CA-Drought Shaming Pitting Neighbors Against Neighbors On Social Media

[Anti Federalist]

Drought Shaming Pitting Neighbors Against Neighbors On Social Media

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/07/11/drought-shaming-pitting-neighbors-against-neighbors-on-social-media/

SACRAMENTO (CBS13) — Neighbors are tattling on neighbors for wasting water and some are taking their drought shaming to social media.

If you’ve ever had the feeling you’re being watched while you water your lawn, there’s a good chance you are during this historic drought.

In Sacramento, water wasters can face fines, and the enforcer may be someone who lives right next door.

Terrance Davis with the city department of utilities says he’s seeing a trend of drought shaming.

“Our water use complaint calls have gone up exponentially from the last 2 years,” he said.

Karen Halbo lives in River Park. She says it’s not about whose lawn is greener anymore, it’s about whose lawn is browner.

“Frankly when your lawn looks as bad as mine does you sort of want to encourage others to stop watering concrete,” she said.

Down the street, Pam Ferko admits the pressure from her neighbors not to waste sometimes has her sneaking around.

“I think my husband has been guilty of coming out late at night and doing a little secretive watering underneath the trees,” she said.

Even the Capitol lawn is drought shaming by example, with signs reading “If we can go brown, so can you.”

Some may find the drought shaming vindictive or sneaky, but the city says that competition is motivation, and it’s working to reduce water waste.

“Obviously we can’t see everything, can’t be everywhere so having people in the community helping us out—residents, neighbors—reporting those types of things is a great tool for us too,” Davis said.

The city says from January to June, it’s received more than 8,000 calls to its water-use complaint line. Just last month, the city saw a 17 percent cut in water use.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Don't forget that these tattletale scum are your enemy, too. Just like the enforcers.

[Brian4Liberty]

The people in Sacramento, with a huge river running through it, tattle on each other while a good portion of that water flows to LA so they can wash down their driveways.

[DamianTV]

Adds a whole new meaning to "Brown Shirts".

[puppetmaster]

A guy I was just talking to in Sacramento said your on a smart meter and if you use more than you allotment you get fined and if you do it twice they shut off you water.

[ClydeCoulter]

You feeling okay, AF?

[presence]

Briefkasten Der Stürmer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_St%C3%BCrmer#Letter_box

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Bundesarchiv_Bild_133-075,_Worms,_Antisemitische_Presse,_%22St%C3%BCrmer kasten%22.jpg



Wir ziehen die Aufmerksamkeit der Behörden, ihn,
und warnen unserer Mitbürger.



We draw the attention of the authorities to him,
and warn our fellow citizens.

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ds13.htm

[JK/SEA]

You feeling okay, AF?

he's thirsty....

[ClydeCoulter]

The people in Sacramento, with a huge river running through it, tattle on each other while a good portion of that water flows to LA so they can wash down their driveways.

It's that way with a lot of things and people don't think it through. If the trucks stop rolling to the stores, it will be the fault of whoever they are told. But it's not for lack of anything material/physical.

[tod evans]

Neighbors

Right there is the problem in a nutshell.

[tod evans]

double posting doesn't make it better...:o

[presence]

double posting doesn't make it better...:o

At least its a good buffer between you and the next poster.

[tod evans]

At least its a good buffer between you and the next poster.

I don't do it on purpose...

This durn 'puter outwits me way too often...:o

[Anti Federalist]

You feeling okay, AF?

No, I am not, not at all...

[Anti Federalist]

A guy I was just talking to in Sacramento said your on a smart meter and if you use more than you allotment you get fined and if you do it twice they shut off you water.

Ah joy...and people actually raise their eyebrows and wonder why I'm an unrepentant Luddite.

[Brian4Liberty]

Ah joy...and people actually raise their eyebrows and wonder why I'm an unrepentant Luddite.

But Stossell says that you are really "rich" because you have a smart meter, and the richest people in the history of the world never had them (beltway libertarian talking point).

[Anti Federalist]

But Stossell says that you are really "rich" because you have a smart meter, and the richest people in the history of the world never had them (beltway libertarian talking point).

That's the same Stossel that's "OK" with government surveillance because his life is so mundane nobody would have any interest in it...until he's using too much water.

Now, what happens when that water is shut off and duly reported to city "code enforcement"?

Condemnation of the property and seizure by the city.

Now you know who really owns your property and you.

And this lesson will be learned and re-learned every day as more "smart" systems come online to keep a hairy eyeball on you and enforce "compliance".

ETA - Rich my ass...a rich society would not have half the households in it on some sort of government dole.

[Brian4Liberty]

ETA - Rich my ass...a rich society would not have half the households in it on some sort of government dole.

Bread and circuses (and 24x7 smart devices). Mundanes have never had it so good!

[Occam's Banana]

Karen Halbo lives in River Park. She says it’s not about whose lawn is greener anymore, it’s about whose lawn is browner.

“Frankly when your lawn looks as bad as mine does you sort of want to encourage others to stop watering concrete,” she said.

Down the street, Pam Ferko admits the pressure from her neighbors not to waste sometimes has her sneaking around.

“I think my husband has been guilty of coming out late at night and doing a little secretive watering underneath the trees,” she said.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/200/417/690.jpg

[phill4paul]

Ah joy...and people actually raise their eyebrows and wonder why I'm an unrepentant Luddite.

Which of the two wells should I use today. Decisions , decisions.

[DamianTV]

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/water-(R).jpg

[Henry Rogue]

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Drought in the southwestern U.S. will deplete the vast Lake Mead this week to levels not seen since Hoover Dam was completed and the reservoir on the Colorado River was filled in the 1930s, federal water managers said Tuesday.

The projected lake level of about 1,080 feet above sea level will be below the level of about 1,082 feet recorded in November 2010 and the 1,083-foot mark measured in April 1956 during another sustained drought.

But U.S. Bureau of Reclamation regional chief Terry Fulp said water obligations will be met at least through next year without a key shortage declaration. The result will be full deliveries to cities, states, farms and Indian tribes in an area that's home to some 40 million people and the cities of Las Vegas, Phoenix and Los Angeles.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/07/10/lake-mead-nevada-drought/12486313/

Government builds dam which in turn forms lake. This allows for the expansion of population in desert region previously incapable of sustaining a larger population than what already existed. Water level drops in the government made lake. People exclaim, "See, we need the government to keeps us from using to much water."

Government creates problem. Solution? More government.:o

[PRB]

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/water-(R).jpg

Oh, so a few elite can artificially create droughts, but 100+ years of industrialization is incapable of changing climate.

[euphemia]

And then there is the opposite end of the spectrum where people get in trouble for saving water and their lawn turns brown (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/19/california-couple-faces-fine-for-brown-lawn-after-complying-with-water-saving/?intcmp=obnetwork).

[PRB]

And then there is the opposite end of the spectrum where people get in trouble for saving water and their lawn turns brown (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/19/california-couple-faces-fine-for-brown-lawn-after-complying-with-water-saving/?intcmp=obnetwork).

Different government and law, conflicting agendas. So it's not that they were fined for saving water, they were fined for not keeping their lawn green, a retarded city ordinance.

[catfeathers]

They just need to paint their grass. That's probably illegal too though.
http://www.houselogic.com/home-advice/lawns/lawn-paint-keeps-grass-green/#.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Americans are idiots... Governments are liars, thieves, and destroyers

Government cities/towns don't have any problems with water streets and roadways that I drive through constantly. Plus, there's 187 quintillion gallons of water available along a 850 mile California coastline. Use that water, oh yeah, then the Climate Clowns can't cry about rising sea levels either. Same goes for the morons in Las Vegas that built a multimillion population with skyscrapers in the middle of the frigin desert. Here's some bullets, look at the first one... You're a fucking criminal for using water, WTF is the matter with these Marxifornia Morons? The most abundant resource on planet earth.

California Adopts $500 Criminal Penalty For Water Waste (http://www.sacbee.com/2014/07/15/6558982/california-used-more-water-in.html)

Price of Water 2014: Up 6 Percent in 30 Major U.S. Cities; 33 Percent Rise Since 2010 (http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/2014/world/price-water-2014-6-percent-30-major-u-s-cities-33-percent-rise-since-2010/)

$24,000 water bill from California American Water Company (http://smartmeterharm.org/2014/03/10/24000-water-bill/)

CNN: Skyrocketing water bills mystify, anger residents (http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/01/water.bills.war/index.html)




http://pureenergies.com/us/blog/infographic-american-spending-on-utilities/ (http://pureenergies.com/us/blog/infographic-american-spending-on-utilities/)
Shock Value: The Rising Cost of Utilities in America - Pure Energies USA

[ZENemy]

Wait until it's against the law NOT to report your neighbor.

[alucard13mm]

Snitches get stitches.

[Anti Federalist]

I just missed a story the other day about someone getting arrested for water violations.

Looking for it now...

[PRB]

Americans are idiots...

that's all that matters now.

[Anti Federalist]

Here it is...

Do not water your lawn, or else.

Water your lawn, or else.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?456083-CA-Couple-threatened-with-fines-and-arrest-for-complying-with-watering-ban

[euphemia]

Different government and law, conflicting agendas. So it's not that they were fined for saving water, they were fined for not keeping their lawn green, a retarded city ordinance.

Exactly. Could be a new reality show. When Law Meets Law.

A little creativity would help everyone. A few years ago we had a minor drought. A guy bought a play sprinkler for his yard and showered in the sprinkler. He moved it around every other day.

Fortunately we live in an unrestricted neighborhood. On purpose. Yards don't have to look like anything.

[PRB]

Fortunately we live in an unrestricted neighborhood. On purpose. Yards don't have to look like anything.

Unfortunately you live in the US, where any idiot can sue any other person for things that are perfectly legal. So if your neighbor is an asshole and just happens to want to sell his house, he'll first complain that your house doesn't look new enough, or your lawn isn't green enough, or you have too much dog/child toys on display, or you never take in your newspaper. If you don't help him sell his house, he still has no law to slap you with, but he'll make something up about how you negligently depreciated his property value by failing to upkeep or some bullshit like that, he'll give you a hard time, probably waste your time just answering police calls or frivolous lawsuits that you wish were just a $500 ticket.

[Occam's Banana]

Meanwhile in Upland ...


Good grief...


UPLAND, Calif. (AP) — Fernand Bogman says he's being a responsible citizen by not watering the grass at his San Bernardino County home during California's drought.

But officials in the city of Upland say the homeowner is violating the law by keeping his lawn brown instead of green.

The homeowner is charged with two misdemeanors for failing to properly maintain his front yard and parkway space.

Prosecutor Dan Peelman tells the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin that Bogman was given the option to pay fines and to correct the issue. He also met with city officials who told him if he submitted a drought-tolerant landscaping proposal he could avoid going to trial.

He rejected the offers.

Now Bogman faces $4,000 in fines or six months in jail when the case goes to trial on Monday.

Read more: http://www.kfiam640.com/articles/local-news-465708/man-faces-possible-jail-time-for-12996960/#ixzz3JqbpK67R