Shock Report: 70 Million People Would Be Starving in the Streets Without Government Welfare Pr

[donnay]

Shock Report: 70 Million People Would Be Starving in the Streets Without Government Welfare Programs

Mac Slavo
www.SHTFplan.com
July 10th, 2014

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/the-american-dream-is-over-300x255.jpg

Amid all the talk of recovery by politicians, economic officials and big business leaders, the fundamental numbers behind all the propaganda tell a starkly different story.

Home sales have dropped to record lows, more people are out of the workforce than any time in the last 50 years, and cash-strapped consumers have run out of money to fuel economic growth.

By all meaningful measures the American boom times of old are gone.

A recent report from the Department of Health and Human Services suggests that we may have already reached the tipping point and that things are only going to get worse going forward.

According to the HHS, nearly half of all Americans are now dependent on some form of government benefit just to put food on the table. And of our population of 310 million, nearly one in four receive welfare benefits.

That’s over 70 million people who, if the government safety nets broke down due to lack of funding or a monetary crisis, would be starving on our streets right now.

The sheer magnitude of the numbers is shocking. What’s worse is that they are indicative of a continuing down-trend that won’t be improving anytime soon.

According to the 2014 version of a report that the Department of Health and Human Services is required by law to issue annually, the percentage of Americans on welfare in 2011 was the highest yet calculated. The data for 2011 is the most recent in the report.

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By this measure, according to the report, 23.1 percent of Americans were recipients of welfare in 2011. Since 1993, the earliest year covered by the report, that is the highest percentage of Americans reported to be receiving welfare.

A startling 38 percent of all children 5 and under in the United States were welfare recipients in 2011, according to the report.

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When recipients of non-means-tested government programs (such as Social Security, Medicare, unemployment, and veterans benefits) were added to those receiving benefits from means-tested programs, the total number receiving benefits in the fourth quarter of 2011 was 151,014,000, according to the Census Bureau. That equaled 49.2 percent of the total population.

CNS News (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/hhs-report-percentage-americans-welfare-hits-recorded-high) via Infowars (http://www.infowars.com/hhs-report-percentage-of-americans-on-welfare-hits-recorded-high/)

Continued... (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shock-report-the-collapse-is-now-70-million-people-would-be-starving-in-the-streets-without-government-welfare-programs_07092014)

[Anti Federalist]

inb4 Zippy strolls into the thread whistling:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R1nRxcICeE

[Legend1104]

Broken window fallacy all over again. A better question would be, how many people are without work and food because the government has welfare programs that drain resources away from more productive means and distribute them to less productive means and therefore cost America the benefit of that production?

[Philhelm]

That’s over 70 million people who, if the government safety nets broke down due to lack of funding or a monetary crisis, would be starving on our streets right now.

Total, unintelligent B.S. The first bit of B.S. is the premise that every single person receiving food stamps would starve without them. The implication of the above sentence is that private charity would not manage to feed a single person (since all 70 million people would starve without government assistance). Nevermind the fact that nobody in the U.S. has starved since early colonization or the cannibalistic Donner Party, but food stamps couldn't have possibly helped even if they had existed. I'm so sick of the B.S. People don't want to humble themselves, particulalry before the vile Chrisitians, so feel (not think) that food stamps are some sort of State-given right. Food is so abundant within the U.S. that I guarantee you that nobody would starve. Seriously, if someone came to your door and begged for food because he was literally going to starve, wouldn't you, or someone, throw a dented can of Campbell's soup at him?

[donnay]

Total, unintelligent B.S. The first bit of B.S. is the premise that every single person receiving food stamps would starve without them. The implication of the above sentence is that private charity would not manage to feed a single person (since all 70 million people would starve without government assistance). Nevermind the fact that nobody in the U.S. has starved since early colonization or the cannibalistic Donner Party, but food stamps couldn't have possibly helped even if they had existed. I'm so sick of the B.S. People don't want to humble themselves, particulalry before the vile Chrisitians, so feel (not think) that food stamps are some sort of State-given right. Food is so abundant within the U.S. that I guarantee you that nobody would starve. Seriously, if someone came to your door and begged for food because he was literally going to starve, wouldn't you, or someone, throw a dented can of Campbell's soup at him?

It's not BS when you realize that these people know no other way to live. This is all been done by design.

[Philhelm]

It's not BS when you realize that these people know no other way to live. This is all been done by design.

Even the greatest of dullards would realize that begging is an option. Also, aren't we talking about a large segment of the population that is grossly obese?

[donnay]

Even the greatest of dullards would realize that begging is an option. Also, aren't we talking about a large segment of the population that is grossly obese?

It is all done by design to take our country down--fat, dumb and oblivious... it makes it easier to take over and control.

[Zippyjuan]

The 70 million figure is for persons living in a household where at least one person receives some benefits. A kid gets lunch subsidy at school? Entire family counts as receiving benefits. Granny on Social Security living with you? Everybody in the house is counted as receiving benefits. Five students in a house where one is on aid? All are counted.

http://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-2/spending-patterns-of-families-receiving-means-tested-government-assistance.htm


Government means-tested assistance programs, such as Medicaid and Supplemental Security Income (SSI), provide cash and noncash benefits to many low-income families. In 2009, 19.0 percent of U.S. families, on average, participated in at least one major means-tested program per month. Participation rates were highest for one-parent families headed by women, 46.3 percent, compared with 26.5 percent for one-parent families headed by men and 12.3 percent for married-couple families.1

This article uses data from the 2011 Consumer Expenditure Interview Survey to examine the spending patterns of families receiving benefits from one or more government means-tested assistance programs.2 Families with children under 18 are the focus of this research, because the poverty rate for children under 18 was highest for this group, at 21.9 percent in 2011, compared with 13.7 percent for people age 18 to 64 and 8.7 percent for people age 65 and older.3

Findings show that:

Average total expenditures of families receiving means-tested assistance were less than half those of families not receiving assistance.

For families receiving assistance, food, housing, and transportation accounted for 77.0 percent of the family budget, compared with 65.5 percent of the budget of families not receiving assistance.

Among one-parent families receiving assistance, 36.8 percent did not own a car, compared with 3.0 percent of families not receiving assistance and 9.7 percent of two-parent families receiving assistance.

[acptulsa]

This is the kind of topic that makes government watching kind of fun--especially if you're, you know, into train wrecks.

'We're saving seventy million from starvation! Love and worship your government!'

'You couldn't possibly be saving seventy million! How could there be that many in jeopardy?! The economy has been recovering from the recession for seven years straight! How can people love and worship their government for saving them from the recession when their own government is saying they still need to be saved from the recession they were already saved from?!'

When you have 23,759 alphabet soup agencies, it's awful hard to keep them all on message...

[Ronin Truth]

I'd much prefer a population half the current size. Down 70 million would make for a pretty good start.

[Zippyjuan]

You volunteering to leave?

[Philhelm]

It is all done by design to take our country down--fat, dumb and oblivious... it makes it easier to take over and control.

I don't doubt that, but part of the deception is that people would starve without government assistance.

[Philhelm]

You volunteering to leave?

Can he afford the expat tax?

[jbauer]

It is all done by design to take our country down--fat, dumb and oblivious... it makes it easier to take over and control.

The better question, is when we're all fat, dumb and oblivious...what would the masters want with us anyways?

[donnay]

The better question, is when we're all fat, dumb and oblivious...what would the masters want with us anyways?

(In my best annoying Dalek voice) "Exterminate!"

[acptulsa]

The better question, is when we're all fat, dumb and oblivious...what would the masters want with us anyways?

The fatter your slaves start out, the longer you can work them before you have to shell out a few bucks for a pot of gruel.

[mad cow]

That’s over 70 million people who, if the government safety nets broke down due to lack of funding or a monetary crisis, would be starving on our streets right now.


Hogwash.This sounds like an endorsement of the welfare state.Am I an idiot for thinking that not only would nobody starve if the welfare state ended,they would thrive?

[Zippyjuan]

(In my best annoying Dalek voice) "Exterminate!"

Let's say they exterminate everyone. Who will they rule over? Who will do the things they want done and make the things they want to own?

[Christian Liberty]

Total, unintelligent B.S. The first bit of B.S. is the premise that every single person receiving food stamps would starve without them. The implication of the above sentence is that private charity would not manage to feed a single person (since all 70 million people would starve without government assistance). Nevermind the fact that nobody in the U.S. has starved since early colonization or the cannibalistic Donner Party, but food stamps couldn't have possibly helped even if they had existed. I'm so sick of the B.S. People don't want to humble themselves, particulalry before the vile Chrisitians, so feel (not think) that food stamps are some sort of State-given right.

What do Christians have to do with it?

Some of us (including yours truly) don't want the State to exist AT ALL.

The average evangelical Christian voter may be a sucker for the warfare state, but he doesn't want nearly as much welfare as the average liberal Democrat.

Why Christians specifically here? I know there are plenty of people, both Christians and non-Christians, to blame here. But why Christians specifically?


Food is so abundant within the U.S. that I guarantee you that nobody would starve. Seriously, if someone came to your door and begged for food because he was literally going to starve, wouldn't you, or someone, throw a dented can of Campbell's soup at him?

I'd probably make him something if I had the time. I'd definitely give him something.

I agree that there's no way 70 million people starve in that scenario. That said, I'm sure SOMEBODY has starved in the US since the colonial period.

[donnay]

Let's say they exterminate everyone. Who will they rule over? Who will do the things they want done and make the things they want to own?

They won't exterminate everyone. They will leave enough here so they can control--after all who will work the fields for their food and keep the lights on? It's harder to control 7 billion people.

“The elderly are useless eaters” — Dr. Henry Kissinger

“A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” — Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine

“The present vast overpopulation, now far beyond the world carrying capacity, cannot be answered by future reductions in the birth rate due to contraception, sterilization and abortion, but must be met in the present by the reduction of numbers presently existing. This must be done by whatever means necessary.” — Initiative for the United Nations ECO-92 EARTH CHARTER

http://prof77.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/georgia-guidestones-top-commandments.jpg?w=500&h=375
“Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature”
~ Georgia Guidestones

“The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.”
~ Bill Gates

“The negative impact of population growth on all of our planetary ecosystems is becoming appallingly evident.”
~ David Rockefeller

“In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day.”
~ Jacques Cousteau

“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
~ Prince Phillip, the Duke of Edinburgh

“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
~ Margaret Sanger Founder of Planned Parenthood

“A program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men.
The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.”
~ John P. Holdren - Barack Obama’s top science advisor


Democide: Death by government

[DamianTV]

Oi! Look at all those dependant on the system, and all the potential Votes for even more Socialism... Welfare is how Govt now buys votes since their words are empty and hollow.

[Zippyjuan]

As I have said many times before, if their goal is to reduce the population to 500,000,000 or however many, they really suck at getting it done.

And most of those quotes are out of context and misleading from what was actually said. Bill Gates for example was suggesting family planning to reduce the RATE OF GROWTH in populations- not a reduction in total numbers. John Holden was quoted from a book he wrote on ways governments have tried to control populations- he did not suggest any of them actually be adopted. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/29/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-claims-science-czar-john-holdren-propos/ David Rockefeller was trying to invent (and failed to) an injectable form of birth control. Cousteau does not actually advocate killing people but using education to teach birth control to poor nations. http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0009/000902/090256eo.pdf He also said the Earth could only support about 700,000 people at the living standard of the USA in 1975. Today there are seven billion people.

[DamianTV]

The only way to reduce the population of the world down to the 500 M levels without a complete worldwide revolution would be to employ as many different ways to kill people as possible. Coming out with guns-a-blazing would only spark blowback. Destroying peoples ability to reproduce, then elimination by starvation does not require the use of guns-a-blazing thus people think its just their Govt that sucks, or "business as usual" for most, and wont revolt. If there is to be an Enemy, they will make it perfectly clear as to who that Enemy is. Then the focus of anger will be on said Enemy. Possibly Russia or Iran at this point. As usual, the powers that be will absolve themselves of any blame in the situation, but will always offer solutions to the very problems they create.

[donnay]

As I have said many times before, if their goal is to reduce the population to 500,000,000 or however many, they really suck at getting it done.

And most of those quotes are out of context and misleading from what was actually said. Bill Gates for example was suggesting family planning to reduce the RATE OF GROWTH in populations- not a reduction in total numbers. John Holden was quoted from a book he wrote on ways governments have tried to control populations- he did not suggest any of them actually be adopted. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/29/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-claims-science-czar-john-holdren-propos/ David Rockefeller was trying to invent (and failed to) an injectable form of birth control.

Zippy you can be in denial all you want. I get it. Every one of the above are power hungry sick psychopaths. Bill Gates just funded the new birth control microchip (http://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-backs-birth-control-gadget-2014-7).

I have already discussed with you that wars are a depopulation method as well. They are not killing people immediately because like Bill Gates and the Rockefeller Foundations want to get EVERY penny out of you before you die. Long illnesses will do that.

[Zippyjuan]

I see. Birth control is death. Are condoms death? Is the Pill death? Implantable birth control is nothing new.

Yes- they want to kill us with slow death. As before when we have discussed this, then why are lifespans rising? Again, if that is their goal, they really suck at the execution.

If Bill Gates wants everybody's money, how come he is giving all his away?

[donnay]

I see. Birth control is death. Are condoms death? Is the Pill death? Implantable birth control is nothing new.

Yes- they want to kill us with slow death. As before when we have discussed this, then why are lifespans rising? Again, if that is their goal, they really suck at the execution.

If Bill Gates wants everybody's money, how come he is giving all his away?

Because the return on his money is ten-fold.

Hey you know what Zippy...bottom line is, it is none of Bill Gates business if I choose to have 1 child or 20. But hey so long as these billionaires have "philanthropist" titles, then we should listen to them, right? Because their money make them so much smarter and they know what is best for all of us mundanes. :rolleyes:

Here we go Zippy-- your new National Anthem:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcFBic8srgQ

[Zippyjuan]

Is he forcing it on anybody? No.

To maintain current population levels, you need to kill of 70 million every year. A WWII every year. To get to 500 million you need to get rid of 70% of the entire world. Quietly, secretly, without raising alarm so they don't decide to toss you out.

[donnay]

Is he forcing it on anybody? No.

LOL! Everything is Awesome. Go back to sleep.

[donnay]

Is he forcing it on anybody? No.

To maintain current population levels, you need to kill of 70 million every year. A WWII every year. To get to 500 million you need to get rid of 70% of the entire world. Quietly, secretly, without raising alarm so they don't decide to toss you out.

LOL! Wars around the globe are doing a helluva job. Why do you think it has to be quietly, secretly and without raising the alarm--they are doing it all in plain view, my dear. Medical monopoly, wars, poisoning the food, water and air. I think they got it all covered.

[Zippyjuan]

Yep- that is why there are 70 million more (not fewer) people on the planet every year. Due to all the wars and Medical Monopoly and poison food and water and air killing everyone. They got it all figured out! (plus their own private air, water, and food so they don't have to use all that deadly stuff they are pouring all over us).

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/05/15/world-life-expectancy/9123889/


Life expectancy up worldwide; Japanese women live longest
Kim Painter, Special for USA TODAY 3:58 p.m. EDT May 15, 2014

People around the world continue to live longer, and in some poor countries the gains have been dramatic, the World Health Organization says in an annual report released Thursday.

The average girl born in 2012 can expect to reach 73 and the average boy can expect to reach 68. That gives them an average of six years more than children born in 1990, WHO says.

The United States does better than average, with a female life expectancy of 81 and male life expectancy of 76 – but ranks 37th overall and does not make the top 10 for either gender. Top honors go to Japan for women (87 years) and Iceland for men (81.2 years).

The best-improved countries include several that have made double-digit gains since 1990. Those include Liberia, which saw a 20-year increase (from 42 to 62); Ethiopia (from 45 to 64), Maldives (58 to 77), Cambodia (54 to 72), Timor-Leste (also known as East Timor) (50 to 66) and Rwanda (48 to 65).



More at link.

[tod evans]

70 Million People Would Be Starving in the Streets Without Government Welfare Programs

Good!

Let's get started already!

Hell, make it 75 million and fire the government administration that oversees the welfare programs..

[Christian Liberty]

@tod evans- I hope you were joking with that last post. You really think the idea of people starving due to government cuts in welfare programs is a GOOD thing? Mind you, I think they should be cut regardless because theft is always wrong. But I would hold that charities and churches that are able would pick up the slack. Are you really saying you WANT 70 million people to die? Or are you joking/wording your point poorly?

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I haven't had a steady job in years and somehow I'm not starving :eek:

[Philhelm]

What do Christians have to do with it?

Some of us (including yours truly) don't want the State to exist AT ALL.

The average evangelical Christian voter may be a sucker for the warfare state, but he doesn't want nearly as much welfare as the average liberal Democrat.

Why Christians specifically here? I know there are plenty of people, both Christians and non-Christians, to blame here. But why Christians specifically?

Relax. It was meant sarcastically as the Christian churches would be a primary source of charity despite the fact that it's trendy to hate them. We can't have people swallowing their pride and go crawling to the church - that would cramp the State's style.

[Ronin Truth]

You volunteering to leave? Actually no, but I've got a list.

[Ronin Truth]

Can he afford the expat tax? Probably not. How much is it?

[KCIndy]

I hate to sound cruel... I really do.

But....

The truth is, I know people who are on welfare who would NOT starve if the welfare was suddenly cut off. Instead, these people would be off the couch and working the productive jobs they *refuse* to take as long as they're able to draw welfare.

Some people really do need a hand up.

Others just need a good, swift kick in the ass.


:(

[Bman]

There'd also be no roads, no planet Earth, NO UNIVERSE!!!

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I hate to sound cruel... I really do.

But....

The truth is, I know people who are on welfare who would NOT starve if the welfare was suddenly cut off. Instead, these people would be off the couch and working the productive jobs they *refuse* to take as long as they're able to draw welfare.

Some people really do need a hand up.

Others just need a good, swift kick in the ass.


:(
I would rather starve than work at taco bell

Seriously though government is always the problem

Imagine not having a job, owning a house with no mortgage, yet you are somehow obligated to pay up thousands of dollars a year that you don't even make.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

There'd also be no roads, no planet Earth, NO UNIVERSE!!!

No paved roads in exchange for no government? SIGN ME UP

[tod evans]

@tod evans- I hope you were joking with that last post. You really think the idea of people starving due to government cuts in welfare programs is a GOOD thing? Mind you, I think they should be cut regardless because theft is always wrong. But I would hold that charities and churches that are able would pick up the slack. Are you really saying you WANT 70 million people to die? Or are you joking/wording your point poorly?

I'm calling their bluff......

The statement is complete horseshit.

However, the government employees might actually starve because their idea of "work" isn't based in reality..

[DamianTV]

I'm calling their bluff......

The statement is complete horseshit.

However, the government employees might actually starve because their idea of "work" isn't based in reality..

What Govt Employees define as work, most honest people would define as "theft" if they understood their methods...

[Cutlerzzz]

Remember all the mass famines that took place before the government introduced food stamps in the 60s? Thank for saving us from more of these famines, government.

[RonPaulIsGreat]

I'd have a tesla model S by now if there were no government welfare programs....

[otherone]

Remember all the mass famines that took place before the government introduced food stamps in the 60s? Thank for saving us from more of these famines, government.

http://themissouritorch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/lbj.png

[Legend1104]

http://themissouritorch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/lbj.png

Wow that is an amazing quote. I know that Johnson was pretty blunt but man that takes the cake.

[AuH20]

http://themissouritorch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/lbj.png

That would make a great billboard.

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/ijAMTKJ.jpg

[Christian Liberty]

I'm calling their bluff......

The statement is complete horseshit.

However, the government employees might actually starve because their idea of "work" isn't based in reality..
Oh, OK, fair enough.

I doubt the majority of government employees would starve. I do have to wonder what the crap that politicians would do though. I don't really feel that bad for them.

[tod evans]

I doubt the majority of government employees would starve.

What, pray-tell, do you think welfare administrators are qualified to do in a world where one is paid to produce anything?

[Christian Liberty]

What, pray-tell, do you think welfare administrators are qualified to do in a world where one is paid to produce anything?

Well, its possible that such people would go back to school and learn a trade, or get some kind of menial job (most people can flip burgers, lol) or possibly get charity.

[DamianTV]

Well, its possible that such people would go back to school and learn a trade, or get some kind of menial job (most people can flip burgers, lol) or possibly get charity.

Sure, a $100,000 four year degree to be qualified to flip burgers, mop floors, or empty trash cans, and said job pays minimum wage, part time, no health insurance (another financial burden). Sounds like a good investment. As far as the other jobs that said education would qualify a person for? They no longer exist.

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Remember that Govt will do its damnedest to absolve itself of any guilt, but will always claim to have a solution to whatever problems ail the public.

[FindLiberty]

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance

[thoughtomator]

If you turned the EBT system off, most cities in the US would be in civil disorder within 72 hours.

[tod evans]

If you turned the EBT system off, most cities in the US would be in civil disorder within 72 hours.

I say do it now!

[Christian Liberty]

Sure, a $100,000 four year degree to be qualified to flip burgers, mop floors, or empty trash cans, and said job pays minimum wage, part time, no health insurance (another financial burden). Sounds like a good investment. As far as the other jobs that said education would qualify a person for? They no longer exist.

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Remember that Govt will do its damnedest to absolve itself of any guilt, but will always claim to have a solution to whatever problems ail the public.

As bad as that situation would be, it still wouldn't be starving.


If you turned the EBT system off, most cities in the US would be in civil disorder within 72 hours.

What does EBT stand for?

[tod evans]

What does EBT stand for?

https://www.ebt.acs-inc.com/

[DamianTV]

Chapter Jackson - It's Free Swipe Yo EBT (Explicit)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTTX35LNJo&feature=player_detailpage

(EBT = Food Stamps...)

[bolil]

I see. Birth control is death. Are condoms death? Is the Pill death? Implantable birth control is nothing new.

Yes- they want to kill us with slow death. As before when we have discussed this, then why are lifespans rising? Again, if that is their goal, they really suck at the execution.

If Bill Gates wants everybody's money, how come he is giving all his away?


All I have to say is: Antibiotic Resistant Strain. I read this book on the Bubonic plague, and the author claimed that the severity of the plague was due to several factors: A population increase followed by a famine; concomitantly the next generation developed compromised immune systems. Throw in some Steppe Marmots and international trade and voila: Black Death.

Will it be a virus? Bacteria? Will it be synthetic or will it occur naturally? Won't matter nor will it be likely anyone will be able to prove one or the other. All theye will need to do is take a subterranean vacation and, when the time is right, re-emerge and pick up the pieces. Its not like those with extreme wealth or political connections are building bunkers or anything, right?