence

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Prison Planet
Thursday, February 22, 2007


New claims by Oklahoma City Bombing conspirator Terry Nichols that Timothy McVeigh was being steered by a high-level FBI official are supported by a plethora of evidence that proves McVeigh did not act alone and that authorities had prior warnings and were complicit in the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.

The Salt Lake Tribune reported yesterday,

Oklahoma City bombing conspirator Terry Nichols says a high-ranking FBI official "apparently" was directing Timothy McVeigh in the plot to blow up a government building and might have changed the original target of the attack, according to a new affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Utah.

The official and other conspirators are being protected by the federal government "in a cover-up to escape its responsibility for the loss of life in Oklahoma," Nichols claims in a Feb. 9 affidavit.

Documents that supposedly help back up his allegations have been sealed to protect information in them, such as Social Security numbers and dates of birth.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Utah had no comment on the allegations. The FBI and Justice Department in Washington, D.C., also declined comment.

In another report, the Deseret Morning News named the FBI agent at Larry Potts, but that information has now been sealed by the court.

Potts was no stranger to anti-government confrontations, having been the lead FBI agent at Ruby Ridge in 1992, which led to the shooting death of Vicki Weaver, the wife of separatist Randy Weaver.Potts also was reportedly involved in the 51-day siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas in 1993, which resulted in a fire that killed 81 Branch Davidian followers.

Potts retired from the FBI under intense pressure and criticism for the cover-up of an order to allow agents to shoot anyone seen leaving the Weaver cabin at Ruby Ridge.
"McVeigh said he believed Potts was manipulating him and forcing him to 'go off script,' which I understood meant to change the target of the bombing," Nichols stated.

Continued... (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/220207okcrevelations.htm)