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tod evans
06-29-2014, 08:20 AM
From Drudge;


Martin Armstrong Warns Civil Unrest Is Rising Everywhere: "This Won't End Pretty"


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-28/martin-armstrong-warns-civil-unrest-rising-everywhere-wont-end-pretty


The greatest problem we have is misinformation. People simply do not comprehend why and how the economic policies of the post-war era are imploding. This whole agenda of socialism has sold a Utopian idea that the State is there for the people yet it is run by lawyers following their own self-interest. The pensions created for those in government drive the cost of government up exponentially with time. The political forces blame the rich and this merely creates a class warfare with no resolution for the future. Even confiscating all the wealth of the so-called rich will not sustain the system. Consequently, we just have to crash and burn and start all over again.

The Guardian reported that some 50,000 people marched in London to protest against austerity. They cried: “Who is really responsible for the mess this country is in? Is it the Polish fruit pickers or the Nigerian nurses? Or is it the bankers who plunged it into economic disaster – or the tax avoiders? It is selective anger.”

The exploitation by the bankers has been really a disaster. They have been their own worst enemy and in the end, they have become the symbol that inspires class warfare if not revolution. They are not the representatives of those who produce jobs. They are merely those who wanted to trade with other people’s money for free. When they win, it is their’s, but any losses are passed to the taxpayers. Bankers should be bankers – not hedge fund managers who keep 100% of the profits using other people’s savings.

The repeal of Glass Steagall was the final straw that broke the back of the world economy. That was the single worst act that could have ever been done and we are now paying the price in spades. The collapse from 2007 has wiped out even the liquidity of the markets. The second worst act was the creation of the euro when the real goal was the federalization of Europe from the outset. That undermined the entire European banking system and has led to a serious undermining of the entire global economy.

The solutions from politics will always be the same – grab more power. We are in a downward spiral of liberty and how far we go down this path to the future will be determined by the people and if they at least wise up and see this is not class warfare, it is the people against government. This is why I say career politicians are dangerous for they can be bought way too easily as Clinton was to open the flood gates for the bankers.

This is not going to end pretty. The question is when does society wake up? Just how high will this price be that we have to pay? They will blame the rich and the idiots will cheer – get them. What will happen when there is no more wealth to hunt? We end up with a communist state by default – no wealth, just career politicians who blame everyone but themselves.

Carson
06-29-2014, 08:31 AM
I believe the root cause of all of the unrest is that some are able to counterfeit up what ever it takes to get their way.

Maybe this will help make the danger of fake money clear.

Imagine you and me are setting across from each other. We create enough money to represent all of the world’s wealth. Each one of us has one SUPER Dollar in front of him.

You own half of everything and so do I.

I’m the government though. I get bribed into creating a Central Bank.

You’re not doing what I want you to be doing so I print up myself eight more SUPER Dollars to manipulate you with.

All of a sudden your SUPER Dollar only represents one tenth of the wealth of the world!

That isn’t the only thing though. You need to get busy and get to work because YOU’VE BEEN STIFFED with the bill for the money I PRINTED UP to get YOU TO DO what I WANTED.

That to me represents what has been happening to the economy, and us, and why so many of our occupations just can’t keep up with the fake money presses.

They have been beating us with our own stick!!!!1

osan
06-29-2014, 09:26 AM
From Drudge;


Martin Armstrong Warns Civil Unrest Is Rising Everywhere: "This Won't End Pretty"


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-28/martin-armstrong-warns-civil-unrest-rising-everywhere-wont-end-pretty


The greatest problem we have is misinformation.

Not THE, but one of them. There is a basic set and it is well summarized by "FAIL" - Fear, Avarice, Ignorance, Lassitude. Misinformation falls under "Ignorance".



People simply do not comprehend why and how the economic policies of the post-war era are imploding.

More ignorance, combined with lassitude --> willful ignorance, leading to willful stupidity, AKA "stoopidity".



This whole agenda of socialism has sold a Utopian idea lie that the State is there for the people yet it is run by lawyers following their own self-interest.

Fixed that for him.


The pensions created for those in government drive the cost of government up exponentially with time. The political forces blame the rich and this merely creates a class warfare with no resolution for the future. Even confiscating all the wealth of the so-called rich will not sustain the system. Consequently, we just have to crash and burn and start all over again.


Lie. If it's not on the news, it ain't true. Media is our friend, comrade.


The repeal of Glass Steagall was the final straw that broke the back of the world economy. That was the single worst act that could have ever been done and we are now paying the price in spades. The collapse from 2007 has wiped out even the liquidity of the markets. The second worst act was the creation of the euro when the real goal was the federalization of Europe from the outset. That undermined the entire European banking system and has led to a serious undermining of the entire global economy.

Here I suspect he is off the mark, at least partially. The truth depends on the general state of the society in question. In a world where the average man is smart and absolutely rigid in his defense of private property and those deriving therefrom, there would be no need for nanny-state statute such as this. In the present world, the current state being attributable to NOTHING other than governmental interference in the private affairs of people, law such as that captioned above become "necessary" based on the tacit presumption that people need protection from such scurrilous misadventure by bankers and other scoundrels. While in a sense it is true, the approach to such protection is as lousy as it could possibly be. The brands of acts such statutes address are in fact crimes in most cases, as far as I can see. Were we to punish such criminals properly, and I emphasize "punishment", there would be very little of this brand of thing going on. If a mutual-fund manager knew he faced potentially 20 years at HARD LABOR on a chain gang if he is caught at pulling the brands of chicanery that came so ubiquitously to light in 2008 and that his entire estate would be at stake as collateral in recompense to his victims and that his children stood to be thrown on to the streets, I daresay that all but the most criminally hardened sorts would think thrice and ten times before deciding no fortune was worth that sort of risk.

None of these problems are intractable as the progressives would have you believe. They are pathological liars and intellectually bankrupt fops living in some wildly masturbatory fantasy about a perfect world, that they naturally control, and wherein all the people are happy, compliant little fungible units to be moved this way and that, like those green plastic toy soldiers some of us played with as children. They are demented and highly dangerous and must be put out of commission by one means or another. I fully support the notion of killing them if it becomes necessary, though I would find that to be a most regrettable last resort. The far better solution is to raise up our children to recognize these brands of defective persons and maintain them on very short political leashes with great vigor and vigilance.


The solutions from politics will always be the same – grab more power. We are in a downward spiral of liberty and how far we go down this path to the future will be determined by the people and if they at least wise up and see this is not class warfare, it is the people against government. This is why I say career politicians are dangerous for they can be bought way too easily as Clinton was to open the flood gates for the bankers.

They will NOT likely wise up. Why? Because they steadfastly refuse the truth, always accepting the false explanations that allow them to remain wed to the bankrupt ideas to which they have welded themselves pursuant to the personal weakness made manifest in the morbid desire for an impossible world of endless bunnies and light.


This is not going to end pretty. The question is when does society wake up? Just how high will this price be that we have to pay? They will blame the rich and the idiots will cheer – get them. What will happen when there is no more wealth to hunt? We end up with a communist state by default – no wealth, just career politicians who blame everyone but themselves.

Agreed. No matter how this pans out, it will be ugly. If we "wake up", those of the hard-core progressive bent who are on the average of a helpless character, unskilled in those things that I believe are fundamentally important to proper living, are going to suffer greatly because they will be faced with the choice of getting with the program or dying... if the rest of us have the sense not to come running to their whining rescue.

If we don't wake up, we relegate ourselves and our posterity to a future as effective slaves.

If we wake up too late, so to speak, and war ensues... need I say more?

The future is going to be shit for awhile no matter what happens. The author writes truthfully.

pcosmar
06-29-2014, 09:36 AM
Civil unrest needs to quit being civil.

tod evans
06-29-2014, 09:47 AM
Civil unrest needs to quit being civil.

It will..........................When is the question..

Uriel999
06-29-2014, 12:31 PM
hope for peace and prepare for war

Tod
06-29-2014, 03:49 PM
I was listening to Stephan Molyneux's "The Truth About Che Guevara"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eMLk1nQh5o&list=PLMNj_r5bccUyulYsatrzNGIv asrOeBy_Y

And found it interesting that there was a lot less fighting in the Cuban Revolution than I realized, if Stephan is to be believed. According to him, a lot of allegiances were changed with nothing more than a little bribery.

Anti Federalist
06-29-2014, 04:47 PM
Thing is...it is not.

Civil unrest?

Pffft, when I was a young kid, whole cities were burning down, "terrorists" were setting off bombs left and right, and Puerto Rican separatists shot up congress, among other things.

In my reading of history, never before has AmeriKa been more docile and compliant.

Civil unrest? Shit...

These people today would apologize for stepping on the guard's toes as they got shoved into the "showers".

But at the same time they are the most uptight and neurotic of nanny state busybodies.

A piss poor combination.

Theocrat
06-29-2014, 05:46 PM
For some strange reason, the OP reminded me of this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ5U8suTUw0

Dark_Horse_Rider
06-29-2014, 06:05 PM
the militarization of the police was planned , not a random convenience

they know the gig is nearly up

Natural Citizen
06-29-2014, 06:14 PM
Thing is...it is not.

Civil unrest?

Pffft, when I was a young kid, whole cities were burning down, "terrorists" were setting off bombs left and right, and Puerto Rican separatists shot up congress, among other things.

In my reading of history, never before has AmeriKa been more docile and compliant.

Civil unrest? Shit...

These people today would apologize for stepping on the guard's toes as they got shoved into the "showers".

But at the same time they are the most uptight and neurotic of nanny state busybodies.

A piss poor combination.

Eyyyyep...

Danke
08-31-2017, 05:57 AM
Bump

Raginfridus
08-31-2017, 09:11 AM
How do you measure civil unrest in America? You take Facebook friends x tweets per hour, divided by the line at Starbucks.

shakey1
08-31-2017, 10:21 AM
the militarization of the police was planned , not a random convenience

they know the gig is nearly up

It will happen... all in good time.

jllundqu
08-31-2017, 11:08 AM
I'm as much of a catastrophist as the next guy, but I think there are some cards left to play before things get really bad. I also agree with AF's assertion that majority of people are too weak and flaccid to mount any effective resistance. There are some wild cards though. Police and military are largely conservative and won't align with overtly draconian bullshit. Huge swaths of the country are still largely self-reliant and don't really give a shit about the coasts. I think civil war is most likely scenario, and I also think that fight won't really even be a fight at all. If TPTB really want to consolidate power, they will need more than a 'civil war'. I think something more along the lines of global war, global pandemic, or the tried and true crash the economy into the dirt.

TL;DR Civil war won't really be a war, but an economic collapse will be the most effective means for TPTB to consolidate power.