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Feeding the Abscess
05-28-2014, 01:47 PM
I'm going to post a few paragraphs, though I actually think it gets better after the stuff I'm quoting [myriad links at the original source]:


In the last few days, ever since Elliot Rodger’s killing spree in California, media has been absolutely buzzing with hysterical propaganda against guns, men, and white people. Should you happen to be a white male gun owner, you might well be Satan himself according to some of these people. I’m torn between laughing at it, and hiding under my bed. On the one hand, the information is just so blatantly false that one is tempted to simply ridicule the people spewing it, on the other, it is a very real threat to my safety.

So far I’ve focused on the gun control aspect of it, because that’s generally the go to after any shooting. It was a pretty good bet, because predictably this was pinned to the NRA by many. It matters not to them, that half the killings were carried out with a knife, several injuries were caused by a vehicle, and the shooting took place in California where guns are all but outlawed. When have facts ever been a part of the gun grabber’s argument?

The more disturbing trend is one I’ve also been combating here for some time. Radical feminists and “anti-racists” who demonize men and white people. Some of you may have thought I was crazy for battling back and forth with the likes of Antonio Buehler and Cathy Reisenwitz, but I sincerely hope the recent frenzy shows you why I’ve taken these problems so seriously.

I was shocked and terrified to hear Elizabeth Plank say “This is a white male thing” on MSNBC, despite the fact that Elliot Rodger was half Asian.

The discussion of Elliot Rodger’s killing spree is now revolving around “misogyny” and led to the hashtag #YesAllWomen trending on twitter. Now, there’s no question that Rodger had serious issues with women. He was a 22 year old virgin, and if you watch his YouTube channel you can understand why. He is said to have been diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome at a young age, he was very socially awkward, and he was not masculine in his appearance or mannerisms. These are all good reasons to legalize prostitution, not go out and murder a bunch of people.

Just like the gun control fanatics focus on guns with absolute blindness to the absurdity of their case, so do the radical feminists focus on “misogyny”. Never mind the fact that Rodger actually killed twice as many men as he did women. The #YesAllWomen hashtag claims that all women live in fear of violence from men, feeding into this insane narrative of an over looming, “patriarchy” victimizing and oppressing all women. To them, Elliot Rodger is just one example of this horrific life that women must suffer through at the hands of their male abusers.

http://www.christophercantwell.com/2014/05/28/yesallwomen-complete-nonsense/

Brian4Liberty
05-28-2014, 02:41 PM
War on women! White men are racist! Hillary/Michelle 2016!

eduardo89
05-28-2014, 02:42 PM
War on women! White men are racist! Hillary/Michelle 2016!

and the LP will nominate a Cathy Reisenwitz/Antonio Buehler ticket.

MelissaWV
05-28-2014, 04:26 PM
The #YesAllWomen hashtag claims that all women live in fear of violence from men, feeding into this insane narrative of an over looming, “patriarchy” victimizing and oppressing all women.

This is more insulting to women than any of the statements an insane guy allegedly made before stabbing a bunch of guys and shooting at random people.

Natural Citizen
05-28-2014, 04:40 PM
I've never heard of #YesAllWomen until I read it here. What is it? Beyond a twitter account, that is...

dannno
05-28-2014, 04:49 PM
I've never heard of #YesAllWomen until I read it here. What is it? Beyond a twitter account, that is...

@YesAllWomen would be a twitter account, #YesAllWomen is a hashtag so people can sort through tweets with the same topic.

MelissaWV
05-28-2014, 04:50 PM
I've never heard of #YesAllWomen until I read it here. What is it?

I hadn't, either, but it's a temporary "movement." That's how I think of these little Twittergasms the world has, anyhow. Remember Kony? And Bring Back Our Girls?


The hashtag #YesAllWomen was born and became the label under which women shared their experiences with male entitlement. According to Hashtags.org, #YesAllWomen — which didn't exist before May 24 — has been attached to 1.2 million tweets, peaking at 61,500 tweets on May 25. (Topsy pegs the number of tweets at just over 1 million.)

Basically there are a huge number of tweets with negative experiences that find their roots in unfair or ridiculous actions by men who were either being outright misogynist or had some other basis for the rules being different for them.

I don't think #YesAllMen would take off, though, and that's part of the problem. Couldn't there be a rather large number of awful stories of guys whose girlfriends extorted them, whose wives nabbed way more than their fair share in the divorce, and who've been abused in multiple ways by women over their life? I just don't think this "trending" is healthy or fair to either side of things. There's one tweet, for instance, that talks about a rapist not put away even though he confessed on tape. I don't read that and think it's because men are assholes or something. I read it and realize it's an issue with our "justice" system and the way people expect it to work versus how it actually does. And yeah, there are women in law enforcement that help it happen.

economics102
05-28-2014, 04:58 PM
#YesAllFeminists

juleswin
05-28-2014, 05:03 PM
I've never heard of #YesAllWomen until I read it here. What is it? Beyond a twitter account, that is...

Its a twitter hashtag to promotes the idea that all women are in danger of male violence. My guess is that the All part was to strongly emphasize that even though the mad man Rogers talked mainly about blond ladies, all women are in danger of violence from men.

I was following a forum chat about the incident on the dailykos and one of the member was talking about how white men are oh so violent and society needs to be made aware of them. Then another member chimed in and asked him if he would still be broad brushing a whole gender and race if a black man had committed the crime? Suffice to say, that line of discussion ended there. Other kept pointing fingers not at the crazy kid but the race and gender but that particular poster then replied to the response he got

AuH20
05-28-2014, 05:10 PM
I find it hilarious how hybrids like George Zimmerman & this Elliott Rodger, who don't look like your typical 'Caucasian', conveniently get dragged into the whole 'the white male is the bane of society' argument.

James Madison
05-28-2014, 05:12 PM
I find it hilarious how hybrids like George Zimmerman & this Elliott Rodger who don't look typically 'Caucasian' conveniently get dragged into the whole 'the white male is the bane of society' argument.

And how Obama is the 'first black president', despite being half-white. Would he become a 'white african' if he flipped his shit and went postal?

HVACTech
05-28-2014, 05:13 PM
but that particular poster then replied to the response he got

that's nice.

is there a way to do that, on RPF's?

juleswin
05-28-2014, 05:27 PM
that's nice.

is there a way to do that, on RPF's?

Crapper, I meant to say he/she never got a reply for the poster's question. I have a feeling that all this attack on men(white men in particular) has been waiting in the wings. Something needed to be done to discredit(PUA, MRAs etc) groups that have been making fine work on feminist theories and this incident they thought could be used in their favor.

HVACTech
05-28-2014, 05:32 PM
I have a feeling that all this attack on men(white men in particular) has been waiting in the wings.

you just noticed?
fancy that.

otherone
05-28-2014, 05:38 PM
I don't think #YesAllMen would take off, though, and that's part of the problem.

That sounds like a gay porn site.

dannno
05-28-2014, 05:41 PM
Heh, women hate PUAs, but apparently they hate men who hate PUAs more :p

Feeding the Abscess
05-28-2014, 05:46 PM
Heh, women hate PUAs, but apparently they hate men who hate PUAs more :p

And then they lump guys who hate PUAs into being supportive of PUAs and part of that movement, as well as being MRAs.

You cannot win against that kind of crazy.

I<3Liberty
05-28-2014, 06:21 PM
I'm going to post a few paragraphs, though I actually think it gets better after the stuff I'm quoting [myriad links at the original source]:

http://www.christophercantwell.com/2014/05/28/yesallwomen-complete-nonsense/

The #yesallwomen tag really isn't anything new. It's a common reaction to tragic events and people will do this all the time. Say there's a bombing and 2 kids are killed along with 50 adults. The news article and reporter will almost always emphasize the fact that the kids died, the elderly, women, and other perceived vulnerable groups.

From what I've seen, the #yesallwomen hashtags are also talking about all violence against women and this recent event just stirred it back up. Most people would agree that the shooting spree had nothing to do with the cultural misogyny and the hashtag was irrelevant. This guy was a psychopath and like other psychopaths, they have very odd perspectives with no real logic behind it.


and the LP will nominate a Cathy Reisenwitz/Antonio Buehler ticket.

Hey! Don't hate on Cathy. I can't say I agree with everything she says, but appreciate her less-conventional liberty activism and work.

MelissaWV
05-28-2014, 06:29 PM
The #yesallwomen tag really isn't anything new. It's a common reaction to tragic events and people will do this all the time. Say there's a bombing and 2 kids are killed along with 50 adults. The news article and reporter will almost always emphasize the fact that the kids died, the elderly, women, and other perceived vulnerable groups.

From what I've seen, the #yesallwomen hashtags are also talking about all violence against women and this recent event just stirred it back up. Most people would agree that the shooting spree had nothing to do with the cultural misogyny and the hashtag was irrelevant. This guy was a psychopath and like other psychopaths, they have very odd perspectives with no real logic behind it.



Hey! Don't hate on Cathy. I can't say I agree with everything she says, but appreciate her less-conventional liberty activism and work.

Right, but it was stirred up because the initial report was basically "crazy college virgin goes on shooting rampage against beautiful women because he was rejected by beautiful women in general." That narrative is insulting to pretty much everyone who was killed --- particularly his roomies who were definitely male, and absolutely stabbed. Still, the manifesto combined with the MSM has created this weird conversation about mean girls on one side and men being a constant threat to women on the other. The whole thing is crazy.

Austrian Econ Disciple
05-28-2014, 06:35 PM
The #yesallwomen tag really isn't anything new. It's a common reaction to tragic events and people will do this all the time. Say there's a bombing and 2 kids are killed along with 50 adults. The news article and reporter will almost always emphasize the fact that the kids died, the elderly, women, and other perceived vulnerable groups.

From what I've seen, the #yesallwomen hashtags are also talking about all violence against women and this recent event just stirred it back up. Most people would agree that the shooting spree had nothing to do with the cultural misogyny and the hashtag was irrelevant. This guy was a psychopath and like other psychopaths, they have very odd perspectives with no real logic behind it.



Hey! Don't hate on Cathy. I can't say I agree with everything she says, but appreciate her less-conventional liberty activism and work.

I get a bit irritated with all the hypocrisy that's slung from ignorant mouths. They'll use this incident to stereotype an entire race and gender, and then in the same breath lambast anyone else who does it as racists, bigots, misogynists, etc. In other words, these people have no credibility, are intellectual retarded, and if they did not have the soapbox like they do could easily be ignored. I guess it's ok to be racist and misandry against white males. (Not saying you are spewing any of this, only an observation of the 'opposition')

HVACTech
05-28-2014, 06:55 PM
Right, but it was stirred up because the initial report was basically "crazy college virgin goes on shooting rampage against beautiful women because he was rejected by beautiful women in general." That narrative is insulting to pretty much everyone who was killed --- particularly his roomies who were definitely male, and absolutely stabbed. Still, the manifesto combined with the MSM has created this weird conversation about mean girls on one side and men being a constant threat to women on the other. The whole thing is crazy.

yes, dear.

otherone
05-28-2014, 07:05 PM
srously....SHUT UP.
You have NO idea what it's like being a hottie.

http://misfitpolitics.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/selfie2.jpg

Natural Citizen
05-28-2014, 07:08 PM
I looked at some of the postings on the twitter thing. How do we know they're all telling the truth?

HVACTech
05-28-2014, 07:25 PM
I looked at some of the postings on the twitter thing. How do we know they're all telling the truth?

sockpuppets are Not allowed on the interwebs.

is why.

(sarcasm)..

Natural Citizen
05-28-2014, 07:36 PM
Kind of reminds me of this old thing.... Washington wives use influence to target sex, drugs in rock music (http://www.csmonitor.com/1985/0823/arock.html) Some of these bands ended up having to defend themselves in Congress and it turned out that the only reason they ever even made an issue out of it was because their respective husbands were considering running for office. Which they eventually did. Gore having been VP. After that they dropped the issue (s) and public outcry.

Many, in fact, most, folks here probably weren't even born when this happened but the phenomenon is strikingly similar. You'd have to do a search on "Washington Wives" from the mid 80's to better understand the similarities.

It was super slick what they pulled off for political gain.

Here is some relevance...didn't spend a lot of time looking, really. Rap, Rock, and Censorship: Popular Culture and the Technologies of Justice (1993) (http://deflem.blogspot.com/1993/08/rap-rock-and-censorship-1993.html)

Spikender
05-28-2014, 07:41 PM
I'm pretty sure that #yesallwomen isn't a response to this particular Elliot Rodgers event but is a response to another hashtag called #notallmen that was made to say that not all men are violent.

Regardless, I'm just tired of crazy feminists arguing about men being violent psychopaths who you need to be careful around. With this much fearmongering... if men start being too scared to approach women at bars out of fear of being labeled crazy, they shouldn't be surprised.

They'd have brought it on themselves.

otherone
05-28-2014, 07:48 PM
I'm pretty sure that #yesallwomen isn't a response to this particular Elliot Rodgers event but is a response to another hashtag called #notallmen that was made to say that not all men are violent.



Each gender has members with their heads up their asses. Believing that all men or all women have the same experiences or behaviors is ludicrous.

MelissaWV
05-28-2014, 07:50 PM
I'm pretty sure that #yesallwomen isn't a response to this particular Elliot Rodgers event but is a response to another hashtag called #notallmen that was made to say that not all men are violent.

Regardless, I'm just tired of crazy feminists arguing about men being violent psychopaths who you need to be careful around. With this much fearmongering... if men start being too scared to approach women at bars out of fear of being labeled crazy, they shouldn't be surprised.

They'd have brought it on themselves.


Although Rodger is obviously an extreme case, his sense of male sexual entitlement resonated widely with women. The hashtag #YesAllWomen was born and became the label under which women shared their experiences with male entitlement. According to Hashtags.org, #YesAllWomen — which didn't exist before May 24 — has been attached to 1.2 million tweets, peaking at 61,500 tweets on May 25. (Topsy pegs the number of tweets at just over 1 million.)


Some men responded to #YesAllWomen with another hashtag, #NotAllMen. The tag has existed for a while, and it's usually used in counterpoints to feminist arguments. However, in the wake of the shooting, tweets with #NotAllMen are more likely to be in support of #YesAllWomen than arguing against feminism.

So, sort of right in that #NotAllMen has existed before, but the #YesAllWomen thing was not a direct response to that.

Spikender
05-28-2014, 07:54 PM
I see. I'm pretty sure the hastag itself is based off of #Notallmen either way, even if it's not a response to it, but I personally find all this gender arguing stuff silly, especially considering that Elliot Rodgers ranted about how much he hated men as well in that manifesto and how he thought we were all dirty and how he was actually a god.

If anything, this man was insane with a god complex and wanted to rationalize his killings any way he could. Hell, three of his victims were Asian and he apparently ranted about his hatred for Asians, so this apparently was also fueled by racism.

cajuncocoa
05-28-2014, 08:11 PM
We are so f*cked.

Warrior_of_Freedom
05-28-2014, 08:17 PM
Why does this topic exist? It only brings attention to something stupid, though I could argue 99.99999998% of everything on both twitter and facebook are garbage. I use neither, so I never heard of this hashtag, and wish it would have stayed that way.

No1butPaul
05-28-2014, 08:19 PM
The only war on women was launched by the gun control fanatics trying to render them defenseless -- THAT is the real war on women IMHO.

ADD: There is, however, a bigger war being waged on vets...starting with the closing of the WWII monument during the gov't shutdown, to Benghazi, the VA coverups, and more broadly, the military armament of the police department targeting returning vets. Either way you slice it, it's the radical liberals at war with the American people. Conservatives just don't do a very good job of making the case.

Spikender
05-28-2014, 08:26 PM
The only war on women was launched by the gun control fanatics trying to render them defenseless -- THAT is the real war on women IMHO.

Ah yes, I did see an interview on television with a professor ranting about how no one needs three semi-automatic handguns right after this happened.

Of course, we already knew what they wanted to do with this incident before it even happened.

I<3Liberty
05-28-2014, 09:14 PM
I get a bit irritated with all the hypocrisy that's slung from ignorant mouths. They'll use this incident to stereotype an entire race and gender, and then in the same breath lambast anyone else who does it as racists, bigots, misogynists, etc. In other words, these people have no credibility, are intellectual retarded, and if they did not have the soapbox like they do could easily be ignored. I guess it's ok to be racist and misandry against white males. (Not saying you are spewing any of this, only an observation of the 'opposition')

The group that's most afraid of newfound stereotypes is the Asperger's community and their friends and family. Many of the recent tragedies were caused by men with Asperger's or other mental health problems; this has generated a lot of wrong stereotypes about Asperger's and people with mental illness. I can't speak on behalf of people that belong to either of these communities or men since I don't belong to either group, but I don't believe feminists are the ones/are the only ones perpetuating these stereotypes. Firstly, feminists come in many varieties and the term is used to label a wide array of views. Secondly, it's the MSM who are disproportionately covering crimes committed by whites. The #yesallwomen hashtag isn't perpetuating any white stereotypes or misconceptions. If you want to see racist tweets about whites, search #whitegirlproblems and #whiteguyproblems. :D




Regardless, I'm just tired of crazy feminists arguing about men being violent psychopaths who you need to be careful around. With this much fearmongering... if men start being too scared to approach women at bars out of fear of being labeled crazy, they shouldn't be surprised.


Parents of daughters do this more than any feminist I know.

The MSM mostly focuses on male violence against women and violence against children since it is more common and people get all worked up when the victim(s) are from a perceived vulnerable group. It's unfortunate that violence against men doesn't get as much awareness.

Brandywine
05-28-2014, 09:41 PM
I don't think it's an attack on all men, it's more of a, "Hey, this is a perspective our culture seems to have, and taken to extremes seems to play a role in bad behavior, let's look closer at it." Some people are capable of perceiving different perspectives or looking at things in a new way, while others immediately get defensive and rant about women dressing too immodestly, women not putting out enough to satisfy men, or how women can hurt men too. Yes, well spotted, people can hurt people. That's not, however, in any way related to the cultural view being analyzed, and does nothing but awkwardly reveal in the form of a defensive reflex some kind of personal insecurity about the subject at hand.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/27/your-princess-is-in-another-castle-misogyny-entitlement-and-nerds.html
(http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/27/your-princess-is-in-another-castle-misogyny-entitlement-and-nerds.html)
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/05/_yesallwomen_in_the_wake_of_elliot_rodger_why_it_s _so_hard_for_men_to_recognize.html
(http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/05/_yesallwomen_in_the_wake_of_elliot_rodger_why_it_s _so_hard_for_men_to_recognize.html)

acptulsa
05-28-2014, 09:50 PM
Ah yes, I did see an interview on television with a professor ranting about how no one needs three semi-automatic handguns right after this happened.

Obviously the man's three roommates could have done with the same.

If he had brought his knife to a gunfight, not one woman would even have been threatened by him.

eduardo89
05-29-2014, 10:19 AM
Hey! Don't hate on Cathy. I can't say I agree with everything she says, but appreciate her less-conventional liberty activism and work.

She's a leftist who is no ally to the liberty movement.

http://www.christophercantwell.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Cathy-Reisenwitz-Says-American-Libertarians-are-Super-Racist.jpg

PaulConventionWV
05-29-2014, 12:34 PM
I hadn't, either, but it's a temporary "movement." That's how I think of these little Twittergasms the world has, anyhow. Remember Kony? And Bring Back Our Girls?

It's kind of funny thinking about #BringBackOurGirls in the past tense. Didn't that just happen a couple of weeks ago? What, did everyone stop caring? Who said they were 'our' girls anyway? /rambling


Basically there are a huge number of tweets with negative experiences that find their roots in unfair or ridiculous actions by men who were either being outright misogynist or had some other basis for the rules being different for them.

All anecdotal evidence of a supposed societal caste system... well, both genders can play at that game, as you point out by stating...


I don't think #YesAllMen would take off, though, and that's part of the problem. Couldn't there be a rather large number of awful stories of guys whose girlfriends extorted them, whose wives nabbed way more than their fair share in the divorce, and who've been abused in multiple ways by women over their life?

Indeed. It wouldn't take off, not because the world is so great for men, but because the men who participated would be endlessly chastised by the PC police. Never mind the severe injustices that men face in today's society. We are expected to grin and bear it and support the women's rights movement or be thrown under the bus. If you believe this is unfair, you're a heretic. The truth is, men are afraid to speak their minds.


I just don't think this "trending" is healthy or fair to either side of things. There's one tweet, for instance, that talks about a rapist not put away even though he confessed on tape. I don't read that and think it's because men are assholes or something. I read it and realize it's an issue with our "justice" system and the way people expect it to work versus how it actually does. And yeah, there are women in law enforcement that help it happen.

Hashtag activism needs to die. Who in the world thought this was some revolutionary concept? It's a freaking joke.

PaulConventionWV
05-29-2014, 12:44 PM
I'm pretty sure that #yesallwomen isn't a response to this particular Elliot Rodgers event but is a response to another hashtag called #notallmen that was made to say that not all men are violent.

Regardless, I'm just tired of crazy feminists arguing about men being violent psychopaths who you need to be careful around. With this much fearmongering... if men start being too scared to approach women at bars out of fear of being labeled crazy, they shouldn't be surprised.

They'd have brought it on themselves.

#YesAllWomenDidThisToThemselves

PaulConventionWV
05-29-2014, 12:47 PM
So, sort of right in that #NotAllMen has existed before, but the #YesAllWomen thing was not a direct response to that.

#NotAllMen being the self-hating male apologist wing of the movement.

William Tell
05-29-2014, 12:50 PM
#NotAllMen being the self-hating male apologist wing of the movement.

Yeah, the feminists need a 'uncle tom' type word to bash normal gals with. :p

NewRightLibertarian
05-29-2014, 12:56 PM
These morons represent all women just like Occupy represented the 99 percent. Let these hens squawk for a little while until the next distraction grabs their attention.

Philhelm
05-29-2014, 02:02 PM
Perhaps all females should have their thumbs surgically removed at birth.

otherone
05-29-2014, 03:01 PM
She's a leftist who is no ally to the liberty movement.

http://www.christophercantwell.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Cathy-Reisenwitz-Says-American-Libertarians-are-Super-Racist.jpg


SROUSLY....there should be a LAW against racist comments....:rolleyes:

eduardo89
05-29-2014, 03:03 PM
SROUSLY....there should be a LAW against racist comments....:rolleyes:

I bet Reisenwitz would support that. And a law against white privilege as well; first step is to ban bitcoin.

http://www.christophercantwell.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/bitcoinisracist.jpg

Spikender
05-29-2014, 03:44 PM
It's always white female liberal college girls who are absorbed into this swirling vortex of hate.

It's funny how "privileged" folks are becoming so obsessed with privilege.

PaulConventionWV
05-31-2014, 03:24 PM
I bet Reisenwitz would support that. And a law against white privilege as well; first step is to ban bitcoin.

http://www.christophercantwell.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/bitcoinisracist.jpg

Wow... I can hardly believe my eyes.

She needs to get bitch-slapped.

Suzanimal
06-01-2014, 06:29 AM
The only war on women was launched by the gun control fanatics trying to render them defenseless -- THAT is the real war on women IMHO.

+
I agree wholeheartedly with this statement.

http://i.imgur.com/AjM4td9m.jpg

tod evans
06-01-2014, 07:07 AM
Sounds like poor ol' Cathy Reisenwitz needs to be ridden hard and put away wet.....:rolleyes:

KingNothing
06-01-2014, 07:16 AM
Wow... I can hardly believe my eyes.

She needs to get bitch-slapped.


Is that what Jesus would do, say, or even think?

KurtBoyer25L
06-01-2014, 11:01 AM
Kind of reminds me of this old thing.... Washington wives use influence to target sex, drugs in rock music (http://www.csmonitor.com/1985/0823/arock.html) Some of these bands ended up having to defend themselves in Congress and it turned out that the only reason they ever even made an issue out of it was because their respective husbands were considering running for office. Which they eventually did. Gore having been VP. After that they dropped the issue (s) and public outcry.

Many, in fact, most, folks here probably weren't even born when this happened but the phenomenon is strikingly similar. You'd have to do a search on "Washington Wives" from the mid 80's to better understand the similarities.

It was super slick what they pulled off for political gain.

Here is some relevance...didn't spend a lot of time looking, really. Rap, Rock, and Censorship: Popular Culture and the Technologies of Justice (1993) (http://deflem.blogspot.com/1993/08/rap-rock-and-censorship-1993.html)

Yeah, and the interesting thing was the music being targeted, like Twisted Sister (whose songs touched on *fighting* the old patriarchy) and Duran Duran. I like Duran Duran *because* they have always respected women as human beings in their love songs.

Today, mainstream rappers produce songs with absolutely no respect or regard for women or male sexuality at all. Abominably retched & degrading lyrics, and yet politicians will even quote them trying to be "hip," such as Marco Rubio for instance.

I guess that's progress, in the anti-censorship sense.

James Madison
06-01-2014, 12:16 PM
Yeah, and the interesting thing was the music being targeted, like Twisted Sister (whose songs touched on *fighting* the old patriarchy) and Duran Duran. I like Duran Duran *because* they have always respected women as human beings in their love songs.

Today, mainstream rappers produce songs with absolutely no respect or regard for women or male sexuality at all. Abominably retched & degrading lyrics, and yet politicians will even quote them trying to be "hip," such as Marco Rubio for instance.

I guess that's progress, in the anti-censorship sense.

This is because women today want to have their cake and eat it, too.

You take a culture that values criminality, confrontation, and irresponsibility (ghetto culture -- not black culture, there's a difference) and then project it to the general public. Surprise surprise when morals start decaying. And then people enjoy listening to this 'music' but turn around and say that all men are rapists? Really?

KurtBoyer25L
06-01-2014, 02:15 PM
This is because women today want to have their cake and eat it, too.

You take a culture that values criminality, confrontation, and irresponsibility (ghetto culture -- not black culture, there's a difference) and then project it to the general public. Surprise surprise when morals start decaying. And then people enjoy listening to this 'music' but turn around and say that all men are rapists? Really?

That's a very cogent point. You don't see a lot of feminists speaking out against Eminem or Nelly.

PaulConventionWV
06-01-2014, 03:16 PM
Is that what Jesus would do, say, or even think?

Why is this guy still talking to me?

/ignore

John F Kennedy III
06-02-2014, 03:35 AM
Sounds like poor ol' Cathy Reisenwitz needs to be ridden hard and put away wet.....:rolleyes:

I'll take one for the team. But we're going to need an EMT on site with stitches and a oxygen mask. Keep the defibrillator at hand as well.

otherone
06-02-2014, 06:11 AM
That's a very cogent point. You don't see a lot of feminists speaking out against Eminem or Nelly.

That's because they have a common enemy...

Natural Citizen
06-02-2014, 01:09 PM
This might go here. I don't know. :cool:


Edit - Actually meant to share it in this other thread instead. Too late now though - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?452845-Another-Sex-Shooting-in-CA&highlight=%23YesAllWomen

Marcha de las Putas - Bare-breasted marchers protest violence against women in Colombia
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Hundreds of protesters took to the streets of the Colombian capital of Bogota on Saturday to protest against discrimination and violence against women.

The march was named 'La Marcha de las Putas' (Slut March). Mar Candela, one of the organizers of the rally, told AFP that one of their objectives is "to take power away from the word 'slut,' and instead empower women in order to have a free society."

Many women marched topless using their bare breasts as banners. "Free, pretty, crazy," reads the slogan written on the woman's body on the left. Many carried placards reading "Slut or not, no is no" and "No to violence," as well as "In my body I am in command."

Women shout slogans during the 'Marcha de las Putas' in Bogota, Colombia, on May 31, 2014.

The rate of sexual violence in Colombia stands at 44 assaults per 100,000 people.

Half-naked women take part in the 'Marcha de las Putas' (Slut March) in Bogota to protest against discrimination and violence against women.

Some men also took part in the march to show their solidarity with the cause. Some wore skirts while others painted their bodies.