What makes poor people in this country so special?

[Schifference]

In this country we have people that do not even have jobs, they are on welfare with newer cars, cell phones, food stocked in refrigerators and cabinets, heat and...….??? Other countries have poor people that have little or nothing. What makes this country so special? What will keep people in this country driving cars when they have no money?

The american dream is gone. Only low level unskilled job opportunities. Maybe a few good jobs but they are getting harder and harder to find. It used to be said that a college education provided security for good employment and a better future. Today there are many college graduates that are not employed or under employed.

The USA is not rich, it is in debt to the world and its own people. We are broke. Why should the poor in other countries have to walk to market, or work for pennies when poor people here have many luxuries? What makes us special?

Is this sustainable? Can it go on forever?

[Michelangelo]

What are you pitching at here?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

It's because we have freedom and God blessed America, of course.

[CPUd]

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[Warrior_of_Freedom]

We aren't broke, we're being lied to. We're being told we owe money to banks we never owed money to in the first place. The banks are evil, corrupt instutitions? Good, then why should you pay them anything? I have a positive checkbook, I owe nobody anything.

[DamianTV]

We know the Middle Class is being completely eradicated. But is it intentional? Hard to say. Those at the very top think they'd be even better if they owned everything the Middle Class has. It could also be an attempt to incentivize becoming poor. If our poorest are doing better than the Middle Class, where the Middle Class is overwhelmed with debt for College and the poor are not, there will exist an incentive to race to the bottom, not the top. This incentivization may also be an unintended consequence of wealth transfer from those who still have anything left to those who have almost everything anyway.

Pure speculation on my part.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

We know the Middle Class is being completely eradicated. But is it intentional? Hard to say. Those at the very top think they'd be even better if they owned everything the Middle Class has. It could also be an attempt to incentivize becoming poor. If our poorest are doing better than the Middle Class, where the Middle Class is overwhelmed with debt for College and the poor are not, there will exist an incentive to race to the bottom, not the top. This incentivization may also be an unintended consequence of wealth transfer from those who still have anything left to those who have almost everything anyway.

Pure speculation on my part.
Why work when you can get food, housing, and free health care? Isn't that WHY people work?

[Pericles]

What makes poor people in this country so special?

The ability to vote in enough representatives to who can easily buy their votes via largess from the public treasury.

[ravedown]

because it's all about collectives. the poor are simply another special interest group. EVERYTHING is about special interest votes. the poor-the college students in debt, immigrants, single mothers, trangender folks...we all must fit into categories so when election time rolls around and a politician is handing out promises and favors...we can all say, "hey, that's me!"

[green73]

Man I read the thread title all wrong. I thought it read "What makes people in this country so special." Shame.

[DamianTV]

Why work when you can get food, housing, and free health care? Isn't that WHY people work?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Warrior_of_Freedom again.

[euphemia]

It is a sad day when poverty is exalted, wealth is abased, and the product of hard work is confiscated by government.

[Ronin Truth]

80+ years of the welfare state.

[Anti Federalist]

We know the Middle Class is being completely eradicated. But is it intentional? Hard to say.

Serious question:

You're not sure that it is intentional?

I'm convinced beyond any shadow of doubt.

What would cause you to think that it wasn't deliberate?

[jclay2]

Serious question:

You're not sure that it is intentional?

I'm convinced beyond any shadow of doubt.

What would cause you to think that it wasn't deliberate?

That would be the "Government is so mismanaged they don't know what they are doing theory". However, this really doesn't work when you consider such blatant examples of MANDATORY release of illegal immigrants convicted of murderer.

[green73]

Serious question:

You're not sure that it is intentional?

I'm convinced beyond any shadow of doubt.

What would cause you to think that it wasn't deliberate?

Of course it's deliberate. A healthy Middle Class is the biggest threat to the Oligarchs. It's their eternal enemy.

[Nirvikalpa]

Government gives the handouts, government enables, and worse, government likes to keep people held down and subservient.

The government will continue to keep the poorest of people poor, by pushing more and more regulations. For example, an Arkansas orthodontist was threatened with losing his license when he tried to give back to the community and offered dental work for a fraction of the price, or even for free (http://blog.panampost.com/daniel-duarte/2014/06/09/private-affordable-care-for-the-poor-not-in-the-united-states-of-protectionism/), and in Oklahama a woman may face jail time for growing vegetables on her property, which she was relying on to feed herself as she was out of work (http://www.examiner.com/article/nanny-state-on-the-rise-against-home-gardens-for-natural-health).

One can search on this forum and find Food Not Bombs members, and other good samaritans, arrested and/or issued citations for feeding the homeless. There was a thread a month or two ago about a man who didn't have a vendors permit who was selling handmade bracelets in a park that I believe was arrested.

Oh, you as a retired teacher want to form an after-school program for at-risk kids? Get a permit, get re-certified, take these tests, etc etc.
Want to help your fellow man that is down on his luck? No, sorry, nothing you can do and God forbid we find out about it...

The government has made it so the poor have virtually no other option but to take their handouts - the government has bred and continues to breed this codependency. When you're poor, uneducated, homeless, and in an urban area with no hope of really breaking the cycle, it's incredibly hard to see through it... exactly what the feds want.

[DamianTV]

We know the Middle Class is being completely eradicated. But is it intentional? Hard to say prove.


Serious question:

You're not sure that it is intentional?

I'm convinced beyond any shadow of doubt.

What would cause you to think that it wasn't deliberate?

Fixed. I think...

[mikey]

They vote.

[green73]

They vote.

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[oyarde]

In this country we have people that do not even have jobs, they are on welfare with newer cars, cell phones, food stocked in refrigerators and cabinets, heat and...….??? Other countries have poor people that have little or nothing. What makes this country so special? What will keep people in this country driving cars when they have no money?

The american dream is gone. Only low level unskilled job opportunities. Maybe a few good jobs but they are getting harder and harder to find. It used to be said that a college education provided security for good employment and a better future. Today there are many college graduates that are not employed or under employed.

The USA is not rich, it is in debt to the world and its own people. We are broke. Why should the poor in other countries have to walk to market, or work for pennies when poor people here have many luxuries? What makes us special?

Is this sustainable? Can it go on forever?
Not special to me .Nor am I special.

[Ender]

Government gives the handouts, government enables, and worse, government likes to keep people held down and subservient.

The government will continue to keep the poorest of people poor, by pushing more and more regulations. For example, an Arkansas orthodontist was threatened with losing his license when he tried to give back to the community and offered dental work for a fraction of the price, or even for free (http://blog.panampost.com/daniel-duarte/2014/06/09/private-affordable-care-for-the-poor-not-in-the-united-states-of-protectionism/), and in Oklahama a woman may face jail time for growing vegetables on her property, which she was relying on to feed herself as she was out of work (http://www.examiner.com/article/nanny-state-on-the-rise-against-home-gardens-for-natural-health).

One can search on this forum and find Food Not Bombs members, and other good samaritans, arrested and/or issued citations for feeding the homeless. There was a thread a month or two ago about a man who didn't have a vendors permit who was selling handmade bracelets in a park that I believe was arrested.

Oh, you as a retired teacher want to form an after-school program for at-risk kids? Get a permit, get re-certified, take these tests, etc etc.
Want to help your fellow man that is down on his luck? No, sorry, nothing you can do and God forbid we find out about it...

The government has made it so the poor have virtually no other option but to take their handouts - the government has bred and continues to breed this codependency. When you're poor, uneducated, homeless, and in an urban area with no hope of really breaking the cycle, it's incredibly hard to see through it... exactly what the feds want.

1,000,000%.

GET the government out of private lives and business.
GET rid of fractionalized banking.
RESTORE real capitalism.

THIS is the answer.

[bunklocoempire]

What makes poor people in this country so special?

Special? I don't know about that. It's personal choice and the options made easily available.

The choice to have a good relationship with those who actually love us, or, the choice to have a relationship with those who don't actually love us, let us do whatever we want (mostly), and can get us stuff with the use of a gun.

The people offering to rob others certainly have their own idea of "love".