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Lucille
06-16-2014, 10:19 AM
Busy busy busy. There is so much tyranny going on you can hardly keep up, which I suppose is part of the strategy.

http://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2014/6/12/obama-sets-the-stage-for-a-range-war.html


President Obama seems to want a range war. On one side would be pro-gun anti-Democrat ranchers; on the other side would be militarized federal agents and local law enforcement. The proximate cause is the ongoing restriction of ranchers' traditional right to graze cattle on public land.

A range war almost erupted in April when agents from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) laid seige to Cliven Bundy's Nevada ranch. Helicopters hovered over 200 law enforcement agents; BLM snipers were strategically deployed. Bundy and his supporters pointed their own guns directly back and declared an intention to shoot if fired upon. The Washington Times (May 28) reported, “the Obama administration considered but rejected deploying military force.”

Obama considered using the US Military against Americans on American soil; and he did so over one man's refusal to pay grazing fees or cease to graze his cattle on public land. Of course, it was about far more. Bundy openly challenged the authority of the federal government, and he won...for the moment. Now Obama is taking the offensive in his own behind-the-scenes, manuevering fashion.

On May 21, Obama flexed his muscle under the Antiquities Act of 1906. The obscure Act gives the President the authority to restrict use of federally-owned public land in order to protect national treasures. Through an executive order, Obama created a “national monument” site that consisted of nearly a half-million acres in New Mexico. According to the protesting National Cattlemen’s Beef Association (NCBA), the area “encompasses 68 percent of public grazing lands and 9,000 head of cattle in Dona Ana County, threatening the livelihood of these family ranching operations.”
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The land grab came with a particularly chilling announcement. In a speech accompanying the order, Obama stated an intention to make “many more” national monument designations before his second term expires. Gold Butte in Nevada was explicitly mentioned as an active possibility. This is approximately 350,000 acres of public land in Nevada; it includes the land over which Cliven Bundy and his supporters almost went to war with BLM agents.

Obama's pointed reference to Gold Butte means he has not forgotten the challenge to his federal authority. Nor have other powerful Democrats. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has repeatedly referred to Bundy and his supporters as “domestic terrorists.” The label is absurd. There is no valid parallel between a domestic terrorist like Timothy McVeigh who bombs occupied buildings and a family who defends their own home under seige. But Reid's label hints at the rationale with which federal agents could open fire the next time.

jbauer
06-16-2014, 11:16 AM
I think they completely underestimate the resolve of some of these 4th and 5th generation ranchers. No one has ever told them how to live their lives. I expect they aren't going to start listening today.

puppetmaster
06-16-2014, 01:11 PM
They keep pushing.......hold

Lucille
06-17-2014, 04:43 PM
The greedy, insatiable beast is going after the Pacific ocean too.

Obama aims to create world's largest ocean preserve
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/17/obama-will-reportedly-expand-protected-areas-pacific-ocean/


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The Washington Post reported that Obama is looking at expanding the preserve, from almost 87,000 square miles to nearly 782,000 square miles. The monument, created by President George W. Bush just before he left office in 2009, includes seven islands.

The Post reports that the designation is expected to face opposition from the U.S. tuna fleet, which operates in the region. Republicans in Congress have called the proposal another attempt by the administration to test the limits of executive power.

"For years the Obama Administration has threatened to impose ocean zoning to shut down our oceans, and today the president is making good on that threat," House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Doc Hastings, R-Wash., said in a statement on Tuesday. "This is yet another example of how an imperial president is intent on taking unilateral action, behind closed doors, to impose new regulations and layers of restrictive red-tape."

Hastings said the announcement "will likely make the U.S. tuna fleet even less viable, meaning in the not-too-distant future all of America's tuna will be caught by foreign vessels."
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But the White House hasn't settled on the final boundaries for the preserve. The administration said it planned to solicit input from fishermen, scientists, politicians, experts in conservation and others before the new protections take effect.
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The plan reportedly is scheduled to go into effect later this year after a comment period.

HOLLYWOOD
06-17-2014, 04:56 PM
On the way...

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TomtheTinker
06-17-2014, 09:35 PM
Where this is going to end up is obvious. Where I stand is also obvious.

NewRightLibertarian
06-17-2014, 09:46 PM
IMO, there's no way to avoid a civil war at this point. It's just a matter of when. The point of no return has clearly been crossed

donnay
06-17-2014, 10:07 PM
IMO, there's no way to avoid a civil war at this point. It's just a matter of when. The point of no return has clearly been crossed

One part of me hopes you are really, really wrong. But the other part of me knows the people in power will not just easily relinquish this power without a fight. :(

NewRightLibertarian
06-17-2014, 10:10 PM
One part of me hopes you are really, really wrong. But the other part of me knows the people in power will not just easily relinquish this power without a fight. :(

Just build awareness and organize locally in the mean time. Start a resolution or ordinance drive is my advice to everyone.