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Keith and stuff
07-21-2014, 10:30 AM
The federal government came up with a new plan to reduce the debt, increase the TSA flight security fee from $2.50-$5 to $5.60-$10. I'm sure families on vacation or traveling on holiday to see their extended families will love this. Of course, business travelers will also have to pay billions in new fees/taxes because of this. That likely won't be good for the struggling economy... Thank you Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader and President Obama!

TSA security fee on airline tickets rises Monday
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/07/20/tsa-security-fee/12849631/


Transportation Security Administration fees on plane tickets are rising Monday, and travelers used to non-stop flights or long layovers will notice the biggest change.

The current fee is $2.50 for a non-stop flight or $5 for a connecting flight. The new fee will be $5.60 for all flights, with any connection longer than four hours counting as a separate flight.


Patrick Riehl of Cambridge, Mass., argued that two things other than the TSA have made aviation safer since the Sept. 11 attacks that prompted creation of the agency: reinforced cockpit doors and passengers who fight back. "It only succeeds in humiliating the elderly, scaring children and making all travelers feel like criminal suspects," he said in submitted comments. "We should scale back airport security, not expand it."

Jonathan Peterson, of Atlanta, said he strongly opposes the higher fee because of past TSA mistakes in buying equipment that was later discarded. "The TSA has wasted tremendous traveler time and money, with useless security theater and lobbyist payout devices like whole-body scanners," he said.

James Cartmill said because money is diverted to the general fund, the higher fee should be considered a tax — and House Republicans should be blamed for going against their pledge not to raise taxes. "It's all a very expensive fleecing of consumers, and now the TSA fee will become another thing to be cynical about and to add to the cost of travel," he said.

Congress agreed to the increase in December to raise $12.6 billion to cut the deficit. TSA estimates the hike will generate $16.9 billion more than current collections.



"In accordance with federal law, the revenue generated from the security fee will be deposited in the general fund of the Treasury," said David Castelveter, a TSA spokesman. "The revenue is to be used to offset TSA costs for providing civil aviation security services, after stipulated amounts are applied to reduction of the federal deficit."


"It's like paying for a root canal," said George Hobica, founder of airfarewatchdog.com, which monitors ticket prices. "It's something you didn't want anyway. Now you're paying more for it."

angelatc
07-21-2014, 10:32 AM
It's like the lottery - a tax on stupidity.

thoughtomator
07-21-2014, 12:05 PM
anyone who is not already boycotting air travel deserves it

JK/SEA
07-21-2014, 12:32 PM
may as well triple that fee...hell, just a flat 100 bucks per ticket....the people must be saved.

aGameOfThrones
07-21-2014, 01:08 PM
It's not a tax if it's for your safety.

Keith and stuff
07-21-2014, 02:07 PM
anyone who is not already boycotting air travel deserves it

What about the 10,000+ or whatever businesses that rely on air travel of their employees and/or customers to keep the businesses healthy? What about the family that lives in WA but wants to take their 8 year old to Disney Land? Or the daughter in New York that just found out that her mother in SC died and the funeral is in 3 days?

This is a tax on business and a tax on the pursuit of happiness. It's designed to hurt the economy.

invisible
07-21-2014, 02:45 PM
What about the 10,000+ or whatever businesses that rely on air travel of their employees and/or customers to keep the businesses healthy? What about the family that lives in WA but wants to take their 8 year old to Disney Land? Or the daughter in New York that just found out that her mother in SC died and the funeral is in 3 days?

This is a tax on business and a tax on the pursuit of happiness. It's designed to hurt the economy.

What's more important to the business traveler? Convenience, or finding another job and living in a free country?
Good opportunity for that family to educate that 8 year old by explaining that the gov't is the reason they are driving to Disneyland, if they even go at all. NY to SC can be done in under a day by car or bus. No one "needs" to fly. If people were actually willing to take a stand, this crap could have been nipped in the bud over a decade ago if the airlines had said "we'll be instantly bankrupted if you do this".

angelatc
07-21-2014, 02:49 PM
What's more important to the business traveler? Convenience, or finding another job and living in a free country?
Good opportunity for that family to educate that 8 year old by explaining that the gov't is the reason they are driving to Disneyland, if they even go at all. NY to SC can be done in under a day by car or bus. No one "needs" to fly. If people were actually willing to take a stand, this crap could have been nipped in the bud over a decade ago if the airlines had said "we'll be instantly bankrupted if you do this".


Absolutely. I've been saying that for years but as you are about to find out we are in the vast minority here.

Keith and stuff
07-21-2014, 02:57 PM
Good opportunity for that family to educate that 8 year old by explaining that the gov't is the reason they are driving to Disneyland, if they even go at all. NY to SC can be done in under a day by car or bus. No one "needs" to fly.

That's so heartless, this is the only appropriate response I can think of. :rolleyes:

thoughtomator
07-21-2014, 03:08 PM
What about the 10,000+ or whatever businesses that rely on air travel of their employees and/or customers to keep the businesses healthy?[QUOTE]

Move them to another country without a Fascist air travel regime, or find an alternative method of travel, or shut down the enterprise.

[QUOTE]What about the family that lives in WA but wants to take their 8 year old to Disney Land?

Someone who would expose their own 8-year-old daughter to TSA groper-scanner perverts is either irrational or reprehensible, pick one.


Or the daughter in New York that just found out that her mother in SC died and the funeral is in 3 days?

That is a lifestyle choice she made to live 1500 miles away from her mother.


This is a tax on business and a tax on the pursuit of happiness. It's designed to hurt the economy.

That ship sailed well over a decade ago. Forget the economy, we have no such thing worth the name left to us. We simply have a singular choice: will we accept living under Fascism, or will we make the sacrifices necessary to ensure our posterity has a chance to be free men and women?

If the trivial inconveniences of not using air travel are too much of a sacrifice to bear, then you may as well prepare yourself for the full Nazi.