Cops beat man unconscious for not showing ID

[green73]

LIMA, OH — A pedestrian suffered numerous injuries following a confrontation with police officers who violently demanded his identity.

Tyler Paxson, 19, says that on July 12th, 2014, Lima police officers took an interest in him and would not leave him alone until he produced an identification. The young man was simply nearby when police officers were responding to an unrelated call.

The young man took objection to being demanded to produce ID, thinking that Americans enjoyed the freedom to walk around without having to show documentation to government agents for no reason. Officers let him know with their fists that this is may not be the case.

Greg Sowinski described the events at LimaOhio.com:


Paxson said he stopped by a friend’s house when officers in the area, responding to a call he was not connected to, approached him.

“The officer started immediately harassing me and saying what are you doing? What is your name?” Paxson said.

Paxson said the officer was yelling at him.

“I don’t really like talking to the police in the first place,” Paxson said. “I looked at the officer and said, ‘I’m an American citizen and I haven’t done anything wrong.’ I said, ‘I have all rights to walk away.’”

Paxson said he then tried to walk away.

“As soon as I went to walk down the step he grabbed my arm and ripped me off the step and slammed me to the ground,” Paxson said.

The officer pulled Paxson up and then slammed him into a building, Paxson said. Other officers arrived.

“The first officer who came around the building immediately began beating me in the eye with a fist,” he said. “He ran up and attacked the hell out of me.”

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http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/tyler-paxson-ohio/

[aGameOfThrones]

In Nazi Germany he would have been killed for not showing ID, he's lucky we are not yet there.

[phill4paul]

In my view, as a jurist, he would have been in the right for shooting all of them.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

multiple officers picking on a single person who is alone oh how so brave of them

[mrsat_98]

In Nazi Germany he would have been killed for not showing ID, he's lucky we are not yet there.

You give them to much credit, IMHO you deserve neg rep.

[presence]

Ohio Stop and Identify Law:


2921.29 Failure to disclose personal information.


(A) No person who is in a public place shall refuse to disclose the person's name, address, or date of birth, when requested by a law enforcement officer who reasonably suspects either of the following:
(1) The person is committing, has committed, or is about to commit a criminal offense.
(2) The person witnessed any of the following:
(a) An offense of violence that would constitute a felony under the laws of this state;
(b) A felony offense that causes or results in, or creates a substantial risk of, serious physical harm to another person or to property;
(c) Any attempt or conspiracy to commit, or complicity in committing, any offense identified in division (A)(2)(a) or (b) of this section;
(d) Any conduct reasonably indicating that any offense identified in division (A)(2)(a) or (b) of this section or any attempt, conspiracy, or complicity described in division (A)(2)(c) of this section has been, is being, or is about to be committed.
(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of failure to disclose one's personal information, a misdemeanor of the fourth degree.
(C) Nothing in this section requires a person to answer any questions beyond that person's name, address, or date of birth. Nothing in this section authorizes a law enforcement officer to arrest a person for not providing any information beyond that person's name, address, or date of birth or for refusing to describe the offense observed.
(D) It is not a violation of this section to refuse to answer a question that would reveal a person's age or date of birth if age is an element of the crime that the person is suspected of committing.
Effective Date: 04-14-2006

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[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Ohio Stop and Identify Law:...

Illegal laws aren't laws

[acptulsa]

In Kolender v. Lawson, the Supreme Court decided years ago that cops have no right to demand pedestrians show ID, as no license is required to walk. But the court did say cops have the right to ask a person's identity, and get an honest answer.

[Henry Rogue]

In Kolender v. Lawson, the Supreme Court decided years ago that cops have no right to demand pedestrians show ID, as no license is required to walk. But the court did say cops have the right to ask a person's identity, and get an honest answer.
Is no answer honest enough?

[acptulsa]

Is no answer honest enough?

For a cop who will beat someone senseless for trying to walk away from him? No. I'd say any answer would be too honest for that one. Like, for instance, 'I think it's time you cut down on the steroids.'

[aGameOfThrones]

You give them to much credit, IMHO you deserve neg rep.


If I had posted examples of cops killing people for not showing ID I would had given away my /s post.

[qh4dotcom]

I have a question....what happens if you left your ID at home/don't have it with you and a cop asks for it?

[presence]

I have a question....what happens if you left your ID at home/don't have it with you and a cop asks for it?

Stop and Identify laws do not require you to produce ID, only that you state your name, age, and home address.

[kcchiefs6465]

Well that sounds rather familiar.