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Anti Federalist
07-04-2014, 08:11 PM
You know, just in case you're curious...


For the Fourth, 5 Songs You May Not Know are Un-Patriotic

By Lillian Bozzone | July 2, 2014 | 13:24

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lillian-bozzone/2014/07/02/fourth-5-songs-you-may-not-know-are-un-patriotic?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Marketing&utm_term=Facebook&utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=5-songs

What music comes to mind when you think of America and Independence Day? “The Battle Hymn of the Republic?” A John Phillip Souza march? Glenn Miller or the Andrews Sisters?

Outside of country, there isn’t much music being made about America anymore. Oh, pop music is still filled with references. America’s favorite problem child, Miley Cyrus, turns up in nearly every 4th of July playlist with “Party In The U.S.A.” and Katy Perry’s “Firework” has also become an Independence Day party anthem. But Cyrus’ song mentions nothing American, except the “fame excess” of Hollywood. “Firework” just uses the 4th of July as a reference in the music video that features fireworks shooting from Perry’s breasts (which, one suspects, was the point of the song from its inception).

In rock n’ roll, there’s sadly a venerable tradition of flat out anti-Americanism, as “rebellious” young musicians have made piles of money off the very system they decry. Still, people want to feel good about their country on its birthday, and when pop/rock aficionados go looking for musical celebrations of the Land of the Free, well, they often get the opposite, whether they realize it or not.

Websites like Billboard.com and Celebuzz.com have compiled lists of the country’s most ‘American’ songs- turns out almost all of them are actually Anti-American.

Here are five of the worst offenders. God Bless America.

1. “Born In The U.S.A.” – Bruce Springsteen

“Born In The U.S.A.” has been misinterpreted as a pro-American rock anthem since it came out in the mid-1980s. Even Ronald Reagan praised Springsteen’s song for holding a message of hope for “America’s future.”

The song reflects Springsteen’s political stance of the Vietnam war, a position about which he has been very vocal.

Springsteen’s gruff vocals garble the controversial verses, making the chorus’ repetitive “Born In The U.S.A” the only interpretable lyrics. Conservative columnist, George Will, famously praised Springsteen’s values, saying “I have not got a clue about Springsteen's politics, if any, but flags get waved at his concerts while he sings songs about hard times. He is no whiner, and the recitation of closed factories and other problems always seems punctuated by a grand, cheerful affirmation: "Born in the U.S.A.!"

Clearly, Reagan, Will, and some Springsteen fans all missed the underlying criticism of America.

Got in a little hometown jam so they put a rifle in my hand

Sent me off to a foreign land to go and kill the yellow man

Born in the U.S.A.

Come back home to the refinery

Hiring man says "son if it was up to me"

Went down to see my V.A. man

He said "son don't you understand now"

Had a brother at Khe Sahn fighting off the Viet Cong

They're still there he's all gone

I'm ten years burning down the road

Nowhere to run ain't got nowhere to go

Born in the U.S.A.

Springsteen understood the temptation to take the song as a prideful anthem: “People got a need to feel good about the country they live in. But what's happening is … is gettin’ manipulated and exploited. And you see the Reagan reelection ads on TV – you know: “It’s morning in America.” And you say, well, it's not morning in Pittsburgh. It’s not morning above 125th Street in New York.” Luckily, a vast majority of Americans agreed with The Gipper, not The Boss.

2. “American Woman” – Lenny Kravitz

Lenny Kravitz’s cover of “American Woman” has been mistakenly perceived as a sexual tribute to American women. The original “American Woman,” written by the Canadian band, ‘The Guess Who’ was intended as a protest song against the Vietnam war. The identity of the ‘American Woman’ in The Guess Who’s version is the country of America itself- Kravitz on the other hand, addresses a real woman as he unconvincingly demands to be left alone.

Kravitz’s sexualized version of the song camouflages The Guess Who’s anti-American lyrics,

American woman, I said, get away

American woman, listen what I say

Don't come hanging ‘round my door

Don't want to see your face no more

I don't need your war machines

I don't need your ghetto scenes.

The song apparently happened by accident. The Guess Who guitarist Randy Bachman started playing the riff at a concert. “I yelled out, ‘Sing something!’ So out of the blue Burton just screamed, ‘American Woman, stay away from me!’ That was the song, the riff and Burton yelling that line over and over. Later, he added other lines like ‘I don’t need your war machine, you ghetto scenes.’ Before America knew it, it was a #1 record and it was a protest song.”

The Guess Who bassist Jim Kale said the song wasn’t anti-American: “The fact was, we came from a very strait-laced, conservative, laid-back country, and all of a sudden, there we were in Chicago, Detroit, New York — all these horrendously large places with their big city problems.”

3. “American Idiot” – Green Day

Well, maybe this one you did know is anti-American, but it's too hateful to leave off this list.

It comes from another Canadian band.

(Billie Joe and the boys make their point. Green Day is not a Canadian band. - AF)

In it Green Day’s Billie Joe Armstrong blatantly and vulgarly attacks the entire nation of America. To respond to this offense, Americans bought over 6 million copies of the album and awarded them with a Grammy. For a band that hates America so much, they sure don’t mind taking the money of the very Americans they attack.



Don't wanna be an American idiot.

Don't want a nation under the new mania

And can you hear the sound of hysteria?

The subliminal mind fuck America.

Well maybe I'm the ****** America.

I'm not a part of a redneck agenda.

Now everybody do the propaganda.

And sing along to the age of paranoia.

Don't want to be an American idiot.

One nation controlled by the media.

Information age of hysteria.

It's calling out to idiot America.

Charming. And Armstrong didn’t care if he was in Britain – “Let every redneck in America hear you,” he encouraged the audience, who chanted “idiot America!” – or Texas. “When you say "Fuck George W. Bush" in a packed arena in Texas,” he told Rolling Stone, “that’s an accomplishment, because you’re saying it to the unconverted.”

4. “Pink Houses” – John Mellencamp

According to the New York Daily News, after the 9-11 attacks, John Mellencamp (nee John Couger-Mellencamp, nee John Couger) was uncomfortable with the “rally ‘round the flag” ethos of the moment. “In the shows, people would chant, ‘U.S.A! U.S.A!’ It's frightening to me. I would go into another song so they couldn't get it going.” Odd for the famous heartland rocker.

But not if you look closely at his catalog. Responsible for a plethora of anti-American songs, John Cougar Mellencamp’s ‘Pink Houses’ is the most recognizable and misinterpreted. Mellencamp himself stated that Pink Houses is “...really an anti-American song.” Criticizing the failed American dream, Mellencamp pities the unfortunate Americans who do not live wealthy lifestyles.

There's a black man with a black cat

Livin' in a black neighborhood

He's got an interstate

Runnin' through his front yard

You know he thinks that he's got it so good

Mellencamp blames the country that has made his own American dream possible as he sarcastically drawls “ain’t that America, for you and me ... Home of the free, little pink houses for you and me.”

5. “Fortunate Son” – Creedence Clearwater Revival

Creedence Clearwater Revival’s ‘Fortunate Son’ criticizes nationalistic imperialism and has been used as a protest to military activity. ‘Fortunate Son’ refers to the white privileged men who supported the war in Vietnam, but never had to fight because of their elite social status, “I ain’t no senator’s son,” “I ain’t no millionaire’s son.” Creator of ‘Fortunate Son’, John Fogerty, told Rolling Stone that he was inspired by the marriage of President Dwight David Eisenhower’s son and President Richard Nixon’s daughter. Fogerty stated, “...you just had a feeling that none of these people were going to be involved in the war.”

Fogerty, who was drafted into the war in 1966, explains the anti-establishment song, "It's the old saying about rich men making war and poor men having to fight them."


Yeah, some folks inherit star spangled eyes

Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord

And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"

Oh, they only answer, more, more, more, oh

It ain't me, it ain't me

I ain't no military son

It ain't me, it ain't me

I ain't no fortunate one

ChristianAnarchist
07-04-2014, 08:40 PM
Hey, I grew up in the 60's. I know those songs were anti-war-in-Vietnam... So was I (well, I guess I still am)...

Carson
07-04-2014, 08:44 PM
No. I'm pretty sure they are patriotic of the highest order.





"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time,
and your government when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain

PRB
07-04-2014, 09:13 PM
sorry, what kind of idiot WOULDN'T know that American Idiot wasn't meant to be patriotic?

What about America FUCK Yeah?

Dr.3D
07-04-2014, 10:00 PM
And a little sarcasm....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-vGYejYyGU

Henry Rogue
07-04-2014, 10:35 PM
Mellencamp blames the country that has made his own American dream possible as he sarcastically drawls “ain’t that America, for you and me ...*
That's a lot like obama saying "you didn’t build that". Seems like the author is confusing nationalism with market transactions.

invisible
07-05-2014, 12:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m-GUCSNxmc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m-GUCSNxmc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_7V3xuv03c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_7V3xuv03c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq1M-zsiPao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq1M-zsiPao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3VqY9dp8SE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3VqY9dp8SE

invisible
07-05-2014, 12:28 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M-47OKl_OM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M-47OKl_OM

Or maybe not, guess that one won't embed for some reason. Still worthwhile, though.

Spikender
07-05-2014, 01:11 AM
Typical Newsbusters busting a patriotic nut.

Coincidentally, all of the songs they mentioned are on my playlist on Youtube. I'm not even a Green Day fan, but American Idiot is the one song of theirs I don't mind blaring whenever I see something from a 'Mercian that pisses me off.

Besides, Newsbusters is unpatriotic themselves, they constantly question our President. He's our President, right or wrong, we have to support him to show we are true Americans.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
07-05-2014, 03:32 AM
I always thought it funny how the big government conserve-tard attempts to monopolize what it means to be American. Anybody outside of their definition is anti-American.

No, sorry, conservative pansy. I'm not anti-American. I'm just anti-you.

Anti Federalist
07-05-2014, 06:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxroiTRg7Tg

tod evans
07-05-2014, 06:40 AM
Just 'cause son and I are packing up for an Ozark float trip....:cool:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8&feature=kp

Todd
07-05-2014, 06:43 AM
I knew all of those songs weren't patriotic.

I always found it interesting how many of my friends and just people in general, had no clue how many of the Heavy metal bands we all listened to wrote anti-war songs too.

otherone
07-05-2014, 07:09 AM
For all the little OWS Progs out there...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA&feature=kp

Dary
07-05-2014, 10:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPVrFIP0CMs

ProIndividual
07-05-2014, 11:12 AM
I do not agree that some of these songs are "anti-patriotic"...they are anti-stupid, anti-warmonger, anti-nationalist, anti-bad government policies. They may be anti-nationalist, but they aren't necessarily against the land and the people who share it (which is what patria, the original form of the word "patriot" means..."countrymen", not "fellows under the same government").

Who here thinks Vietnam was necessary and just, not a war of choice and warmongering?

Who here thinks Iraq was just?

These are EXTREMELY patriotic songs, precisely because they are anti-nationalist, anti-flag waving, anti-war, etc.

And The Battle Hymn of the Republic is actually "John Brown's Body"...a song celebrating an abolitionist/terrorist/freedom fighter (the lines are blurry, as they always are and should be, for those who act violently for just causes - I'm against the violence, but freedom fighter and terrorist are just labels that depend what side you're on)...it's a decidedly patriotic and anti-nationalist song to be sure. It calls Virginia's lawmakers and court system "they themselves the traitor crew" for accusing Brown of treason. Sound familiar (Snowden's critics calling him a traitor, while they cheerlead for violations of privacy rights and the 4th Amendment with flimsy excuses as to why).

And Lemmy from Motorhead is an anarchist...he's therefore a libertarian. He's not communist or anything either, for those who would falsely label him as one of those "leftists" who hate us.

Melloncamp's song also is criticizing eminent domain with the lyrics quoted, and the nationalism of calling people free who are clearly being screwed by the current system (and he doesn't go into detail about what that problem is with the system). He also has many songs that further illustrate his hate for eminent domain laws, especially in regard to farmers, and his love of his country (the people and land, not the state).



The author of the article (not the poster of the article) is a nationalist cultist who can't separate "country" from "state". That, or he's being sarcastic.

Here's my additions to the thread:

Living Colour - Cult of Personality (about the dangers of viewing rulers as "leaders", and having some affinity for them as if THEY are important, not the ideas)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0

Propagandhi - Stick The Fucking Flag Up Your Goddam Ass, You Sonofabitch (an anti-troop worship song; it recognizes that troops who kill based on lies or not, when it isn't self defensive ONLY, are in fact murderers for the state...so rightfully, fuck them)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrfwNxuFowE

ARCH ENEMY - Under Black Flags We March (singer is an anarchist from Germany, the band are from Sweden, and most of their music since she became their singer are about anarchism in general...this song focuses on the wet dream of anarchists to violently revolt and win...a romantic fantasy that anarchists much love, but must resist at all times...this is that fantasy)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1SlcO0Fikc

Otep - Rise, Rebel, Resist (this song is about a lot of law-based and social norm-based tyrannies, and the outrage to them....again the singer is an anarchist)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm9PDMZK9NE

heavenlyboy34
07-05-2014, 11:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxroiTRg7Tg


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again. :( :/

Haven't heard that one in a few years...Спасибо большой, comrade.

pcosmar
07-05-2014, 11:32 AM
The Grateful Dead were contracted for a song for the centennial..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdPOAhBp2Ag&feature=kp

But I think "Me and my Uncle" (Sam) is a better one

acptulsa
07-05-2014, 11:51 AM
The Grateful Dead were contracted for a song for the centennial...

LOL Bicentennial, Pete.

Let's not age the gentlemen any faster than they are aging themselves... :)

invisible
07-05-2014, 12:31 PM
The Grateful Dead were contracted for a song for the centennial..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdPOAhBp2Ag&feature=kp

But I think "Me and my Uncle" (Sam) is a better one

Hot Tuna - Uncle Sam Blues also immediately came to mind as well, but I didn't think either of those were "barbed" enough, lyric-wise. Can't forget this one, either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGTzMvXTUiY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGTzMvXTUiY

acptulsa
07-05-2014, 12:48 PM
Hot Tuna - Uncle Sam Blues...

Who cares if they're barbed enough? It's Hot Tuna!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltDMr7IVg9A

Recent years have sort of made this a 'patriotic song' in the same vein, too...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q

Anti Federalist
07-06-2014, 11:45 AM
LOL Bicentennial, Pete.

Let's not age the gentlemen any faster than they are aging themselves... :)

That made me chuckle...

jmdrake
07-06-2014, 10:04 PM
I remember when I first started to see media propaganda for what it is. The "Today Show" did a segment during the first Gulf War about how all the song in this war were "supporting the war effort." Supposedly Sean Lennon doing a remake of his dad's famous anti war effort "Give peace a chance" was real pro war this time around.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD0RTawcIwg

And supposedly Bett Midler's song "From a distance" was all about supporting the troops. But this lyric was ignored by the media sycophants.

From a distance you look like my friend
even though we are at war.
From a distance I just can't comprehend
what all this fighting is for.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKzd2Wh3xNk&list=RDOKzd2Wh3xNk

The only song these media morons were willing to admit was anti war was the Rolling Stones "High Wire"

We sell 'em missiles, We sell 'em tanks
We give 'em credit, You can call up the bank
It's just a business, You can pay us in crude
You'll love these toys, just go play out your feuds
We got no pride, don't know whose boots to lick
We act so greedy, makes me sick sick sick

So get up, stand up, out of my way
I wanna talk to the boss right away
Get up, stand up, who's gonna pay
I wanna talk to the man right away

We walk the highwire
Sending men to the front line
And hoping they don't catch the hell-fire
Of hot guns and cold, cold lies

We walk the highwire
Send the men to the front lines
And tell 'em to hotbed the sunshine
With hot guns and cold, cold lies

Our lives are threatened, our jobs at risk
Sometimes dictators need a slap on the wrist
Another Munich we just can't afford
We're gonna send in the 82nd Airborne


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjwIhyMfvRY

Of course the good stuff this time around leaves nothing to imagination. Michael Franti "Time to go home."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSeuLsNV4CA

Thirty seconds to Mars : This is war.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcps2fJKuAI