Constitutional Paulicy
07-10-2014, 12:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7ZkKiRZoTU&feature=youtube_gdata
We are Glenn Greenwald & Murtaza Hussain, who just revealed the Muslim-American leaders spied on by the NSA & FBI. Ask Us Anything. (self.IAmA)
submitted 17 hours ago * by glenngreenwaldGlenn Greenwald
We are journalists at The Intercept. This morning, we published our three-month investigation identifying the Muslim American leaders who were subjected to invasive NSA & FBI email monitoring: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/07/09/under-surveillance/
We're here to take your questions, so ask us anything.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/486859554270232576
[–]Altras 99 points 17 hours ago
Glenn and Murtaza,
In your article, you cite a "FISA recap" spreadsheet that lists 7,485 e-mail addresses as monitored between 2002 and 2008. Is it your understanding that those 7,485 e-mail addresses are the only ones monitored under FISA court orders during that period?
Also, have you seen any evidence in the Snowden documents that NSA has targeted the communications of US persons absent a FISA court order?
[–]MurtazaHussainMurtaza Hussain 103 points 16 hours ago
We are necessarily limited to only being able to comment on the implications of what we are able to see, from what has been recorded in the documents we have. It is a fair assumption that were there activities out there that are extremely egregious and would want to be hidden even internally within an organization, these would not be recorded. As such, we are unable to prove a negative in this case.
Having said that, when such immense power is exercised in private such abuses inevitably tend to manifest. What we have documented is deeply significant and evidently shocking to many people; if there are undocumented processes being conducted those would likely be considered even more distressing.
[–]glenngreenwaldGlenn Greenwald[S] 105 points 16 hours ago
In your article, you cite a "FISA recap" spreadsheet that lists 7,485 e-mail addresses as monitored between 2002 and 2008. Is it your understanding that those 7,485 e-mail addresses are the only ones monitored under FISA court orders during that period?
We cannot say at all that these were the only emails monitored - either under FISA or some other way. There very well could be other lists we don't have.
Also, it's important to realize that if the NSA thought some of their targets were plainly illegally selected, it's highly unlikely they'd put it down on paper, let alone go to the FISA court with it.
Also, have you seen any evidence in the Snowden documents that NSA has targeted the communications of US persons absent a FISA court order?
What caused us to hold our story last week is that DOJ and other officials began whispering to another news agency that at least one of the people we named (Nihad Awad) was monitored without a FISA warrant.
more here at reddit... http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2a8hn2/we_are_glenn_greenwald_murtaza_hussain_who_just/
We are Glenn Greenwald & Murtaza Hussain, who just revealed the Muslim-American leaders spied on by the NSA & FBI. Ask Us Anything. (self.IAmA)
submitted 17 hours ago * by glenngreenwaldGlenn Greenwald
We are journalists at The Intercept. This morning, we published our three-month investigation identifying the Muslim American leaders who were subjected to invasive NSA & FBI email monitoring: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/07/09/under-surveillance/
We're here to take your questions, so ask us anything.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/486859554270232576
[–]Altras 99 points 17 hours ago
Glenn and Murtaza,
In your article, you cite a "FISA recap" spreadsheet that lists 7,485 e-mail addresses as monitored between 2002 and 2008. Is it your understanding that those 7,485 e-mail addresses are the only ones monitored under FISA court orders during that period?
Also, have you seen any evidence in the Snowden documents that NSA has targeted the communications of US persons absent a FISA court order?
[–]MurtazaHussainMurtaza Hussain 103 points 16 hours ago
We are necessarily limited to only being able to comment on the implications of what we are able to see, from what has been recorded in the documents we have. It is a fair assumption that were there activities out there that are extremely egregious and would want to be hidden even internally within an organization, these would not be recorded. As such, we are unable to prove a negative in this case.
Having said that, when such immense power is exercised in private such abuses inevitably tend to manifest. What we have documented is deeply significant and evidently shocking to many people; if there are undocumented processes being conducted those would likely be considered even more distressing.
[–]glenngreenwaldGlenn Greenwald[S] 105 points 16 hours ago
In your article, you cite a "FISA recap" spreadsheet that lists 7,485 e-mail addresses as monitored between 2002 and 2008. Is it your understanding that those 7,485 e-mail addresses are the only ones monitored under FISA court orders during that period?
We cannot say at all that these were the only emails monitored - either under FISA or some other way. There very well could be other lists we don't have.
Also, it's important to realize that if the NSA thought some of their targets were plainly illegally selected, it's highly unlikely they'd put it down on paper, let alone go to the FISA court with it.
Also, have you seen any evidence in the Snowden documents that NSA has targeted the communications of US persons absent a FISA court order?
What caused us to hold our story last week is that DOJ and other officials began whispering to another news agency that at least one of the people we named (Nihad Awad) was monitored without a FISA warrant.
more here at reddit... http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2a8hn2/we_are_glenn_greenwald_murtaza_hussain_who_just/