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jct74
07-14-2014, 10:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVSGuQNdzUA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTy9NHx-NIQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSNkVsQG6rw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y_BCGIIDRg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfjlTtqYXSY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8FF107x3r4

jct74
07-14-2014, 10:12 PM
Cenk breaks it all down



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiEM-D99jM

LibertyEsq
07-14-2014, 10:41 PM
Michael Steele is such a FAKE just going with wherever the wind blows.

Anyone have the clip of him insulting Ron on his foreign policy post-2008 debates? Now he claims to be part of "the large part of the party siding with Rand Paul"...and now says Cheney and Perry are revisionists??? Give me a break, no one's buying it.

Thanks for finding all these clips, by the way.

jtstellar
07-14-2014, 10:59 PM
wow gj jct

jtstellar
07-14-2014, 11:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZUS5paWGjI

jct74
07-15-2014, 01:48 AM
Michael Steele is such a FAKE just going with wherever the wind blows.

Anyone have the clip of him insulting Ron on his foreign policy post-2008 debates? Now he claims to be part of "the large part of the party siding with Rand Paul"...and now says Cheney and Perry are revisionists??? Give me a break, no one's buying it.

Thanks for finding all these clips, by the way.

You may not be aware of this but in 2010 when he was chair of the RNC he made some comments about the war in Afghanistan that got the neocons all worked up and a lot of people were actually calling for him to step down from his position. It was 4 years ago so I don't remember all the details but he took a lot of flak for it at the time, including John McCain who was particularly critical. So he is probably closer to Rand Paul's foreign policy views than you think.

jct74
07-15-2014, 01:50 AM
CNN discussion with Jake Tapper



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aylgz8dcXNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aylgz8dcXNU

jct74
07-15-2014, 02:03 AM
Chris Stirewalt on Fox News

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3674727949001/war-of-words-rick-perry-vs-rand-paul/

jct74
07-15-2014, 02:27 AM
Fox New Special Report segment

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3674969932001/long-distance-war-of-words-between-rand-paul-and-rick-perry/

LibertyEsq
07-15-2014, 05:07 AM
hadn't known that about Michael Steele - maybe you are right. Still, just like McCain and several others he seems like an example of a Republican who is forced to drastically change his rhetoric on the issue 6 years after Ron's first campaign, based on what he was saying back then.

Bastiat's The Law
07-15-2014, 07:50 AM
hadn't known that about Michael Steele - maybe you are right. Still, just like McCain and several others he seems like an example of a Republican who is forced to drastically change his rhetoric on the issue 6 years after Ron's first campaign, based on what he was saying back then.

Steele has learned his lesson it seems. He's been pretty friendly with Ron over the years. If he was chair of the RNC he'd be very welcoming to Paulers.

http://silencedmajority.blogs.com/.a/6a00d834520b4b69e2013485349567970c-pi

ctiger2
07-15-2014, 09:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqVCYbXEDFY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJMWfjZOv7E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--ZiTDwta0o

libertyplz
07-15-2014, 10:09 AM
I noticed in multiple instances in many of those clips that they are finally dropping the "isolationist" label when describing Rand. Looks like Rand's words in the op-ed has had, at the very least, a temporary effect on those that want to throw the "isolationist" label at him.

One person stated that Rand Paul's foreign policy views actually aligned with George Washington's. The Special Report with Bret Baier used the "non-interventionist" term when referring to Rand, and one of the commentators called Rand a "realist".

Just a trend I had noticed in most of those videos, that most declined to call him an isolationist. Since that "isolationist" term seems to now be backfiring, how long until the neocons coin a new term for Rand and start parroting it in unison?

philipped
07-15-2014, 10:36 AM
RANDSLIDE COMING SOON TO YOUR TVS.

LibertyEsq
07-15-2014, 10:52 AM
All of these clips are providing lots of fodder for grassroots hype videos...maybe I'll find myself a new hobby this fall ;)

r3volution 3.0
07-15-2014, 11:45 AM
I can't wait to see the next poll, will Rand be up or down after this exchange?

jct74
07-15-2014, 12:11 PM
Morning Joe today, Joe calls Rand Paul an 'isolationist'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fivuKiB2QYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fivuKiB2QYk

Galileo Galilei
07-15-2014, 12:53 PM
wow, Rand is getting unprecedented news coverage over 2 measly op-eds!!!!!

libertyplz
07-15-2014, 01:00 PM
Morning Joe today, Joe calls Rand Paul an 'isolationist'

Well so much for my theory haha, still think it's going to be ineffective and that they will try to come up with a new term. Joe was one of the few that was very dismissive of Rand yesterday too. Even in this clip, Joe was the only one on the panel that remained pretty dismissive towards Rand, everyone else said he would be a formidable candidate.

Crashland
07-15-2014, 05:26 PM
Cenk breaks it all down

That video was a side-splitter for me lol. Can't add any more rep

idiom
07-15-2014, 07:03 PM
What is good is this is straight alpha male knock down drag out brawl. Highly electable.

Keep in mind, the establishment seed is Paul Ryan. Expect to see Paul Ryan materialize magically as the media darling early next year.

Cleaner44
07-15-2014, 07:23 PM
Michael Steele is such a FAKE just going with wherever the wind blows.

Anyone have the clip of him insulting Ron on his foreign policy post-2008 debates? Now he claims to be part of "the large part of the party siding with Rand Paul"...and now says Cheney and Perry are revisionists??? Give me a break, no one's buying it.

Thanks for finding all these clips, by the way.

That may be the case, but don't underestimate the allies we pick up as the truth becomes apparent to people over time. Nearly all of us here were ignorant at one point and learned better.

idiom
07-15-2014, 07:39 PM
Also the Koch brothers are libertarians? Are they our secret billionaires?!?!?

LibertyEsq
07-15-2014, 07:41 PM
That may be the case, but don't underestimate the allies we pick up as the truth becomes apparent to people over time. Nearly all of us here were ignorant at one point and learned better.

Yeah you are probably right. I had just woken up when I posted that and I'm no morning person :p

I guess I was a neocon once too, although I was also about 15 years old..

mad cow
07-15-2014, 07:46 PM
Also the Koch brothers are libertarians? Are they our secret billionaires?!?!?

Why yes,yes they are,to both questions.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/koch-brothers-the-real-thing/

RonPaulGeorge&Ringo
07-15-2014, 10:35 PM
Why yes,yes they are,to both questions.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/koch-brothers-the-real-thing/

" Ron Paul is completely absent from these pages. Supporting him apparently wasn’t even a remote possibility for the Kochs. This might be baffling to the outside observer, but there is a good reason for it: the historic division in the libertarian movement stretching back to 1983, when Crane and the Kochs split with Rothbard. After this two movements existed side by side, sometimes trading potshots but more often simply ignoring each other, like former lovers who avert their eyes whenever they run into each other on the street. . .

"The initial frontrunner for the 2016 GOP presidential nomination is the son of a man who represents the other strand of libertarianism, the one they broke with 15 years ago. While Charles and David were looking for immediate gratification with Romney and ignoring the longer term political battle, Ron Paul was building a real grassroots movement, a solid launching pad for his son, the junior senator from Kentucky. The Kochs made an alliance of convenience with Karl Rove—but do they have the humility to make an alliance of principle with their former comrades to put Rand Paul in the White House?"

CPUd
07-15-2014, 10:50 PM
1st video in the OP:

"This isn't like Palin... this is actually a real story..."

jct74
07-16-2014, 12:16 AM
Karl Rove weighs in at 4:05 mark



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33qai5Mpt_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33qai5Mpt_k

mad cow
07-16-2014, 12:29 AM
Ron Paul is completely absent from these pages. Supporting him apparently wasn’t even a remote possibility for the Kochs. This might be baffling to the outside observer, but there is a good reason for it: the historic division in the libertarian movement stretching back to 1983, when Crane and the Kochs split with Rothbard.

Supporting Goldwater over LBJ in '64 and Andre Marrou over GHW Bush in '92 wasn't even a remote possibility for Murray Rothbard apparently.
You gonna kick him out of the libertarian lineup?

Or perhaps you got somebody else in mind who has spent more money on libertarianism than the Koch brothers that you would like to bring up?

Vanguard101
07-16-2014, 12:41 AM
That may be the case, but don't underestimate the allies we pick up as the truth becomes apparent to people over time. Nearly all of us here were ignorant at one point and learned better.

I was 13-14 when I converted. I never really heard the side of conservatism/libertarianism until that time. I just heard from my parents that the GOP was bad and Obama was great.

Natural Citizen
07-16-2014, 01:18 AM
wow, Rand is getting unprecedented news coverage over 2 measly op-eds!!!!!


Certainly reflects the desperation of a dying mainstream cable news infrastructure. Nobody watches them anymore. Those who remain faithful to the we ask, you decide framework of the flow of information are greatly outnumbered by a much younger demograph of people who come equipped with the actual facts and tend to question a little more. These cable networks want to build a younger viewer base but it will never happen. The fact is that nobody trusts them. In fact, statistics show that mainstream is on a consistent decline as the percentage of people who get their information online and through digital sources consistently grows. As well, these sources bring information directly from the ground and so to have a tv pundit playing we ask, you decide with a politician is, quite frankly, laughable once you've actually learned what is really going on around the world. Heck, foreign media does a far superior job of reporting on important news that happens here in the states whereas mainstream cable news continues to avoid them.

Where Americans Get News... http://www.journalism.org/media-indicators/where-americans-get-news/ - Note: This survey is biennial, the next update will be in the fall of 2014.

I suppose that the point is that one would do well to be careful of the bed they anxiously seek to make. After all, he or she will certainly have to sleep in it.

jct74
07-16-2014, 01:54 AM
Mike Allen from Politico on BloombergTV 7/14
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/why-is-the-gop-establishment-afraid-of-rand-paul-SqKdAz53QHikrwY2mV8MkA.html

Obama campaign manager and senior advisor David Plouffe on BloombergTV 7/14
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/gop-primary-will-be-bloody-and-ugly-plouffe-SUY_MwsgQ2O~0gkXlBuDPA.html

limequat
07-16-2014, 07:17 AM
Why yes,yes they are,to both questions.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/koch-brothers-the-real-thing/

Fascinating article. I didn't realize how little I knew about the history of libertarianism.

Legend1104
07-16-2014, 09:22 AM
Morning Joe today, Joe calls Rand Paul an 'isolationist'

He probably just felt offended by Paul's glasses comment.

scottditzen
07-16-2014, 10:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZUS5paWGjI

I am sending this to every Republican I know. This is it, this is the future of the party right here playing out in front of our very eyes. If these imbecilic (Perry) or morally bankrupt (Cheney) warmongering stooges win this fight, then I hope the Republican Party chokes to death on its own bile.

Galileo Galilei
07-16-2014, 10:27 AM
Mike Allen from Politico on BloombergTV 7/14
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/why-is-the-gop-establishment-afraid-of-rand-paul-SqKdAz53QHikrwY2mV8MkA.html



anyone notice the totally loaded and stupid propaganda question the paid shill chick asked at 2:15? She wants to know if Rand makes Ted Cruz look mainstream. Wow. At least the guest handled the question well.

The question by the dude at 1 minute was totally stupid too, Rand fits in well and Silicon Valley. Duh.