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devil21
06-30-2014, 07:41 PM
Intriguing! Maybe someone with access is getting tired of Greenwald's hemming and hawing.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/30/remaining_snowden_documents_will_be_release_to_ave rt_war_cryptome/



All the remaining Snowden documents will be released next month, according t‪o‬ whistle-blowing site ‪Cryptome, which said in a tweet that the release of the info by unnamed third parties would be necessary to head off an unnamed "war".‬

‪Cryptome‬ said it would "aid and abet" the release of "57K to 1.7M" new documents that had been "withheld for national security-public debate [sic]".

The site clarified that will not be publishing the documents itself.

Transparency activists would welcome such a release but such a move would be heavily criticised by intel experts and military officials, who argue the dump of intelligence documents have set intelligence efforts back years.

As things stand, the flow of Snowden disclosures is controlled by those who have access to the Sn‪o‬wden archive, which might possibly include Snowden confidants such as Glenn Greenwald and Laura Potrias.

"July is when war begins unless headed off by Snowden full release of crippling intel. After war begins not a chance of release," Cryptome tweeted on its official feed. "Warmongerers are on a rampage. So, yes, citizens holding Snowden docs will do the right thing," it said.

"For more on Snowden docs release in July watch for Ellsberg, special guest and others at HOPE, July 18-20: http://www.hope.net/schedule.html," it added.

HOPE (Hackers On Planet Earth) is a well-regarded and long-running hacking conference organised by 2600 magazine. Previous speakers at the event have included Kevin Mitnick, Steve Wozniak and Jello Biafra.

In other developments, ‪Cryptome‬ has started a Kickstarter fund to release its entire archive in the form of a USB stick archive. It wants t‪o‬ raise $100,000 to help it achieve its goal. More than $14,000 has already been raised.

The funding drive follows a dispute between ‪Cryptome‬ and its host Network Solutions, which is owned by web.com. Access to the site was bl‪o‬cked f‪o‬ll‪o‬wing a malware infection last week. ‪Cryptome‬ f‪o‬under J‪o‬hn Y‪o‬ung criticised the host, claiming it had ‪o‬ver-reacted and had been sl‪o‬w t‪o‬ rest‪o‬re access t‪o‬ the site, which ‪Cryptome‬ criticised as a form of cens‪o‬rship.

In resp‪o‬nse, ‪Cryptome‬ plans to more widely distribute its content across multiple sites as well as releasing the planned USB stick archive.

FindLiberty
06-30-2014, 07:57 PM
It would probably be a good idea to avoid war, but is this the right/only way?

Maybe congress should just say no!

Zippyjuan
06-30-2014, 07:58 PM
I doubt he intends to release all of the documents he took (allegedly he doesn't even have them anymore). Always like the "unnamed third party" these things seem to involve. Never an actual source cited.


All the remaining Snowden documents will be released next month, according t‪o‬ whistle-blowing site ‪Cryptome, which said in a tweet that the release of the info by unnamed third parties would be necessary to head off an unnamed "war".‬


"July is when war begins unless headed off by Snowden full release of crippling intel. After war begins not a chance of release," Cryptome tweeted on its official feed. "Warmongerers are on a rampage. So, yes, citizens holding Snowden docs will do the right thing," it said.

Sounds more like a fundraiser press release by Cryptome.


In other developments, ‪Cryptome‬ has started a Kickstarter fund to release its entire archive in the form of a USB stick archive. It wants t‪o‬ raise $100,000 to help it achieve its goal. More than $14,000 has already been raised.

devil21
06-30-2014, 08:04 PM
I say dump it all and let the chips fall where they may. The layers of deception against the American people are so deep that one can barely begin to understand what reality is. We can only begin to make informed decisions when we know the truth.

Lucille
06-30-2014, 08:13 PM
I sure hope someone else has all the docs and is going to dump them all on the internet (http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2014/04/call-me-irresponsible-please.html), because Greenwald and Co. sure as hell ain't gonna do it.

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donnay
06-30-2014, 08:27 PM
I sure hope someone else has all the docs and is going to dump them all on the internet (http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2014/04/call-me-irresponsible-please.html), because Greenwald and Co. sure as hell ain't gonna do it.

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I agree. I am still not okay with Greenwald's business partnership with Pierre Omidyar and the book deals.

Dianne
06-30-2014, 09:02 PM
I say dump it all and let the chips fall where they may. The layers of deception against the American people are so deep that one can barely begin to understand what reality is. We can only begin to make informed decisions when we know the truth.

Agreed !!! Although nothing Snowden can drop will stop the second war in Iraq. It was staged and planned long ago.

Uriel999
07-01-2014, 08:08 AM
Agreed !!! Although nothing Snowden can drop will stop the second war in Iraq. It was staged and planned long ago.

Well he can't change the past unless he has a time machine. Now a THIRD war in Iraq...possibly.

CPUd
07-01-2014, 08:16 AM
Well he can't change the past unless he has a time machine. Now a THIRD war in Iraq...possibly.

Maybe that's what is in the docs!

tangent4ronpaul
07-01-2014, 09:37 AM
Sounds like the possible plea deal is off the table.

This news
Snowden now applying for a 1 year asylum extension in Russia
News that NSA is able to divert comm traffic out of CONUS in end run around Constitution.
Greenwald is hyping release of who NSA is spying on (maybe cryptome is thinking civil war)
DIRNSA media blitz today - leaks setback, but sky isn't falling...

So if war claims are real, which country(s)...

-t

ChristianAnarchist
07-01-2014, 10:42 AM
DUMP IT ALL!! NOW!!

jllundqu
07-01-2014, 11:02 AM
I keep hearing this over and over. "Another big release soon that will be DEVASTATING!" and nothing ever happens....

Put up or shut up.

Antischism
07-01-2014, 11:25 AM
I doubt he intends to release all of the documents he took (allegedly he doesn't even have them anymore). Always like the "unnamed third party" these things seem to involve. Never an actual source cited.





Sounds more like a fundraiser press release by Cryptome.

That sounds about right.

donnay
07-02-2014, 08:51 AM
Greenwald Halts Publication of US Citizens Who Are NSA Targets

by Mark Melin

The midnight release of US citizens targeted by the NSA - some said to be political activists - was halted shortly before a scheduled midnight release for largely unexplained reasons

If it wasn’t for last minute US government intervention, occurring last night just before the clock hit midnight, we would know the names American’s being spied on by the National Security Agency.

Last night at midnight journalist Glenn Greenwald was scheduled to release his biggest story yet, which is a significant claim in its own right as he has published some benchmark work in revealing the domestic spying capabilities of the US government.
Greenwald’s release of the names of NSA targets

Greenwald’s release of the names of US citizens – including controversial political activists – who the NSA was targeting was halted for reasons still not fully explained. The announcement came on Greenwald’s Twitter feed hours before the scheduled release when he said “After 3 months working on our story, USG (US Government) today suddenly began making new last-minute claims which we intend to investigate before publishing.”

Critics have charged that the NSA has built a mass surveillance state to rival the Nazis, Soviets or Stasis. The publication of the names of US citizens who might be targeted in the US for political rather than national security reasons would market a new low benchmark for the spy agency whose leaders are documented to have lied to the US public and Congress without any accountability.

Continued... (http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/07/publication-of-us-citizens-who-are-nsa-targets/)

wizardwatson
07-02-2014, 09:11 AM
Open borders

false flag

snowden docs

russia / ukraine / snowden in moscow

false flag and snowden docs flushes out and emboldens patriots

patriots demonized by administration, no support from populace who neither read nor understand docs

. . .

point is, what if the snowden docs were intentionally leaked so that patriots have what they need to rally around and take action.

we are in dangerous territory folks, we may be being played.

donnay
07-02-2014, 09:21 AM
Open borders

false flag

snowden docs

russia / ukraine / snowden in moscow

false flag and snowden docs flushes out and emboldens patriots

patriots demonized by administration, no support from populace who neither read nor understand docs

Your post reminded me of this song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g

. . .


point is, what if the snowden docs were intentionally leaked so that patriots have what they need to rally around and take action.

we are in dangerous territory folks, we may be being played.


I am afraid like a fiddle.

jllundqu
07-02-2014, 10:45 AM
Greenwald Halts Publication of US Citizens Who Are NSA Targets

by Mark Melin

The midnight release of US citizens targeted by the NSA - some said to be political activists - was halted shortly before a scheduled midnight release for largely unexplained reasons

If it wasn’t for last minute US government intervention, occurring last night just before the clock hit midnight, we would know the names American’s being spied on by the National Security Agency.

Last night at midnight journalist Glenn Greenwald was scheduled to release his biggest story yet, which is a significant claim in its own right as he has published some benchmark work in revealing the domestic spying capabilities of the US government.
Greenwald’s release of the names of NSA targets

Greenwald’s release of the names of US citizens – including controversial political activists – who the NSA was targeting was halted for reasons still not fully explained. The announcement came on Greenwald’s Twitter feed hours before the scheduled release when he said “After 3 months working on our story, USG (US Government) today suddenly began making new last-minute claims which we intend to investigate before publishing.”

Critics have charged that the NSA has built a mass surveillance state to rival the Nazis, Soviets or Stasis. The publication of the names of US citizens who might be targeted in the US for political rather than national security reasons would market a new low benchmark for the spy agency whose leaders are documented to have lied to the US public and Congress without any accountability.

Continued... (http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/07/publication-of-us-citizens-who-are-nsa-targets/)

Once again.... all talk and no show. If you have the docs, put them out, Glenn.... this is bordering on disinformation at this point. You have to get 'permission' from the US Gov before you kick them in the balls??

donnay
07-02-2014, 10:58 AM
Once again.... all talk and no show. If you have the docs, put them out, Glenn.... this is bordering on disinformation at this point. You have to get 'permission' from the US Gov before you kick them in the balls??


Yes...this way they control the narrative.

surf
07-02-2014, 11:02 AM
Once again.... all talk and no show. If you have the docs, put them out, Glenn.... this is bordering on disinformation at this point. You have to get 'permission' from the US Gov before you kick them in the balls??

Greenwald's a hero.

"all talk and no show." not sure what you've been watching, but it's been a helluva show so far.

HOLLYWOOD
07-02-2014, 11:04 AM
Yeah Greenwald :rolleyes: ...someone got to him.

WIKILEAKS far greater truth, facts, and journalism, which as usual, reciprocates with charges from the Mafioso thugs in .gov. When you see movies discrediting WIKILEAKS with propaganda lies like "The Fifth Estate" , you know who's on your side and who is with the cabal. You don't hear so much now from Fascist corporate media attacking Greenwald in the staged reporting and debates.

BUT... you see Congressional prejurist, General Keith ALexander, now offering his classified knowledge to the tune of $1 Million in consulting fees to each corporation/multinational in peddling his security operations knowledge in his around the world money making tour. The fucker should be in prison.

The entire NSA situation has been turned inside-out and upside-down. I'm sure Greenwald is sitting down with agents right now, on which "American Targets" to redact from the Snowmen documents.

America will get Fluffed again by the Wizard of Oz gang.


I sure hope someone else has all the docs and is going to dump them all on the internet (http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2014/04/call-me-irresponsible-please.html), because Greenwald and Co. sure as hell ain't gonna do it.

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