Lerner hard drives destroyed

[thoughtomator]

Sources: Lois Lerner’s emails likely gone forever

By RACHAEL BADE | 6/18/14 9:59 PM EDT Updated: 6/18/14 11:34 PM EDT

Ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s crashed hard drive has been recycled, making it likely the lost emails of the lightening rod in the tea party targeting controversy will never be found, according to multiple sources.

“We’ve been informed that the hard drive has been thrown away,” Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, said in a brief hallway interview.

Two additional sources told POLITICO the same late Wednesday, citing IRS officials.

It may just be standard government procedure, but the revelation is significant because some lawmakers and observers thought there was a way that tech experts could revive Lerner’s emails after they were washed away in a computer crash in the summer of 2011. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), for example, subpoenaed her damaged hard drive earlier this week, when he asked for “all hard drives, external drives, thumb drives and computers” and “all electronic communication devices the IRS issued to Lois G. Lerner.”

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read more:
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/irs-lois-lerner-emails-108044.html

[francisco]

How odd.

[HOLLYWOOD]

emails are stored on the exchange servers of Lois Lerner's and anyone's mail folders who corresponded with her. Not on her personal hard Drive, unless she had her personal email storing attachments, outlook mail copies, and such on her computer.

Here's a question, The FBI has been investigating the IRS scandal since last May, that's 14 months, what's the status of the investigation? They're really good at taking peoples computer equipment on the very first visit.

[francisco]

...Here's a question, The FBI has been investigating the IRS scandal since last May, that's 14 months, what's the status of the investigation? They're really good at taking peoples computer equipment on the very first visit.

Surely you know that's only for the Mundanes.

[MRK]

hahaha.

banana republic.

[Anti Federalist]

Shocked...shocked, I am.

[acptulsa]

The spin never stops.

The source says the hard drive was 'thrown away', but the headline writer insists it was 'recycled'.

May be traitors, but we can all thank God that they're environmentally friendly traitors, right?

[AuH20]

And we're the crazy ones for saying that the government is a pack of amoral, pathological villains. This is a conspiracy in broad daylight.

[acptulsa]

And we're the crazy ones for saying that the government is a pack of amoral, pathological villains. This is a conspiracy in broad daylight.

Nonsense, sir. A perfectly good computer had its hard drive removed and forcibly destroyed because the replacement was made in America by union labor. Simple economic stimulus, sir, nothing more.

Happens every day. I'll bet ten million housewives are thro--er, I mean recycling perfectly good hard drives just to ensure that Silicon Valley doesn't decline even as we speak. Perfectly reasonable.

[ctiger2]

How fucking retarded do they think we are. Good god this is pushing outer limits of insanity. This admin really is going bonkers nutters.

[puppetmaster]

If I destroyed my HD and there were incriminating email that I had sent then not only would my email server have a copy but also the person it was sent to or received from would also have a copy on their servers. It cannot be gone period! it is a lie bold face lie.

[Spikender]

This is only news to someone who doesn't know anything about how email work.

They need to stop this BS and just throw in the towel and face the music. Hard drive crashes and recycling... recycled lies is more like it. Enough stalling.

[Working Poor]

oh really

[WM_in_MO]

emails are store on the exchange servers of lois Lerner's and anyone's mail folders who corresponded with her. Not on her personal hard Drive, unless she had her personal email storing attachments, outlook mail copies, and such on her computer.

Here's a question, The FBI has been investigating the IRS scandal since last May, that's 14 months, what's the status of the investigation? They're really good at taking peoples computer equipment on the very first visit.

Assuming an exchange environment, yes.

I'm also pretty sure most POP/IMAP providers keep a backup as well.

Honestly pursuing this any further is a waste of energy, they are the mafia and will not honestly investigate themselves.

Same with every other "Scandal" like Benghazi, this IRS scandal, etc.

Just drop it. Focus your energy elsewhere.

[jbauer]

There is no way that the emails aren't archived somewhere. On top of that all they need to do is ask the nsa

[torchbearer]

IT DOESN"T MATTER WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HARD DRIVES FOR CHRIST SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!
THERE ARE BACKUPS OF THE EXCHANGE SERVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@1111111!!!!!!!!!!
I sent the message to my congressional office but there is no response.
This is driving me nuts. Someone give me access to their IT dept.

[UtahApocalypse]

Here is my question:

If the hard drives, and the emails are gone. (which anyone with any brain knows it not possible) then who is going to federal prison? My understanding is that FEDERAL LAW requires that all documents, data, and so forth must be archived. So if anyone did destroy (evidence) why has congress not had them brought in and arrested, questioned, and gulaged.

[Spikender]

Here is my question:

If the hard drives, and the emails are gone. (which anyone with any brain knows it not possible) then who is going to federal prison? My understanding is that FEDERAL LAW requires that all documents, data, and so forth must be archived. So if anyone did destroy (evidence) why has congress not had them brought in and arrested, questioned, and gulaged.

There is no rule of law for the ruling class.

That about sums it up.

[CaptUSA]

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[roho76]

What a crock of shit. If this is the end of it then this is a concerted effort by both parties to cover this up. What donRepublicans stand to gain by letting this clumsily slipping through their fingers?

[Ronin Truth]

How odd. Not really, just standard operating procedures for government coverups. Next we'll probably learn that the NSA misplaced ("lost") their (our) copies too. Does anyone else smell the putrid smoke of the "smoking gun"?

[euphemia]

That's tampering with evidence. Someone goes to jail.

[Ronin Truth]

emails are store on the exchange servers of lois Lerner's and anyone's mail folders who corresponded with her. Not on her personal hard Drive, unless she had her personal email storing attachments, outlook mail copies, and such on her computer.

Here's a question, The FBI has been investigating the IRS scandal since last May, that's 14 months, what's the status of the investigation? They're really good at taking peoples computer equipment on the very first visit. Unless, of course, they are part of the cover up too. I'm still impatiently waiting to see the surveillance tapes that the FBI confiscated at the Pentagon on 9/11.

[Spikender]

That's tampering with evidence. Someone goes to jail.

Except these are the oligarchs in this case so not a single person will see a day behind bars.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Two Crime Families, Two Gangs, Two Standards for Law


Marxist Whore Nancy Pelosi's response to the missing emails and destroyed software and hardware. make no doubt about it, if any American citizen not connected to the Washington DC crime syndicate, would be immediately arrested and charged on multiple counts; from destroying evidence to obstruction of law...

There is No Rule of Law in America... with a Lawless government


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpX1hhkpKaM#t=76

[ZENemy]

You know what? Good... Now even my statist boss (IT director) is waking up.

[thoughtomator]

You know what? Good... Now even my statist boss (IT director) is waking up.

Even as a manager, he knows enough tech to know total bullshit when it's smeared all over his face.

This is the end of the Obama administration.

[georgiaboy]

Check the Cloud, Lois.

[specsaregood]

This is only news to someone who doesn't know anything about how email work
They need to stop this BS and just throw in the towel and face the music. Hard drive crashes and recycling... recycled lies is more like it. Enough stalling.

This isn't stalling, this is telling us all to eat our shitpie and like it.

[ravedown]

Even as a manager, he knows enough tech to know total bullshit when it's smeared all over his face.

This is the end of the Obama administration.

plenty of people are waking up...this is so overtly corrupt and obvious it seems to have broke through the partisan divide somewhat- 17,000 comments on the politico article and most very negative. lots of fed up people. between this story and the iraq situation...this administration is headed for some abysmal approval numbers never before seen.

[mello]

Can't they just subpoena the White House, FBI, Treasury Dept, & etc. for any emails that they have received from Lois Lerner in the past two years? At least they could get some of them back.

Also, I'm almost positive that this is not the first time that hard drives containing damaging info have suddenly been corrupted or lost or destroyed. If anyone can remember something similar happening, please post.

[acptulsa]

Can't they just subpoena the White House, FBI, Treasury Dept, & etc. for any emails that they have received from Lois Lerner in the past two years? At least they could get some of them back.

Hope they don't.

Buying that many new hard drives all at once could force a default on our national debt interest service payments.

[Ronin Truth]

I'm betting there's been a whole rash of hard drive failures for anyone who has emailed with Lerner over the last few years.:rolleyes: :p The scum and the slime in the D.C. cess pool just keeps on getting deeper.

[Dr.3D]

Hope they don't.

Buying that many new hard drives all at once could force a default on our national debt interest service payments.
Yeah, it could lead to a hard drive shortage like the ammo shortage we are experiencing right now.

[jkr]

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[alucard13mm]

Any bets on if Holder will demand answers?

[Ronin Truth]

Any bets on if Holder will demand answers?
Not if any black folks are involved.

[Lucille]

The IRS Had a Contract With an Email Backup Company
http://reason.com/blog/2014/06/20/the-irs-had-a-contract-with-an-email-bac


The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) said it can't provide emails sent between 2009 and 2011 that were requested by congressional investigators because of hard drive crashes.

The agency said that emails stored on dead drives were lost forever because its email backup tapes were recycled every six months, and employees were responsible for keeping their own long-term archives.

The IRS had a contract with email backup service vendor Sonasoft starting in 2005, according to FedSpending.org, which lists the contract as being for "automatic data processing services." Sonasoft's motto is "email archiving done right," and the company lists the IRS as a customer.

In 2009, Sonasoft even sent out a Tweet advertising its work for the IRS.

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The exact details of the service that Sonasoft provided to the IRS aren't clear. But the company advertises its email archiving solution as "ideal for small and medium businesses, government agencies, school districts, nonprofit organizations using Microsoft’s Exchange Server." And a document posted on its website describing its services says that its system "archives all email content and so reduces the risk of non-compliance with legal, regulatory and other obligations to preserve critical business content."

[Philhelm]

The sad part is that anyone who believes that this is a lie (in other words, anyone who isn't a bona fide, retarded retard) is technically a conspiracy theorist...

[Lucille]

Darrell Issa Fuming Upon Learning Lois Lerner's Hard Drive Was Destroyed
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-19/darrell-issa-fuming-upon-learning-lois-lerners-hard-drive-was-destroyed


Following Darrell Issa's subpoena of Lois Lerner's hard drive, the rather stunning (and ripped from the pages of a badly written inside-Washington TV mini-series) news is that the IRS reports that the hard drive in question has been destroyed (just as we hinted last night). "We've been informed that the hard drive has been thrown away," Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, said in a brief hallway interview and as Politico reports, Ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s crashed hard drive has been recycled, making it likely the lost emails of the lightening rod in the tea party targeting controversy will never be found, according to multiple sources. Issa is pissed... blasting in a statement that the 'lost emails' meme was "just one more attempted deception... e-mails of a prominent official, don’t just disappear without a trace unless that was the intention." His response... requesting the White House attorney's testimony on Lerner's emails.


“We believe the standard IRS protocol was followed in 2011 for disposing of the broken hard drive. A bad hard drive, like other broken Information Technology equipment, is sent to a recycler as part of our regular process,” an IRS spokesman said in response to a query from POLITICO.

So the standard IRS protocol is to wipe away all the evidence? Can US taxpayers then use the same protocol to "wipe away" their W2s?
[...]
Upon learning about the latest lie from the IRS he issued this statement.


“If the IRS truly got rid of evidence in a way that violated the Federal Records Act and ensured the FBI never got a crack at recovering files from an official claiming a Fifth amendment protection against self-incrimination , this is proof their whole line about ‘losing’ e-mails in the targeting scandal was just one more attempted deception. Old and useless binders of information are still stored and maintained on federal agency shelves; official records, like the e-mails of a prominent official, don’t just disappear without a trace unless that was the intention.”

And finally his latest request:


“From May 2013 until November 2013, you served in a career position at the IRS as the Counselor to the Commissioner, with the primary task of ‘navigat[ing] the scandal over [the IRS’s] reviews of conservative organizations,’” said Issa in the letter. “In this position, you had a direct and substantial role in the IRS’s response to congressional requests for documents, including documents sent or received by Ms. Lerner. In fact, IRS Chief Counsel William Wilkins, when asked who was supervising the collection of, ‘documents relating to the committee’s requests for material,’ responded ‘Tom Kane and Jennifer [O’Connor] are the two I would identify as the key supervisors.’ Given your prominent role in supervising the IRS’s document review and production processes, you likely knew or should have known that the IRS was missing a portion of e-mails sent or received by Ms. Lerner responsive to the Committee’s subpoena.”

One wonders how long before her hard drive fails? and also how long until Americans finally realize they too have had enough, and proceed to inform the IRS they have systematically "lost" all tax forms documenting income sent to them in the last several years as well?

Saw this linked in the reason comments.

Lois Lerner's Hard Drive "Crashed" Ten Days After House Ways & Means Chairman David Camp Made His First Inquiry About Targeting Conservatives
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/349965.php


The timing is not merely suspicious, it is damning (http://online.wsj.com/articles/kim-strassel-about-those-missing-emails-1403220814).


[T]he alleged disappearance of Ms. Lerner's hard drive—and the fact that the missing conversations are those the former IRS director had with people outside the IRS—has suddenly resurrected, with force, the explosive possibility that she was chatting with Democrats who mattered.

There's plenty of reason to believe she was. Just last week Congress discovered (via a subpoena to the Justice Department) emails showing that Ms. Lerner had conversations with Justice prosecutors about investigating conservative nonprofits. Who else in the Obama administration was Ms. Lerner talking to?
[...]
At the Fiscal Times, Ed Morrissey writes (http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2014/06/19/Lost-IRS-E-mails-Point-Abuse-Power-and-Cover) of another case of suspicious timing.


The closest insinuation between the IRS targeting scandal has been an unusual meeting between the IRS' chief counsel, William Wilkins, and Obama on April 23, 2012. The chief counsel for the IRS would have no discernible reason for a private meeting with the president; his job would be to brief the IRS commissioner --at the time Douglas Shulman --who met with Obama the very next day.

The day after that, Wilkins sent a revised set of guidelines to Lois Lerner for the tax-exempt unit to use when applying extra scrutiny. To this day, no explanation for this meeting has been made public, even though records show that Wilkins spent hours at the White House with "POTUS" as his host.

Nor was this the first time that Wilkins appears in the targeting narrative. Carter Hull, a retired high-ranking IRS official with 48 years’ experience at the agency, testified that after he approved a Tea Party-related tax-exempt application, it got routed to Wilkins rather than finalized.

The day after an unusual meeting of a mid-level manager and the President, the mid-level manager issues revised targeting guidelines to the IRS, and we're supposed to believe those guidelines were not the subject of discussion between the President and the manager?

[Occam's Banana]

Darrell Issa Fuming Upon Learning Lois Lerner's Hard Drive Was Destroyed

Issa fumes ... Rome burns ...

[thoughtomator]

someone +rep Lucille for me as both her previous posts deserve 'em

[Henry Rogue]

Lol, everyone know it was on purpose and everyone knows that nothing will happen to them.

[jkr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fon9b-aO6ec

[HOLLYWOOD]

FYI, if anyone is interested in an IT job at the IRS in Washington DC...

PS: Tell your Congressman to subpoena all IRS IT staff responsible for MS Exchange, storage, & backups, of the IRS email systems.

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[NorfolkPCSolutions]

someone +rep Lucille for me as both her previous posts deserve 'em

done.

The link she found is going to be my bedtime reading...seems incredible

[DamianTV]

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[Occam's Banana]

"I believe it ... I believe it! ..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trjDFPAij40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trjDFPAij40

[FriedChicken]

From my facebook:


Does anyone believe the IRS about those emails getting lost in a computer crash?

The plot line is weak but the dialog is what makes the show worth watching.

IRS: "Hard drive crash, who knew! Really sucks too. Those emails would have uncovered deep corruption or proved us innocent of it - especially since they were likely to be tied to sitting congressmen. Ole well!"

CIC (Congressional investigative committee): "You didn't back up your files?"

IRS: "Nope! Can you believe it? 250 people working the case and $10million spent - you would have thought someone would think of backing it up, wouldn't ya? Honest mistake. I better be going now ..."

CIC: "Not just yet ... aren't emails stored on servers, not hard drives?"

IRS: "ummm, look. I said they were gone. They're gone."

CIC: "shouldn't there be more than one copy of emails? Like ... the people who received or sent emails to her?"

IRS: "Unfortunate accident. Too bad we'll never get to read those emails, eh?"

CIC: "Well ... every tech in the USA has offered to recover the data from the crash. They say it shouldn't take more than 15 minutes. How about them taking a crack at it?"

IRS: "Our techs have already tried everything, so they're wrong. Besides, we already destroyed the hard drive, so there isn't anything for them to recover the data from."

CIC: "you destroyed it???!! You don't think this happened on purpose?"

IRS: "No, freak accident."

CIC: "I don't believe you."

IRS: "FINE! Don't believe me! Have fun figuring this out on your own though, because I'm not going to talk to you again."

CIC: "Umm, you can't do that. We're congress ... we created the IRS and we're suppose to oversee your activities."

IRS: Who do you think you're talking to?? We're the freakin IRS bub.
You're lucky we even pretend to be overseen by you puny elected politicians - does congress have a swat team? Do they strike fear in the hearts of all Americans? When a constituent of yours finds a letter in their mail from you they throw it away without even opening it ... they get a letter from us and their heart skips a beat. They sit down and staring at it while their palms sweat and their mind races in wonder of what it is about.
When their spouse comes home they open it together.
If they dare raise their voice to us they will come to regret it.

You're powerless to stop them if they decide to replace you. They're powerless to stop us.
We send mothers and fathers to prison, we separate families, we bust down doors, we point fully automatic rifles at 15 year old kids and when we say we're done talking .... we are DONE TALKING."

[HOLLYWOOD]

Just remember the BS of 2 sets of law standards...But Clowns like Daryll Issa and the establishment cronies are dragging the IRS felonies out, all for the timing of the elections. Usual ganGOP move to profit from the situation... never let a crisis go to waste, eh? This is more to keep the divide and party control/power, than it is to indict and charge those involved for multiple law/Constitutional violations.

Here's an example of Congressional hypocritical BS:

Aug. 19, 2010: A federal grand jury in Washington indicts MLB pitcher Roger Clemens on; one count of obstruction of Congress, three counts of making false statements to Congress, and two counts of perjury, lying under oath.

Roger Clemens found not guilty on all six counts, jury rules former Yankees pitcher did not lie to Congress about his use of performance-enhancing drugs, acquitting him on six felony charges, six days after testimony ended.

Bloomberg: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-17/missing-e-mail-is-the-least-of-the-irs-s-problems



Missing E-Mail Is the Least of the IRS's Problems
The IRS's response on this is that more storage is expensive (it would cost, it says, more than $10 million to upgrade the servers to handle unlimited mailboxes). It also complains that it’s incredibly time-consuming to manually search everyone’s hard drive. But it should have been able to get the job done in 10 minutes -- by archiving Lerner’s e-mail account and sending it to the investigators. The only reason it has to waste thousands of man-hours manually searching the hard drives of other employees is that it first decided to waste thousands of man-hours manually deleting e-mails or storing them on local hard drives where they wouldn’t be backed up. This to save $10 million at an agency with an annual IT budget of $1.8 billion (http://www.irs.gov/PUP/newsroom/FY%202014%20Budget%20in%20Brief.pdf).

[HOLLYWOOD]

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Sonasoft Customer: Internal Revenue Services (IRS)
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Last But Definitely Not Least...

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For Immediate Press Release: April 1, 2009

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nAppliance Networks Partners with Sonasoft to Deliver Exchange Archiving Appliance


nAppliance and Sonasoft address a key market need for email archiving appliance
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Comprehensive Email Archiving

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[HOLLYWOOD]

What you need to know about the IRS, their contracted products, their exchange/email system, archival, retrival, backups,


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One archive server can be used to archive emails from users in multiple domains (from a child or completely different domain). Users from different domains can be authenticated and provided login access to the SonaVault web console. This unique capability is extremely useful in situations where companies are acquired or spun off and operates as a separate domain where emails are stored on different Microsoft Exchange Servers. No other email archiving software solution has this feature.

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SonaVault email archiving software is designed from the ground up for easy installation, for organizations of all sizes which utilize physical and/or virtual servers. In fact, the average installation time is less than three hours with servers running the most current Microsoft software. Moreover, since there are no client-side plugins, email archiving will begin immediately. There is no delay. The change will not be noticed by end-users who will continue to operate without interruption as the automatic archiving occurs. The end-users also will be able to access their archived email seamlessly.
The average install time for SonaVault email archiving software can be quantified in three steps:


Installing SonaVault archive and archiving new emails: Less than 2 hours
Setting up organizational policies for archiving of existing emails and
offline PST files: 30 minutes
Setting up the email archiving stubbing policy: 30 minutes


8. eDiscovery Needs Enterprise Feature
In a court of law, there is little differentiation between paper-based documentation and email being used as admissible documentation. Electronic discovery (eDiscovery) refers to the process in which electronic data in required with the intent of using it as evidence. SonaVault delivers a practical solution to retrieve tamper-free emails on-demand using simple and advanced search mechanisms. In addition, searches can be customized using a state-of-the art Query Builder which further aids in the process of locating specific emails. Powerful search features in our email archiving software include ‘keywords’, ‘Boolean’, ‘regular expressions’, and ‘phrase searches’. All eDiscovery is accomplished through sampling, content identification, and review management, as well as support of the write once read many (WORM) drive.

9. Regulatory Email Compliance Requirements
SonaVault for Email Archiving software for Exchange helps meet a wide variety of regulatory email compliance requirements such as Sarbanes Oxley (SOX), Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA), SEC requirements, Federal Information Security Act (FISMA), The Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (FRCP), Basel II, Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA), and many more worldwide governmental regulations.
The resultant effect of an integrated and flexible email archiving software solution translates into an increase in employee and company efficiency. This coupled with high-performance and a fully functional feature set, results in streamlined email management and a reduction of the burden placed on IT staff. SonaVault from Sonasoft provides the user with more control over corporate email while reducing cost, complexity, and risk.

10. Content Identification, Sampling & Review Management Enterprise Feature
SonaVault provides tools to quickly and efficiently identify relevant information for various purposes. Content can be flagged automatically or manually based on defined policy by using keywords, phrases, or search results. Organizations have the option to utilize tools that would flag email content to be reviewed by an administrator.

11. Support of WORM Drive Enterprise Feature
Our email archiving software, SonaVault, can archive multiple copies of the emails, one copy is stored in Microsoft SQL Server and the second copy is stored in a daily folder on the file system which can be easily copied to the write once read many (WORM) drive to meet government regulations like Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA), Federal Information Security Act (FISMA), Sarbanes Oxley (SOX), The Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (FRCP), Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA), Basel II, SEC requirements, and other compliance requirements.

12. Role-Based Access Enterprise Feature
Access to every screen and granular functions on SonaVault Console can be controlled through a role. This role can be assigned to an individual or group of users to limit their access to the system based on their needs, role, or function.

13. Auditing Enterprise Feature
Every single operation of the email archiving software console is fully audited to ensure the proper usage of the system. It keeps track of users to ensure unauthorized policy changes or searches on the system do not take place.

14. Reporting Enterprise Feature
Powerful and rich user-friendly reporting tools are provided to monitor the usage of the system. These reports include email statistics, email compliance, data leakage, storage email management, and much more.

The Sonasoft’s Email Archiving Software Solution
SonaVault is designed to meet operational excellence, Storage Email Management, Mailbox Email Management and regulatory email compliance needs such as Sarbanes Oxley (SOX), Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), and National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD), now known as the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA). SonaVault captures all incoming, outgoing and internal emails and stores them in archive databases as a Single Instance Store (SIS). Also, by use of stubbing� message contents, including attachments, will be saved in the archive database leaving behind a small pointer, namely stub� in the body of the email. This approach can reduce the size of the Microsoft Exchange Server by up to 80%. SonaVault seamlessly supports Microsoft Exchange Server 2000, 2003, 2007 and 2010. SonaVault provides the ability to migrate all existing PST file data into the archive repository. This will enable SMB’s to eliminate PST files proliferation across their network, resulting in improved email management.

Note: Sonasoft’s email archiving software solution for Exchange Servers was originally branded as SonaSafe. Sonasoft’s email archiving software solution is now called SonaVault.

[Ronin Truth]

Trail Of Lost IRS Emails Might Lead To White House

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/062014-705686-six-more-irs-officials-lost-emails.htm?p=full



Ya think?

[Lucille]

IRS CANCELLED Contract with Email-Storage Firm Weeks After Lerner’s Computer Crash
http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/22/irs-cancelled-contract-with-email-storage-firm-weeks-after-lerners-computer-crash/#ixzz35OaMqsBU


The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) cancelled its longtime relationship with an email-storage contractor just weeks after ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s computer crashed and shortly before other IRS officials’ computers allegedly crashed.
[...]
But Sonasoft’s six-year business relationship with the IRS came to an abrupt end at the close of fiscal year 2011, as congressional investigators began looking into the IRS conservative targeting scandal and IRS employees’ computers started crashing left and right.

Sonasoft’s fiscal year 2011 contract with the IRS ended on August 31, 2011. Eight days later, the IRS officially closed out its relationship with Sonasoft in accordance with the federal government’s contract close-out guidelines, which require agencies to fully audit their contracts and to get back any money that wasn’t used by the contractor. Curiously, the IRS de-allocated 36 cents when it closed out its contract with Sonasoft on September 8, 2011.

Lois Lerner’s computer allegedly crashed in June 2011, just ten days after House Ways and Means Committee chairman Rep. Dave Camp first wrote a letter asking if the IRS was engaging in targeting of nonprofit groups. Two months later, Sonasoft’s contract ended and the IRS gave its email-archiving contractor the boot.

[Ronin Truth]

Paul Ryan Hammers IRS Chief Koskinen On Missing Lerner Emails: ‘Nobody Believes You’

June 20, 2014

Congressman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) led the Republican chorus of bitter criticism today against Internal Revenue Service Commissioner John Koskinen, telling the IRS boss that it’s inconceivable the agency would hold itself to such a lax standard for recordkeeping while it expects American taxpayers to do better with their personal tax documents.

“I’m sitting here, listening to this testimony, I don’t believe it,” Ryan said this morning during Koskinen’s testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee.

“That’s your problem: Nobody believes you. The Internal Revenue Service comes to us a couple years ago and misleads us and tells us no targeting is occurring. Then it said it was a few rogue agents in Cincinnati. Then it said it was also on progressives. All of those things have been proven untrue.

“You are the Internal Revenue Service. You can reach into the lives of hard-working taxpayers and with a phone call, an e-mail or a letter you can turn their lives upside down. You ask taxpayers to hang onto seven years of their personal tax information in case they are ever audited, and you can’t keep six months’ worth of employee e-mails? And now that we are seeing this investigation, you don’t have the e-mails; hard drives ‘crashed.’ You learned about this months ago. You just told us, and we had to ask you on Monday.”

Koskinen struggled to interject a few remarks while Ryan held the floor, but objected that he had had a long career and had never before been told by a colleague that his information couldn’t be trusted. He also told (http://thehill.com/policy/finance/210040-camp-insinuates-irs-cover-up) the Committee “I don’t think an apology is owed” for withholding from Congress the knowledge that emails subpoenaed in the House investigation had been lost – even though he shared that same information with the Obama Administration six weeks before sharing it with Congress.

Ryan said that’s not “forthcoming” behavior (http://freebeacon.com/issues/paul-ryan-smash/) from an agency that has pledged its full cooperation with the House investigation.

“Here’s what being forthcoming is: If we are investigating criminal wrongdoing, targeting of people based on their political beliefs and the emails in question are lost because of a hard drive crash that is apparently unrecoverable, which a lot of IT professionals would question, and you don’t tell us about it until we ask you about it, that is not being forthcoming,” said Ryan.

http://personalliberty.com/paul-ryan-hammers-irs-chief-koskinen-missing-lerner-emails-nobody-believes/

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

What a crock of shit. If this is the end of it then this is a concerted effort by both parties to cover this up. What donRepublicans stand to gain by letting this clumsily slipping through their fingers?

this

[kpitcher]

this

Simple, they have a chit in the game they can call in later. It's not like the two parties are really any different.

[Occam's Banana]

Darrell Issa Fuming Upon Learning Lois Lerner's Hard Drive Was Destroyed

Issa fumes ... Rome burns ...

Paul Ryan Hammers IRS Chief Koskinen On Missing Lerner Emails: ‘Nobody Believes You’
Ryan hammers ... Rome burns some more ...


What do Republicans stand to gain by letting this clumsily slipping through their fingers?

Issa, Ryan, etc. are just exploiting the opportunity to "make hay" out of blindingly obvious bullshit. Apart from that, though, there doesn't seem to be one damn reason to think that they really give a shit. (Consider how many of these "gnashers of teeth" would be tearing their hair and wailing so loudly if this kind of thing had happened under a Republican administration ...)

This whole mess means nothing more to them than an opportunity to parade their faux "outrage" in front of the cameras and "score points" for themselves without ever actually doing anything. And why not? After all, it's not like they could actually do anything even if they wanted to. The IRS is the one with the police powers (and the guns to back them up with).

The alleged "authority" of Congressional "oversight" is a pathetically feeble joke.
Congress is a toothless, yapping dog - and the IRS knows it. So do Issa, Ryan, etc. ...

[puppetmaster]

The pussies in Congress have so many reasons not to pursue action. Audits, payoffs.....etc

[UtahApocalypse]

IRS to Issa, Ryan, etc... "You emailed a few things too.... maybe we can locate those"
Issa, Ryan "Well they lost them. Nothing we can do now. Going to have to drop this whole investigation."


Just a heads up on today's coming news......

[Root]

Doesn't the WH have separate email servers? Why can't someone see who received email from Lerner?

I know, I know...

[2young2vote]

They'll never find anything. By the time any email exchanges are "recovered" the emails that would have actually been incriminating will have been eliminated in some way, making the republicans and tea party looking like fools for chasing something that "has never existed". But we all know the truth.

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

From the comments section in the article Ronin quoted:

Imagine the DOD coming up with
the same "dog ate my homework" excuse to mitigate an attack on our
country. Ooops, sorry, they did on 9/11. Fine kettle of fish we're in,
isn't it? The incompetent and dishonest, leading the unwilling to do
the most necessary for the unaware and uncaring.

Lois Lerner's computer is analogous to a mechanical rabbit on a
greyhound racing track--it's a diversion and the GOP investigators and
media are chasing it with their tongues hanging out while the
administration is laughing their butts off while the country is going
down the rabbit hole and NOBODY is doing anything concrete or
meaningful about it.

Here's the solution which was popular and very effective in the SE
Asian War Games in the '60s and '70s:

Have the US Marshall service take Lois Lerner, John Koskinen, the
current director and the most recent past director of the IRS, along
with a couple of their staffers or administration mouthpieces like
State Dept. spokesperson Jennifer Psaki and State Dept. Deputy
spokesperson Maria Harf, tie their hands and feet securely and gag
them. Load them in a chopper and get a few hundred feet off the ground.
Remove Ms. Harf's gag and ask her where Lois Lerner's emails are. As
soon as she responds with hemming, hawing, lies and obfuscation, thank
her and push her out. Repeat with Ms. Psaki, then move on to staffers.
I'm sure it won't take more than three or four of them before Ms.
Lerner and Mr. Koskinen chew through their gags and divulge, in great
detail, everything pertaining to EVERY email that ever passed through
the IRS. The survivors should then be incarcerated for life.

[UtahApocalypse]

Yet another hearing abut to begin......

CSPAN 2

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

I hope this thread hasn't died yet, because I've just had a personal revelation and I need somewhere to share it.

I was reading the news this morning, and discovered that I missed a really cool night of Lernergate coverage (dammit.) Apparently, the IRS head said last night that the IRS just doesn't have the storage capacity to hold on to every single email they must retain in order to comply with the Federal Records Act. Something about needing 10 million dollars to increase storage capactiy...so I did some rudimentary maths.

First, one must understand how many gigabytes are in a terabyte, and how many terabytes are in a petabyte. Those are data capacities most readily digested by us normal folks. Our computer hard drives tend to be a few hundred GB, or in my case, a few TB. There are 1000 GB in a TB, and 1000 TB comprise a petabyte. Let's not try to figure out how many emails 1000 terabytes, or 1 petabyte's worth of capacity, will store. Just accept that its a fuckload more than two assloads of emails, considering that the average email is only a few kilobyes (a few thousand bytes) in size. One letter on the screen you are reading right now is about a byte! I hope that brings this into focus...

Second, bear in mind that the cost of storage is spiraling down, down, down. Even a year ago, it was really difficult to find a 1 terabyte drive for nearly $50. Eighty, ninety dollars, sure - but surely not a TWO terabyte drive for $67.95! (click this for proof (http://www.pricewatch.com/price/hard_removable_drives/sata_2tb))

Finally, using basic maths that we all understand, dig this: the IRS could have added one petabyte of storage for $33,975 RETAIL, SHIPPED, at the link above. They would probably have gotten a deal, too, as they would only have needed 500 of those 2 terabyte drives to add one petabyte of storage capacity to their servers!

Allowing for a whole bunch of network attached storage, which amounts to nothing more complicated than a few hard drives in a box with a power cord and network card, and factoring in a couple thousand dollars for a year's worth of electricity, the IRS could have expanded its capacity for a fraction of the "10 to 30 million dollars" the IRS head said he would have needed in order to keep the copies that would have kept his agency out of hot water - or in this case, he'd have been screwed either way.

[Ronin Truth]

I hope this thread hasn't died yet, because I've just had a personal revelation and I need somewhere to share it.

I was reading the news this morning, and discovered that I missed a really cool night of Lernergate coverage (dammit.) Apparently, the IRS head said last night that the IRS just doesn't have the storage capacity to hold on to every single email they must retain in order to comply with the Federal Records Act. Something about needing 10 million dollars to increase storage capactiy...so I did some rudimentary maths.

First, one must understand how many gigabytes are in a terabyte, and how many terabytes are in a petabyte. Those are data capacities most readily digested by us normal folks. Our computer hard drives tend to be a few hundred GB, or in my case, a few TB. There are 1000 GB in a TB, and 1000 TB comprise a petabyte. Let's not try to figure out how many emails 1000 terabytes, or 1 petabyte's worth of capacity, will store. Just accept that its a fuckload more than two assloads of emails, considering that the average email is only a few kilobyes (a few thousand bytes) in size. One letter on the screen you are reading right now is about a byte! I hope that brings this into focus...

Second, bear in mind that the cost of storage is spiraling down, down, down. Even a year ago, it was really difficult to find a 1 terabyte drive for nearly $50. Eighty, ninety dollars, sure - but surely not a TWO terabyte drive for $67.95! (click this for proof (http://www.pricewatch.com/price/hard_removable_drives/sata_2tb))

Finally, using basic maths that we all understand, dig this: the IRS could have added one petabyte of storage for $33,975 RETAIL, SHIPPED, at the link above. They would probably have gotten a deal, too, as they would only have needed 500 of those 2 terabyte drives to add one petabyte of storage capacity to their servers!

Allowing for a whole bunch of network attached storage, which amounts to nothing more complicated than a few hard drives in a box with a power cord and network card, and factoring in a couple thousand dollars for a year's worth of electricity, the IRS could have expanded its capacity for a fraction of the "10 to 30 million dollars" the IRS head said he would have needed in order to keep the copies that would have kept his agency out of hot water - or in this case, he'd have been screwed either way.

Don't forget the possible cloud storage options. ;)

[Carlybee]

Yet another hearing abut to begin......

CSPAN 2


I watched the whole thing ..woke up with a headache.

[Lucille]

Laws are for the little people.

Archivist: IRS didn't follow law with lost emails
http://news.yahoo.com/archivist-irs-didnt-law-lost-emails-162346827.html


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Internal Revenue Service did not follow the law when it failed to report the loss of records belonging to a senior IRS executive, the nation's top archivist told Congress Tuesday.

"Any agency is required to notify us when they realize they have a problem," David Ferriero, archivist of the U.S. during a House Oversight and Government Reform committee hearing.
[...]
Pressed by a congressman, Tuesday, Ferriero would not state that the IRS broke the law. He would only say that the agency didn't "follow" the law.

"Federal agencies are responsible for preventing the unauthorized disposition of federal records, including their unlawful or accidental destruction, deletion, alteration, or removal from federal custody," he said. "When an agency becomes aware of an incident of unauthorized destruction, they must report the incident to us."

The National Archives and Records Administration did not learn about the lost records until earlier this month, Ferriero said.

[Carlybee]

That IRS head is steely.

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

Heh heh heh, at about 23:30, Issa says what I said above. Issa may be an establishment tool, as has been stated on these forums, but I consider this a glimmer of hope that the man is at least logical.

Here's the link to this morning's testimony.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?320133-1/missing-irs-emails

[Lucille]

The obvious solution: Repeal the 16th Amendment and abolish the IRS!

[Ronin Truth]

The obvious solution: Repeal the 16th Amendment and abolish the IRS!


https://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

The obvious solution: Repeal the 16th Amendment and abolish the IRS!

Hear, hear!

[Ronin Truth]

Not Even Democrats Believe The IRS Accidentally Lost Lerner Emails

June 24, 2014

More than three-fourths of American voters in a poll released today agree that the loss of email communications crucial to the House investigation into the IRS’ discrimination against conservative groups was anything but an accident.

In the Fox News tracking poll (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2014/06/24/fox-news-polls-iraq-obama-leadership-irs-emails/), only 12 percent of voters responded that they believe the emails were lost by accident. Another 12 percent said they weren’t sure. And the remaining 76 percent said they were “lost” on purpose.

Not even voters who identified themselves as Democrats buy the idea that benign, end-user computer problems can explain how the IRS is unable to retrieve emails subpoenaed in the House investigation. Sixty-three percent of Democrats said they believe those communications were “destroyed deliberately,” while only 20 percent said it must have been an accident.

The poll also indicates overwhelming support for the House investigation, with 74 percent of voters responding “yes” when asked “Do you think Congress should continue to investigate the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of hundreds of conservative and tea party groups until someone is held accountable, or not?” That includes Democrats: 66 percent support the investigation.

So much for the effectiveness of the Obama Administration’s “witch hunt” talking point tactic to push the scandal to the margins.
http://personalliberty.com/even-democrats-believe-irs-accidentally-lost-lerner-emails/

[Carlybee]

Wouldn't the person the email was sent TO have a copy?

[Mani]

I hope this thread hasn't died yet, because I've just had a personal revelation and I need somewhere to share it.

I was reading the news this morning, and discovered that I missed a really cool night of Lernergate coverage (dammit.) Apparently, the IRS head said last night that the IRS just doesn't have the storage capacity to hold on to every single email they must retain in order to comply with the Federal Records Act. Something about needing 10 million dollars to increase storage capactiy...so I did some rudimentary maths.

First, one must understand how many gigabytes are in a terabyte, and how many terabytes are in a petabyte. Those are data capacities most readily digested by us normal folks. Our computer hard drives tend to be a few hundred GB, or in my case, a few TB. There are 1000 GB in a TB, and 1000 TB comprise a petabyte. Let's not try to figure out how many emails 1000 terabytes, or 1 petabyte's worth of capacity, will store. Just accept that its a fuckload more than two assloads of emails, considering that the average email is only a few kilobyes (a few thousand bytes) in size. One letter on the screen you are reading right now is about a byte! I hope that brings this into focus...

Second, bear in mind that the cost of storage is spiraling down, down, down. Even a year ago, it was really difficult to find a 1 terabyte drive for nearly $50. Eighty, ninety dollars, sure - but surely not a TWO terabyte drive for $67.95! (click this for proof (http://www.pricewatch.com/price/hard_removable_drives/sata_2tb))

Finally, using basic maths that we all understand, dig this: the IRS could have added one petabyte of storage for $33,975 RETAIL, SHIPPED, at the link above. They would probably have gotten a deal, too, as they would only have needed 500 of those 2 terabyte drives to add one petabyte of storage capacity to their servers!

Allowing for a whole bunch of network attached storage, which amounts to nothing more complicated than a few hard drives in a box with a power cord and network card, and factoring in a couple thousand dollars for a year's worth of electricity, the IRS could have expanded its capacity for a fraction of the "10 to 30 million dollars" the IRS head said he would have needed in order to keep the copies that would have kept his agency out of hot water - or in this case, he'd have been screwed either way.



So the IRS doesn't have the space to store emails huh.....

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/07/article-2337420-1A3017AE000005DC-343_634x395.jpg


But they have a massive fucking storage facility to store EVERY TEXT, EMAIL, PHONE CALL every made around the globe for the rest of eternity....

Oh but that's to keep us safe....

[Mani]

http://personalliberty.com/even-democrats-believe-irs-accidentally-lost-lerner-emails/


Who are the 12% to 20% dumbfucks who actually believe the govt lost emails on accident? I think it's safe to say those are the same idiots who think the goberment is keeping us safe and start gladly stripping when they see a gloved person with a badge in front of a line.

[Mani]

As an aside....I watched a bit of the daily show and he did a great job of pointing out the pure BULL SHIT that's going on...But then ended it with a some lame joke inferring that citizens are too whiney and the gov't is incompetent so sorry. It was awful. He built up the horrific actions of the IRS and then laughed it away that us Citizens bitch too much and are unreasonable. WTF!?



How cocky is the IRS now? It's almost like they are fucking with us, saying, "These aren't the harddrives your looking for." and laughing it off, shrugging their shoulders, and walking away.

[HOLLYWOOD]

1.) The IRS' last annual IT budget was $1.8 BILLION

2.) All the Hard drives started failing when the IRS Inspector General and staff, started their investigation into the IRS

3.) Timing so convenient, IRS cancels backup/archiving contract as investigations at the IRS continue

4.) We now recently learn, that Lois Lerner and the IRS targeted US Senator Chuck Grassley

last but certainly not lease...

5.) Democrats Fawn Over IRS Commissioner Kosinen, Who Contributed Over $85,000 to Their Committees, Candidates, and max to Obama/Hillary (http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/dems-fawn-over-irs-commissioner-who-contributed-over-85000-their)




I hope this thread hasn't died yet, because I've just had a personal revelation and I need somewhere to share it.

I was reading the news this morning, and discovered that I missed a really cool night of Lernergate coverage (dammit.) Apparently, the IRS head said last night that the IRS just doesn't have the storage capacity to hold on to every single email they must retain in order to comply with the Federal Records Act. Something about needing 10 million dollars to increase storage capactiy...so I did some rudimentary maths.

First, one must understand how many gigabytes are in a terabyte, and how many terabytes are in a petabyte. Those are data capacities most readily digested by us normal folks. Our computer hard drives tend to be a few hundred GB, or in my case, a few TB. There are 1000 GB in a TB, and 1000 TB comprise a petabyte. Let's not try to figure out how many emails 1000 terabytes, or 1 petabyte's worth of capacity, will store. Just accept that its a fuckload more than two assloads of emails, considering that the average email is only a few kilobyes (a few thousand bytes) in size. One letter on the screen you are reading right now is about a byte! I hope that brings this into focus...

Second, bear in mind that the cost of storage is spiraling down, down, down. Even a year ago, it was really difficult to find a 1 terabyte drive for nearly $50. Eighty, ninety dollars, sure - but surely not a TWO terabyte drive for $67.95! (click this for proof (http://www.pricewatch.com/price/hard_removable_drives/sata_2tb))

Finally, using basic maths that we all understand, dig this: the IRS could have added one petabyte of storage for $33,975 RETAIL, SHIPPED, at the link above. They would probably have gotten a deal, too, as they would only have needed 500 of those 2 terabyte drives to add one petabyte of storage capacity to their servers!

Allowing for a whole bunch of network attached storage, which amounts to nothing more complicated than a few hard drives in a box with a power cord and network card, and factoring in a couple thousand dollars for a year's worth of electricity, the IRS could have expanded its capacity for a fraction of the "10 to 30 million dollars" the IRS head said he would have needed in order to keep the copies that would have kept his agency out of hot water - or in this case, he'd have been screwed either way.

[PierzStyx]

Yet none dare call it a conspiracy.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Former NSA mathematician and whistle blower Bill Binney stated if the NSA was just collecting metadata on Americans, they would be able to fit it ALL in a 12' x 20' room. He stated they(NSA) are collecting and storing EVERYTHING. Open up the IRS emails/files that Ft Meade collected.


So the IRS doesn't have the space to store emails huh.....

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/07/article-2337420-1A3017AE000005DC-343_634x395.jpg


But they have a massive fucking storage facility to store EVERY TEXT, EMAIL, PHONE CALL every made around the globe for the rest of eternity....

Oh but that's to keep us safe....

[Ronin Truth]

Who are the 12% to 20% dumbfucks who actually believe the govt lost emails on accident? I think it's safe to say those are the same idiots who think the goberment is keeping us safe and start gladly stripping when they see a gloved person with a badge in front of a line. Yep, probably just those few remaining brainwashed "State is God and never makes mistakes nor commits any evil" folks.

[Root]

http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/lois_lerners_blackberry_may_hold_smoking_gun.html


No hard drive crash could prevent the release of the email revealing Lois Lerner’s attempt to persecute Senator Chuck Grassley (http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/emails_show_lerner_targeting_senator_grassley.html ) for receiving an invitationbecause it was sent from her Blackberry (hat tip: Ed Driscoll (http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2014/06/25/the-palace-guard-msm-drops-the-mask/?singlepage=true)). This immediately raises the question of what other emails may have been routed through her Blackberry.You may recall that just a couple of days ago, IRS commissioner John Koskinen declared that he didn’t know (http://twitchy.com/2014/06/20/dipped-in-molten-lava-where-in-the-world-is-lois-lerners-smartphone/) whether or not she had a Blackberry. That convenient obfuscation is no longer operative.
Twitchy (http://twitchy.com/2014/06/25/blackberry-smash-emails-reveal-detail-about-lois-lerner-that-irs-chief-koskinen-didnt-know/) chronicles the Twitterverse’s reaction.
Let’s see what kind of accident Lois will come up with to explain the sudden disappearance or smashing of her Blackberry.

[torchbearer]

http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/lois_lerners_blackberry_may_hold_smoking_gun.html

shared

[Lucille]

IRS Spent $4.4 Billion on IT (over the last 5 years)
IRS Commissioner: Agency lacked funds to save emails
http://freebeacon.com/issues/irs-spent-4-4-billion-on-it/


The IRS under the Obama Administration has spent over $4 billion on contracts labeled under information technology and software despite IRS Commissioner John Koskinen testifying this week that budgetary restraints prevented the agency from spending $10 million to save and store emails.

Koskinen said “declining budget resources” at the IRS caused the agency decided to reject spending the $10 million needed to ensure emails were properly secured.

A review of IRS spending by the Free Beacon shows the agency has spent a massive amount on what it labeled as IT/software and data processing contracts in the past five fiscal years. The official government’s spending website shows the IRS spent $4.4 billion during this time period.
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Koskinen also said “continuing financial constraints have meant that this fiscal year, the IRS is spending minimal amounts supporting its $1 billion IT infrastructure.” Records show the agency has already spent $642 million on IT contracts this fiscal year.

The IRS commissioner said Lois Lerner’s emails could not be retrieved due to a hard drive crash. However, records show his agency has spent tens of millions of dollars in contracts with at least two companies for information retrieval systems and a forensics program touted as securing and maintaining the integrity of data.

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