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green73
05-29-2014, 11:30 AM
In the summer of 2010, a young black man was stopped and questioned by police on the streets of Miami Gardens, Florida. According to the report filled out by the officer, he was "wearing gray sweatpants, a red hoodie and black gloves” giving the police "just cause” to question him. In the report, he was labeled a "suspicious person.”

He was an 11-year-old boy on his way to football practice.

A Fusion investigation has found that he was just one of 56,922 people who were stopped and questioned by Miami Gardens Police Department (MGPD) between 2008 and 2013. That’s the equivalent of more than half of the city’s population.

Not one of them was arrested.

It was all part of the city’s sweeping "stop and frisk” style policy that may be unparalleled in the nation.

According to a review of 99,980 "field contact” reports, they were stopped, written up and often identified as "suspicious” -- but just like the 11-year-old boy -- the encounter was recorded in a public database, and they were let go.

Thousands more were arrested after being stopped by the police, raising the total number of people ensnared by the policy to 65,328 during the five-year period.

"I have never seen a police department that has taken the approach that every citizen in that city is a suspect. I’ve described it as New York City stop-and-frisk on steroids.” said Miami-Dade County Public Defender Carlos Martinez.

Last year, a Miami Herald report exposed how the MGPD repeatedly stopped and arrested employees and customers of a local convenience store including, Earl Sampson, who was stopped more than 200 times.

Fusion’s analysis of more than 30,000 pages of field contact reports, shows how aggressive and far-reaching the police actions were. Some residents were stopped, questioned and written up multiple times within minutes of each other, by different officers. Children were stopped by police in playgrounds. Senior citizens were stopped and questioned near their retirement home, including a 99-year-old man deemed to be "suspicious.” Officers even wrote a report identifying a five-year-old child as a "suspicious person.”

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http://fusion.net/justice/story/miami-gardens-stop-frisk-nabs-thousands-kids-finds-667430

JK/SEA
05-29-2014, 11:46 AM
makes sense. You never know who might be hiding a pressure cooker in their back pocket.

aGameOfThrones
05-29-2014, 11:58 AM
Only 5% bad

TonySutton
05-29-2014, 12:12 PM
See it works. There was not a single terrorist attack during this time. /s

Christian Liberty
05-29-2014, 12:33 PM
Only 5% bad

There's no way to be "good" with laws like this, save quitting.

Occam's Banana
05-29-2014, 01:16 PM
You guys just don't understand. If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
The only thing we should be concerned about is whether all those brave officers made it home safely ...

Philhelm
05-29-2014, 01:58 PM
I think that a mandatory national uniform should be issued to all citizens in order to avoid such problems.

Anti Federalist
05-29-2014, 02:12 PM
I think that a mandatory national uniform should be issued to all citizens in order to avoid such problems.

That's a great idea...maybe start small, with a patch or armband or something.

http://www.mahnung-gegen-rechts.de/pages/staedte/Zittau/pics/Gelber-Stern.jpg

moostraks
05-29-2014, 03:10 PM
I think that a mandatory national uniform should be issued to all citizens in order to avoid such problems.

Then maybe we can have group discounts on dry cleaning them. Think of the jobs plan this could inspire.

osan
05-29-2014, 07:28 PM
Only 5% bad

5% bad is 6% too much.

DamianTV
05-29-2014, 08:49 PM
But theres nothing suspicious about any Cop or TSA agent giving a 5 year old a cavity search. Problem Projection from those who should wear the labels of "Suspicious" onto their unwilling targets of their abuse. Same way as Banks blame the poor people as the reason the Economy crashed and will crash again.

otherone
05-29-2014, 09:01 PM
This pretty much describes how ALL officers everywhere think about mundanes. We are ALL "suspicious"; including boobus, who ironically chose to arm these paranoid fucks.

liberty2897
05-29-2014, 10:50 PM
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MRK
05-29-2014, 11:23 PM
That's a great idea...maybe start small, with a patch or armband or something.

http://www.mahnung-gegen-rechts.de/pages/staedte/Zittau/pics/Gelber-Stern.jpg

I'm glad you decided to compromise with a moderate position instead of siding with the extreme privacy types.

heavenlyboy34
05-30-2014, 12:31 AM
I think that a mandatory national uniform should be issued to all citizens in order to avoid such problems.
How Zamyatinesque. :eek:

GunnyFreedom
05-30-2014, 12:38 AM
What happens if we start 'stopping and frisking' the cops because we don't trust them?

Anti Federalist
05-30-2014, 01:12 AM
What happens if we start 'stopping and frisking' the cops because we don't trust them?

http://www.policebrutality.info/content/uploads/2013/02/denver-cops-beat-up-motorist.jpg

http://www.policestateusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Adrian-Montesano-car.jpg

http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/cb_compound_burning_jt_130225_wblog.jpg

Mani
05-30-2014, 03:58 AM
But they did it to keep us safe. Those 5 year olds are scary. Thank you Police for just making sure he wasn't carrying a sharp pencil that could have poked an eye out.

If that kid was carrying a scissors they may have called for backup.

Child is armed and considered dangerous!!!! Don't let those puppy dog eyes fool you!!

HUT! HUT! HUT! HUT!

http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2014/03/14/08/45/1n78n2.St.56.jpeg

Occam's Banana
05-30-2014, 04:48 AM
What happens if we start 'stopping and frisking' the cops because we don't trust them?

Circular Force Continuum circles forcefully and continuously ...


http://www.policebrutality.info/content/uploads/2013/02/denver-cops-beat-up-motorist.jpg

http://www.policestateusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Adrian-Montesano-car.jpg

http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/cb_compound_burning_jt_130225_wblog.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/scaled/medium/837/6hpg.jpg

DamianTV
05-30-2014, 06:24 AM
This pretty much describes how ALL officers everywhere think about mundanes. We are ALL "suspicious"; including boobus, who ironically chose to arm these paranoid fucks.

So who is crazier? The Cops that are paranoid of everyone and think that the Public itself is Public Enemy #1, or the fucking Public morons that support these kinds of Cop Superpowers? Me? Between the two, honestly, im not sure which group frightens me more...

Snew
05-30-2014, 08:38 AM
Thanks for protecting us, officers.

Anti Federalist
05-30-2014, 10:17 AM
So who is crazier? The Cops that are paranoid of everyone and think that the Public itself is Public Enemy #1, or the fucking Public morons that support these kinds of Cop Superpowers? Me? Between the two, honestly, im not sure which group frightens me more...

The second, for me, without question, is the greatest threat.

They are the ones that will turn you in, the ones who will report you, the ones who will turn their head at the oppression and abuse.

They are the ones who will approve of this system, until it is too late.

Origanalist
05-31-2014, 06:00 AM
You guys just don't understand. If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
The only thing we should be concerned about is whether all those brave officers made it home safely ...

My own brother made that comment last time we all got together. I was dumbstruck. I said, I can't believe you actually said that and the rest of the siblings and my brother in law proceeded to start clucking like a bunch of chickens about how we can't do anything about it so just don't let it bother you, etc., etc..

I felt like puking. I just disengaged entirely, it was too much for me, even lost my appetite and threw my plate of food out. Out of that whole bunch it appears my mother is the only one that "get's it". Very depressing.