Urgent: your help is needed to keep an innocent mother out of jail

[Anti Federalist]

Legal Defense Fund Information:

h/t to KC Indy.


NOTE:

In the most recent post where I listed the Legal Defense Fund link, it turns out the link was bad. I corrected it in the orignal post, but if anyone missed it, the correct link to the fund is:

http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund

Thanks to any and all who have (or are planning to) donate. It appears the fund has hit double the original goal - they're over $53,000 right now - but have a hunch the tab is going to come to more than that in the end. So every little bit helps.

While we're at it, here's the link for the Shaneen Allen Billboard Project: http://www.nj2as.com/event-1741868

And the Fully Informed Jury Association's outreach project for Shaneen Allen: http://www.nj2as.com/event-1734159


Thanks!
:)


Activism bump!

This is Shaneen Allen and her two young boys:

https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10443172_594793780636344_5727132658220104368_o.jpg


If you're reading this and care to donate a few bucks to help keep this young woman out of a cage, here's the link to her legal defense fund:

http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund


Or if you prefer to send a direct donation via snail mail, it can be sent to her attorney's office:

Evan F. Nappen Attorney at Law PC
21 Throckmorton Avenue
Eatontown, NJ 07724
C/O Shaneen Allen LDF

(In the memo portion of the check write: Shaneen Allen Legal Defense Fund.)


If you know any Second Amendment supporters, or for that matter anyone who has a sense of common decency, please pass this along.



Free Shaneen Allen!

William Norman Grigg

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/free-shannen-allen/

Philadelphia resident Shaneen Allen is a 27-year-old single mother who works two jobs to provide for her two children. Acting on the wise advice of a relative she bought a gun, took a gun safety course, and obtained official permission to exercise her innate right to self-defense. However, she made the mistake of crossing from Pennsylvania into a different tax jurisdiction called New Jersey, which is ruled by a different criminal clique through a different set of arbitrary edicts.

After being stopped by a costumed revenue farmer for violating one of New Jersey’s manifold official restrictions on the right to travel, Shaneen made the tragic mistake of being entirely candid when asked if she had any weapons in her possession. As a result she has been charged with the second-degree felony of “unlawful possession” of the means of self-defense. She faces the prospect of three years in a cage and the loss of her children.

The officer who abducted Shaneen actually admitted that she was being punished for her honesty. The same admission was made by the judge at her arraignment. Despite the fact that Shaneen has no criminal record, and clearly displayed no criminal intent, Atlantic County Prosecutor Jim McClain is refusing to offer her entry into a diversionary program that would allow her to avoid prison.

“When law and morality contradict each other,” wrote Frederic Bastiat, “the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law.” Shaneen Allen has never broken the law in any sense; the edict that she ignorantly violated has no moral validity. Her case offers infuriating, albeit redundant, proof of the maxim that the only thing governments “make” are criminals out of innocent people, and corpses out of living human beings.

[Anti Federalist]

Honest Gun-Owning Mom Busted In NJ Could Face 3 Years In Prison

http://www.my9nj.com/story/25996007/nj-gun-permit-problems

Atlantic County, New Jersey (My9NJ) -

27 year-old Shaneen Allen wanted to protect her family. She took a gun safety course, applied for and was granted a concealed carry permit and she purchased a gun.

“One of my family members, he thought it was appropriate for me to get one because I’m a single mother and I have two children and I work two jobs and I work late and getting up at that time of night I got robbed twice last year and he felt the need for me to get my license to protect me and my kids,” Allen explained.

However, while Allen, from Philadelphia, was covered to carry a gun in Pennsylvania, she made the mistake of crossing into New Jersey with the weapon and now she's facing a mandatory minimum of three-years in jail.

Allen said that she didn't know her permit didn't apply to New Jersey so when she was stopped for a minor traffic offense she told the police about her gun and her permit to carry. In this case, being honest may have cost her.

“The judge tried to tell me that telling the truth messed me up, my life up and the cop said the same thing. Me opening my mouth and speaking out he said I’m one out of ten people that spoke up and was honest and that got me in trouble,” she said.

Allen was charged with unlawful possession of a weapon and possession of hollow-point bullets which were in the gun. Under New Jersey gun laws, the illegal possession of a gun is a second-degree felony which holds a minimum sentence of three-years in prison.

Allen’s Attorney Evan Nappen feels that the judge doesn't have a lot of discretion in this particular case.

“We’re talking about a law-abiding, licensed person who did nothing wrong. She is now facing three-years minimum mandatory, where the judge has no discretion, in state’s prison,” he said.

Allen has no criminal record and only owned the gun for a week. So far the Atlantic County Prosecutor has denied her entry into a diversionary program that would allow her to avoid jail time.

The case is still moving forward but the question remains, will New Jersey’s tough gun laws take a young woman who wanted protection from criminals and instead force her to become one?

[Anti Federalist]

Now, here's what happens next:

1 - This young woman, trying to do everything right, with no criminal record at all, will go to prison.

2 - She will lose her children.

3 - She will more than likely suffer abuse in prison.

4 - She will never hold another decent job again.

5 - She is, in fact, fucked.

Try and get a NJ jury to nullify and acquit on gun case.

You have a better chance of seeing God.

AmeriKa.

[Anti Federalist]

DO NOT TALK TO COPS

Does that include lying to them AF?

You're fucking right it does, when the answer is a simple NO.

When the cop asks: "You got any drugs or weapons in the car?" you fucking say NO!

They are legally allowed to lie to us in order to trip us up and prosecute us on our own words.

[presence]

DO NOT TALK TO COPS

Does that include lying to them AF?

You're fucking right it does, when the answer is a simple NO.

When the cop asks: "You got any drugs or weapons in the car?" you fucking say NO!

They are legally allowed to lie to us in order to trip us up and prosecute us on our own words.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwYBshAScmE&feature=kp

[DamianTV]

John Adams once said:

“It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt
and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished.

But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen
will say, ‘whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no
protection,’ and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that
would be the end of security whatsoever.”

Do NOT talk to Cops. They are NOT Officer Friendly, regardless of what their badge says or the False Authority they hide behind.

[devil21]

Now, here's what happens next:

1 - This young woman, trying to do everything right, with no criminal record at all, will go to prison.

2 - She will lose her children.

3 - She will more than likely suffer abuse in prison.

4 - She will never hold a another decent job again.

5 - She is, in fact, fucked.

Try and get a NJ jury to nullify and acquit on gun case.

You have a better chance of seeing God.

AmeriKa.

You forgot #6. Go on public assistance programs so she has to rely on the same people that destroyed her life for her survival.

[tod evans]

Here is the POS DA;

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/pressofatlanticcity.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/99/e991daa2-b118-11e1-86d0-0019bb2963f4/4fd170391c372.preview-300.jpg

[aGameOfThrones]

http://blog.tstc.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/safe_kids-300x157.jpg

[jmdrake]

She's black. Will Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stand up for her?

http://wwor.images.worldnow.com/images/4184915_G.jpg

[Henry Rogue]

Ignorance is an excuse, there is precedence. 45,000 new bullsh!t laws a year no one could possibly know them all.
http://research.lawyers.com/ignorance-of-the-law-may-be-an-excuse.html

[jmdrake]

Ignorance is an excuse, there is precedence. 45,000 new bullsh!t laws a year no one could possibly no them all.
http://research.lawyers.com/ignorance-of-the-law-may-be-an-excuse.html

That's true. Depending on how the law is written, it might require that you have some knowledge not only that you are doing something but that what you are doing is wrong. That said, what really needs to happen here is jury nullification. I wish I was independently wealthy and had 1 million to spare. I would run TV ads throughout this jurisdiction pointing out the idiocy of this particular prosecution and the right of a jury to interpret not only the facts, but the law, as they see fit and acquit convictions of unjust laws with the hope of affecting the jury pool. That said, what she needs more than anything is publicity. Sadly she likely won't get it as showing a black woman being persecuting by out of control gun control is not a story the PTB wants to go national.

[phill4paul]

http://i.imgur.com/XwzGTA9.jpg

I'm not even going to go into the irony of her having a gun for self-defense only to be brutalized by the system for having it.

[Anti Federalist]

She's black. Will Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stand up for her?

I'll not be holding my breath in expectation.

[mrsat_98]

Try and get a NJ jury to nullify and acquit on gun case.

You have a better chance of seeing God.

AmeriKa.

The out on this case is make the jury see god. Jury are subject to their oath as well as 18 USC 201 so is the judge, cop and prosecutor. If you don't believe me ask your self how I dropped someone off at the hospital with their teeth knocked out screaming what did you hit me for, drove of and left them thier and did not get prosecuted for it.

[Anti Federalist]

I refer you to Post #3


That's true. Depending on how the law is written, it might require that you have some knowledge not only that you are doing something but that what you are doing is wrong. That said, what really needs to happen here is jury nullification. I wish I was independently wealthy and had 1 million to spare. I would run TV ads throughout this jurisdiction pointing out the idiocy of this particular prosecution and the right of a jury to interpret not only the facts, but the law, as they see fit and acquit convictions of unjust laws with the hope of affecting the jury pool. That said, what she needs more than anything is publicity. Sadly she likely won't get it as showing a black woman being persecuting by out of control gun control is not a story the PTB wants to go national.

[Superfly]

3 felonies a day...

Might be a low estimate now.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

EVERYONE is a criminal. The government is just a bit more passive aggressive about it than Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. They don't just blatantly drag you out of your home and throw you in prison for no clear crime, they just pin some bullshit tax law on you. You didn't pay enough of your extortion fees 6 years ago, so now 10 years of prison for tax evasion.

[Anti Federalist]

EVERYONE is a criminal. The government is just a bit more passive aggressive about it than Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. They don't just blatantly drag you out of your home and throw you in prison for no clear crime, they just pin some bullshit tax law on you. You didn't pay enough of your extortion fees 6 years ago, so now 10 years of prison for tax evasion.

Give it time comrade.

Once the full surveillance network is in place, then you'll see these scofflaws brought to justice.

Just a matter of catching them.

[limequat]

EVERYONE is a criminal. The government is just a bit more passive aggressive about it than Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. They don't just blatantly drag you out of your home and throw you in prison for no clear crime, they just pin some bullshit tax law on you. You didn't pay enough of your extortion fees 6 years ago, so now 10 years of prison for tax evasion.

The Nazis didn't either.

[limequat]

The liberty movement really needs to come to this woman's defense. Imagine 100 white dudes with AR15s camped out at the courthouse Bundy Ranch style.
This poor woman was working 2 jobs to feed her kids. She got a weapon to protect her family. Is this not the pinnacle of personal responsibility? I'm sure she could have quit her jobs and lived off of food stamps. She could have depended on 911 for personal protection (don't laugh, stay with me). But she chose to not to. She is one of us.

Lawyers or guns???

[Dr.3D]

My mother used to get pretty upset when I would kid her and say, "It's not against the law unless you get caught." Now I'm starting to wonder if my kidding was more true than I thought it was. If there is no way to know all of the laws, then perhaps it really isn't against the law unless you get caught.

[HOLLYWOOD]

hah hah... Cutting in on "Law Enforcement's" crime syndicate. Hey, that's our job to protect/defend/control aka Cutting in on our 6 figure salaries and pensions and benefits. New Jersey government, a Circle Jerk of spewing totalitarianism. When seconds count... cops are minutes, if not hours away...

27 year-old Shaneen Allen wanted to protect her family. She took a gun safety course, applied for and was granted a concealed carry permit and she purchased a gun.
“One of my family members, he thought it was appropriate for me to get one because I’m a single mother and I have two children and I work two jobs and I work late and getting up at that time of night I got robbed twice last year and he felt the need for me to get my license to protect me and my kids,” Allen explained.

Below is government hypocrisy at it's finest... government agencies left and right are purchasing Hollow Point Ammo(Starting in 2003, orders of 50 million (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=04b57bb1d5593580801d11cabce68c0c&_cview=0) and 225 million (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=04b57bb1d5593580801d11cabce68c0c&_cview=0) .40 S&W hollow point ammunition totaling 275 million rounds were purchased. After the expiration of the five year contracts in 2008, ICE purchased an additional 575 million rounds of .40 S&W hollow point ammunition with two separate orders (200 million (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=60bd8fe2747d8c0b198772a83b776a3d&_cview=0) and 375 million (https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=0a00766970a40393b64e82a7849eecb8&_cview=0)). Now, with the expiration of the 2008 contract, ICE has ordered a maximum of 450 million hollow-point rounds over the next five years.)... but for the mundane, it's completely illegal. Classic double standard of the Soviet Union Marxism and the "idiocracy" that keeps empowering the lying state of dictators.

Allen was charged with unlawful possession of a weapon and possession of hollow-point bullets which were in the gun. I thought Congress passed the law to carry your Concealed Carry from state to state without persecution from the Socialist-Marxists? OH WAIT...
Under New Jersey gun laws, the illegal possession of a gun is a second-degree felony which holds a minimum sentence of three-years in prison.Bill died after passing the House back in 2011... Harry 'SCUMBAG' Reid once again at work blocking freedom...

http://kwout.com/cutout/c/8h/52/ukn_bor.jpg

House Approves (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/16/house-to-vote-on-concealed-firearm-permit-bill/)bill, H.R. 822, Concealed Firearm Permit Bill | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/16/house-to-vote-on-concealed-firearm-permit-bill/)

[limequat]

Ok, how does one go about setting up a chip-in or donation?

[limequat]

Here's her lawyer:

http://www.evannappen.com/uploads/1/0/8/0/1080251/1381787547.jpg

[Philhelm]

Infuriating.

[acptulsa]

And you bought the lie that the entire culture of New Jersey was built around the goal of protecting idiots! Silly mundanes...

[Pericles]

Infuriating.

That it is, especially if she was really stopped for DWB.

[Lindsey]

To be honest, this happens a lot. I don't know too many people from SE PA, who doesn't know not to take their guns into NJ. Not saying it's right. I'm just wondering how anyone can live here and be oblivious to this.

[donnay]

Here is the POS DA;

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/pressofatlanticcity.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/99/e991daa2-b118-11e1-86d0-0019bb2963f4/4fd170391c372.preview-300.jpg

DA = Dumb Ass

[Weston White]

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/pressofatlanticcity.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/99/e991daa2-b118-11e1-86d0-0019bb2963f4/4fd170391c372.preview-300.jpg


There was funky Billie Chin and little Sammy Chong
He said, here comes the big boss, let's get it on
We took the bow and made a stand
Started swaying with the hand
The sudden motion made me skip
Now we're into a brand new trip

[Anti Federalist]

Ok, how does one go about setting up a chip-in or donation?

Yes, by all means, this...I would happily take part

[jmdrake]

I refer you to Post #3

Okay. I just had a stupid crazy idea. What this woman needs is mad publicity. Could we somehow get the gun lobby to shame the civil rights hucksters into actually doing something about this case? Maybe if Alex Jones had her on his show with Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America? Then call out Larry Pratt of the NRA to do something? If she got interviewed on Fox News and they started calling out Jackson and Sharpton? Maybe a money bomb for her legal defense fund? I don't know. But we've got to do something. This isn't just a tragedy, it's an opportunity. She could be the "Rosa Parks" of the gun rights movement. Remember, Rosa Parks was not the first black woman in Montgomery to be arrested for not giving up her seat. She was just one with a personal story that couldn't be attacked.

[jmdrake]

The liberty movement really needs to come to this woman's defense. Imagine 100 white dudes with AR15s camped out at the courthouse Bundy Ranch style.
This poor woman was working 2 jobs to feed her kids. She got a weapon to protect her family. Is this not the pinnacle of personal responsibility? I'm sure she could have quit her jobs and lived off of food stamps. She could have depended on 911 for personal protection (don't laugh, stay with me). But she chose to not to. She is one of us.

Lawyers or guns???

Yep. ^This. If anyone from the C4L is listening, if you asked me for money for ^this cause I would donate.

[DamianTV]

Music Video - This Is What Happens When You Call The Cops


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IlY9C6pzxKc

[Anti Federalist]

Okay. I just had a stupid crazy idea. What this woman needs is mad publicity. Could we somehow get the gun lobby to shame the civil rights hucksters into actually doing something about this case? Maybe if Alex Jones had her on his show with Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America? Then call out Larry Pratt of the NRA to do something? If she got interviewed on Fox News and they started calling out Jackson and Sharpton? Maybe a money bomb for her legal defense fund? I don't know. But we've got to do something. This isn't just a tragedy, it's an opportunity. She could be the "Rosa Parks" of the gun rights movement. Remember, Rosa Parks was not the first black woman in Montgomery to be arrested for not giving up her seat. She was just one with a personal story that couldn't be attacked.

Call in to the AJ show...anybody?

[Anti Federalist]

Okay. I just had a stupid crazy idea. What this woman needs is mad publicity. Could we somehow get the gun lobby to shame the civil rights hucksters into actually doing something about this case? Maybe if Alex Jones had her on his show with Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America? Then call out Larry Pratt of the NRA to do something? If she got interviewed on Fox News and they started calling out Jackson and Sharpton? Maybe a money bomb for her legal defense fund? I don't know. But we've got to do something. This isn't just a tragedy, it's an opportunity. She could be the "Rosa Parks" of the gun rights movement. Remember, Rosa Parks was not the first black woman in Montgomery to be arrested for not giving up her seat. She was just one with a personal story that couldn't be attacked.

Call in to the AJ show...anybody?

[Pericles]

Okay. I just had a stupid crazy idea. What this woman needs is mad publicity. Could we somehow get the gun lobby to shame the civil rights hucksters into actually doing something about this case? Maybe if Alex Jones had her on his show with Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America? Then call out Larry Pratt of the NRA to do something? If she got interviewed on Fox News and they started calling out Jackson and Sharpton? Maybe a money bomb for her legal defense fund? I don't know. But we've got to do something. This isn't just a tragedy, it's an opportunity. She could be the "Rosa Parks" of the gun rights movement. Remember, Rosa Parks was not the first black woman in Montgomery to be arrested for not giving up her seat. She was just one with a personal story that couldn't be attacked.

Let's get on this.

[jmdrake]

Call in to the AJ show...anybody?

I'll call Alex Jones. Hopefully I can get through today. But we also need someone to call Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh. Someone needs to get Rand Paul to make a statement about this story as well. I sent a link to Drudge too.

[Anti Federalist]

Activism bump

[Anti Federalist]

If their was ever case for jury nullification it is this.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Poor woman. Land of the Free my asshole. Well, I guess the gun laws are coming back around to their racist roots. This outta be pointed out repeatedly as well. So many innocent people in the inner cities who skew black who are disproportionately hurt by the Drug War non-sense, who then are punished for defending themselves from its effects via Gun Confiscatory / Prohibition laws. THATS RACIST!

[ChristianAnarchist]

I'll donate...

[Anti Federalist]

I see my fanboi downvoted another thread...

[heavenlyboy34]

Hmm. I feel freer now knowing this nogoodnika is off teh streetz. 'Murica, fuck yeah.

[CCTelander]

Now, here's what happens next:

1 - This young woman, trying to do everything right, with no criminal record at all, will go to prison.

2 - She will lose her children.

3 - She will more than likely suffer abuse in prison.

4 - She will never hold another decent job again.

5 - She is, in fact, fucked.

Try and get a NJ jury to nullify and acquit on gun case.

You have a better chance of seeing God.

AmeriKa.


Well, that's "freedom" for you in the land of the fee and the home of the slave.

'Murica. Fuck yeah!

[Mani]

I would donate to this.

[RonPaulMall]

To be honest, this happens a lot. I don't know too many people from SE PA, who doesn't know not to take their guns into NJ. Not saying it's right. I'm just wondering how anyone can live here and be oblivious to this.

Because she is a young black woman who works two jobs, never owned a gun before, and is about as far removed as you can get from the culture of white hunters, gun owners, and liberty types that familiar with such things?

I'd also just add that there is thing called prosecutorial discretion. The prosecutor in this case wasn't forced to charge her. The decision to prosecute was a choice that the prosecutor made, and he needs to be held morally accountable for his decision. This is no different than that case out West where the prosecutor chose to file charges and send a dying man to prison for medical marijuana. They like to pretend that they have no choice in the matter, but the truth is they have absolute discretion.

[Anti Federalist]

Bump...

[tod evans]

Because she is a young black woman who works two jobs, never owned a gun before, and is about as far removed as you can get from the culture of white hunters, gun owners, and liberty types that familiar with such things?

I'd also just add that there is thing called prosecutorial discretion. The prosecutor in this case wasn't forced to charge her. The decision to prosecute was a choice that the prosecutor made, and he needs to be held morally accountable for his decision. This is no different than that case out West where the prosecutor chose to file charges and send a dying man to prison for medical marijuana. They like to pretend that they have no choice in the matter, but the truth is they have absolute discretion.

And this is why I keep harping about making these cocksuckers publically accessible!

Their name, photo and home address must be public knowledge.

Letting slime such as this hide behind unlisted numbers and "need to know" legislation is why they think they can keep it up...

If "they" draw a check from the tax coffers then "they" must be accessible to the public that pays their salary.....

And if "they" don't like it then "they" can get a real job!

[Seraphim]

The first line nails it. The rest is wrong.

Do NOT lie. You open yourself up to perjury charges.

The below video shows the way to do it; "I do not answer questions", "I refuse to answer that question".



DO NOT TALK TO COPS

Does that include lying to them AF?

You're fucking right it does, when the answer is a simple NO.

When the cop asks: "You got any drugs or weapons in the car?" you fucking say NO!

They are legally allowed to lie to us in order to trip us up and prosecute us on our own words.

[Anti Federalist]

The first line nails it. The rest is wrong.

Do NOT lie. You open yourself up to perjury charges.

The below video shows the way to do it; "I do not answer questions", "I refuse to answer that question".

You're not sworn in or under oath, so a perjury charge would be tough.

Now, they can nail for "lying to an officer".

But they would still have to prove that you lied.

"Oh, that, I completely forgot about it."

But, I'm for whatever is effective at keeping people out of prison, the hospital or morgue.

So, do whatever works.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

You're not sworn in or under oath, so a perjury charge would be tough.

Now, they can nail for "lying to an officer".

But they would still have to prove that you lied.

"Oh, that, I completely forgot about it."

But, I'm for whatever is effective at keeping people out of prison, the hospital or morgue.

So, do whatever works.

the not answering any questions route is probably better imo you can't lie if you don't even answer

[56ktarget]

The law is the law.

[KCIndy]

The law is the law.

Oh, for God's sake. It was the "law" when Jews were herded into cattle cars in Nazi Germany. Any time the "law" conflicts with basic human morality, the "law" is wrong.

And right now we're talking about a decent, hard working mother getting torn away from her kids and thrown into a cage, all because she wanted to protect the family she loved.

I can't stand this. I CAN'T STAND IT ANY MORE!!

So please take your trolling somewhere else for just a bit. Please? Pretty please??

[56ktarget]

Im not the one saying it. Ron paul said this nation was founded upon the "rule of law". Im just staying consistent.

[KCIndy]

Okay, I'll quit grousing and start doing.


According to a Fox News article today, Ms. Allen's attorney of record is Evan F. Nappen.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/17/philly-mother-hopes-for-leniency-from-new-jersey-judge-on-gun-charges/


A quick Google search shows an attorney of the same name in Eatontown, NJ. Frankly, I hope the guy is better at the law than at building web sites, because his isn't too confidence inspiring... but....

http://www.evannappen.com/

I wrote to him to determine if he was indeed Ms. Allen's attorney and to inquire whether she has set up a legal defense and/or family support fund.


I also found what purports to be a legal defense fund for Ms. Allen set up through the GoGetFunding.com website, but I can not - repeat, I can NOT confirm this was actually set up by her:

http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund

Although it was linked through from a Facebook page that was also supposedly set up to promote her legal defense:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Shaneen-Allen-Legal-Defense-Fund/594457397336649

Since I'm not a Facebook person, I have no idea how hard it would be to set up a scam account on that thing. I don't want to promote something here only to find out it's a scam, but I really and truly DO want to help this young lady.


If the attorney writes back, I'll post it here immediately.

[KCIndy]

UPDATE:


Well, I'll have to give Mr. Nappen props for being fast. He just responded to my email with the following:



Evan Nappen, Esq.

8:16 PM (0 minutes ago)

to me
Here is Shaneen's legal defense fund where you may make a donation :


http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund


Thanks!

www.evannappen.com



So apparently the GoGetFunding website is legit.

The next step is up to us.

[Anti Federalist]

Im not the one saying it. Ron paul said this nation was founded upon the "rule of law". Im just staying consistent.

That earned you another red bar...

ETA - Somebody must have felt bad for you...

[tod evans]

Chipped in a couple of bucks...

[Anti Federalist]

I'll throw in $100.

[limequat]

I'm in for a few bucks

[limequat]

The donation site lets you enter a "name" for your donation that it posts on the site. I used my username. If I was smarter (just occured to me) I would have put "RonPaulForums" or "RandPaul2016" or something.

[Root]

The law is the law.
-rep
I don't ever remember voting on, or agreeing to this law.

[limequat]

If anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together has forgotten: the concept of the rule of law is that it is applied EQUALLY.

[56ktarget]

-rep
I don't ever remember voting on, or agreeing to this law.
Wow fail. I guess the constitution doesn't apply either because you didn't "vote" on it? Nice try, but your arguments are getting worse and worse.

If anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together has forgotten: the concept of the rule of law is that it is applied EQUALLY.
Who says it isn't?

[limequat]

Wow fail. I guess the constitution doesn't apply either because you didn't "vote" on it? Nice try, but your arguments are getting worse and worse.

Who says it isn't?

Shaneen Allen? It's perfectly legal to for her to carry in Pennsylvania. It's illegal for people in NJ to carry. The very fact that she was arrested by men with guns ... for having a gun ... shows that there is no rule of law.

[heavenlyboy34]

Wow fail. I guess the constitution doesn't apply either because you didn't "vote" on it? Nice try, but your arguments are getting worse and worse.


Actually, no it doesn't. Please read "No Treason: The Constitution Of No Authority" by Lysander Spooner.

[Root]

Wow fail. I guess the constitution doesn't apply either because you didn't "vote" on it? Nice try, but your arguments are getting worse and worse.

Who says it isn't?
The con-stitution is a list of rules for the government, which they don't abide to anyway. No, I didn't agree to it either and see no reason why I should be bound (slave) to people's bad decisions made 100's of years before I was born.

[limequat]

Any chance of getting this on the front page "top activist efforts"?

[limequat]

...

[Anti Federalist]

Any chance of getting this on the front page "top activist efforts"?

Yes, this...

[Anti Federalist]

Im not the one saying it. Ron paul said this nation was founded upon the "rule of law". Im just staying consistent.

So are going to donate to help out with this woman's legal defense?

Or do you think she should go to prison?

[Mani]

The donation site lets you enter a "name" for your donation that it posts on the site. I used my username. If I was smarter (just occured to me) I would have put "RonPaulForums" or "RandPaul2016" or something.

Thx for the advice. Just did that. $100 on behalf of RPF.

[limequat]

Thx for the advice. Just did that. $100 on behalf of RPF.

Saw it, awesome!

I'm reaching out to my gun nut contacts, hoping they'll do the same on ar15.com

[ChristianAnarchist]

Donated... Thanks for the link.

[DamianTV]

Wow fail. I guess the constitution doesn't apply either because you didn't "vote" on it? Nice try, but your arguments are getting worse and worse.

Who says it isn't?

Well, both correct and incorrect.

The US was defined as a Republic with Traces of Democracy. We dont get to vote on everything. We are supposed to have Representatives that do said voting for us. The intent was to prevent people from voting on things that only serve self interests. However, the system is definitely no longer working as our Representatives do not represent us any longer.

In a Democracy, people have direct control over the Govt and everything Govt does. This is where voting on Laws is enabled, but also has a problem. Once people figure out that they can vote themselves fund from the public coffers, this Democracy will consume itself. Democracies are also notorious for saying only the majority of any select group has rights, meaning that if a group thinks they are the majority, they have a valid authority to take away the Rights of the minority group.

The Constitution, Bill of Rights, and concept of a Republic are intended to create a Balance between the Govt and the People. One person alone can not hold a Govt accountable, but a majority can. Other side is that a Govt operating with the concent of the governed is granted the Authority as a permission to hold a single individual responsible for actions deemed unlawful. What we have today is not a Republic but a Plutocratic Oligarchy. The power of Govt resides with a few individuals who do not listen to the needs of those they govern. They look out for themselves and themselves alone.

Next issue: every Law that is passed does not get 100% support of every citizen. Now just because a person did not vote for that Law doesnt mean that person is no longer expected to abide by that Law. In a balanced society, this works pretty well, not perfect, but well enough that society can survive. The situation we have today, the Law is abusive. None the less, those same Laws expect everyone to abide by them, even the abusive ones.

In order to maintain that critical balance of power between Govt and the People, not all Laws are considered valid, even if they were passed. The Limits of these Laws is defined by the Constitution. One such limitation that isnt applicable to this case would be the Direct Unapportioned Tax. Direct Taxes are limited to being Direct Apportioned, or Indirect and Unapportioned. Taxes on Alcohol vs Income Tax. And well, we all know how that turned out in the end. Point still remains that a Law that exceeds the powers granted to Govt by the Constitution are supposed to be considered Invalid. And it happens a lot more than people think. A Federal Judge just ruled that Californias Death Penalty is Unconstitutional, thus Invalid and does NOT have to be abided by. Many such Limitations exist. Ex Post Facto: Retroactive Laws. I cant pass a Law today for something you did yesterday, then hold anyone accountable for it. Burden of Proof. Habeus Corpus. This list of Limits is quite long. Of course, our Govt no longer abides by ANY Limitations to its power, and damn near EVERYTHING is considered a Crime.

What is really at stake here isnt whether or not the victim of the Cops actions as he applied his interpretation of the Law were voted on by that individual, by you, or by me, but the Constitutionality of said Law, which is where a Law can be deemed Invalid because it violates the Limitations of the Powers of Govt when Govt operates with the concent (permissions) of the Governed as a whole.

This isnt intended as a Rant, but a minor correction that can be heavily expanded on. We all know the Cops are very often in the wrong and even more rarely held accountable for their violations of the Laws they apply. Feel free to expand on the idea in a manner that Balances the power. A generalized idea of balance is easy, but when it gets down to the nitty gritty specifics of specific situations, that generalized idea of Balance is a bit harder to see clearly; cant see the Forest through "all the damn Trees".

The "Just-Us" System.

[mad cow]

Tried to donate,three times with a credit card without joining paypal and failed. :(

[Anti Federalist]

Tried to donate,three times with a credit card without joining paypal and failed. :(

You could send a check directly to the attorney:

Evan Nappen
21 Throckmorton Ave.
Eatontown, NJ 07724

[DevilsAdvocate]

This seems so insane to me. At every step of this process there was someone with the chance to stop it. The police officer, with a good head on his shoulders and a sense of morality. The judge, the jury, the prosecutor, the mayor, all of them human beings with a sense of right and wrong. Every single person that had the power to stop this can recognize that this woman is not any sort of threat and that the whole situation is a mistake.

And yet the process marches on towards it's insane goal.

[limequat]

This seems so insane to me. At every step of this process there was someone with the chance to stop it. The police officer, with a good head on his shoulders and a sense of morality. The judge, the jury, the prosecutor, the mayor, all of them human beings with a sense of right and wrong. Every single person that had the power to stop this can recognize that this woman is not any sort of threat and that the whole situation is a mistake.

And yet the process marches on towards it's insane goal.

Cops: "I don't make the rules, tell it to the judge."

Prosecutor: "I want to appear tough on crime. I'm gonna throw the book at this woman. Nobody will care. She's black."

Judge: "My hands are tied, I have no discretion here"

[phill4paul]

Cops: "I don't make the rules, tell it to the judge."

Prosecutor: "I want to appear tough on crime. I'm gonna throw the book at this woman. Nobody will care. She's black."

Judge: "My hands are tied, I have no discretion here"

Jury: "This is my chance to be a petty tyrant."

[Anti Federalist]

Any chance of getting this on the front page "top activist efforts"?

Mods, can we make this so, after the Amash moneybomb is over?

[Anti Federalist]

Any chance of getting this on the front page "top activist efforts"?

Mods, can we make this so, after the Amash moneybomb is over?

[Carson]

DO NOT TALK TO COPS

Does that include lying to them AF?

You're fucking right it does, when the answer is a simple NO.

When the cop asks: "You got any drugs or weapons in the car?" you fucking say NO!

They are legally allowed to lie to us in order to trip us up and prosecute us on our own words.

I'm not sure the lying part is legal.

It seems the concept was sold to us on television shows before it became something done on the street with any regularity. I'd like to think some of the best policeman out there know how to use the truth to their favor.

Once I was ask by an officer if I had any weapons I could hurt him with. The truthful answer would have been no. Live and learn.

[KCIndy]

Tried to donate,three times with a credit card without joining paypal and failed. :(

I've had the same problem for two days running, mad cow. And I'm actually a PayPal member. I can log in at PP, but when I try to go through the funding site I keep getting a "failed password" notice... I don't know if it's PayPal's fault or if it's the way the funding site is linking to PP, but it's beginning to piss me off... :(

So, I'm going to do as AF suggested and send a snail mail check to the attorney's office... namely:



You could send a check directly to the attorney:

Evan Nappen
21 Throckmorton Ave.
Eatontown, NJ 07724

[limequat]

Almost $2000 already. I see a few names from Liberty sites!

[KCIndy]

Activism bump!

This is Shaneen Allen and her two young boys:

https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10443172_594793780636344_5727132658220104368_o.jpg


If you're reading this and care to donate a few bucks to help keep this young woman out of a cage, here's the link to her legal defense fund:

http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund


Or if you prefer to send a direct donation via snail mail, it can be sent to her attorney's office:

Evan F. Nappen Attorney at Law PC
21 Throckmorton Avenue
Eatontown, NJ 07724
C/O Shaneen Allen LDF

(In the memo portion of the check write: Shaneen Allen Legal Defense Fund.)


If you know any Second Amendment supporters, or for that matter anyone who has a sense of common decency, please pass this along.

[Anti Federalist]

Can we please get this to the activism front page?

[Anti Federalist]

Question:

Is she still in prison awaiting trial?

[limequat]

I would hope she's out on bond...

[limequat]

Sent this email to her lawyer:

Mr. Nappen,
There are a number of us at ronpaulforums.com that are very concerned about your client Shaneen Allen. Many of us have contributed to her legal fund.
I was hoping you would be so kind as to give us an update on her status. Is she out on bond? Is there anything we can do help besides more donations to the LDF?

Thank you for your time, and thank you for defending 2nd Amendment rights!
<name redacted>

[limequat]

Here's the phone number for the office of the prosecutor: 609-909-7800

Give 'em a call and ask why they want to ruin 3 innocent lives (mother and 2 young kids). Maybe they would also like to no-knock raid a preschool?

[KCIndy]

Here's the phone number for the office of the prosecutor: 609-909-7800

Give 'em a call and ask why they want to ruin 3 innocent lives (mother and 2 young kids). Maybe they would also like to no-knock raid a preschool?


<You must spread some reputation around before giving it to limequat again>


Great idea! I think I'll give them a call tomorrow.

And for those who call, an excellent question to ask is why the prosecutor is deliberately blocking all attempts to let this case go to Pre-Trial Intervention (PTI) and instead is actively pushing for prison time for Ms. Allen?

Read more about the idiot prosecutor's actions here:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/382961/gun-madness-state-line-charles-c-w-cooke


...But the aggressive manner in which county prosecutors have pursued a conviction is little short of bizarre. “The prosecutor has complete discretion in this case,” Nappen explains. “He could drop the charges. He could downgrade the case and send it to municipal court to be treated as a misdemeanor.” Alas, he has done no such thing, instead doing everything in his power to maximize the likelihood of incarceration. New Jersey has a program called “Pretrial Intervention,” which is designed, Nappen contends, for “circumstances exactly like Allen’s.” PTI, its website confirms, is intended to provide “defendants, generally first-time offenders, with opportunities for alternatives to the traditional criminal justice process of ordinary prosecution.” Those “alternatives” involve avoiding jail and having one’s conviction record scrubbed after a certain period of time. Allen applied for the program, and was quickly approved. But prosecutors refused to sign off, agitating for jail time instead.

[KCIndy]

Question:

Is she still in prison awaiting trial?


I'm not 100% sure, but it appears that she is out at the moment. (I'm hoping limquat's email query of Ms. Allen's attorney will inform us for sure)

I'm basing my assumption on this YouTube video of a news report about Ms. Allen's plight and the insane actions of the prosecutors who feel the need to throw her into a cage:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOtsICRki04

Since they're interviewing her "after the fact" I'm hoping it means she's on on bail or ROR or something.


Limequat, thanks for checking into this for us!

[tod evans]

Justice will not be found in their courts...


Good luck with trying this case in "The Newz"...

[Anti Federalist]

Mods:

Could we get two things here,

1 - A front page placement?

2 - A change in the headline maybe to something like "Urgent: your help is needed to keep an innocent mother out of jail" or something like that?

[KCIndy]

Mods:

Could we get two things here,

1 - A front page placement?

2 - A change in the headline maybe to something like "Urgent: your help is needed to keep an innocent mother out of jail" or something like that?


Ditto, agreed and Seconded!!

[limequat]

Good video...

The host indicates that he'd like to see the governor step up and do something about this.

Good luck with that. Governor of NJ: Corrupt Chris Christie.
The lint-licking prosecutor James McClain was appointed by none other than Chris Christie!
http://galloway.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/governor-nominates-james-p-mcclain-for-county-prosecutor

If Christie is still considering a 2016 run, this just became a national issue. Mr. Christie, why do you hate black people???

Now for the salt in the wound, this scum guzzler McClain cannot be voted out of office. There is absolutely no recourse, other than to try to get a liberty Governor in office and have them appoint a new prosecutor. WTF, NJ. DIAF.

Now, would one our competing 2016 candidates, be willing hold Christie's feet to the fire over this?
Chris Christie's appointee is running roughshod over legal CCW holders. Christie needs to answer for this.

[limequat]

^^

Just noticed that was my post # 1776. I feel pretty good about that.

[Teenager For Ron Paul]

Did anyone else think of this



Article. IV.

Section. 1.

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

[tod evans]

Now for the salt in the wound, this scum guzzler McClain cannot be voted out of office.

This is one reason I keep calling for all public employees names and addresses to be available to the public..

Folks like this blowhard may not be able to be voted out but they can damn-well be run out.

Don't let public "officials" hide!

[Anti Federalist]

bump

[Anti Federalist]

I flagged my own post.


Mods:

Could we get two things here,

1 - A front page placement?

2 - A change in the headline maybe to something like "Urgent: your help is needed to keep an innocent mother out of jail" or something like that?

[CaseyJones]

done

[osan]

Evan is my personal lawyer. He's a good guy, though last I saw him he needed to get his hands out of the donut box.

The "diversionary program" to which the text refers is called "PTI" - Pre-Trial Intervention. When they know you're not a bad guy, they put you in PTI. If you have no trouble for one year, the charges are withdrawn and you're clean as a whistle. The prosecutors in NJ are absolutely notorious for denying PTI. In fact, it often seems that the better fit one is for it, the less likely they are to get it. Those pricks want notches in their posts. They are criminals of the lowest and most despicable variety.

[TomtheTinker]

Wish I still had cash to spare this is the type of thing liberty folk should really get behind. This beautiful woman represents everything this nation was meant to produce.. a strong, independent, self sufficient person taking care of her own. Now she gets to lose her life & liberty because of some bull shit law that represents all that is currently destroying this country and the ideals that made it special.

Government in its current form is meant by design to suppress people like me, you and her of ever being able to carve out a meaningful and prosperous existence. Only if more people would take their heads out of their asses and realize this fact. Please help this lady if you are able..Its us vs them and she needs to know she is not alone.

[TomtheTinker]

^^

Just noticed that was my post # 1776. I feel pretty good about that.

this whole thread is full of posts that deserve +1 for you.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to limequat again.

[limequat]

^ Thank you sir!

[Acala]

Never mind

[Anti Federalist]

Never mind

What?

[Contumacious]

She's black. Will Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stand up for her?

http://wwor.images.worldnow.com/images/4184915_G.jpg

Unfortunately those fucks do not support the right to defend your life.

.

[KCIndy]

Evan is my personal lawyer. He's a good guy, though last I saw him he needed to get his hands out of the donut box.



I'm glad someone here has personal knowledge of the attorney. I hope he's willing to go all-out for this young lady. The thought of her being torn away from her kids and put into prison for YEARS because of these feckless self-serving jackals is literally sickening to me.

[Root]

Local radio station is running a poll on this woman. 94% think she should not be jailed.

http://nj1015.com/should-philadelphia-mother-get-leniency-for-legal-gun/

[Pericles]

Moar coverage of the case here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/07/22/shaneen-allen-race-and-gun-control/

[Anti Federalist]

Bump

[KCIndy]

If you're reading this and care to donate a few bucks to help keep this young woman out of a cage, here's the link to her legal defense fund:

http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund


Or if you prefer to send a direct donation via snail mail, it can be sent to her attorney's office:

Evan F. Nappen Attorney at Law PC
21 Throckmorton Avenue
Eatontown, NJ 07724
C/O Shaneen Allen LDF

(In the memo portion of the check write: Shaneen Allen Legal Defense Fund.)


If you know any Second Amendment supporters, or for that matter anyone who has a sense of common decency, please pass this along.


Activist bump.

No, I'm not letting go of this one. This case crosses over a line. I get aggravated, irritated and even outraged by other stuff we read here on a daily basis. But this? To my way of thinking, the situation with Ms. Allen lies in the realm of true and sickening evil.

Watch this space, as they say, for more info.

And in the meantime, if you can spare a few bucks, PLEASE consider donating to her legal fund, either through the gogetfunding.com link or just cut a check to her attorney with the notation it's for the Shaneen Allen Legal Defense Fund.

[acesfull]

Hi Folks

The draconian gun laws in nazijersey need to be changed yesterday. This is a clear example of a law abiding citizen being turned into a criminal by the system.
Also goes to point, "never speak to LE" never agree to any searchers, or seizures of your property.. Remain silent at all cost, being honest and talking will be much more costly then remaining silent.
Nazijersey has no provision in its state constitution recognizing the 2A of the US Constitution. As far has nazijersey is concerned the 2A does not exist.
I for one hope this case does not make it to court however if it should then this would be a perfect time for jury nullification.
My small donation is going in the mail tomorrow morning.

My .02

Best regards
Acesfull

[Anti Federalist]

Welcome aboard Aces.

Bump...

[limequat]

Over 5k now.

[Anti Federalist]

Bump

[Anti Federalist]

Mom Tells N.J. Officer She Has a Gun; Faces Prison for Gun Charge

By Brett Snider, Esq. on July 28, 2014 11:19 AM

http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2014/07/mom-tells-nj-officer-she-has-a-gun-faces-prison-for-gun-charge.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Blotter+(FindLaw+Blotter)

A single mom from Philadelphia is facing serious prison time for volunteering to a New Jersey officer at a traffic stop that she had a licensed handgun in her car.

Unfortunately for Shaneen Allen, 27, her Pennsylvania concealed carry permit isn't recognized in New Jersey, and she was arrested and charged with "unlawful possession of a weapon and armor penetrating bullets," reports Philadelphia's WCAU-TV. The incident occurred last October, but Allen has a court date set for August 5.

Why is the Garden State being so hard on this Philly mom?

Concealed-Carry Permit Doesn't Travel

What many gun owners like Shaneen Allen don't know is that there is no legal obligation for a state to honor out-of-state concealed-carry permits. According to the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action, New Jersey doesn't recognize handgun permits from any other state. That means despite having a legal carry permit for her Bersa Thunder .380 handgun in Pennsylvania, Allen had no legal right to carry the same weapon into New Jersey.

Some states require that licensed handgun holders inform an officer immediately upon being detained that they have a firearm. Pennsylvania law doesn't require proof of legal permit for a weapon unless lawfully demanded by an officer.

Neither does New Jersey.

So by speaking out upon being pulled over, Allen may have shot herself in the foot.

Illegal Ammunition

According to WCAU, Allen's handgun was allegedly found loaded with hollow-point bullets, which are strictly regulated in New Jersey. In the Garden State, this special type of ammunition cannot be possessed legally outside private property. If this ammo is being transported, it must be held in a locked container other than the glove compartment, and it must not be loaded in a firearm.

Allen's attorney told WCAU that she purchased the gun "roughly a week before her arrest" after being robbed twice in 2013.

Mandatory Minimums

Allen is facing a potential three-year prison sentence because of the mandatory minimums set for New Jersey's gun offenses, which were recently amended by the Graves Act.

Because of these laws, Allen faces a minimum of three years in prison if convicted.

The mother of two was also denied a chance to participate in the state's Pre-Trial Intervention program, which could have reduced her charges and allowed for probation and/or community service.

This situation leaves Allen more or less at the mercy of harsh gun laws, and the general ignorance of their application.

[limequat]

LDF pushing 10k now...

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

i got my gun registration right here http://pearlsofprofundity.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/second-amendment-rifleman-1a.jpg

[KCIndy]

Activism bump!

If you're reading this and care to donate a few bucks to help keep this young woman out of a cage, here's the link to her legal defense fund:

http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund


Or if you prefer to send a direct donation via snail mail, it can be sent to her attorney's office:

Evan F. Nappen Attorney at Law PC
21 Throckmorton Avenue
Eatontown, NJ 07724
C/O Shaneen Allen LDF

(In the memo portion of the check write: Shaneen Allen Legal Defense Fund.)


If you know any Second Amendment supporters, or for that matter anyone who has a sense of common decency, please pass this along.




Here's the phone number for the office of the prosecutor: 609-909-7800

Give 'em a call and ask why they want to ruin 3 innocent lives (mother and 2 young kids). Maybe they would also like to no-knock raid a preschool?


New Jersey governor Chris Christie: 609-292-6000
http://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact/

[KCIndy]

Looks like someone has started a petition for Ms. Allen:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/freedom-for-shaneen-allen

...although it looks like it hasn't gained much traction so far. :(

[KCIndy]

//

[KCIndy]

Gads, I hate making phone calls.

I have called the prosecutor's office regarding this case with no luck. Got shunted off into voicemail hell. :(

I had more luck calling governor Christie's office. The woman answering the call refused to say if the governor had any plans to intervene, but at least she did offer to make a note of the call and said it would be passed along to the governor's attention. (Yeah, I know. It probably got shitcanned, but at least they were polite about it, which was more than I can say for the prosecutor's office.)

Since Chris Christie is likely planning a presidential run, granting Shaneen Allen a pardon would play well with his base of Republicans and moderate Democrats. I know the messages just get an "uh-huh" from the lackeys who take the calls, but if ENOUGH people were to call, the squeaky wheel might actually get some grease.

Has anyone else called?

Hey, I really, truly *HATE* making phone calls. If I can do it, you can do it! :)


New Jersey governor Chris Christie: 609-292-6000
http://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact/



Give it a shot.

[KCIndy]

Hey, I really, truly *HATE* making phone calls. If I can do it, you can do it! :)


New Jersey governor Chris Christie: 609-292-6000
http://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact/



Give it a shot.


Has anyone else called?

Or (as I have wondered from time to time) am I an idiot for even trying?

[rpfocus]

Transaction ID: 2G703528UW0480118

[KCIndy]

Transaction ID: 2G703528UW0480118

+Rep and many thanks!

[KCIndy]

Has anyone else called?

Hey, I really, truly *HATE* making phone calls. If I can do it, you can do it! :)


New Jersey governor Chris Christie: 609-292-6000
http://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact/



Give it a shot.



Anyone? :confused:

Legal Defense Fund:
http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund

Or "snail mail" c/o her attorney:

Evan F. Nappen Attorney at Law PC
21 Throckmorton Avenue
Eatontown, NJ 07724
C/O Shaneen Allen LDF

+Reps for all those who do anything to help! :)

[KCIndy]

//

[mosquitobite]

Donated. Thanks for the bump!

[tod evans]

Judge denies motion to dismiss case against Philly mom arrested for legal gun in NJ

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/05/judge-denies-motion-to-dismiss-case-against-philly-mom-arrested-for-legal-gun/?intcmp=obnetwork

A New Jersey judge denied a motion to dismiss charges Tuesday against a Philadelphia mother who mistakenly entered New Jersey, where she was stopped for a traffic violation and found in possession of a handgun loaded with hollow-point bullets.

Shaneen Allen, 27, who is legally permitted to carry a concealed firearm in Pennsylvania, was pulled over in New Jersey's Atlantic County after making an unsafe lane change in the early morning hours of Oct. 1. She told the officer she had a .380 Berse Thunder handgun during the traffic stop.

Superior Court Judge Michael Donio also denied a motion to overturn a decision not to allow Allen to participate in a pretrial intervention program to avoid jail time.

Allen rejected a prosecutor's offer to serve 3 1/2 years in prison, her attorney, Evan Nappen, told FoxNews.com.

"That's exactly what should be the solution here," Nappen said, referring to the intervention program. "So we're looking forward to that jury trial."

A trial date has been set for Oct. 6, said Nappen, who feels his client may find more leniency from jurors.

"I sure do, it's an incredibly sympathetic case that shouldn't have to go to trial," he said. "But I'm confident that 12 ordinary people who understand the injustice here and will correct it."

Allen, who has no prior criminal record, told FoxNews.com last month that she's very concerned about the future of her young children, Niaire, 10, and Sincere, 3.

"I'm very much worried because I have two kids who depend on me," Allen said. "And I'm doing this all by myself."

Allen said she acquired the gun legally just a week prior to her arrest. She was headed to Atlantic City, N.J., in the early-morning hours to prepare for her son’s birthday party, which was being held three days later.

Allen purchased the gun for protection after being robbed twice in the past year, she said, adding that she never even fired it and feels somewhat snake-bitten by the entire ordeal.

“It’s definitely a freak thing,” she said. “I was trying to do a good thing and it turned out so bad — and just like that. I don’t know how to explain it, I really don’t.”

According to Nappen, potential jurors could invoke jury nullification, a constitutional doctrine allowing juries to acquit defendants who are technically guilty, but don't deserve to be punished. It can apply in all states, but attorneys are generally not permitted to introduce the concept to jurors.

[Mani]

Judge denies motion to dismiss case against Philly mom arrested for legal gun in NJ

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/05/judge-denies-motion-to-dismiss-case-against-philly-mom-arrested-for-legal-gun/?intcmp=obnetwork

A New Jersey judge denied a motion to dismiss charges Tuesday against a Philadelphia mother who mistakenly entered New Jersey, where she was stopped for a traffic violation and found in possession of a handgun loaded with hollow-point bullets.

Shaneen Allen, 27, who is legally permitted to carry a concealed firearm in Pennsylvania, was pulled over in New Jersey's Atlantic County after making an unsafe lane change in the early morning hours of Oct. 1. She told the officer she had a .380 Berse Thunder handgun during the traffic stop.

Superior Court Judge Michael Donio also denied a motion to overturn a decision not to allow Allen to participate in a pretrial intervention program to avoid jail time.

Allen rejected a prosecutor's offer to serve 3 1/2 years in prison, her attorney, Evan Nappen, told FoxNews.com.

"That's exactly what should be the solution here," Nappen said, referring to the intervention program. "So we're looking forward to that jury trial."

A trial date has been set for Oct. 6, said Nappen, who feels his client may find more leniency from jurors.

"I sure do, it's an incredibly sympathetic case that shouldn't have to go to trial," he said. "But I'm confident that 12 ordinary people who understand the injustice here and will correct it."

Allen, who has no prior criminal record, told FoxNews.com last month that she's very concerned about the future of her young children, Niaire, 10, and Sincere, 3.

"I'm very much worried because I have two kids who depend on me," Allen said. "And I'm doing this all by myself."

Allen said she acquired the gun legally just a week prior to her arrest. She was headed to Atlantic City, N.J., in the early-morning hours to prepare for her son’s birthday party, which was being held three days later.

Allen purchased the gun for protection after being robbed twice in the past year, she said, adding that she never even fired it and feels somewhat snake-bitten by the entire ordeal.

“It’s definitely a freak thing,” she said. “I was trying to do a good thing and it turned out so bad — and just like that. I don’t know how to explain it, I really don’t.”

According to Nappen, potential jurors could invoke jury nullification, a constitutional doctrine allowing juries to acquit defendants who are technically guilty, but don't deserve to be punished. It can apply in all states, but attorneys are generally not permitted to introduce the concept to jurors.

not permitted?????

WTF!

[Lucille]

Balko: Prosecution of Shaneen Allen moves forward
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/08/07/prosecution-of-shaneen-allen-moves-forward/


A couple of weeks ago, I wrote about Shaneen Allen, a single mother from Philadelphia who was arrested for driving through New Jersey with a handgun. Allen had a permit for her gun in Pennsylvania, but New Jersey doesn’t recognize Pennsylvania gun permits. Despite the fact that Allen volunteered that she was in possession of the gun during her traffic stop, she was still arrested and charged with a felony. According to her attorney, she is eligible for a diversion program for first-time offenders that would avoid a felony conviction and mandatory 42 months in prison. But for reasons he has yet to articulate, New Jersey District Attorney Jim McClain has refused to allow her to take advantage of that program.

Now, New Jersey Judge Michael Donio has denied Allen’s request to have the charge dismissed.


The words common sense were mentioned quite a bit during Shaneen Allen’s hearing yesterday in Atlantic County Superior Court.

Allen, 27, cried for a moment in the hallway with her son Naiare and his father after a judge denied her motion to dismiss weapons charges filed against her in October and refused to overturn a prosecutor’s decision to deny her entry into a first-time-offender diversion program.

So Allen walked back into court, turned down a plea deal that would have given her a 3 1/2-year sentence and decided to go to trial in October, hoping a jury would use some common sense and not send a working mother of two to prison for not knowing New Jersey’s gun laws.

Yes, Allen broke the law. But she didn’t use her gun to harass, intimidate or threaten anyone. She didn’t shoot anyone. Her crime was driving across a state border. And even for that crime, she turned herself in. Now, barring an act of jury nullification, her life is about to be ruined. Her young children are about to be without parents for a critical part of their lives. If Jim McClain can use his prosecutorial discretion in a case like this, you have to wonder why prosecutors have discretion at all.

And this quote from a gun control advocate is as heartless as it is clueless:


“Fortunately, the notoriety of this case will make it less likely Pennsylvanians will carry concealed and loaded handguns in New Jersey, thereby making them and the Garden State safer from gun violence,” said Bryan Miller, executive director of Heeding God’s Call, a faith-based movement to prevent gun violence.

The people responsible for the gun violence in New Jersey are not residents of bordering states who have gone through the trouble of obtaining a legal permit in their home states. The people responsible for gun violence in New Jersey don’t volunteer to police that they’re carrying a weapon. And the people responsible for the gun violence in New Jersey are not going to be deterred by a story about a single mom sent off to prison for an honest mistake. Sending Shaneen Allen to prison will ruin Shaneen Allen’s life. It will also ruin the lives of her children. And that is all it will do.

[GunnyFreedom]

not permitted?????

WTF!

This is true.

I am working one friend to put jury nullification into the Juror's Oath. :)

[Mani]

This is true.

I am working one friend to put jury nullification into the Juror's Oath. :)

That's the type of REAL change we need.

[heavenlyboy34]

That's the type of REAL change we need.

I wish FIJA had the resources to teach all potential jurors what they need to know-and the lawyers/judges won't tell them.

[kcchiefs6465]

not permitted?????

WTF!
Every state but New Hampshire.

[kcchiefs6465]

Four stars?

[jjdoyle]

"A trial date has been set for Oct. 6..."

Do we know/have anybody on the forums in the area?

If not, we should see if we can find any local liberty people in the area to maybe canvas the circus (courthouse) on October 6th. Jury Duty usually has the jurors arrive at 8:00 AM, but we would try and verify the times for this. And I know in my area, many show up early, but the courthouse won't open until 8:00 or 8:30, so the potential jurors are stuck standing around outside the courthouse. So, it might be good if we could have some locals show up and pass out information to the people that have been selected to show up.

Maybe her lawyer could inform us on the best course to make the potential jurors aware of the jury nullification issue.

[Mani]

"A trial date has been set for Oct. 6..."

Do we know/have anybody on the forums in the area?

If not, we should see if we can find any local liberty people in the area to maybe canvas the circus (courthouse) on October 6th. Jury Duty usually has the jurors arrive at 8:00 AM, but we would try and verify the times for this. And I know in my area, many show up early, but the courthouse won't open until 8:00 or 8:30, so the potential jurors are stuck standing around outside the courthouse. So, it might be good if we could have some locals show up and pass out information to the people that have been selected to show up.

Maybe her lawyer could inform us on the best course to make the potential jurors aware of the jury nullification issue.


There are so many issues out there. Regarding the war on drugs, police brutality, and then jury nullification.

That is one issue that just needs education. If there could be a movement just to blast people over and over and over again, so they understood jury nullification. Why should a woman who's done nothing wrong have her life ruined??? If a jury was educated on their options, they could actually help this woman.

I was on jury duty many many years ago, and their was no information or education on how a jury could make a difference. It was more of a cattle call and shuffling cattle to a big room and then off here or there. It would have been a wonderful opportunity to educate and inform.

[kcchiefs6465]

"A trial date has been set for Oct. 6..."

Do we know/have anybody on the forums in the area?

If not, we should see if we can find any local liberty people in the area to maybe canvas the circus (courthouse) on October 6th. Jury Duty usually has the jurors arrive at 8:00 AM, but we would try and verify the times for this. And I know in my area, many show up early, but the courthouse won't open until 8:00 or 8:30, so the potential jurors are stuck standing around outside the courthouse. So, it might be good if we could have some locals show up and pass out information to the people that have been selected to show up.

Maybe her lawyer could inform us on the best course to make the potential jurors aware of the jury nullification issue.
They should be educated on the various 'laws.' Jury tampering is a possible charge depending on their approach and language. FIJA has some good information on the matter but overzealous DAs are a dime a dozen.

A mistrial is a mistrial but if said person who's 'responsible' for that finds themselves arrested it kind of defeats the purpose.

[jjdoyle]

They should be educated on the various 'laws.' Jury tampering is a possible charge depending on their approach and language. FIJA has some good information on the matter but overzealous DAs are a dime a dozen.

A mistrial is a mistrial but if said person who's 'responsible' for that finds themselves arrested it kind of defeats the purpose.

Yeah, if you get the information into their hands before they sign in for jury duty, then that wouldn't be on the lawyer, especially since we are discussing it here. That would just be on a local activist (maybe) showing up to educate people that have been selected for jury duty?
Not sure, that's why a lawyer might be the best one on this to ask on this.

If the people show up at the courthouse, an activist could pass out flyers specifically on jury nullification with examples of it...BUT then I just found this:
"Recently, several courts have indicated that judges also have the right, when it is brought to their attention by other jurors, to remove (prior to a verdict, of course) from juries any juror who makes clear his or her intention to vote to nullify the law. "

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/zenger/nullification.html

Not sure what the route is here......

[kcchiefs6465]

Yeah, if you get the information into their hands before they sign in for jury duty, then that wouldn't be on the lawyer, especially since we are discussing it here. That would just be on a local activist (maybe) showing up to educate people that have been selected for jury duty?
Not sure, that's why a lawyer might be the best one on this to ask on this.

If the people show up at the courthouse, an activist could pass out flyers specifically on jury nullification with examples of it...BUT then I just found this:
"Recently, several courts have indicated that judges also have the right, when it is brought to their attention by other jurors, to remove (prior to a verdict, of course) from juries any juror who makes clear his or her intention to vote to nullify the law. "

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/zenger/nullification.html

Not sure what the route is here......
It's for people to become educated on the route, keep their intentions to themselves, and judge the case for what it is.

Speaking on the matter on philosophical grounds is one thing. Showing up outside of a courthouse must be done with finesse (after all, as if it isn't already obvious, they give not a fuck about the First Amendment except for lip service and when it is their interests to highlight it).

The people do not care and by and large see jury duty as a burden. They dodge it, disregard it, and are uneducated to the point of warranting nothing more than a shaking of one's head. They are petty, 1 in 9 who work work directly for the government, a larger portion work indirectly for the government, and an even larger portion receive benefits from the government. If they are said to be knowledgeable at all on current affairs or politics it is most often a mainstream media propagandist pimp who sold them their views. They get defensive if you challenge them. The judge threatens them.

It is simply indicative of where we truly are. Speak to people you know on the importance of jury duty. I doubt they'll ever send me shit. Though honestly I'd judge the facts and I'd recommend anyone else to do the same. Once they understand the facts, of course.

Not to be a downer. It's just fucked up.

[jjdoyle]

It's for people to become educated on the route, keep their intentions to themselves, and judge the case for what it is.

Speaking on the matter on philosophical grounds is one thing. Showing up outside of a courthouse must be done with finesse (after all, as if it isn't already obvious, they give not a fuck about the First Amendment except for lip service and when it is their interests to highlight it).

The people do not care and by and large see jury duty as a burden. They dodge it, disregard it, and are uneducated to the point of warranting nothing more than a shaking of one's head. They are petty, 1 in 9 who work work directly for the government, a larger portion work indirectly for the government, and an even larger portion receive benefits from the government. If they are said to be knowledgeable at all on current affairs or politics it is most often a mainstream media propagandist pimp who sold them their views. They get defensive if you challenge them. The judge threatens them.

It is simply indicative of where we truly are. Speak to people you know on the importance of jury duty. I doubt they'll ever send me shit. Though honestly I'd judge the facts and I'd recommend anyone else to do the same. Once they understand the facts, of course.

Not to be a downer. It's just fucked up.

I don't disagree with the finesse part, or the rest. Just trying to figure this out, since the system is so completely backwards...
I served on a jury several years back, and really enjoyed it. The trial actually ended in a "hung jury", which many people don't even seem to know THAT's an option. It seems many go back to deliberate on the verdict, and think they must all agree on one side of it (guilty, or not guilty).

On my jury, we had some that basically said, "Look, I don't care what it is, I just want to get out of here. I'll go with whatever."

[Warlord]

Bump for jury nullification

[Anti Federalist]

not permitted?????

WTF!

With a few notable exceptions, NH being one where nullification is specifically protected as a defense, anywhere else is liable to lead to disbarment, and contempt of court charges.

[Acala]

With a few notable exceptions, NH being one where nullification is specifically protected as a defense, anywhere else is liable to lead to to disbarment, and contempt of court charges.

Yup.

[Anti Federalist]

Pray for this woman.

[tod evans]

Pray for this woman.

And curse that POS prosecutor with every other breath!

[presence]

not permitted?????

WTF!

http://www.theweedblog.com/jury-nullification-victory-for-new-jersey-weedman/

A judge in NJ can hold you in contempt of court on the accusation of "jury tampering".

[GunnyFreedom]

been fedbooking it and pushing jury nullification. And mocking NJ for criminalizing informing the jury about it.

[GunnyFreedom]

Using that to push for a statutory requirement in NC to instruct all jurors in jury nullification.

[Anti Federalist]

been fedbooking it and pushing jury nullification. And mocking NJ for criminalizing informing the jury about it.

Hope it does some good.

I have zero hope for this woman as an individual at this point, however.

Christie will sit on his fat ass and do nothing, and getting a jury to nullify a gun prosecution in New Jerkey?...well, you have a better chance of seeing God.

[KCIndy]

Hope it does some good.

I have zero hope for this woman as an individual at this point, however.

Christie will sit on his fat ass and do nothing, and getting a jury to nullify a gun prosecution in New Jerkey?...well, you have a better chance of seeing God.


I agree... the odds really don't look good.

My only thin, slender hope regarding Christie is the fact that he is testing the waters for a presidential run for the '16 election. Giving Shaneen Allen a pardon, or even calling off that asshole prosecutor would play very well with Christie's prospective GOP base nationwide.

That's the reason I've been encouraging people to call. I don't have any illusions that Christie is a generous, benevolent human being, but I'm willing to play on the odds he's a typical conniving ass-kissing politician who can see which way the wind blows in this case.

New Jersey governor Chris Christie: 609-292-6000
http://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact/

I'm at the "throw a Hail Mary" stage at this point.... :(

[KCIndy]

And a bump for the Defense Fund:


Legal Defense Fund:
http://gogetfunding.com/project/shan...l-defense-fund

Or "snail mail" c/o her attorney:

Evan F. Nappen Attorney at Law PC
21 Throckmorton Avenue
Eatontown, NJ 07724
C/O Shaneen Allen LDF

+Reps for all those who do anything to help! :)

[acesfull]

Her Attorney seems to think and I pray that he is correct, that a jury of her peers will find her not guilty.
I will be attending the hearing's. I only wish I were on the jury..
Regards.

Acesfull

[Mani]

Her Attorney seems to think and I pray that he is correct, that a jury of her peers will find her not guilty.
I will be attending the hearing's. I only wish I were on the jury..
Regards.

Acesfull

Keep us updated.

[limequat]

Whoa. Good work guys:

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[Warlord]

Carrying a gun way worse than beating your wife: Column
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/08/10/ray-rice-shaneen-allen-gun-column/13862831/

[Pericles]

Carrying a gun way worse than beating your wife: Column


http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/08/10/ray-rice-shaneen-allen-gun-column/13862831/

That is how you know that you are in left wing la la land.

[Anti Federalist]

MSM in NJ picking up on this.


Shaneen Allen’s gun-carry prosecution: How you can help her

http://nj1015.com/shaneen-allen-how-you-can-help-save-her/?trackback=tsmclip

The New Jersey Second Amendment Society (NJ2AS) is launching a Nationwide effort to save Ms. Allen from a minimum 5 year prison sentence – NOT for committing a crime with a gun, but merely for crossing the border from Pennsylvania into New Jersey with her legally owned gun. She mistakenly thought her PA carry permit was valid in NJ (as it SHOULD be). She made a mistake. She didn’t commit a “gun crime”.

Frank, the President of the Second Amendment Society, joined Dennis and Judi to talk about Shaneen Allen’s case and how you can help support the cause and free Shaneen Allen. You can listen to the interview below.

We are contacting Americans all across the country, as well as Second Amendment and Liberty oriented groups and asking them to contact:

John McLain
Atlantic County Prosecutor’s Office
4997 Unami Boulevard
Mays Landing, New Jersey 08330
(609) 909-7800
www.acpo.org

Governor Christopher Christie
Office of the Governor
PO Box 001
Trenton, NJ 08625
609-292-6000
www://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact

New Jersey Attorney General
John Hoffman
Richard J. Hughes Justice Complex
25 Market Street
P.O. Box 080
Trenton, NJ 08625
(609) 292-8740
www.state.nj.us/lps/

This is extremely URGENT! This young mother is being railroaded into prison by an ambitious prosecutor without a conscience.

[Anti Federalist]

Support Shaneen Allen

Becky Akers

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/support-shaneen-allen/

For those of you as infuriated as I by the State’s abuse of Shaneen Allen, the single mother facing years in prison for mistakenly believing that the People’s Republic of New Jersey would honor her gun-permit from Pennsylvania, we can now support her morally (write the sadists holding this lady hostage) and monetarily.

Boy, but I bet Ms. Allen’s case has really twisted Progressives into knots. Whom to cheer: almighty Leviathan, with its war on serfs uppity enough to protect themselves after the State has demonstrably failed to do so, or the poor, black woman now caught in the beast’s claws? Intriguing we haven’t heard from the Rev. (ahem: exactly what seminary issued his degree?) Al “Bigmouth” Sharpton about Ms. Allen, isn’t it? Indeed, where are any of the “civil rights” crowd?

Meanwhile, please join in me not only in supporting Ms. Allen but in praying that the Lord will defend her and her children from the satanic State.

How long till the revolution?

[KCIndy]

Her Attorney seems to think and I pray that he is correct, that a jury of her peers will find her not guilty.
I will be attending the hearing's. I only wish I were on the jury..
Regards.

Acesfull

Thanks for your post and the information, and special thanks for attending the hearings! It will be good to know there will be someone there whom we can depend up on to relay direct info about the case.

If there was a way to give you a Double-Triple "+REP" I would do it.

And yeah, that's one case where I would love to be sitting in the jury box.

[KCIndy]

MSM in NJ picking up on this.


Shaneen Allen’s gun-carry prosecution: How you can help her

http://nj1015.com/shaneen-allen-how-you-can-help-save-her/?trackback=tsmclip

The New Jersey Second Amendment Society (NJ2AS) is launching a Nationwide effort to save Ms. Allen from a minimum 5 year prison sentence – NOT for committing a crime with a gun, but merely for crossing the border from Pennsylvania into New Jersey with her legally owned gun. She mistakenly thought her PA carry permit was valid in NJ (as it SHOULD be). She made a mistake. She didn’t commit a “gun crime”.

Frank, the President of the Second Amendment Society, joined Dennis and Judi to talk about Shaneen Allen’s case and how you can help support the cause and free Shaneen Allen. You can listen to the interview below.

We are contacting Americans all across the country, as well as Second Amendment and Liberty oriented groups and asking them to contact:

John McLain
Atlantic County Prosecutor’s Office
4997 Unami Boulevard
Mays Landing, New Jersey 08330
(609) 909-7800
www.acpo.org

Governor Christopher Christie
Office of the Governor
PO Box 001
Trenton, NJ 08625
609-292-6000
www://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact

New Jersey Attorney General
John Hoffman
Richard J. Hughes Justice Complex
25 Market Street
P.O. Box 080
Trenton, NJ 08625
(609) 292-8740
www.state.nj.us/lps/

This is extremely URGENT! This young mother is being railroaded into prison by an ambitious prosecutor without a conscience.


Great info!

I've called the local prosecutor's office and Christie's office, but I hadn't thought about the NJ Attorney General.

Maybe... maybe, just maybe if there are enough pissed off people across the country who actually turn up the heat... (and by this I mean actually DOING something rather than sit around grousing and then seeing what's on TV) .....maybe this will be resolved without this young woman seeing the inside of a prison cage.

[limequat]

Great info!

I've called the local prosecutor's office and Christie's office, but I hadn't thought about the NJ Attorney General.

Maybe... maybe, just maybe if there are enough pissed off people across the country who actually turn up the heat... (and by this I mean actually DOING something rather than sit around grousing and then seeing what's on TV) .....maybe this will be resolved without this young woman seeing the inside of a prison cage.

http://somicom.com/media/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/BundyStandoff.jpg

[axiomata]

Rand needs to take his "bromance" to the next level and see what civil rights Cory Booker will stand with him for.

[limequat]

I would LOVE to see Rand get in on this.

As I noted earlier, the the prosecutor was appointed by none other than Chris Christie. In one comment he could appeal to judicial bias against minorities and also call Christie a gun grabber. Win-Win.

[KCIndy]

Well, the wording isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than nothing.


http://www.ammoland.com/2014/08/nj-assemblymen-introduces-shaneens-law-allowing-judges-sentencing-discretion/#axzz3ADHvuPfy


Manasquan, NJ --(Ammoland.com)- New Jersey Republican Assemblyman Dancer has just filed “Shaneen’s Law” which gives Judges full discretion to avoid mandatory jail time and/or give PTI to folks like Shaneen Allen.

Named after Shaneen Allen who has fallen victim to New Jersey insane gun laws that targets law full gun owners, with mandatory minimum sentences for things that are perfectly legal in the rest of free america.

New Jersey residents, please contact your state representatives and ask them to cosponsor this much needed legislation.

The bill is A3608.

The key language reads:

“(3) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection c. of this section to the contrary, the court shall have discretion to impose the mandatory sentence, or pretrial intervention or supervisory treatment pursuant to N.J.S.2C:43-12 et seq., for a violation of subsections b. or c. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 if the court makes a finding on the record that the convicted person:

(a) is an out-of-State resident;
(b) is otherwise permitted by the state in which he is a resident to possess the firearm in the manner under which the conviction arose in this State;
(c) has no known association with a criminal street gang, as defined in section 1 of P.L.2007, c.341 (C.2C:33-29); and
(d) has never been convicted of a crime in this State or any other state, territory or other jurisdiction of the United States.”


But even if it passes, will it be retroactive? Will it help Ms. Allen, or would it only apply to future cases?

[Anti Federalist]

But even if it passes, will it be retroactive? Will it help Ms. Allen, or would it only apply to future cases?

No.

Retroactive laws are only passed to tax and jail us after the fact.

[Anti Federalist]

Daily bump

[KCIndy]

If you're reading this... please help.


Contribute to legal defense:

Legal Defense Fund:
http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund

Or "snail mail" c/o her attorney:

Evan F. Nappen Attorney at Law PC
21 Throckmorton Avenue
Eatontown, NJ 07724
C/O Shaneen Allen LDF


Pick up the phone or write a letter and help keep up the heat:

John McLain
Atlantic County Prosecutor’s Office
4997 Unami Boulevard
Mays Landing, New Jersey 08330
(609) 909-7800
www.acpo.org

Governor Christopher Christie
Office of the Governor
PO Box 001
Trenton, NJ 08625
609-292-6000
www://www.state.nj.us/governor/contact

New Jersey Attorney General
John Hoffman
Richard J. Hughes Justice Complex
25 Market Street
P.O. Box 080
Trenton, NJ 08625
(609) 292-8740
www.state.nj.us/lps/


Most important of all - spread the word. Pass this along. Please.

[KCIndy]

Activist Bump!

[acesfull]

I am really surprised by the lack of media attention regarding this incident. The anti gun state of NJ, is attempting to turn a law abiding Mother of two children into a criminal. Where are the so called black leaders on this? Very surprising that Ms.Allen is not getting more support from the black community.
My.02
Regards

Acesfull

[Anti Federalist]

Lost in the media storm bump.

Will Grigg bump.

Furious About Ferguson? Work to Free Shaneen Allen

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2014/08/furious-about-ferguson-work-to-free.html

Whatever we eventually learn about what happened in the streets of Ferguson, Missouri on August 9, Michael Brown is beyond mortal help. The same is not true of Shaneen Allen, a 27-year-old working mother of two and robbery victim who faces an eleven-year prison term for the supposed offense of carrying a legally licensed firearm.

Like the late Mr. Brown, Allen – a resident of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania -- is an African-American. She has no criminal record, and her case is untainted by allegations that she had committed a violent crime.

In planning to take the case to trial this October, Atlantic County Prosecutor Jim McClain is committing what could be construed as a race-specific violation of due process by seeking prison time: As we will shortly see, a white Pennsylvania resident who committed the same “offense” was given a pre-indictment plea deal involving two years of non-supervised probation. McClain’s proposed “deal” for Allen would have included a mandatory three and a half year prison sentence.


Allen, a medical professional who works two jobs, was victimized by a series of robberies. A concerned relative advised Allen to get a gun to protect herself and her two young children. She purchased a gun, completed a firearms safety course, and obtained official permission from the State of Pennsylvania to exercise her innate right to self-defense. However, she made the mistake of crossing the Delaware River into a different tax jurisdiction called New Jersey, where the ruling political clique is stingier in granting that supposed privilege, and refuses to recognize firearms licenses that are issued by their counterparts elsewhere in the country.

After being stopped by a revenue farmer for violating one of New Jersey’s myriad official restrictions on the right to travel, Allen made the tragic mistake of being entirely candid when asked if she had any weapons in her possession. Rather than being handed an extortion note (more commonly called a “traffic ticket”), she was abducted and charged the second-degree felony of “unlawful possession” of the means of self-defense.


The officer who carried out that abduction told the victim that she was being punished for her honesty. The same admission was made by the judge at her arraignment. Despite the fact that she clearly displayed no criminal intent, DA McClain refused to offer her entry into a diversionary program that would allow her to avoid prison.

McClain, it should be noted, is no stranger to clemency: He found it in what passes for his heart to allow NFL star Ray Rice, who was also accused of a felony, to enter the diversion program, thereby avoiding prison or even significant professional inconvenience.

Granted, Rice’s alleged offense was nothing as serious as carrying a licensed firearm: He committed the relatively venial infraction of beating a woman into unconsciousness in the elevator of an Atlantic City casino.

More at link...

[Anti Federalist]

Since the eruption of Ferguson, Missouri, it has become commonplace for people to say that the revelation of the contemporary police state in all its malignant glory has wrought a measure of redemption out of the violent death of Michael Brown. While not minimizing in any way the necessity of learning why Brown was killed, those who are consumed with a laudable zeal for justice should direct at least some of their energy into the effort to prevent the unwarranted imprisonment of Shaneen Allen.

[Acala]

No.

Retroactive laws are only passed to tax and jail us after the fact.

Generally not. One of the few remaining limitations on government power in the Constitution is the ban on ex post facto laws. Pretty much no overt punishment can be enacted with application to acts that preceded the legislation. BUT some laws impose some pretty serious burdens retroactively on the grounds that they are not punishment. CERCLA would be an example.

[KCIndy]

UPDATE: BILLBOARD PROJECT AND FIJA OUTREACH NOW UNDERWAY IN NEW JERSEY


Brief summation:
The New Jersey Second Amendment Society and the Fully Informed Jury Association are launching a muti-pronged effort to help Shaneen Allen. Read the story below for the details (I've edited in the links they refer to) for a more lengthy explanation, but in short, they're working on a billboard campaign and are trying to get volunteers to pass out FIJA documents in Atlantic County, New Jersey, where Shaneen Allen will be tried in court. That is in addition to attempting to raise funds for Ms. Allen's legal costs, which are undoubtedly going to be astronomical.


http://www.ammoland.com/2014/08/no-victim-no-crime-shaneen-allen-billboard-project/#axzz3BLUNNftX

New Jersey --(Ammoland.com)- As you are probably already aware, the Atlantic County Prosecutor, James P. McClain, has decided to prosecute Shaneen Allen to the fullest extent of the law.

This is in spite of the fact that, when she entered New Jersey with her legally owned, defensive firearm in her purse, she was unaware that her Pennsylvania carry permit was not valid in NJ.

While it can be argued that she should have known, her alleged crime most definitely does NOT rise to the level of a Second Degree felony, carrying a maximum sentence of *TEN* years in prison. With no prior record and no criminal intent, this young mother of two was a prime candidate for pre-trial intervention (PTI).

Indeed, the Director of PTI thought so. However, the prosecutor made her the “generous” offer of three years in prison. She of course turned this “offer” down and is now facing the maximum sentence of ten plus years.

The NJ2AS is fully engaged in helping this young woman to avoid this overly harsh sentence. We have launched a nationwide campaign to inform our fellow freedom lovers across the country of her dire situation. To this end we have joined forces with a number of national rights activists including Mr. Tom Gresham of Gun Talk Radio and Mr. Alan Gottlieb, the Executive Director of the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF). These organizations are among the most activeof the 2A rights groups working for the right to keep and bear arms in New Jersey. Together with the NJ2AS, they are working to raise awareness among their followers about the mistreatment of Ms. Allen.

We are also working to inform the citizens of Atlantic County of this injustice. To that end, we have initiated the NJ Billboard Campaign. (http://www.nj2as.com/event-1741868)

In addition to appearing on various radio shows and podcasts around the country, and the Billboard Campaign mentioned above, the NJ2AS is also working with the Fully Informed Jury Association (FIJA.org) to distribute pamphlets throughout the Atlantic County area, to inform the residents of their rights and responsibilities as citizens and jurors. We need individuals who are willing and able to hand out pamphlets in the area. Proper training will be provided. If you would like to help this woman avoid a long prison term for a simple mistake, please go to the NJ2AS FULLY INFORMED JURY PROJECT event and sign up. (http://www.nj2as.com/event-1734159) We need as many volunteers as possible both for weekdays and weekends.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION ON THE STATUS OF SHANEEN ALLEN AND HOW YOU CAN HELP CLICK HERE! (http://www.nj2as.com/event-1732855)

About:
New Jersey Second Amendment Society – Our mission is to promote the free exercise of Second Amendment rights within the community and Legislature of New Jersey, to educate the community regarding the enjoyable, safe, and responsible use of firearms, and to engender a sense of camaraderie and fellowship among the members and their families. Visit: www.nj2as.com

[John F Kennedy III]

She's black. Will Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stand up for her?

http://wwor.images.worldnow.com/images/4184915_G.jpg

She must not be dark enough for their agendas.

[acesfull]

Since the eruption of Ferguson, Missouri, it has become commonplace for people to say that the revelation of the contemporary police state in all its malignant glory has wrought a measure of redemption out of the violent death of Michael Brown. While not minimizing in any way the necessity of learning why Brown was killed, those who are consumed with a laudable zeal for justice should direct at least some of their energy into the effort to prevent the unwarranted imprisonment of Shaneen Allen.

+111111111111111111

Acesfull

[acesfull]

Since the eruption of Ferguson, Missouri, it has become commonplace for people to say that the revelation of the contemporary police state in all its malignant glory has wrought a measure of redemption out of the violent death of Michael Brown. While not minimizing in any way the necessity of learning why Brown was killed, those who are consumed with a laudable zeal for justice should direct at least some of their energy into the effort to prevent the unwarranted imprisonment of Shaneen Allen.

+111111111111111111

Acesfull

[Mani]

So people are ready to make donations to Darren Wilson, others are ready to march the streets for Michael Brown....But this responsible, honest, hardworking mother is being crucified and no one seems to notice.

[KCIndy]

So people are ready to make donations to Darren Wilson, others are ready to march the streets for Michael Brown....But this responsible, honest, hardworking mother is being crucified and no one seems to notice.

Yeah, that about sums it up.

I've read that the trial is scheduled for October 6. If anyone can afford to donate to the Legal Defense Fund or the billboard/FIJA project, now is the time to do so.

What really makes my skin crawl is the fact that the prosecutor offered her a "deal" of serving THREE AND A HALF YEARS IN PRISON. That's a deal? And now that Ms. Allen has refused, this sadistic, inhuman bastard is pushing for a TEN YEAR sentence if she's convicted.

I don't even know this woman, but I hurt for her and her kids. This is the sort of nightmare one would expect to run into in North Korea. How is this happening here?

http://www.ebony.com/news-views/shaneen-allen-gun-arrest-053#axzz3BWih86UG

Last week, when the judge denied her motion to dismiss charges and refused to overturn the prosecution’s denial of the diversion program, The Philadelphia Daily News reports Allen “cried for a moment in the hallway with her son Naiare and his father” before rejecting a plea deal that would guarantee a 3 ½ year sentence. It is her hope that the jury uses “common sense” when examining the case.


Contribute to legal defense:

Legal Defense Fund:
http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund

Or "snail mail" c/o her attorney:

Evan F. Nappen Attorney at Law PC
21 Throckmorton Avenue
Eatontown, NJ 07724
C/O Shaneen Allen LDF


Billboard campaign:
http://www.nj2as.com/event-1741868

FIJA outreach:
http://www.nj2as.com/event-1734159

[acesfull]

Hi Folks

Her attorney needs to move this case to Federal Court. How can that happen, have his client skip bail and head back to Pa.
Ones back in Pa, go to a local court and take out restraining orders against all branches of NJ law enforcement. Why, for fear of her life.
If the Feds decide to pursue Ms.Allen for jumping her bail in NJ, then her case would be heard in front of a federal judge, and her attorney could argue 2A issues.

The State of NJ, there own Constitution does not even mention the right to keep and bear arms. How in God's name could this woman possibly get a fair trial in a NJ court in a State that does not recognize that a 2A even exist?

In my humble opinion the only chance of freedom for this Mother of two is to have her case moved to the federal court.

My .02

Regards

Acesfull

[Anti Federalist]

I don't even know this woman, but I hurt for her and her kids. This is the sort of nightmare one would expect to run into in North Korea. How is this happening here?

Because we allow it.

[KCIndy]

Because we allow it.

Sadly, you're dead-on correct. :(

Personally, I'm open to just about any idea that might have any real chance at success.

[Anti Federalist]

Sadly, you're dead-on correct. :(

Personally, I'm open to just about any idea that might have any real chance at success.

It won't be any one idea that will provide the silver bullet solution.

It will take many, on numerous fronts, like the Fully Informed Jury Association, for instance, passive protests and active protests like Bundy Ranch.

[KCIndy]

Hi Folks

Her attorney needs to move this case to Federal Court. How can that happen, have his client skip bail and head back to Pa.
Ones back in Pa, go to a local court and take out restraining orders against all branches of NJ law enforcement. Why, for fear of her life.
If the Feds decide to pursue Ms.Allen for jumping her bail in NJ, then her case would be heard in front of a federal judge, and her attorney could argue 2A issues.

The State of NJ, there own Constitution does not even mention the right to keep and bear arms. How in God's name could this woman possibly get a fair trial in a NJ court in a State that does not recognize that a 2A even exist?

In my humble opinion the only chance of freedom for this Mother of two is to have her case moved to the federal court.

My .02

Regards

Acesfull


It's an interesting idea, and something that ought to work in a perfect world... but... I would be amazed if any court in PA would issue restraining orders against law enforcement of any other state. It would be like expecting a cop to arrest another cop. It does happen - but it's incredibly rare.

I would be willing to try anything at this point, though. I have a really bad feeling about this case. The prosecutor and judge will prattle out that stupid line, "No matter what your personal feelings are about this case, no matter how tragic the defendant, I REMIND YOU THAT IF THE FACTS SHOW SHE BROKE THE LAW YOU MUST FIND HER GUILTY!"

I've never understood how juries could fall for that stupid line of reasoning. Based on that sort of insane and twisted logic, there shouldn't be a need for a jury at all.

I'm afraid this woman is going to be tried by a jury of sheep, who will shake their heads uneasily and go bleating off to the nearest paddock after rendering a guilty verdict.


Right now, I'm about ready to create a chip-in to send her to a country with no extradition treaty to the U.S. It might be her only chance.

I hear Vanuatu is pretty nice.

[Anti Federalist]

This is how they keep the politicals in line.

And if Nappen even thinks about bringing up jury nullification, they'll disbar him and haul him off for "contempt" in a heartbeat.

What I predict what will happen is that, once a jury is seated, and Nappen gets a feel for how many sheeple are on it, he'll convince Allen to cop a plea.


It's an interesting idea, and something that ought to work in a perfect world... but... I would be amazed if any court in PA would issue restraining orders against law enforcement of any other state. It would be like expecting a cop to arrest another cop. It does happen - but it's incredibly rare.

I would be willing to try anything at this point, though. I have a really bad feeling about this case. The prosecutor and judge will prattle out that stupid line, "No matter what your personal feelings are about this case, no matter how tragic the defendant, I REMIND YOU THAT IF THE FACTS SHOW SHE BROKE THE LAW YOU MUST FIND HER GUILTY!"

I've never understood how juries could fall for that stupid line of reasoning. Based on that sort of insane and twisted logic, there shouldn't be a need for a jury at all.

I'm afraid this woman is going to be tried by a jury of sheep, who will shake their heads uneasily and go bleating off to the nearest paddock after rendering a guilty verdict.


Right now, I'm about ready to create a chip-in to send her to a country with no extradition treaty to the U.S. It might be her only chance.

I hear Vanuatu is pretty nice.

[KCIndy]

NOTE:

In the most recent post where I listed the Legal Defense Fund link, it turns out the link was bad. I corrected it in the orignal post, but if anyone missed it, the correct link to the fund is:

http://gogetfunding.com/project/shaneen-allen-legal-defense-fund

Thanks to any and all who have (or are planning to) donate. It appears the fund has hit double the original goal - they're over $53,000 right now - but have a hunch the tab is going to come to more than that in the end. So every little bit helps.

While we're at it, here's the link for the Shaneen Allen Billboard Project: http://www.nj2as.com/event-1741868

And the Fully Informed Jury Association's outreach project for Shaneen Allen: http://www.nj2as.com/event-1734159


Thanks!
:)

[Christian Liberty]

This is how they keep the politicals in line.

And if Nappen even thinks about bringing up jury nullification, they'll disbar him and haul him off for "contempt" in a heartbeat.

What I predict what will happen is that, once a jury is seated, and Nappen gets a feel for how many sheeple are on it, he'll convince Allen to cop a plea.

We need more people with guts. I'd never vote "guilty" in the case of any victimless crime. And that includes a situation in which a cop is killed if he was killed while engaging in an aggressive act.

[phill4paul]

This is how they keep the politicals in line.

And if Nappen even thinks about bringing up jury nullification, they'll disbar him and haul him off for "contempt" in a heartbeat.

What I predict what will happen is that, once a jury is seated, and Nappen gets a feel for how many sheeple are on it, he'll convince Allen to cop a plea.

Do we know what district the case will be held in? A separate fund for "Jury Nullification" saturation? Op-eds, letters to the editors, bill boards, ads, local radio interviews. In other words a media campaign about this case and nullification.

[limequat]

I would like to see protests on this. Like at Prosecutor Jim McClain's house. With pitchforks.

[KCIndy]

Do we know what district the case will be held in? A separate fund for "Jury Nullification" saturation? Op-eds, letters to the editors, bill boards, ads, local radio interviews. In other words a media campaign about this case and nullification.


Atlantic County, New Jersey Superior Court. Judge Michael Donio presiding. Atlantic County Prosecutor James P. McClain is the sadist who is demanding Ms. Allen spend years in state penitentiary for the "crime" of not knowing her valid carry permit in Pennsylvania was not worth a piece of used toilet paper in New Jersey.

The New Jersey Second Amendment Association is helping spearhead a drive to put up billboards highlighting the unfairness of the case in Atlantic County, where the jury pool will come from: http://www.nj2as.com/event-1741868

The same organization is working with the FIJA to do Jury Nullification handouts in the area: http://www.nj2as.com/event-1734159

This case is heartbreaking:

http://articles.philly.com/2014-08-07/news/52519315_1_gun-laws-gun-violence-heeding-god


MAYS LANDING, N.J. - The words common sense were mentioned quite a bit during Shaneen Allen's hearing yesterday in Atlantic County Superior Court.

Allen, 27, cried for a moment in the hallway with her son Naiare and his father after a judge denied her motion to dismiss weapons charges filed against her in October and refused to overturn a prosecutor's decision to deny her entry into a first-time-offender diversion program.

So Allen walked back into court, turned down a plea deal that would have given her a 3 1/2-year sentence and decided to go to trial in October, hoping a jury would use some common sense and not send a working mother of two to prison for not knowing New Jersey's gun laws.

"There is no public need to prosecute Shaneen Allen. I'm sure the public is just begging for Shaneen Allen to go to jail," her attorney, Evan Nappen, argued sarcastically to Judge Michael Donio.

Allen, who has no criminal record, was pulled over by New Jersey State Police on Oct. 1 while driving to Atlantic City with the father of her sons. She told the officer that she had a license-to-carry permit in Pennsylvania and had her .380 Bersa Thunder in her pocketbook.

New Jersey does not recognize any other state's license-to-carry permit, and Allen was arrested and charged with unlawful possession of a weapon and possession of hollow-point bullets. She faces a mandatory minimum of 3 1/2 years in prison.

[KCIndy]

http://whatistheconstitution.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/img_53ec1dc58f0c7.jpg

And now that she has turned down the prosecutor's "generous" plea-deal offer of three and a half years in prison, this young lady will likely be sentenced to TEN YEARS IN THE STATE PENITENTIARY if she is convicted. All for owning a legal, licensed gun in a state next door.

This is horribly and insanely unfair.

[Anti Federalist]

'Murika.

[Anti Federalist]

The comments are encouraging.

http://articles.philly.com/2014-08-07/news/52519315_1_gun-laws-gun-violence-heeding-god

[acesfull]

Ms.Allen needs to stay in PA and jump bail.. Have the case moved to federal court, have her attorney argue that the Constitution tramps all the NJ statutes against the 2a. Any law that is unconstitutional is NULL AND VOID.
Or simply cry for jury nullification... Desperate times call for desperate measures...

New Jersey legislators like to trample on the 2A... Now a young Mothers life is in jeopardy, may be they will have the stones to do the right thing..

Regards

Acesfull

[kahless]

http://whatistheconstitution.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/img_53ec1dc58f0c7.jpg

And now that she has turned down the prosecutor's "generous" plea-deal offer of three and a half years in prison, this young lady will likely be sentenced to TEN YEARS IN THE STATE PENITENTIARY if she is convicted. All for owning a legal, licensed gun in a state next door.

This is horribly and insanely unfair.

This is ammunition for every candidate that will be running against Christie in 2016. That SOB should have stopped this and he has not.

Christie should be called out on this for every public appearance. Why not even a grassroots effort to contact as many media outlets as possible about how anti-gun Christie is essentially crucifying a hard working single African American woman for trying to protect her family.

[KCIndy]

The comments are encouraging.

http://articles.philly.com/2014-08-07/news/52519315_1_gun-laws-gun-violence-heeding-god


Even among the complacent sheep who love to spout "well, the law is the law...." this case seems to have touched a nerve. Pushing for YEARS in prison for an honest, hard working, professional, young single woman with kids - who didn't even know she was breaking a law - is apparently a bridge too far.

I don't know whether to be happy that there's apparently still a microscopic shred of common sense among the populace, or deeply discouraged that it took such an insane and egregious abuse of authority to get a minor bleat out of the sheep.

[KCIndy]

This is ammunition for every candidate that will be running against Christie in 2016. That SOB should have stopped this and he has not.

Christie should be called out on this for every public appearance. Why not even a grassroots effort to contact as many media outlets as possible about how anti-gun Christie is essentially crucifying a hard working single African American woman for trying to protect her family.


In every article I've read about this case (and I've read a lot of them) the comments seem to be running 90% + in favor of Ms. Allen. I've even seen a lot of comments that begin with, "I'm in favor of gun control, but...."

The first major politician (Hello, Governor Christie!?!? Are you listening??) who moves in and pushes the prosecutor to drop the case is going to be heralded as a hero, even if he's really just a typical opinion poll following, vote-craving ass kisser. Christie in particular is nuts for not jumping on this, assuming he really does have White House aspirations in 2016. He could use this to try to convince the less educated and naive voter block that he's really a Second Amendment supporter.

And yeah, I would give good money to see Christie bombarded with questions about this case every time he puts in a public appearance. The prosecutor in this case was actually appointed by Chris Christie in the first place. Seems like that would give the gov a certain amount of pull.

[GunnyFreedom]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/29/christie-wont-intervene-yet-in-philly-mother-gun-charge-case/


Christie won't intervene yet in Philly mother's gun charge case
Published August 29, 2014

SEA BRIGHT, N.J. – Gov. Chris Christie says he's going to let the judicial process play itself out before he'll consider intervening in the case of a Pennsylvania woman who faces jail time for carrying a concealed weapon in New Jersey.

More (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/29/christie-wont-intervene-yet-in-philly-mother-gun-charge-case/)

Extremely political answer. In the heat of the moment he implies that he will pardon her if a jury finds her guilty and she is sentenced to prison. Along comes the verdict and she is financially ruined, and he hopes people have forgotten so he can ignore it. Have I ever said how much I hate this man?

[limequat]

Don't look for any help from Christie. The prosecutor, Jim McClain, was APPOINTED BY CHRISTIE.

This issue is not "only" a monumental abuse of state power, it's also a proxy fight for 2016. It's important for all factions of liberty lovers and gun rights activists to stand up for Ms. Allen. It needs to be clear that 1) Christie is a power drunk gun grabbing, fascist and 2) the right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

Rand Paul 2016
For individual rights, 2nd amendment rights, and the rule of law.

[Anti Federalist]

Rand Paul 2016
For individual rights, 2nd amendment rights, and the rule of law.

Well, see, that's the problem.

The law says she MUST go to jail.

But in this case, the law is an ass.

Which is why Jury Nullification is such an important concept, it allows a jury to stop the state cold, even when the law is on the state's side.

[RonPaulIsGreat]

I am Shaneen Allen




but only on the weekends and after had several beers, and various other drugs, and only if I feel like being a naughty girl....

[kahless]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/29/christie-wont-intervene-yet-in-philly-mother-gun-charge-case/



Extremely political answer. In the heat of the moment he implies that he will pardon her if a jury finds her guilty and she is sentenced to prison. Along comes the verdict and she is financially ruined, and he hopes people have forgotten so he can ignore it. Have I ever said how much I hate this man?

What the hell is he and is campaign thinking. This issue and his response could effectively end any chance he has for 2016. I suppose if they are this incompetent he is not really a threat anyway.

Although the subject matter is quite different this is Christie's Willie Horton and he Dukakis.

[KCIndy]

Or simply cry for jury nullification... Desperate times call for desperate measures...






....in this case, the law is an ass.

Which is why Jury Nullification is such an important concept, it allows a jury to stop the state cold, even when the law is on the state's side.


As mentioned earlier, the New Jersey Second Amendment Society together with the Fully Informed Jury Association is asking for volunteers to pass out pamphlets regarding jury rights and responsibilities:

http://www.nj2as.com/event-1734159


I need the help of all our Atlantic County members and supporters and anyone willing to help distribute pamphlets in the area of the Atlantic County Criminal Court Complex. The NJ2AS will be holding a series of meetings (3 or 4) about Juror Rights within Atlantic County. You will only need to attend one of these meetings. These meetings will most likely take no more than 1/2 hour to 45 minutes. We will be working with the FULLY INFORMED JURY ASSOCIATION (FIJA.org), a 501(c)3 educational organization dedicated to Jury Rights.

In many cases involving Second Amendment protected rights, the jurors are misinformed about their right to deliberate using their reason and conscience. It is time that we did our job to help inform jurors of their rights and responsibilities.

FIJA has prepared informative pamphlets that answer questions that jurors may have about their rights under the law, including, but not limited to, jury nullification (for more information go to www.fija.org. They have trained multitudes of civic minded people in how to properly disseminate these materials without running afoul of the law. We will work with them to train interested individuals to distribute these pamphlets in the area of the Atlantic County Criminal Court Complex.

If you are interested in performing both a public service and helping our Society. Please register for this project. Dates and places for the training are still to be determined. I hope to resolve this ASAP. If you know of a venue we can use, please contact me at president@nj2as.com.

Thank you

Frank Jack Fiamingo
President - NJ2AS

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If anyone is close to the Atlantic City area and is interested in participating in this effort, let me know. I will contribute some money for gas.

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[mad cow]

This is ~37minute interview with Shaneen.Good stuff.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZmaovlS-dI&feature=youtu.be

[Anti Federalist]

As mentioned earlier, the New Jersey Second Amendment Society together with the Fully Informed Jury Association is asking for volunteers to pass out pamphlets regarding jury rights and responsibilities:

http://www.nj2as.com/event-1734159

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If anyone is close to the Atlantic City area and is interested in participating in this effort, let me know. I will contribute some money for gas.

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Anybody in the area that wishes to help out, I will do the same, chip in to help you cover gas and expenses.

[limequat]

Well, see, that's the problem.

The law says she MUST go to jail.

But in this case, the law is an ass.

Which is why Jury Nullification is such an important concept, it allows a jury to stop the state cold, even when the law is on the state's side.

The fact that Shaneen Allen was arrested by men with guns for having a gun means that there is no rule of law.
I agree with you though. Stupid law. Moronic prosecutor. Dumbass judge.

Will there be riots in Atlantic City if the jury convicts?

Ask this guy:

http://www.acpo.org/images/mcclain.jpg

Jim McClain
609-909-7800
1201 Bacharach Blvd
Atlantic City, NJ 08401

Then kick him in the nuts

[limequat]

whitehouse petition for clemency

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/justice-shaneen-allen/HbmhDWDk

[KCIndy]

//

[Christian Liberty]

Probably pointless, but I decided to make two comments. Hopefully some people will use some basic logic and come to the same conclusions I did (not likely.)

My first comment:


The only law that should matter here is the 2nd amendment. Or better yet, the non-aggression principle. Since the woman did not harm anyone, every single person who was involved in the enforcement of "the law" is a scumbag, whether it be the cops who arrested her, the prosecutor who is trying to lock her up, or any jury member who votes "guilty" (Ignorance of the HIGHER moral law is no excuse, and carrying a gun is not a sin, let alone an aggressive act) or the judge, all the way up to Chris Christie.
Its only a sick society that would even debate something like this. Moral people do not need government edicts to tell them what is right and wrong. Adults can think for themselves. Sadly, we are in a nation of sheep.

My second comment:

Let's go one step further. Why should she be punished at all? Constitutionally, she didn't violate the law. More importantly, "the law" shouldn't be our standard for what is moral and immoral.

I agree with "the punishment should fit the crime." And since nobody was harmed by her actions (As you correctly point out) nobody has a right to harm her for her actions.
Its disappointing that you think its "reasonable" to even support a fine. Why? It would be far more sensible to fine the cops who arrested her, while their actions were "legal", they actually did harm someone (this woman.) What's more wrong, to harm someone legally, or to violate the law but cause no harm?









I think we should all be leaving these types of comments. Teach people that its completely reasonable and normal not to worship "the law", and that voluntarism is actually a perfectly sane position to hold.

[Christian Liberty]

I'm so tempted to link Larken Rose's "when should you shoot a cop" as well. That would REALLY drive the statists mad. But then, I've already made three comments, s maybe someone else should do it (different name, so it doesn't look like its just me:))

[limequat]

I think the only legal action that the people of NJ could take at this point, would be to initiate a recall of Gov. Chris Christie. He is the only person in this entire debacle that was elected! Cops are hired and the prosecutor was appointed by Christie.

[tod evans]

I think the only legal action that the people of NJ could take at this point, would be to initiate a recall of Gov. Chris Christie. He is the only person in this entire debacle that was elected! Cops are hired and the prosecutor was appointed by Christie.

"Recall" the whole lot of 'em...

http://www.twowheelforum.com/images/smilies/hang.gif Get a rope! :mad:

[osan]

"Recall" the whole lot of 'em...

http://www.twowheelforum.com/images/smilies/hang.gif Get a rope! :mad:

And iron bars.

[tod evans]

And iron bars.

Are pikes okay?

[osan]

whitehouse petition for clemency

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/justice-shaneen-allen/HbmhDWDk

Feh... 'Bammy gwyne be say "fuk'dat black ho'. Let d'bich boin'... she carr'n a gun... Stupid ho' ain't no moozlym."

[osan]

Are pikes okay?

Sure, but mortars and 155s are recommended. That would NOT be a cake-walk.

[KCIndy]

UPDATE:


As anyone who has read this thread is aware, the New Jersey Second Amendment Society has been raising funds in order to erect billboards in the Atlantic City, New Jersey, area where Shaneen Allen will be tried in court for the "crime" of having a firearm in her car. I have donated to the billboard effort, so my name and email address are on the NJ2AS mailing list.

Early today, I got the following email, which contained some information I did not previously know:




From:
Frank Jack Fiamingo <president@nj2as.com>

Dear friends and supporters of the NJ2AS,

You have recently made a donation to the NJ2AS or the NJ2AS Billboard campaign for Shaneen Allen. Due to the generosity of all the donors, we were able to raise more than enough money to pay for the billboards. You should know that your contributions have enabled us to erect *FOUR* billboards around the Atlantic County Criminal Courthouse Complex. They will be up and operational on 9/15/2014.

In speaking with Shaneen, we have discovered that she is having quite a lot of difficulty paying her bills. As you know, she was fired from her position as a phlebotomist due to her arrest. This is part of the price she is being forced to pay for making the mistake of traveling into NJ with her legally owned, defensive firearm and PA carry permit. We would like your permission to use some of the funds collected on her behalf, to give her a check to help pay her bills. Please let me know if you prefer that the contribution you made be used in some other fashion.

Thank you again for your generosity,

Frank Jack Fiamingo
President – NJ2AS


Wow.

I HAD NOT REALIZED THIS BOGUS, BS ARREST HAD COST SHANEEN ALLEN HER JOB.


Of course I don't mind the NJ2AS using some of the cash to help Shaneen. She has two kids, and they need a roof over their heads and they need to eat. In fact, I'm going to be checking about some way to make a direct cash donation to the family to help with the bills.

So to recap, this woman has been arrested for a "crime" that she did not even know she was committing. She was tossed in jail, managed somehow to get bail (probably at enormous expense) and was then fired from her job as a medical technician because she was charged - not convicted, mind, just charged - with breaking a law she did not even know existed. And all this simply because she wanted to protect herself and her small children, and had jumped through every single possible legal hoop to make it happen.

That this is happening to such a dutiful young woman is beyond insane. Beyond despicable.

For all the State apologists out there, for all those who wonder why so many of us look upon the police and "justice" system with contempt, I give you this case. Look upon the prosecution of Shaneen Allen, and wonder no more.


How the hell did this happen? I have a few ideas.

I want to take a moment to give a shout-out to some notable people in this case:

So... Thank you so much, Officer Asshole, for arresting this woman. As a law enforcement officer, you have discretion regarding who is arrested and who is simply given a warning. You, sir... you KNEW what the consequences of this arrest would be. It was clear this young woman was a professional, well educated person who was harming no one. You KNEW when you arrested her rather than give her a warning... you KNEW this was going to wreck her life. You could have stopped this from happening before it ever began. So thank you so much, you portentous, arrogant, boot-licking little government toady. The nightmare this woman's life has become is directly on you.

Persecutor - err... Prosecutor James P. McClain, I can't apply the words "thank you" to you even if they are dripping with sarcasm. How can you demand prison time from this woman, sir? From which corner of your dark, twisted, pathologically sadistic mind did you draw the idea that this was in ANY way serving justice? How can you possibly justify spending thousands of taxpayer dollars to tear this woman away from the small children she so desperately wanted to protect? How can you lock this woman in a cage when she had no intent of doing anything wrong? You had a choice, McClain. Much more of a choice than you ever gave Ms. Allen. Even if you didn't want to drop all charges (which is what you should do) you could have given Shaneen Allen a shot at PTI. Pre Trial Intervention would have meant no jail time and a chance to expunge her record with good behavior. But you actively fought to deny her that opportunity. How revealing that you, as prosecutor, did NOT block it for NFL star Ray Rice. Remember Ray Rice, McClain? The man who beat his wife to the brink of unconsciousness and dragged her off an elevator while they were in Atlantic City? McClain, do you believe that beating a woman unconscious is LESS of a crime than carrying a legally purchased pistol with a carry permit valid in a neighboring state? You, Mr. McClain, are the lowest form of bully and sadist. If you don't like my accusation, then prove me wrong by dropping all charges against Shaneen Allen.


And thank you too, Governor Christie. Thanks for showing your true colors: yellow. One hundred percent coward. Not only were you the one who appointed the sadist McClain, you are the pathetic excuse of a man who sat by when a word from you could have righted a terrible injustice. You could have stopped this with a phone call, and with that call you could have saved a young woman's life as well as countless thousands of taxpayer dollars. But no. You had to sit on the sidelines with a finger in the wind and a thumb up your butt. You decided to hide behind "the system" even though this was such an egregious violation of common sense and human decency that even staunch anti-gun voters felt it was going too far. So thanks again, Mr. Christie, for demonstrating what a disgusting, indecisive lump you really are. You could have turned this issue into a groundswell of support for a White House run. But no. You refused to do the right thing because you weren't sure if it would be popular. So thanks for making it clear, here and now, that your heart holds no decency or human mercy. It's good to know what a feckless bastard you really are.

Go to hell, all three of you.

[Anti Federalist]

I HAD NOT REALIZED THIS BOGUS, BS ARREST HAD COST SHANEEN ALLEN HER JOB.

Just about any felony arrest record will get you fired and unable to work.

Theye set out to destroy this woman, and theye will, before all is said and done.

And not a fuck will be given by Boobus.

This should have people rioting

[Mani]

UPDATE:


As anyone who has read this thread is aware, the New Jersey Second Amendment Society has been raising funds in order to erect billboards in the Atlantic City, New Jersey, area where Shaneen Allen will be tried in court for the "crime" of having a firearm in her car. I have donated to the billboard effort, so my name and email address are on the NJ2AS mailing list.

Early today, I got the following email, which contained some information I did not previously know:




Wow.

I HAD NOT REALIZED THIS BOGUS, BS ARREST HAD COST SHANEEN ALLEN HER JOB.


Of course I don't mind the NJ2AS using some of the cash to help Shaneen. She has two kids, and they need a roof over their heads and they need to eat. In fact, I'm going to be checking about some way to make a direct cash donation to the family to help with the bills.

So to recap, this woman has been arrested for a "crime" that she did not even know she was committing. She was tossed in jail, managed somehow to get bail (probably at enormous expense) and was then fired from her job as a medical technician because she was charged - not convicted, mind, just charged - with breaking a law she did not even know existed. And all this simply because she wanted to protect herself and her small children, and had jumped through every single possible legal hoop to make it happen.

That this is happening to such a dutiful young woman is beyond insane. Beyond despicable.

For all the State apologists out there, for all those who wonder why so many of us look upon the police and "justice" system with contempt, I give you this case. Look upon the prosecution of Shaneen Allen, and wonder no more.


How the hell did this happen? I have a few ideas.

I want to take a moment to give a shout-out to some notable people in this case:

So... Thank you so much, Officer Asshole, for arresting this woman. As a law enforcement officer, you have discretion regarding who is arrested and who is simply given a warning. You, sir... you KNEW what the consequences of this arrest would be. It was clear this young woman was a professional, well educated person who was harming no one. You KNEW when you arrested her rather than give her a warning... you KNEW this was going to wreck her life. You could have stopped this from happening before it ever began. So thank you so much, you portentous, arrogant, boot-licking little government toady. The nightmare this woman's life has become is directly on you.

Persecutor - err... Prosecutor James P. McClain, I can't apply the words "thank you" to you even if they are dripping with sarcasm. How can you demand prison time from this woman, sir? From which corner of your dark, twisted, pathologically sadistic mind did you draw the idea that this was in ANY way serving justice? How can you possibly justify spending thousands of taxpayer dollars to tear this woman away from the small children she so desperately wanted to protect? How can you lock this woman in a cage when she had no intent of doing anything wrong? You had a choice, McClain. Much more of a choice than you ever gave Ms. Allen. Even if you didn't want to drop all charges (which is what you should do) you could have given Shaneen Allen a shot at PTI. Pre Trial Intervention would have meant no jail time and a chance to expunge her record with good behavior. But you actively fought to deny her that opportunity. How revealing that you, as prosecutor, did NOT block it for NFL star Ray Rice. Remember Ray Rice, McClain? The man who beat his wife to the brink of unconsciousness and dragged her off an elevator while they were in Atlantic City? McClain, do you believe that beating a woman unconscious is LESS of a crime than carrying a legally purchased pistol with a carry permit valid in a neighboring state? You, Mr. McClain, are the lowest form of bully and sadist. If you don't like my accusation, then prove me wrong by dropping all charges against Shaneen Allen.


And thank you too, Governor Christie. Thanks for showing your true colors: yellow. One hundred percent coward. Not only were you the one who appointed the sadist McClain, you are the pathetic excuse of a man who sat by when a word from you could have righted a terrible injustice. You could have stopped this with a phone call, and with that call you could have saved a young woman's life as well as countless thousands of taxpayer dollars. But no. You had to sit on the sidelines with a finger in the wind and a thumb up your butt. You decided to hide behind "the system" even though this was such an egregious violation of common sense and human decency that even staunch anti-gun voters felt it was going too far. So thanks again, Mr. Christie, for demonstrating what a disgusting, indecisive lump you really are. You could have turned this issue into a groundswell of support for a White House run. But no. You refused to do the right thing because you weren't sure if it would be popular. So thanks for making it clear, here and now, that your heart holds no decency or human mercy. It's good to know what a feckless bastard you really are.

Go to hell, all three of you.



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Keep us updated.

[acesfull]

you think fifty people showing up at the court house with "jury nullification" shirts will be helpful?

Acesfull

[Anti Federalist]

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[Teenager For Ron Paul]

I guess Democraps won't bother supporting a hardworking black single mom if it *gasp* involves the exercise of her 2nd Amendment right to bear arms...

[KCIndy]

Okay, it's been a while since I posted an update. My laptop died and I'm just now getting back online.

As I mentioned in my last post, the New Jersey Second Amendment Society was able to put up four billboards addressing Shaneen Allen's plight. They donated the remaining leftover cash to Ms. Allen, who has been unemployed since her bogus arrest.

I wrote to Frank J. Fiamingo, the president of the NJ2AS, to tell him I supported the idea of giving the remaining cash to Ms. Allen. I also asked if there was any way make a direct contribution to help pay ongoing expenses such as rent, groceries, etc.

Here is his response:


Thank you for your concern and kindness, Ken. I will get you that information tomorrow.

I met Shaneen for the first time this evening and she is a delightful person. She is a loving mother and her children ADORE her. She is EXTREMELY fearful of what will happen to her family if she is sent to prison, so we will all have to do everything we can to keep her home with her kids.

I know that your help will be appreciated. I believe that her legal defense fund is doing well enough that we can afford to concentrate more on keeping her head above water until this entire horror show is resolved. I am still hopeful that if we pull out all the stops, we can convince Governor Christie to step in and prevent this injustice. I believe that Shaneen has setup a link to be able to accept contributions to her ongoing support until she is back on her feet. I will get that link, email it to you, and I will also display it on our website for others to use.

All the best,

Frank Jack Fiamingo
President – NJ2AS



The link is on the front page of the NJ2AS web site:
http://www.nj2as.com/ (click on the text that says, "Donate Directly to the Shaneen Allen Emergency Fund" underneath the picture of Shaneen and her boys)

Or click here:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=NX2VS29K7VBAW&lc=US&item_name=Shaneen%20Allen&currency_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonH osted

In addition to being unemployed due to this bogus arrest and indictment on felony charges by the sadistic prosecutor, I only recently discovered that Ms. Allen was jailed for 45 days before apparently being able to bail out.

It's not surprising that the bills are piling up.

I've been trying to put myself in her place, to imagine how terrifying it must be to be arrested and jailed for a "crime" I didn't even know I was committing. Losing my job. Not being employable after the prosecutor, intent on "making an example" of me, gets me indicted on felony charges and then offers me a plea deal which would land me in the state penitentiary for three and a half YEARS. Turning down the "deal" and being told the prosecutor would now press for the maximum of over TEN years upon conviction... all this, when I never even intended to break the law. All this after I had jumped through innumerable hoops in order to abide by the law, in fact.

I can't wrap my mind around it. It would be bad enough for a single person, but this woman has two kids who depend on her. I keep thinking about what Mr. Fiamingo wrote: I met Shaneen for the first time this evening and she is a delightful person. She is a loving mother and her children ADORE her. She is EXTREMELY fearful of what will happen to her family if she is sent to prison.

I just donated $100, with an added note that I hoped she could use some of it to take her kids out for some fun and distraction. God knows they're going to need it.


Confirmation Number: 4LT466694V9161316 Placed on Sep 15, 2014
Purpose Shaneen Allen Donation amount $100.00 USD

If you're reading this and can afford it, I urge you to kick in what you can. Even five bucks can make an enormous difference, believe it or not.

Again, these are donations to help with ongoing expenses, NOT the legal fund. As I understand it, 100% of these donations go directly to Ms. Allen and her two young boys to help them cover food, rent, etc:

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=NX2VS29K7VBAW&lc=US&item_name=Shaneen%20Allen&currency_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonH osted

It's amazing how expensive it can be when government wrecks an innocent person's life. :mad:

[limequat]

Pitched in a few bucks:

Confirmation number: 8SX51545E94624532

[Anti Federalist]

Losing my job. Not being employable after the prosecutor, intent on "making an example" of me, gets me indicted on felony charges and then offers me a plea deal which would land me in the state penitentiary for three and a half YEARS. Turning down the "deal" and being told the prosecutor would now press for the maximum of over TEN years upon conviction... all this, when I never even intended to break the law. All this after I had jumped through innumerable hoops in order to abide by the law, in fact.

I'll be sure to print that out, and stuff it right down the fucking throat of the next asshole who tells me the "troops are fighting for my freedom" or some such stupidity.

I'm not able to donate from where I am right now, let me get Mrs. AF over here to donate a few more of our dollars.

[donnay]

Confirmation number: 9E350400LY359072L

[Mani]

Confirmation number: 8HB11806X5532234E

[KCIndy]

Thanks and +Rep for everyone who donated!

I hate to keep pushing this on people, but this case truly gnaws at me. It's the utterly insane injustice of it. I've never seen a case in which someone so completely innocent of any ill intention was so ruthlessly hounded and persecuted.

The good news? All the heat coming down on this prosecutor seems to be having a bit of an effect. I just saw this news story breaking a few hours ago:

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/crime/courts/prosecutor-seeks-time-to-rethink-position-on-shaneen-allen-gun/article_66d1ba80-3d0a-11e4-b97c-2732096e7117.html

Prosecutor seeks time to rethink position on Shaneen Allen gun case

By LYNDA COHEN Staff Writer | Posted: Monday, September 15, 2014 5:30 pm


Atlantic County Prosecutor Jim McClain told a judge his office is reviewing its position in the case of a Philadelphia mother facing prison time for bringing her legally owned gun into New Jersey.

Shaneen Allen, 27, was arrested last year after she was pulled over Oct. 1 on the Atlantic City Expressway in Hamilton Township, and told the state trooper she had her gun and a concealed carry permit with her. She says she did not know it was illegal to bring the gun into New Jersey.

McClain has faced criticism for denying Allen admission into a diversion program that would allow her to complete a program and avoid prosecution. It is a stance the prosecutor has taken in most of these cases, under the state’s strict Graves Act.

“I am presently in the process of reviewing our office’s position on the appropriate resolution of this matter,” McClain wrote in a letter sent last week to Superior Court Judge Michael Donio.

He asked that the case be adjourned for three weeks to allow the review. Donio granted the request.

A trial set for Oct. 6 has now been moved to Oct. 20. A conference to discuss motions and jury selection set for this week has been moved to Sept. 25.

The story goes on to describe some of the previous actions by the prosecutor in other gun cases. This guy is *rabidly* anti-gun. Another case discussed was about some poor guy who was "kidnapped" from work by his friends (they were all in PA) and taken to Atlantic City for a bachelor party. The man had his licensed sidearm with him in Pennsylvania and did not realize he was going to be crossing into New Jersey. His gun was discovered at the casino hotel by a hotel maid. The prosecutor forced him into a three year sentence as a plea deal. (sound familiar?) Luckily in that case, the judge overruled the prosecutor and gave the guy probation. In yet another case, the prosecutor actually filed an appeal against the judge's ruling when the judge sentenced another gun owner to "day reporting" rather than a harsh prison sentence.

This prosecutor is nothing less than a mad dog. He seems to have a berserk reaction to the thought of anyone so much as touching a gun.

And let's keep in mind that is is the same prosecutor who allowed NFL star Ray Rice to walk away with Pre-Trial Intervention for beating his wife unconscious. The guy obviously has something against the idea of people defending themselves.

[Anti Federalist]

Donated $50.00

Confirmation number: 9E350400LY359072L

[KCIndy]

Again, many thanks (and +Rep!) to those who donated.


To recap, Shaneen Allen has had her life wrecked by the felony charges brought against her by the prosecutor. Being jailed for five weeks and having felony charges pending caused her to lose her job. She is a single mom, and the bills are piling up for her and her kids.

Anyone wishing to make a direct donation to help her and her kids can do so here:

http://www.nj2as.com/ This is the home page of the NJ2AS. (click on the text that says, "Donate Directly to the Shaneen Allen Emergency Fund" underneath the picture of Shaneen and her boys)

Or the direct link is:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=NX2VS29K7VBAW&lc=US&item_name=Shaneen%20Allen&currency_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonH osted

ONGOING:

The NJ2AS (New Jersey Second Amendment Society) together with the FIJA (Fully Informed Jury Association) are still asking for volunteers to pass out literature near the Atlantic City courthouse area:


As mentioned earlier, the New Jersey Second Amendment Society together with the Fully Informed Jury Association is asking for volunteers to pass out pamphlets regarding jury rights and responsibilities:

http://www.nj2as.com/event-1734159


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If anyone is close to the Atlantic City area and is interested in participating in this effort, let me know. I will contribute some money for gas.

*

My offer of gas money for anyone who is able to help with this effort still stands. In fact, I might even be able to scrape up enough to buy you some lunch as well. ;)

[Anti Federalist]

Keep up the heat.


Shaneen Allen’s prosecutor might be having second thoughts

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/09/18/shaneen-allens-prosecutor-might-be-having-second-thoughts/

By Radley Balko September 18 at 9:00 AM 

The New Jersey prosecutor who has been pushing a prison sentence for a New Jersey single mother for having a gun in her purse appears to be reconsidering.

Shaneen Allen was arrested in October after admitting to a state trooper during a traffic stop that she was in possession of a gun. Allen, a resident of Pennsylvania, had a legal permit to possess and carry the gun in that state. She says she had simply made a mistake, a plausible explanation given that she volunteered the incriminating information to the cop who pulled her over.

Until now, Atlantic County Prosecutor Jim McClain had been pursuing a felony charge against Allen that would come with a mandatory minimum of three-and-a-half years in prison, despite the fact that he could refer to a diversionary program that would allow her to avoid jail time. Allen has no other criminal record. Now it looks like McClain may be reconsidering.



“I am presently in the process of reviewing our office’s position on the appropriate resolution of this matter,” McClain wrote in a letter sent last week to Superior Court Judge Michael Donio.



He asked that the case be adjourned for three weeks to allow the review. Donio granted the request.


A trial set for Oct. 6 has now been moved to Oct. 20. A conference to discuss motions and jury selection set for this week has been moved to Sept. 25.


Donio previously became the first judge in the state to open up the Graves Act waivers, which record decisions on pretrial intervention concerning these cases. The records are meant to be kept for the attorney general’s review to make sure the law is being applied uniformly.


Local attorney Michael Schreiber argued that if the state can see the records, the defense should be granted the same access. Donio agreed, and opened up three years of decisions. They show that not only do other prosecutors allow for PTI or probation in these cases, McClain’s predecessor also allowed them.



Former Prosecutor Ted Housel liberally applied a normally rare exception in these cases, which allows for parole or pretrial intervention. Housel said in a 2012 memorandum that Atlantic County is unique since tourists who legally own guns often bring them into the state not realizing their permits do not cross state lines.

I posted in July about how Allen’s case raises some important, not-often-discussed issues about race, gun control, and mandatory minimums. It’s also worth pointing out that even putting the volatile race and gun issues aside, this is just a really terrible law. Yes, you should try to know the laws of the states you’re visiting, particularly when it comes to guns. But unless police and prosecutors can show that the owner intended to use the gun to commit a crime, three-plus years in prison is an obscene penalty for an honest mistake that didn’t cause harm to anyone else.

[Lucille]

Prosecutor Drops Prison Threat Against Gun Owner Who Mistakenly Thought Her Pennsylvania Carry Permit Was Good in New Jersey
http://reason.com/blog/2014/09/24/prosecutor-drops-prison-threat-against-g


Good news from Atlantic County, New Jersey: It looks like Shaneen Allen, the Philadelphia gun owner who faced a mandatory minimum sentence of three and a half years for driving across the Delaware River with a pistol in her purse, will escape prison after all. The Press of Atlantic City reports that Atlantic County Prosecutor Jim McClain, who initially refused to approve Allen for a pretrial diversion program, has changed his mind.

McClain cited a memo issued today by acting Attorney General John Hoffman, who told local prosecutors that "imprisonment is neither necessary nor appropriate to serve the interests of justice and protect public safety" in cases like Allen's. "In applying the factors set out in the clarification," McClain said, "I determined that the defendant in this case should be offered the opportunity to be admitted into the Atlantic County PTI [Pretrial Intervention] Program."

Hoffman's memo looks like a face-saving excuse for McClain, who more than a week ago signaled that he was reconsidering his hard-line approach to Allen's case, which had attracted nationwide attention. But if sparing McClain additional embarrassment is what it takes for him to abandon a clearly unjust prosecution, it's a small price to pay. Furthermore, Hoffman's memo should help similarly situated defendants. The Press says "the clarification also means McClain will now review other similar cases that have been denied PTI in the past."

I wondered what a Pretrial Intervention Program (http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/criminal/crpti.htm) was.


The Pretrial Intervention Program (PTI) provides defendants, generally first-time offenders, with opportunities for alternatives to the traditional criminal justice process of ordinary prosecution. PTI seeks to render early rehabilitative services, when such services can reasonably be expected to deter future criminal behavior. The PTI program is based on a rehabilitative model that recognizes that there may be an apparent causal connection between the offense charged and the rehabilitative needs of a defendant. Further, the rehabilitative model emphasizes that social, cultural, and economic conditions often result in a defendant's decision to commit crime.

Simply stated, PTI strives to solve personal problems which tend to result from the conditions that appear to cause crime, and ultimately, to deter future criminal or disorderly behavior by a defendant.

What Are The Benefits of the Pretrial Intervention Program (PTI)?

If PTI is successfully completed, there is no record of conviction and the defendant avoids the stigma of a criminal record.
Early intervention allows rehabilitative services to be provided soon after the alleged offense, in an attempt to correct the behavior that led to the offense.
Many of the costs associated with the formal court process are eliminated through acceptance into PTI.
PTI provides early resolution of a case which serves the interests of the victim, the public and the defendant.
PTI reduces the burden on the court and allows resources to be devoted to more serious criminals.

What are the Conditions for Participation In Pretrial Intervention?

Supervision under the PTI program may average from one to three years. Certain standard conditions are imposed on those accepted into PTI, such as, random urine monitoring, and assessments for fees, penalties and fines. Additional conditions may also be imposed to require the performance of community service, payment of restitution, and submission to psychological and/or drug and alcohol evaluations with compliance to recommended treatment programs.

If a defendant successfully completes all the conditions of PTI, then the original charges are dismissed and there is no record of conviction.

If a defendant does not successfully complete the conditions of PTI, then the defendant is terminated from the PTI program and the case is returned to the trial list.

SMH

[KCIndy]

BREAKING NEWS!!

After taking a lot of heat, the prosecutor has given up his push for prison time for Shaneen and will allow her into the PTI (Pre-trial Intervention) program:


http://reason.com/blog/2014/09/24/prosecutor-drops-prison-threat-against-g




Prosecutor Drops Prison Threat Against Gun Owner Who Mistakenly Thought Her Pennsylvania Carry Permit Was Good in New Jersey

Good news from Atlantic County, New Jersey: It looks like Shaneen Allen, the Philadelphia gun owner who faced a mandatory minimum sentence of three and a half years for driving across the Delaware River with a pistol in her purse, will escape prison after all. The Press of Atlantic City reports that Atlantic County Prosecutor Jim McClain, who initially refused to approve Allen for a pretrial diversion program, has changed his mind.

McClain cited a memo issued today by acting Attorney General John Hoffman, who told local prosecutors that "imprisonment is neither necessary nor appropriate to serve the interests of justice and protect public safety" in cases like Allen's. "In applying the factors set out in the clarification," McClain said, "I determined that the defendant in this case should be offered the opportunity to be admitted into the Atlantic County PTI [Pretrial Intervention] Program."

Hoffman's memo looks like a face-saving excuse for McClain, who more than a week ago signaled that he was reconsidering his hard-line approach to Allen's case, which had attracted nationwide attention. But if sparing McClain additional embarrassment is what it takes for him to abandon a clearly unjust prosecution, it's a small price to pay. Furthermore, Hoffman's memo should help similarly situated defendants. The Press says "the clarification also means McClain will now review other similar cases that have been denied PTI in the past."

Allen was arrested last October after she was pulled over on the Atlantic City Expressway for a minor traffic violation and volunteered to the state trooper that she had a gun in her purse. She erroneously believed that her Pennsylvania carry permit was good in New Jersey, and for that mistake McClain was prepared to put her behind bars for years, separating her from her two young sons. McClain's predecessor and prosecutors in other counties took a more lenient approach, commonly approving PTI for defendants like her. But until now McClain had argued that New Jersey law did not allow such exceptions.


I'm incredibly relieved that Shaneen isn't going to prison. She'll get to stay with her kids.

Of course, this still won't do anything in terms of getting her job back, or make up for almost a year of unemployment... but at least she's not going to be torn away from her kids and thrown into a cage.

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! To everyone who has helped by making phone calls, writing letters, making donations, or even just passing along the word of this travesty.

It's taken thousands of outraged citizens and God knows how many phone calls, but in the end it DID produce enough heat to make someone sit up and take notice.

I'm glad to know that every now and then we really can make a difference.

[mad cow]

Prosecutor Drops Prison Threat Against Gun Owner Who Mistakenly Thought Her Pennsylvania Carry Permit Was Good in New Jersey
http://reason.com/blog/2014/09/24/prosecutor-drops-prison-threat-against-g





I wondered what a Pretrial Intervention Program (http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/criminal/crpti.htm) was.



SMH

Excellent news!

Furthermore, Hoffman's memo should help similarly situated defendants. The Press says "the clarification also means McClain will now review other similar cases that have been denied PTI in the past."

Maybe it will help this guy.
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/reason-number-7452-to-stay-out-of-nj-tx-man-transporting-unloaded-firearms-through-nj-doing-3-5-years-in-prison/

[KCIndy]

Prosecutor Drops Prison Threat Against Gun Owner Who Mistakenly Thought Her Pennsylvania Carry Permit Was Good in New Jersey
http://reason.com/blog/2014/09/24/prosecutor-drops-prison-threat-against-g



I wondered what a Pretrial Intervention Program (http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/criminal/crpti.htm) was.



SMH


Oh, you beat me to the post! That's what I get for being a slow typist! :)

Yeah, the PTI thing is still a big pile of BS considering no crime was committed. I would have preferred to see charges dropped all together. But it sure beats ten years in the state penitentiary with no hope of early release, which is what that idiot prosecutor was wanting.

[KCIndy]

Excellent news!


Maybe it will help this guy.
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/reason-number-7452-to-stay-out-of-nj-tx-man-transporting-unloaded-firearms-through-nj-doing-3-5-years-in-prison/


I'm familiar with the case. It's one of several that McClain has done that - in my opinion - is nothing except malicious prosecution by a sadistic prosecutor who seems to have a pathological hatred of anyone who owns a gun. In another case, a man with a carry permit in PA was taken to Atlantic City by his friends for a bachelor party. He didn't realize how insane NJ's gun laws were until McClain threw the book at him. Unlike Ms. Allen, this guy (if I remember right) took the plea and ended up doing three years in prison.

I'm hoping the state AG will push hard to release all these persons who are still incarcerated immediately.

[jjdoyle]

I thought I read in this thread that she was fired after getting arrested, but not sure if that was verified?

If so, is there any news on if she is going to get her job back?

[Anti Federalist]

I thought I read in this thread that she was fired after getting arrested, but not sure if that was verified?

If so, is there any news on if she is going to get her job back?

Yes, she was.

No news on the second question, but I would doubt it.

Corporate HR pukes take a pretty dim view of being arrested.

[Anti Federalist]

Will she lose her right to bear arms?

[KCIndy]

I thought I read in this thread that she was fired after getting arrested, but not sure if that was verified?

If so, is there any news on if she is going to get her job back?


Yes, she lost her job after her arrest. Apparently she was in jail for about five weeks before she managed to bail out. (I can't find the news article right now, but I'll post it here if I can look it up later.) I sincerely hope she'll get her job back, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

EDIT/UPDATE:

I found the article. According to this piece written by Radley Balko for the Washington Post, Shaneen spent 40 days in jail after her arrest before finally being able to be bailed out. The article doesn't say, but I wonder how high the bail is for the "crime" of carrying a weapon for self-defense. Probably a lot. :(

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/07/22/shaneen-allen-race-and-gun-control/

[KCIndy]

Will she lose her right to bear arms?

Supposedly, the successful completion of PTI erases the charges, so I would guess the answer is that she'll be able to retain her right to bear arms:

http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/criminal/crpti.htm

If a defendant successfully completes all the conditions of PTI, then the original charges are dismissed and there is no record of conviction.

Of course, after getting unjustly and unconstitutionally f*cked over as bad as she did (five weeks in jail, loss of job, unemployed for a year and threatened with a decade in prison) she may not want to have anything to do with concealed carry. And after getting burned that badly, I couldn't really blame her. :(

Also, she's not out of the woods yet. PTI sounds like it's basically like probation: (Thanks to Lucille for the PTI info link!)


What are the Conditions for Participation In Pretrial Intervention?

Supervision under the PTI program may average from one to three years. Certain standard conditions are imposed on those accepted into PTI, such as, random urine monitoring, and assessments for fees, penalties and fines. Additional conditions may also be imposed to require the performance of community service, payment of restitution, and submission to psychological and/or drug and alcohol evaluations with compliance to recommended treatment programs.

It's still a giant, steaming pile of BS.

[limequat]

A pat on the back for everyone in this thread. RPF may have been only a small part of the donations and heat put on McClain, but we certainly helped. Good job everyone!

[kahless]

A few days after a flurry of articles about Christie running for President met with many comments about this case. If Christie did not have Presidential aspirations I suspect she would likely still being facing jail time. This still reflects poorly on Christie and the prosecutor for allowing it to go on this long, not completely dismissing the case and no effort on Christie's part to change the NJ gun laws so this does not happen to people like Shaneen and others.

I hope every candidate running against these two scumbags remembers this.