OFFICIAL Mississippi U.S. Senate Election RESULTS THREAD

[Bastiat's The Law]

Chris McDaniel vs. Thad Cochran

http://images.politico.com/global/2014/02/18/140218_mcdaniel_cochran_otg_ap_605.jpg

[Bastiat's The Law]

Any early word from those on the ground in Mississippi?

Wait, go vote first before you give the political junkies on RPF their fix. ;)

[ChristianAnarchist]

One thing to watch for is the "late results" from the small counties. Thad is well connected and corrupt. I do not discount the possibility of some fraud in the small counties where there's no oversight of the ballot handling. If you see a turnout in some little county that's 400% of the norm and it's 73% for Thad, I'd say something stinks...

[Bastiat's The Law]

If you haven't been keeping up with this election, Ron Paul actually visited Hattiesburg (http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/06/14/ron-paul-endorses-mcdaniel/10539997/) to endorse Chris McDaniel in person. Meanwhile, John McCain (http://gifs.gifbin.com/072009/1246883354_evil_john_mccain.gif) is out stumping for Thad Cochran. Looks like the making of another proxy battle between the Liberty Movement and the Republican establishment.

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c335506c6254a95dae0eba45359d9563096efc9a/c=0-82-1935-1533&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/Hattiesburg/2014/06/14/mississippisenaterace06.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqIB8UrCEAILmE8.jpg:medium

[Bastiat's The Law]

Thirty-nine of the 82 counties were settled by a margin of 200 votes or fewer in the primary, in a race that ended up handing McDaniel the first-place position by fewer than 1,400 votes. Had those counties each moved 40 votes in the other direction, the results of the race would have been flipped. This is a graph of the vote margin in each of the state's counties in the primary. That long flat stretch in the middle shows those 39 counties mentioned above. But pay attention to the spikes at either end.

At the far left is Jones County. Calling it a stronghold for McDaniel doesn't really do it justice. He won the county -- which he is from -- by a 71-percentage-point margin. If McDaniel had won the county by a margin of 75-25 percent (instead of 85-14), Cochran would have come in first place.

It's not clear that Cochran will pick up many new votes in Jones County. But lower turnout could be helpful to Cochran. The county had the seventh-highest vote total in the primary, despite being the tenth-largest county in the state. If turnout declines, that will certainly help the incumbent

http://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2014/06/counties.png

[William Tell]

Is this the official thread for results from the other states as well?

[JK/SEA]

no.

[Kage127]

Voted this morning. There weren't as many people this time as before but I went an hour later than last time. I honestly think the politically active democrats will determine the outcome of this race. I got 2 additional people to go vote who didn't last time and tried selling a democrat on it but she sounded too up in the air so I decided not to remind her the vote was today. I am expecting less turnout in general. A lot of the signs in the area had been taken down and I haven't heard as much about the runoff as I did the primary election. Hope we end the day with great news for the freedom movement.

[Mr.NoSmile]

Going by Cochran's Facebook page at this point, they seem to talk of higher turnout. Whether that's true, early talk or just hype, I don't know. But hopefully the folks who backed McDaniel do the same and prove that they're not just talk without action. The higher-ups do have a habit of renegading when things don't go their way.

[torchbearer]

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[Bastiat's The Law]

Voted this morning. There weren't as many people this time as before but I went an hour later than last time. I honestly think the politically active democrats will determine the outcome of this race. I got 2 additional people to go vote who didn't last time and tried selling a democrat on it but she sounded too up in the air so I decided not to remind her the vote was today. I am expecting less turnout in general. A lot of the signs in the area had been taken down and I haven't heard as much about the runoff as I did the primary election. Hope we end the day with great news for the freedom movement.

I've heard conflicting arguments whether less turn out helps or hurts McDaniel.

[William Tell]

I've heard conflicting arguments whether less turn out helps or hurts McDaniel.

It totally depends on who turns out.:D

[Bastiat's The Law]

It totally depends on who turns out.:D

True, lol.

[Vanguard101]

Ron Paul must really like this guy

[Bastiat's The Law]

Ron Paul must really like this guy

Begs the question. How good of a senator would Chris McDaniel be? Would be on par with Ted Cruz or Mike Lee?

[Matt Collins]

Begs the question. How good of a senator would Chris McDaniel be? Would be on par with Ted Cruz or Mike Lee?
Yes

[William Tell]

Begs the question. How good of a senator would Chris McDaniel be? Would be on par with Ted Cruz or Mike Lee?

I'm hoping better than Cruz. He strikes me as a guy who might be the next big thing. He just has to be more in the spotlight than Lee, It would be nice if he is even better than Lee. But that seems to good to be true. McDaniel will either let down Santorum, or Ron Paul, we shall see which since both endorsed him.

[Valli6]

Ron Paul must really like this guy
Don't think this has been posted yet.
(6/23/14 - by MATTHEW BOYLE)

RON PAUL: ESTABLISHMENT 'PANICKING' THAT MCDANIEL MAY BECOME US SENATOR

BILOXI, Mississippi — Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), a 2012 presidential candidate and one of state Sen. Chris McDaniel’s big name endorsers over Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS), told Breitbart News in a phone interview that he thinks the Washington, D.C., political establishment is “panicking” now that McDaniel may win his runoff on Tuesday.

“They’re panicking, I guess,” Paul said when asked about how the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC), at the direction of Mitch McConnell, raised more than $800,000 for Cochran in one night, while former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg has pumped a quarter million into Mississippi on Cochran’s behalf.

“But I think it’s a sign of what’s happening and how desperate they are,” Paul said. “I don’t think the money does him any good, but I think what happens is when all these people come in like Bloomberg it makes the case for our side because Bloomberg has a tremendous political image.”

Paul added that it “seems like they [Cochran’s campaign] don’t even have good political judgment” by allowing the Bloomberg donation to happen. He points to when he ran for his first term in his second stint in the House after a 12-year break during which he practiced medicine again, and he noted that all the GOP establishment came in for his opponent.

“The more they came, the more I emphasized it,” he said. “Why do you need somebody from Washington, D.C., or out of state to tell you how to vote? So I turned it into a positive and the people resented it. The more the people came [from out of state], the more they resented it. I think that might be what’s happening over there. Why does somebody from New York City think they can tell Mississippi how to vote?”.... (more)

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/23/Exclusive-Ron-Paul-Washington-Establishment-Panicking-That-McDaniel-May-Become-US-Senator

[RPfan1992]

An interesting article from The Blaze. The Blaze predicts McDaniels will win


Here’s Why a Stats Guru Says Tea Party Candidate Chris McDaniel Will Likely Beat Thad Cochran on Tuesday

A prominent statistician has spoken: the Mississippi GOP primary run-off looks grim for incumbent Sen. Thad Cochran.

Nate Silver, the former New York Times statistician now with ESPN’s FiveThirtyEight, tweeted that, according to his site’s analysis, Cochran could well lose the Tuesday run-off against Tea Party challenger Chris McDaniel unless Cochran pulls in voters from the other side of the aisle.

Thad Cochran will probably lose tonight unless he gets some Democrats to turn out for him, reports @ForecasterEnten: http://t.co/X64SW5mbCp

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) June 24, 2014


FiveThirtyEight’s analysis of the race indicates McDaniel has a strong lead, and points to the heavily-Republican Rankin County as a pivotal spot in the race, where a strong performance by either candidate could swing the race.RealClearPolitics’s polling average found McDaniel with a 6.3 percent advantage over Cochran Tuesday morning.

Cochran has been reaching out to black voters, who in Mississippi skew heavily Democrat, though questions have arisen about the extent of that outreach.

In Mississippi, any resident can vote in a party’s primary (a registered Democrat, for example, can vote in the Republican primary). But some observers have noted that it could be illegal for Democrats to vote in the Republican primary — or more precisely, Mississippi state law prohibits voters from participating in a party’s primary if they don’t intend to support that party’s candidates in the general election.

As Slate reported, legal decisions have rendered that rule effectively unenforceable.

Unless a voter marches up to a poll worker and declares their intention to participate in the GOP primary and then vote for the Democrat in the general election, it seems their participation can’t really be questioned.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/24/heres-why-a-stats-guru-says-tea-party-candidate-chris-mcdaniel-will-likely-beat-thad-cochran-on-tuesday/

[AuH20]

This would be a huge turn of events. Cochran is an old time stooge in the mold of McConnell.

[Bastiat's The Law]

So we'd be trading in one of the top 5 worst republicans for McDaniel who would move into the top 5 best?

[AuH20]

So we'd be trading in one of the top 5 worst republicans for McDaniel who would move into the top 5 best?

http://www.freedomworks.org/content/senator-thad-cochrans-top-ten-worst-votes

[AuH20]

Here comes the undead! Johnny McCain to the rescue...

http://azstarnet.com/news/state-and-regional/mccain-urges-military-supporters-to-back-cochran/article_b0ad9e66-4fa4-51f1-866c-28e41b6a0105.html


McCain and other Cochran supporters highlighted the incumbent's support for the military in their push against the tea party-backed challenger. McCain said that Cochran, a fellow Navy veteran, has been a steady ally of military spending and readiness.

"I call on my fellow veterans, I call on my fellow service members to send Thad Cochran, a good and decent and honorable senator, back to the United States Senate," McCain told an audience of about 200 at the War Memorial auditorium in downtown Jackson.

[AuH20]

Did anyone read this tripe?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/06/20/black_voters_in_mississippi_should_go_for_thad_coc hran_in_the_run_off_election.html


At the same time, Cochran isn't an ideologue, and—during his six terms—has funneled tens of billions in earmarks and funds to Mississippi, propping the state's economy and creating jobs for thousands of his constituents. As the Times notes, Cochran has secured funds for "health centers, historically black colleges and infrastructure," directly and indirectly boosting black communities in the state.

McDaniel, on the other hand, is opposed to federal spending as a matter of course, and would sacrifice these investments for the sake of ideological purity. Given the extent to which a Republican senator is guaranteed—Mississippi is the site of extreme racial polarization, where almost all whites vote Republican and all blacks vote Democratic—Cochran might stand as the best available choice for black voters in the state.

[AuH20]

How low is the GOP establishment willing to go? This low.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpp6cYZrrcs#t=31

[ChristianAnarchist]

If you haven't been keeping up with this election, Ron Paul actually visited Hattiesburg (http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/06/14/ron-paul-endorses-mcdaniel/10539997/) to endorse Chris McDaniel in person. Meanwhile, John McCain (http://gifs.gifbin.com/072009/1246883354_evil_john_mccain.gif) is out stumping for Thad Cochran. Looks like the making of another proxy battle between the Liberty Movement and the Republican establishment.

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/c335506c6254a95dae0eba45359d9563096efc9a/c=0-82-1935-1533&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/Hattiesburg/2014/06/14/mississippisenaterace06.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqIB8UrCEAILmE8.jpg:medium

Here's the video I took of Ron Paul and McDaniels together...

http://youtu.be/OfyoqYOZehs

http://youtu.be/OfyoqYOZehs

[tsai3904]

For those that voted, how did they check which primary you voted in on June 3? I've read that some polling locations didn't have lists of who voted in which primary and just took the word of voters.

[tsai3904]

The New York Times has compiled a lot of anecdotes about Democrats voting and organizing GOTV efforts for Cochran:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/24/updates-from-the-mississippi-senate-runoff/


Mr. Davis, 44, a life-long Democrat, cast his first ballot in a Republican primary here at the Court Street United Methodist Church. The tutor and record store manager said it may well be his last. But he said he saw it as his “duty.”

“If anyone wants to tell me I’m stealing the election or something ludicrous like that, it doesn’t work that way,” he said. “It’s the future of the state.”

Mr. Davis said he has talked other friends into casting their first Republican ballots, but “it’s really anybody’s guess” who will win.


James Bennett planned to vote for Thad Cochran after black canvassers came to his door on Mr. Cochran’s behalf and asked for his vote. But when he arrived, he found out he was ineligible to vote because he had already voted in the Democratic primary.


Other blacks said they voted because they did not like Mr. McDaniel’s rhetoric.

“My vote for Thad Cochran is my vote against McDaniel,” said Mary H. Thornton, who retired from General Motors. “Out of all my years voting, I’ve never voted for a Republican.”


Roger Smith, 66, a Democrat dancing with a Thad Cochran sign with the spokes slid down the back of his neon yellow Thad Cochran t-shirt, said he thought Mr. Cochran would do better for black people.

“I don’t know too much about McDaniel other than what McDaniel’s saying: that he’s Tea Party, he’s against Obama, he don’t like black people. You’re going to get one of the white guys in there, you got to make a choice,” Mr. Smith said.

The workers said they are paid $12 an hour to work for Floyd Smith. Since the runoff, these dozen workers have knocked on doors and passed out literature in Georgetown.

This is from the same New York Times reporter:

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[Miss Annie]

UGH: CNN interviews Democrats who voted for Thad Cochran today in Mississippi Senate Race

http://therightscoop.com/ugh-cnn-interviews-democrats-who-voted-for-thad-cochran-today-in-mississippi-senate-race/

Video at link......

[AuH20]

Black democrat voters have to be most gullible folks in the country. They are really voting for Cochran? Do they even know what Cochran stands for? I suppose they don't even care. It's all about voting against the Tea Party Racist who wants to send them back to fields.

[tsai3904]

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[AuH20]

McDaniel is against the federal funding of edumacation. He's a baaaad man.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/06/24/Barbour-Admits-Dem-Support-for-Cochran-Bashes-McDaniel

[ChristianAnarchist]

UGH: CNN interviews Democrats who voted for Thad Cochran today in Mississippi Senate Race

http://therightscoop.com/ugh-cnn-interviews-democrats-who-voted-for-thad-cochran-today-in-mississippi-senate-race/

Video at link......

If Cockran wins, I personally hope he loses the general to the democrat. He was courting the democrat voters, so a democrat deserves to win (if McDaniel loses)...

[AuH20]

If Cockran wins, I personally hope he loses the general to the democrat. He was courting the democrat voters, so a democrat deserves to win (if McDaniel loses)...

I would be ecstatic if McDaniel wins tonight and then McConnell loses later in the fall.

[Vanguard101]

I would be ecstatic if McDaniel wins tonight and then McConnell loses later in the fall.

LOL I wonder how Rand would feel LOL

[Brett85]

Where do you go to see the election results?

[William Tell]

LIVE STREAMING of the Election Party:
https://mcdaniel2014.com/live-stream-of-election-party-by-tea-party-patriots-and-breitbart/

[torchbearer]

Where do you go to see the election results?
http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/senate/mississippi/runoff/june-24/

[William Tell]

Where do you go to see the election results?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2014/by_state/MS_Page_0624.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/senate/mississippi/runoff/june-24/?hp=lh_b4#.U6oUerET61s

[Brett85]

Thanks.

[Legend1104]

Where do you go to see the election results?
Here too:
http://www.clarionledger.com/longform/news/politics/2014/06/24/election-results-gop-runoff/11330947/

[William Tell]

I have a feeling it will be close, they are both currently tied at 0% each! :eek:

[NewRightLibertarian]

Even if he loses, this ugly race has damaged the Republican Party establishment even more. We shall prevail.

[Legend1104]

got our first numbers.

[William Tell]

only 2% reporting




U.S. Senate - GOP Runoff


34 of 1832 Precincts Reporting - 2%





Name
Party
Votes
Vote %



McDaniel, Chris
GOP
1,866
51%



Cochran, Thad (i)
GOP
1,770
49%

[Miss Annie]

only 2% reporting

The fact that this is even remotely close is pure idiocy!!

[klamath]

I wish they would get the interactive maps back. You could get a lot better picture with the map and strong and weak geographic area.

[TheTyke]

I wish they would get the interactive maps back. You could get a lot better picture with the map and strong and weak geographic area.

http://www.clarionledger.com/longform/news/politics/2014/06/24/election-results-gop-runoff/11330947/

[tsai3904]

I wish they would get the interactive maps back. You could get a lot better picture with the map and strong and weak geographic area.

http://hosted.ap.org/interactives/2014/primary-election-results/?state=MS&date=2014-06-24

[Shane Harris]

doesn't look good

[klamath]

http://www.clarionledger.com/longform/news/politics/2014/06/24/election-results-gop-runoff/11330947/ My bad. I overwent the band width and my internet provider throttled me back and the map didn't load.

Not looking to good right now the incumbent's lead is increasing.

[QWDC]

Compare to the previous results:
http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/senate/mississippi/

[tsai3904]

Hinds County, most populous, is going 88% for Cochran with 22% reporting. Cochran got only 66% in primary.

[RP Supporter]

It seems pretty clear to me that McDaniel will win the Republicans in the primary.

Unfortunately for him, its not just Republicans voting. :(

[Brett85]

Doesn't look good so far. It looks like Cochran might steal the election by getting a ton of Democrats out to vote for him.

[ctiger2]

The people will get the statist shill they deserve.

[tsai3904]

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[TaftFan]

Cochran's crap he's pulled with black voters is why we need voter ID. Those that aren't being literally paid are just voting because their preachers told them to.

[RP Supporter]

One bright spot for McDaniel is that absolutely nothing is in from his home county, which is a pretty big one that he won by 80+ last time. Hopefully it will be enough to turn the tide.

[Matt Collins]

The people will get the statist shill they deserve.
Except I don't deserve a statist shill.

[NewRightLibertarian]

Cochran's crap he's pulled with black voters is why we need voter ID. Those that aren't being literally paid are just voting because their preachers told them to.

It seems like Cochran pretty much ran Obama's playbook against his own constituents.

[Miss Annie]

It's tightening up a little bit, Thank God!!

[ctiger2]

Except I don't deserve a statist shill.

You're an individual. The collective does.

[Mr.NoSmile]

Are the odds at least in McDaniel's favor, given how it appears Cochran has gone out of his way to court outside of his party?

[Brett85]

The race is getting closer and Jones county hasn't even reported yet. That seems good for McDaniel.

[RP Supporter]

Starting to feel better about this. I was certain McDaniel was going to lose when the first results came in. But he's only down 2 points now and nothing from his home country reported, where he won by nearly 10000 votes last time. He's only down a little over 5000 now, so hopefully that's enough for him.

[BamaAla]

Are the odds at least in McDaniel's favor, given how it appears Cochran has gone out of his way to court outside of his party?

Word on the street is that a lot of black pastors have a lot of "walking around money" today.

[Vanguard101]

Wow he's down by 5% noooooooo :(

[mosquitobite]

So let me see if I understand this correctly.

From the perspective of the establishment -
in Virginia, Democrats helped get Brat elected = BAD!
in Mississippi, Democrats helping Cochran get re-elected = GOOD!

:rolleyes:

People are so $@^&^{! stupid!

[NewRightLibertarian]

So let me see if I understand this correctly.

From the perspective of the establishment -
in Virginia, Democrats helped get Brat elected = BAD!
in Mississippi, Democrats helping Cochran get re-elected = GOOD!

:rolleyes:

People are so $@^&^{! stupid!

Dems didn't help get Brat elected though. That was just their spin. These fuckers will say anything to keep their power.

[mosquitobite]

Hinds County is what has killed the race.

http://i58.tinypic.com/55kl5v.jpg

[Mr.NoSmile]

So anyone remember how long into the last race Cochran remained ahead before the race became tighter and McDaniel had a slight edge?

[mosquitobite]

Lincoln, Harrison and Madison counties too. Everything else is close or in McDaniels favor.

http://i57.tinypic.com/otiuk3.jpg

[CPUd]

So anyone remember how long into the last race Cochran remained ahead before the race became tighter and McDaniel had a slight edge?

About right now...

[RP Supporter]

So anyone remember how long into the last race Cochran remained ahead before the race became tighter and McDaniel had a slight edge?

I'm pretty sure he was losing until his home county came in then as well.

[William Tell]

Woah Jenny!

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/senate/mississippi/runoff/june-24/?hp=lh_b4#.U6oqRbET61t




T. Cochran (i)
50.9%
113,636


C. McDaniel
49.1%
109,452

[Brett85]

Not looking good at all. Jones county is mostly in now, and McDaniel is still behind.

[HOLLYWOOD]

So let me see if I understand this correctly.

From the perspective of the establishment -
in Virginia, Democrats helped get Brat elected = BAD!
in Mississippi, Democrats helping Cochran get re-elected = GOOD!

:rolleyes:

People are so $@^&^{! stupid!COuld get more bazaar... Mitt Romney and Eric Cantor have endorsed Bob Beauprez in Colorado. All in All... the media, esp. TV has brainwashed society into thinking the Tea Party is Poison to America. Where'sSheldon Adelson's Millions to back and fund McDaniel against Thad Cochran? Adelson pumped $100+ Million into the 2012 election year alone, funds the Tea Party News Network which he even hosts TPNN studio/set in his Sands Casio Hotel in Las Vegas. YEAH, RIGHT :rolleyes:

People need to wake up and realize political choice in American is one big Grand Illusion

[Bastiat's The Law]

Hinds County is what has killed the race.

http://i58.tinypic.com/55kl5v.jpg

That was expected though. That's Cochran's strongest county. He won it by 5,300 votes in the early primary. Looks like he's spread the margin by 6000+ this go around.

[tsai3904]

So anyone remember how long into the last race Cochran remained ahead before the race became tighter and McDaniel had a slight edge?

Right now with 73% reporting, Cochran is up 50.9%-49.1%.

On June 3, with 74% reporting, Cochran was up 50%-48%.

[mosquitobite]

McDaniel's county: Jones has started reporting, but Cochran still has a 5k lead. :(

I have a funny feeling Cochran will lose this fall. Many Republicans will have a bitter taste in their mouth that he won based on getting Democrats to vote for him.

They may win the battle, but will lose the war.

Of course, TPTB could care less... will still be a left leaning statist in the Senate...

[CPUd]

McDaniel's county: Jones has started reporting, but Cochran still has a 5k lead. :(

I have a funny feeling Cochran will lose this fall. Many Republicans will have a bitter taste in their mouth that he won based on getting Democrats to vote for him.

They may win the battle, but will lose the war.

Of course, TPTB could care less... will still be a left leaning statist in the Senate...


He'll be up another 2000 when Jones County is at 100%

[Bastiat's The Law]

Right now with 73% reporting, Cochran is up 50.9%-49.1%.

On June 3, with 74% reporting, Cochran was up 50%-48%.

What site are you on for 73% reporting?

[tsai3904]

What site are you on for 73% reporting?

AP:
http://hosted.ap.org/interactives/2014/primary-election-results/?state=MS&date=2014-06-24

[CPUd]

McDaniel is doing better this time around the Gulf.

The smaller counties that haven't reported yet were about even the last time.

If he picks up another 2000 from Jones County, we might not know who won until tomorrow. Or maybe even after a recount.

[Vanguard101]

Perry, Jefferson, Holmes, Grenada, Montgomery, and Pontotoc are left

[Mr.NoSmile]

Perry, Jefferson, Holmes, Grenada, Montgomery, and Pontotoc are left

It actually looks as if Cochran will squeak out a win this time around...

[BamaAla]

Yep, looks like that worm is going to steal this one.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Perry, Jefferson, Holmes, Grenada, Montgomery, and Pontotoc are left

Who won those counties last time?

[tsai3904]

Cook Political Report Editor (he called Brat's victory very early on):

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[CPUd]

Look at all those southern counties turning blue...

[CPUd]

Who won those counties last time?

All together, they were about 50/50

[tsai3904]

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[MikeStanart]

Hinds County: 2012 Census data shows the population being 69.8% black Vs 37.4% for the entire state. Looks like Cochran stole this election with the black / democrat vote.

[William Tell]

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Translation?

[Brett85]

How sad that Cochran stole the race by bringing thousands of Democrats to the polls. Mississippi needs to change their election laws in the future to not allow that. McDaniel would've killed Cochran if only Republicans had been allowed to vote.

[BamaAla]

Translation?

There aren't enough McDaniel votes out there to turn this around.

[William Tell]

There aren't enough McDaniel votes out there to turn this around.

Feared so.

[CPUd]

Translation?

He needs to gain 2000 more from Jones County which is likely, another 1000 from Harrison(Gulfport), and about 500-1000 from ??

[RP Supporter]

I'm seen at least three projections for Cochran, so I'm inclined to think this is over. That said, according to Politico Jones county is still 30%+and Lamar, a smaller county that McDaniel is winning 2 to 1 is still 58% out. he's only down a little over 3000 votes. McDaniel should make that up in both those counties. The question is if Cochran has any friendly areas left.

[Brett85]

Huh, it's still getting closer somehow. I'm not sure where all the new votes are coming from.

[Vanguard101]

Why are so many black people supporting Cochran?

[Miss Annie]

I just don't think the fat lady has sung yet! I am still hopeful.

[HOLLYWOOD]

http://kwout.com/cutout/9/3n/jt/94x_bor.jpg

2014 Election Results Senate: Live Map by State, Midterm Midterm Races Races - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/senate/)

[libertybrewcity]

McDaniel's might actually win this one. Wow! Cochran's lead is narrowing fast.

[William Tell]

It is not over.

[CPUd]

I'm seen at least three projections for Cochran, so I'm inclined to think this is over. That said, according to Politico Jones county is still 30%+and Lamar, a smaller county that McDaniel is winning 2 to 1 is still 58% out. he's only down a little over 3000 votes. McDaniel should make that up in both those counties. The question is if Cochran has any friendly areas left.

Cochran should pick up another 1000 at least from Hinds County. After that, I don't see anything else that would give him such a large gain.

[William Tell]

Jones County


Close
Republican

68.4% Reporting




C. McDaniel
80.5%
6,655


T. Cochran (i)
19.5%
1,616



Almost a third of Jones left, unless early voting etc complicate things.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Why are so many black people supporting Cochran?

He promised the pork.

[libertybrewcity]

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/senate/mississippi/

The June 3rd primary map shows Cochran barely winning the two remaining counties not counted and McDaniel's winning the other county by a more sizable lead.

[libertybrewcity]

http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/senate/mississippi/

The June 3rd primary map shows Cochran barely winning the two remaining counties not counted and McDaniel's winning the other county by a more sizable lead.

[tsai3904]

Why are so many black people supporting Cochran?

They're not supporting Cochran. Most Democrats interviewed said they're voting against McDaniel and the tea party.

[RP Supporter]

With 92% in, Cochran is up almost 4000 votes. I don't think there's enough left in Jones for McDaniel to come back, unfortunately.:(

[hardrightedge]

WTF black people? really...

[RP Supporter]

McDaniel's only hope is that Jones county comes out huge for him. If he could get 5000 more votes from there, he might be able to squeak out a win. Anything less and he'll be defeated.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Comparing primary to tonight... Cochran has picked up more than 6,000 votes, McDaniels has picked up 1,000

Surely, I though McDaniels would pickup T. Carey's ~5,000 votes... NOPE

http://kwout.com/cutout/f/d8/tj/bqs_bor.jpg (http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/senate/mississippi/)

[Badger Paul]

"The question is if Cochran has any friendly areas left."

His former hometown of Potontoc.

[CPUd]

Jones County had 13000 votes last time. Maybe 10000 this time.

[Brett85]

Well, McDaniel won the Republican primary. He just lost to the Democrats.

[RP Supporter]

Jones County had 13000 votes last time. Maybe 10000 this time.

If Jones decreased, that will really make me angry. Most counties increased turnout. That would be a major fail on McDaniel's part. Hopefully the heavier populated parts of the county have yet to report.

[Vanguard101]

WOWOWOWOWOWO

[Crashland]

Almost all of Jones is in now. Still down by about 1000 votes

[RP Supporter]

Jones all but in, McDaniel still down by just over a 1000 votes. Game over.

Maybe the Democrat will drop out and endorse Cochran and we can end this farce. After all, they were the ones to chose the Republican nominee.

[Dianne]

Shit, what the hell happened????

[MikeStanart]

Mcdaniel will need to challenge in court. Hinds County saw 6000+ more votes than in the primary. That. Doesn't. Happen. He went after democrats. Disgusting behavior, and technically illegal.

[libertybrewcity]

If the margin of victory is less than .5%, some states have an automatic recount, which could go any which way.

[Crashland]

McDaniel would not have lost the primary if Carey hadn't picked up that 1.5% the first time around. :-P

[Dianne]

[QUOTE=hardrightedge;5574371]WTF black people? really...[/QUOTE

Probably Obama's "boat people" from Mexico brought in just to vote.

[RP Supporter]

McDaniel's absolute last chance is DeSoto County. He leads by 6000+ votes with 87% in. If that comes in strongly, it might be enough. At this point I doubt it, but keep hope alive.

[Vanguard101]

Blacks really need some1 to help move them to the liberty movement. I'm so angry

[Dianne]

This seems like some type of bs election ... I'm searching all major news networks and not a word about the results. And I know John Sydney McCain's limp, viagra, d'k didn't do chit for the status quo.

[Brett85]

Mcdaniel will need to challenge in court. Hinds County saw 6000+ more votes than in the primary. That. Doesn't. Happen. He went after democrats. Disgusting behavior, and technically illegal.

It probably wasn't illegal, unfortunately. Mississippi just has messed up election laws.

[Crashland]

Blacks really need some1 to help move them to the liberty movement. I'm so angry

I know a good person to do that.

[Mr.NoSmile]

Well, good to know that Mississippi voters show out in larger droves only when there's a second election held.

[Brett85]

Well, we live to fight another day.

[COpatriot]

Blacks really need some1 to help move them to the liberty movement. I'm so angry

Liberty is a tough sell to a voting block that's been so destructive to it.

[William Tell]

I am SICK of losing! Time to get a real game plan going, find the people in our areas who are willing to get active. The absolute greatest evil in liberty politics is reinventing the wheel. We need an organized grassroots EVERYWHERE waiting to hit the pavement as soon as candidates announce.

[Vanguard101]

I know a good person to do that.
?????????????????? Don't leave me hanging here. Who?

[HOLLYWOOD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FLrK9NmfM4#t=58

[ctiger2]

Amazing! I hope McDaniel can pull it out.

[Mr.NoSmile]

I am SICK of losing! Time to get a real game plan going, find the people in our areas who are willing to get active. The absolute greatest evil in liberty politics is reinventing the wheel. We need an organized grassroots EVERYWHERE waiting to hit the pavement as soon as candidates announce.

That's easier said than done if you don't already have your folks entrenched in the party rather than people seen as outsiders looking in and saying 'This doesn't work. I want to rebuild this.' People have to play the game if they want to get ahead- not just sit on the sidelines and wait until a candidate who shares their views decides to run for office.

[mosquitobite]

I'm going to call it for Cochran.

I'm also going to call it now that there will be MANY claims of voter fraud - and possibly even criminal charges for some activity.

I am a betting woman that Cochran will lose this fall because Republicans will not get out and vote for a man who had to beg for Democrat votes to win. His base is done.

[hardrightedge]

It's over...these elections are worthless...all for show...

Cochran knew...he wasn't worried at all...it's all rigged...

[tsai3904]

If the margin of victory is less than .5%, some states have an automatic recount, which could go any which way.

Mississippi doesn't have any laws on recount.

[Crashland]

?????????????????? Don't leave me hanging here. Who?


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454542-Rand-Paul-s-recent-comments-are-resonating-with-blacks-young-voters
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454570-Crossfire%92s-Van-Jones-Is-%91Loving%92-This-Rand-Paul-Guy-Right-Now
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454561-MSNBC-Is-Rand-Paul-a-new-voting-rights-advocate
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454610-Rand-Paul-to-address-Urban-League-in-Cincinnati-at-the-end-of-July

[HOLLYWOOD]

I am SICK of losing! ...

We Shall overcome!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbK2NFq8QXc

[RP Supporter]

I'm normally not an advocate for this, but McDaniel should run as a write in and hope to do enough damage to Cochran that the Democrat gets elected. At this point, Cochran owes his political career to the Democrats, and he knows it. I expect he will govern accordingly if reelected.

[mosquitobite]

That's easier said than done if you don't already have your folks entrenched in the party rather than people seen as outsiders looking in and saying 'This doesn't work. I want to rebuild this.' People have to play the game if they want to get ahead- not just sit on the sidelines and wait until a candidate who shares their views decides to run for office.

Which is why I've said it dozens of times.... if our people are not walking in parades with Republicans, working booths in the festivals, volunteering for the GOP phone banks at their HQ, etc... they're spinning their wheels and we will get no where.

I have never campaigned for someone I cannot philosophically support. I have never minced where I stand politically. Yet, I do not argue with people (most of the time). I do not try to win people over to my argument until I have built a relationship with them first.

The party leadership in my area doesn't particularly care for me, but know what? The rest of the feet on the street Republicans DO - and that's all that matters. They know me, like me, and the ones that don't TOLERATE me ;)

If people want to win, more of us need to be like Rand.

Find a candidate you like locally and GIVE THEM ALL YOU GOT. Build yourself some credibility so in 2016, we're not just a bunch of demanding OUTSIDERS.

[Vanguard101]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454542-Rand-Paul-s-recent-comments-are-resonating-with-blacks-young-voters
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454570-Crossfire%92s-Van-Jones-Is-%91Loving%92-This-Rand-Paul-Guy-Right-Now
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454561-MSNBC-Is-Rand-Paul-a-new-voting-rights-advocate
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454610-Rand-Paul-to-address-Urban-League-in-Cincinnati-at-the-end-of-July
The person has to be black.

[Brett85]

How many signatures does it take in Mississippi to recall a Senator?

[samforpaul]

RP Supporter, I'm of the same mindset. Normally I think it would be wrong to run as a write-in/independent after losing a Primary, but if Dems made the difference I'd like to see Chris be on the November ballot.

[hardrightedge]

The person has to be black.

that won't work either...he'll just be called an uncle tom...

[William Tell]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454542-Rand-Paul-s-recent-comments-are-resonating-with-blacks-young-voters
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454570-Crossfire%92s-Van-Jones-Is-%91Loving%92-This-Rand-Paul-Guy-Right-Now
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454561-MSNBC-Is-Rand-Paul-a-new-voting-rights-advocate
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454610-Rand-Paul-to-address-Urban-League-in-Cincinnati-at-the-end-of-July

Yeah, sure, that does have some truth. But we DO need a true Conservative Black leader. We've had some very wise ones, but they have been so ignored and marginalized. I am a big fan of Emanuel McLittle, but no one has even heard of him. We need to face the facts that America does not have one culture, we have many. People want to be led by their own people, call it whatever you will. America is not by and large a individualist society.

[William Tell]

The person has to be black.

Correct.

[Vanguard101]

First Greg now Chris. I didn't even like Chris at first. I'm done man I give up


that won't work either...he'll just be called an uncle tom...
A black conservative/libertarian from this generation probably wouldn't. Most of the people I go around and talk to would never say that about me. It's the older generations

[Brett85]

I'm certainly not a fan of Karl Rove, but his analysis of the Mississippi race on Fox News just a few minutes ago was correct. He said that Thad Cochran can thank Mississippi's open primary law for his victory. He would've had no chance if only Republicans had been allowed to vote in this race.

[William Tell]

First Greg now Chris. I didn't even like Chris at first. I'm done man I give up

Don't, all politics is local. We shoot too high.

[Matt Collins]

I'm normally not an advocate for this, but McDaniel should run as a write in and hope to do enough damage to Cochran that the Democrat gets elected. At this point, Cochran owes his political career to the Democrats, and he knows it. I expect he will govern accordingly if reelected.
No, because that would make McDaniel toxic in the future; and there is probably a law against that.

Besides, McDaniel can probably win that seat next time around in 4 years.

[Bastiat's The Law]

First Greg now Chris. I didn't even like Chris at first. I'm done man I give up


A black conservative/libertarian from this generation probably wouldn't. Most of the people I go around and talk to would never say that about me. It's the older generations

If it was easy, everyone would do it.

[Matt Collins]

I am SICK of losing! Time to get a real game plan going, find the people in our areas who are willing to get active. The absolute greatest evil in liberty politics is reinventing the wheel. We need an organized grassroots EVERYWHERE waiting to hit the pavement as soon as candidates announce.


Do this:
http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/training/

And this:
http://www.facltraining.org/facl2/schools.htm

[Crashland]

The person has to be black.

Not really.

[RP Supporter]

No, because that would make McDaniel toxic in the future; and there is probably a law against that.

Besides, McDaniel can probably win that seat next time around in 4 years.

Toxic to who? The establishment? He already has no support amongst them. He can't do much to make them hate him more. And if there's an open seat in four years, he'll probably be up against someone less toxic than Cochran who the establishment will easily coalesce around anyway.

I don't know. I'd just rather pay back the GOP bigwigs who ran a smear campaign, openly appealed to Democrats in a Republican primary, and propped up a senile incumbent because they feared McDaniel would lose the seat/veer from the party line. But I confess I'm speaking emotionally.

[Vanguard101]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWJ34YANTYU

[Mr.NoSmile]

Called. And I can already guess what's coming: Cochran and his backers will tell those Republicans who didn't stand with him to stop bickering and unite behind the candidate with a proven record who can beat the Democrat in the November election. Or something like that.

[tsai3904]

481634886764093440

[William Tell]

I hope this race organized and energized the Mississippi grassroots. Our races in Texas did, that's really the only good thing that can come out of losses.

[Vanguard101]

I wish Ron would focus on state elections in Texas :(. He could really do some good. I'm just happy we have some decent people locally. Maybe if I don't give up yet, I'll be there with William soon :D

[William Tell]

I wish Ron would focus on state elections in Texas :(. He could really do some good. I'm just happy we have some decent people locally. Maybe if I don't give up yet, I'll be there with William soon :D

Be where? lol.

[supermario21]

McDaniel should have run on expanding felony voting rights, especially those convicted of non-violent crimes. That could have negated some of the black vote.

[CPUd]

481634886764093440

I see about 50,000 more votes today than on 6/3. Split about 35K/15K for Cochran.

[Matt Collins]

481634886764093440





http://analepsis.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/1990census_black.jpg

[Matt Collins]

I hope this race organized and energized the Mississippi grassroots. Our races in Texas did, that's really the only good thing that can come out of losses.I am sure it did... if McDaniel is smart he will put his lists to good use on the state level and will use that to do good things for liberty in the MS legislature

[Matt Collins]

Toxic to who? The establishment? He already has no support amongst them. He can't do much to make them hate him more. And if there's an open seat in four years, he'll probably be up against someone less toxic than Cochran who the establishment will easily coalesce around anyway.1- Winning an open seat is always easier. He has momentum. 2- The establishment will always fight him, but who he has to care about are those low information Republican voters who will be told "McDaniel isn't a Republican any more".

[William Tell]

Keep in mind, guys, in 2012 Ron Paul got only 4.40% or 12,955 votes in Mississippi.

[Vanguard101]

Be where? lol.

in TX gov

[ChristianAnarchist]

Let's hear it for crooked politics in MS... So as it stand now they are calling it for Thad with 5800 more votes than McDaniel. I took and analyzed the numbers from the election 3 weeks ago and the total number of voters in this election is +55,673. An additional 55k voters turned out for this election and Thad wins by 1%. I'd venture to say that most of the 55k additional voters are democrats voting for Thad. If we could somehow weed out the democrat voters I'd be willing to bet that McDaniel won by at least 10%.

[ChristianAnarchist]

1- Winning an open seat is always easier. He has momentum. 2- The establishment will always fight him, but who he has to care about are those low information Republican voters who will be told "McDaniel isn't a Republican any more".

First, I believe the senate seat is for 6 years and second, Thad will not be there in 6 (or even 2) years having retired and given his seat to another establishment whore. That whore will now be established with all the perks that come from being an incumbent. No open seat...

[William Tell]

in TX gov
Ah, yeah I'm not quite there yet either. Philip and T.J did locate some great activists. My area is looking up, we are better organized than ever before as far as activists go. Always a bright side! :D

[mosquitobite]

First, I believe the senate seat is for 6 years and second, Thad will not be there in 6 (or even 2) years having retired and given his seat to another establishment whore. That whore will now be established with all the perks that come from being an incumbent. No open seat...

Need to make sure the Democrat wins then?

[Mr.NoSmile]

It's like a pendulum, this Republican Party. Pundits and the like said the Tea Party was alive and kicking after Cantor's sudden defeat, and now they'll say the Establishment struck back.

[mosquitobite]

It's like a pendulum, this Republican Party. Pundits and the like said the Tea Party was alive and kicking after Cantor's sudden defeat, and now they'll say the Establishment struck back.

I think that will work in our favor if we paint it right.

The Establishment fought back and won Democrat votes with an establishment democrat-lite candidate.

[RP Supporter]

McDaniel is attacking the GOP establishment for allowing Democrats to decide the primary and not conceding! Good for him. Its to late for him to run as a third party outside of a write-in, but could he get the reform party nominee to quit and take his place on their ticket? Probably a pipe dream, but eh.

[CPUd]

It's like a pendulum, this Republican Party. Pundits and the like said the Tea Party was alive and kicking after Cantor's sudden defeat, and now they'll say the Establishment struck back.

That's not what they're saying now. Mostly it is about how a 42-year incumbent almost lost, and how the Democrat voters saved him. They are looking like:

http://i.imgur.com/N1AUtrR.png

http://i.imgur.com/gjqRkIX.png

[ChristianAnarchist]

I'm planing my speech for my last day in the republican club here. I will bring up this crooked election and how they want us to "unite" behind the candidate who "won". I will tell them something along the lines that if they needed democrat votes to get Thad to win this election then maybe in November a REAL democrat needs to win the general. I for one will be done with the GOP and watch from the sidelines as they wither and die as a party. There are no young excited party members. Just old tired cronies who have one foot in the grave and in 10 years most of them will have the other foot there as well.

[Ecolibertarian]

I'm certainly not a fan of Karl Rove, but his analysis of the Mississippi race on Fox News just a few minutes ago was correct. He said that Thad Cochran can thank Mississippi's open primary law for his victory. He would've had no chance if only Republicans had been allowed to vote in this race.


I agree with TC 100%.

What we need to do now is to prevent this from happening again. I think we're all in agreement that we have not lost a "battle for the soul of the GOP," but have in fact won that battle so convincingly that the establishment candidate survived only by betraying the party to the Democrats.


So. Grassroots agitation for closed primaries? What do you guys think?

[Vanguard101]

I agree with TC 100%.

What we need to do now is to prevent this from happening again. I think we're all in agreement that we have not lost a "battle for the soul of the GOP," but have in fact won that battle so convincingly that the establishment candidate survived only by betraying the party to the Democrats.


So. Grassroots agitation for closed primaries? What do you guys think?

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.

[Ecolibertarian]

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.

I agree. I should have explained myself more clearly, but what I was trying to say was that we ought to agitate for​ the closure of primaries to spoilers. That way, establishment pork-barrelers can't use dems in order to slant primaries against liberty candidates.

[William Tell]

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.
Republican party is private, not a Government in theory so it is in keeping with liberty principles.

[Ecolibertarian]

Republican party is private, not a Government in theory so it is in keeping with liberty principles.

Bingo. If a mattress store can escort out folks who want to take a nap and not buy anything, GOP should be able to keep out those who are registered to and will vote for another party.

[Ecolibertarian]

Copied from Wikipedia:

States with an open presidential primary[edit]

Alabama
Arizona (Semi-closed, with primaries open only to unaffiliated or unrepresented voters)
Arkansas
Georgia
Hawaii (Open primary for state, local, and congressional races; caucus system for presidential races.)
Illinois
Massachusetts (All races' primaries open for "unenrolled"/unaffiliated voters only)
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Virginia
Wisconsin[11]

States with open primaries for other elections[edit]

A similar system known as a nonpartisan blanket primary has been used in Louisiana for state and local elections since 1976, and began to be used in Washington, after numerous court challenges, in 2008.
In California, under Proposition 14, a measure that easily passed, traditional party primaries will be replaced in 2011 with wide-open elections. Proposition 14, known as the open primary measure, will give every voter the same ballot in primary elections for most state and federal races, except the presidential contest.[12][13]

[William Tell]

Bingo. If a mattress store can escort out folks who want to take a nap and not buy anything, GOP should be able to keep out those who are registered to and will vote for another party.

Yes, but it's complicated because the Fed and State governments do subsidize primaries as I understand it.

[tsai3904]

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.

Closed primaries will hurt Rand a lot. He polls significantly higher with Independents than Republicans.

The problem today was that there was no Democratic primary for Dems to vote in so they wanted to make their voice heard in the Republican primary.

[Ecolibertarian]

Closed primaries will hurt Rand a lot. He polls significantly higher with Independents than Republicans.

The problem today was that there was no Democratic primary for Dems to vote in so they wanted to make their voice heard in the Republican primary.

Good point. Thank you, I guess the emotion of this was getting in the way of my long-term thinking.

[William Tell]

Good point. Thank you, I guess the emotion of this was getting in the way of my long-term thinking.

It's damned if we do, and damned if we don't. There is no right answer besides take action and organize.

[Vanguard101]

Republican party is private, not a Government in theory so it is in keeping with liberty principles.
Completely forgot

[William Tell]

McDaniel to challenge illegal voting by Democrats


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/24/Cochran-McDaniel-Results-Legal-Challenges

[William Tell]

Completely forgot

It's really a twisted subject though, both the theory and reality Government in relation to political parties.

[cindy25]

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.

I disagree. Rand would benefit from young Dems and Indies. far more than Jeb or Huck. it was Dems that won it for Brat.

[William Tell]

it was Dems that won it for Brat.

That was not the case as far as I can tell.

[Vanguard101]

Holy sht
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10322819_848686555148962_1810517712965088300_n.jpg

[NewRightLibertarian]

I agree with TC 100%.

What we need to do now is to prevent this from happening again. I think we're all in agreement that we have not lost a "battle for the soul of the GOP," but have in fact won that battle so convincingly that the establishment candidate survived only by betraying the party to the Democrats.

So. Grassroots agitation for closed primaries? What do you guys think?

Work on attacking the establishment candidates and painting them as racists. No doubt this Cochran asshole had some votes that were deplorable and could have been demagogued. That way the Dems won't waste their time fucking over the liberty candidate

[Matt Collins]

I hope this race organized and energized the Mississippi grassroots. Our races in Texas did, that's really the only good thing that can come out of losses.

Mississippi's revolution is just beginning:
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/mississippi-republicans-2014-election-108206.html

[Matt Collins]

No doubt this Cochran asshole had some votes that were deplorable and could have been demagogued.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/freedomindex/profile.php?id=C000567

[jkob]

absolutely disgusting

[RonPaulMall]

I think closed primaries are fine. I know it's inconsistent with our principles but I think it's safe to say that we have to be willing to give up battles in order for the war.

How is that inconsistent with our principles? Private organizations should be able to set whatever rules they want.

[Badger Paul]

"GOP should be able to keep out those who are registered to and will vote for another party.

Oh and to think I actually tried to recruit Democrats and Independent to vote for Ron Paul and argued that such voters could lead Paul to victory. If some GOP flunkie said that to you in 2008, you'd chide him for running the GOP like a treehouse fort exclusive only to yourself instead of building a broad-based party. But now in 2014 after losing a little Senate runoff in Mississippi, some of the butthurt want to act exactly the way the establishment would have reacted if Paul had won a state like New Hampshire or South Carolina with crossover voters. We welcome people with open arms when we're winning and act like border patrol guards when we lose. Such amazing consistency! We're libertarians on Tuesday and conservatives on Wednesday.

Seven years of this and some people on RPF still don't get it. Let me ask you, did McDaniels make any effort to make foreign policy an issue in the race? Hmm? (It is a Senate race you know) Did he come out forcefully say no U.S. troops or any more money spent in Iraq and a vote Cochran is a vote for war, especially since Cochran had attacked Ron Paul? Had he done so don't you think he might have prevented some black voters from turning out for Cochran (after all, who's going to vote for a war monger?) and might have won the election? Hmmm, anyone down there think of that?

Some of you people think the U.S. is going to hell because Thad Cochran got the federal funds to get a bridge built in Noxubee County (even though RP had no problem with such earmarks in his old congressional district). One piddly little bridge compared to billions spent on the Military-Industrial Complex, on the wars, and on national security state. And it's not just the tax money you save when cut this sh*t out, when you close the foreign bases and cut the golf courses for the brass. It's the power that you take away from them to f*ck with your lives. That is the essence of the Ron Paul Revolution!

The reality is Cochran's victory in the long term doesn't really mean much because he's the past and candiates like McDaniels are the future. But it's not going to be much of a future unless McDaniels and his ilk understand the point I just made. I didn't join the "Revolution" to be Ayn Rand acolyte. I joined it because Ron Paul, to quote Ted Kennedy, "saw war and tried to stop it". There's something decent and noble and emotionally uplifting about being a part of something like that and attracted people WHO WEREN'T ALL F'ING REPUBLICANS! to his standard because to build a movement that would secure our freedoms and liberties and save money and reduce the size of government and make us a decent country again all in one. And when McDaniels and some of around here figure that out, maybe they'll start winning a few elections for once.

Here you all are objecting to Cochran reaching out for the black vote and yet who do we all know is trying to do the same thing? Seems to me either way Rand Paul was going to come out ahead tonight and that's pretty smart politics.

[CPUd]

6 years ago, someone like McDaniel would not have even been allowed in the building. This month he forced some of the biggest PACs in the country to put it all in MS. Today it was a Pyrrhic Victory for Cochran.

[AuH20]

At least we're one step closer to leaving the GOP. Paleos, libertarians and TPers need to get the hell out.

[AuH20]

Thad Cochran will screw blacks over with amnesty as well as other things. That's why you just have to sit back and laugh at the end of the night. You can't take it personal.

[NewRightLibertarian]

At least we're one step closer to leaving the GOP. Paleos, libertarians and TPers need to get the hell out.

They should do the opposite. Pile on, use this to galvanize people and bury the establishment for good

[asurfaholic]

Thad Cochran will screw blacks over with amnesty as well as other things. That's why you just have to sit back and laugh at the end of the night. You can't take it personal.

So close to victory. The establishment is in multiple cases publicly making statements to the effect of it is worried about the rise of Rand Paul types, and your response is to give up and leave?

really? Leave and do what?

[CPUd]

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[libertyjam]

The person has to be black.

Get TMOT over there

[mosquitobite]

http://i.imgur.com/MmAWeef.png

I don't remember those being the headlines for Murkowski. Anyone?

[mosquitobite]

This is what I thought was going to happen today.

From my FB newsfeed:


I am truly troubled this morning, I have always considered myself a conservative republican. But because of last night results in the Mississippi Senate race that Thad Cochran won because he pleaded with the democrat party to cross line and vote for him. This means that the establishment republicans and the democrats have decided to work together to keep the people from changing Washington!!! As of today I am not sure if I can support the Republican party again.

If we're smart, we can totally use this to destroy their false paradigm of right=Republican vs left=Democrat.

[William Tell]

At least we're one step closer to leaving the GOP. Paleos, libertarians and TPers need to get the hell out.
Naw, I vote in the GOP primaries, when my guys lose I vote third party in the general. I would love it if third party Constitutionalists started winning elections, I vote for them.

[klamath]

If you don't have enough voters to win either as a democrat or a republican you sure as hell won't win starting another party of purists. The .5% clubs.

[AuH20]

I don't think people realize how difficult it is to mount resistance in a two front war against two enemies with near limitless resources. These unscrupulous cretins blanket the airwaves and mailboxes with falsehoods that the TP is racist. This has to be confronted at some point with a pamphlet or something.

[HOLLYWOOD]

I don't think people realize how difficult it is to mount resistance in a two front war against two enemies with near limitless resources. These unscrupulous cretins blanket the airwaves and mailboxes with falsehoods that the TP is racist. This has to be confronted at some point with a pamphlet or something.

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[Matt Collins]

I don't think people realize how difficult it is to mount resistance in a two front war against two enemies with near limitless resources. These unscrupulous cretins blanket the airwaves and mailboxes with falsehoods that the TP is racist. This has to be confronted at some point with a pamphlet or something.Rand is trying to bridge that gap

[YesI'mALiberal]

Let me ask you, did McDaniels make any effort to make foreign policy an issue in the race? Hmm? (It is a Senate race you know) Did he come out forcefully say no U.S. troops or any more money spent in Iraq and a vote Cochran is a vote for war, especially since Cochran had attacked Ron Paul? Had he done so don't you think he might have prevented some black voters from turning out for Cochran (after all, who's going to vote for a war monger?) and might have won the election? Hmmm, anyone down there think of that?

Win an election by appealing to the most voters?!? What a novel thought!


Here you all are objecting to Cochran reaching out for the black vote and yet who do we all know is trying to do the same thing? Seems to me either way Rand Paul was going to come out ahead tonight and that's pretty smart politics.

Prediction: if the McDaniels camp/Tea Party groups contest this election, Rand Paul will be called on to disavow them (including firing Ken Cuccinelli) or be labeled a hypocrite.

[Bastiat's The Law]

At least we're one step closer to leaving the GOP. Paleos, libertarians and TPers need to get the hell out.

There's no viable third party though. If there was one it would be interesting because libertarians would likely be at the forefront of it, but and here's the rub, we'd only be locking ourselves into a perpetual bridesmaid role because the democrats would either win everything outright, or the establishment republicans would join with the dems to block us.

Now if that enormous political realignment happened it might work to our favor long-term, but it would still take a lot of waking up and educating. Not sure if we have that much time left. It would be exciting and helluva lot less confusing to the average person though. You would definitely know which party was for big government and which advocated for liberty.

[Bastiat's The Law]

They should do the opposite. Pile on, use this to galvanize people and bury the establishment for good

You mean boot the establishment progressives from the republican party?

[ChristianAnarchist]

Write in time... if that means the demonrat candidate wins then so be it...

[klamath]

McDaniel should have Out did Cochran at his own game. McDaniel should have starting hitting every black district in MS heavily campaigning.

[ChristianAnarchist]

I think I'll have a sign made up - Thad Cochran: The strongest Democrat in the Republican party!!

[William Tell]

Compare the Primary to the Runoff on number of votes:

Primary:

Republican 100% Reporting

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Winner* C. McDaniel
49.5%
155,040


Winner* T. Cochran (i)
49.0%
153,654


T. Carey
1.5%
4,789





Runoff:


Overall Mississippi Senate Primary Runoff Results
Republican 100% Reporting

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Winner T. Cochran (i)
50.9%
191,508


C. McDaniel
49.1%
184,815

[mosquitobite]

Guess those crossovers voted for him after all:
http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/senate/mississippi/#.VFr9BjTF-So