Dad faces 'child cruelty' charge for forcing son to carry stone as punishment

[green73]

DOUGLASVILLE, Ga. – Police arrested a Douglasville father on child cruelty charges after the man punished his 16-year-old son by making him carry a 23-pound landscape stone for several miles.

Charlie Mayes, a 40-year-old military veteran with no criminal record, told police he used military-style punishment because his son watched too many videos and didn't do his chores and school work. Douglasville Police charged Mayes with first-degree child cruelty.

"This was done multiple times over a three-day period, sometimes as early as 3 o'clock in the morning," Police Sgt. Todd Garner told 11Alive on Tuesday.

Garner said the boy, who is only 4'2" tall, was also punished in-between the 3-mile hikes.

"In between that time, he was at home having to move rocks and stuff from one side of the back yard to the other and then being taken right back out to the same location and dropped off and made to walk back again," Sgt. Garner added.

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http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/douglasville/2014/05/27/charlie-mayes-teen-punished/9642971/

[VIDEODROME]

It could be more specific about "Watching to many videos". Also, was he specifically failing his classes or just procrastinating on homework, but getting it done at the last minute and still passing?

As for chores, just cut off his internet if he's spending to much time of YouTube or watching porn.

[jkr]

pu$$ification


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCoqFOkHsao

[Uriel999]

lol. I r amused.

[specsaregood]

"In between that time, he was at home having to move rocks and stuff from one side of the back yard to the other and then being taken right back out to the same location and dropped off and made to walk back again," Sgt. Garner added.

meh, should have had the kid build a rock wall or something out of those rocks, at least then he'd learn a skill while being "punished".

[asurfaholic]

It could be more specific about "Watching to many videos". Also, was he specifically failing his classes or just procrastinating on homework, but getting it done at the last minute and still passing?

As for chores, just cut off his internet if he's spending to much time of YouTube or watching porn.


Why the fuck does it matter to you?

Parent > child.

Child doesn't follow the rules, gets punished.

[Tod]

meh, should have had the kid build a rock wall or something out of those rocks, at least then he'd learn a skill while being "punished".

Exactly.....as it is, dear old dad is only teaching the kid to resent him and resolve to avoid such useless tasks as soon as he has a say in the matter. Lame parenting has gotten the situation to where it is now, when the kid is 16.

[jbauer]

Oh lord, my folks would be up for execution at the next available Fema camp opening. Mine are to young to do labor as a punishment although when I have the "help me" do something (to teach them whatever we happen to be working on) I'm sure I'd be guilty of all kinds of crimes and thought crimes.

[specsaregood]

Exactly.....as it is, dear old dad is only teaching the kid to resent him and resolve to avoid such useless tasks as soon as he has a say in the matter. Lame parenting has gotten the situation to where it is now, when the kid is 16.

Not only that; but actually doing something, building something can be entertaining and rewarding. If the complaint was the kid played too many video games or watched tv, he should have drug that kid out back to shingle the roof, build a rock wall, build a brick bbq, hell even a treehouse or doghouse.

I remember fondly the years helping my dad shingle our roof, pouring a patio foundation, building rabbit hutches, whatever. I didn't even mind mowing the acreage...

[eduardo89]

A judge ordered the father to get family counseling.

And I order that judge to mind his own f'ing business.

[mad cow]

Four foot two seems mighty small for a 16 year old male.I wonder if he was healthy enough for all of that exertion.

[Shane Harris]

meh, should have had the kid build a rock wall or something out of those rocks, at least then he'd learn a skill while being "punished".

The guy is military, of course he made his son do the equivalent of digging ditches then refilling them. It makes perfect sense. Thats how he was trained/punished.

[Cissy]

Four foot two seems mighty small for a 16 year old male.I wonder if he was healthy enough for all of that exertion.

Indeed. I wonder if that is a journalistic error or his actual height.

If it is his height, I wonder if genetics or disease come into play here.

[Occam's Banana]

[The father made his boy] move rocks and stuff from one side of the back yard to the other and then [he was] taken right back out to the same location and dropped off and made to walk back again," Sgt. Garner added.

Looks like daddy might be some kinda Keynesian ...


It could be more specific about "Watching to many videos". Also, was he specifically failing his classes or just procrastinating on homework, but getting it done at the last minute and still passing?

As for chores, just cut off his internet if he's spending to much time of YouTube or watching porn.

Or, you know, we could, like, not worry about any of that stuff and just mind our own damn business ...

[FindLiberty]

Why the big rush now?
The pattern should have never taken hold (while he child was >10 yrs younger - maybe before age 5).

In two years (at 18) he can sign up and then be forced to do these same punishments in boot camp.

It all sucks.

[eduardo89]

Looks like daddy might be some kinda Keynesian ...

Just because he's black doesn't mean he was born in Africa. That's racist.

[francisco]

Four foot two seems mighty small for a 16 year old male.I wonder if he was healthy enough for all of that exertion.


Indeed. I wonder if that is a journalistic error or his actual height.

If it is his height, I wonder if genetics or disease come into play here.

Or--and this is only speculation but deserving of inquiry--was the kid being fed properly?

There have been other cases where deranged parents have locked up kids and withheld proper nutrition.

[Dr.3D]

The guy is military, of course he made his son do the equivalent of digging ditches then refilling them. It makes perfect sense. Thats how he was trained/punished.
Must have been watching too much of that "Cool Hand Luke" movie.

[Christian Liberty]

The guy is military, of course he made his son do the equivalent of digging ditches then refilling them. It makes perfect sense. Thats how he was trained/punished.

Yep. The military made the dad into an idiot (or so it seems.)

I don't support government involvement but the guy sounds like a jerk.

[FriedChicken]

Just because he's black doesn't mean he was born in Africa. That's racist.

LOL.
that's how I read it for a split second also. I was like ... where did it say he was Kenya?? Then I got it.

[FriedChicken]

If what is printed is the whole story (I never trust the papers/media - it could be much worse or totally overblown.) then I'd say its absurd that they charged him with anything.
Yeah, the dad sounds like a jerk to me. But he wasn't physically harming the boy. I hate the precedent that this sets - as a parent not opposed to spanking as punishment I wonder how far this intervention into family discipline will go.

If the boy wasn't fed, physically harmed or obviously over exhausted regularly then that does change some things.

[otherone]

Just because he's black doesn't mean he was born in Africa. That's racist.

Yes. He could be an Australian like Ron Paul.

[CaseyJones]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1BJfDvSITY&feature=kp

[euphemia]

If what is printed is the whole story, then shame on the dad. The son has been allowed to get away with this, so he has developed bad habits and an attitude of disrespect. Parents should be following up daily on chores and school work. This is just as much the parents' fault as the boy's.

[Cleaner44]

It is only acceptable when the state does it...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oudNoKfNUfs

[oyarde]

There are people in the guest forum I would make carry stones if they were my kids , lol

[VIDEODROME]

Or, you know, we could, like, not worry about any of that stuff and just mind our own damn business ...

I was just trying to say the article is short on detail and background. I mean what does "Watching to many videos" mean?

[oyarde]

I was just trying to say the article is short on detail and background. I mean what does "Watching to many videos" mean?

I guess it means , not getting enough work done .

[Christian Liberty]

If what is printed is the whole story (I never trust the papers/media - it could be much worse or totally overblown.) then I'd say its absurd that they charged him with anything.
Yeah, the dad sounds like a jerk to me. But he wasn't physically harming the boy. I hate the precedent that this sets - as a parent not opposed to spanking as punishment I wonder how far this intervention into family discipline will go.

If the boy wasn't fed, physically harmed or obviously over exhausted regularly then that does change some things.

While I agree, I have a hard time imagining NOT being over exhausted regularly when being forced to do this sort of thing at 3AM.

While I wouldn't condone government involvement, I also wouldn't condone government involvement if he had another, less absurd family member to take him in.

[Uriel999]

I personally don't see the problem.

[Occam's Banana]

I was just trying to say the article is short on detail and background. I mean what does "Watching to many videos" mean?

I know what you were trying to say.
And "watching too many videos" obviously means that the boy's father thinks the boy is watching too many videos.

I was trying to say, "What does it matter?"
If we knew how many the father thought was too many, you and I might think the father was being "unreasonable" about it.
But what difference does that make? It's none of our business ...

[Christian Liberty]

I personally don't see the problem.

You're in the military, of course you wouldn't.

I fail to see how this is a fruitful form of discipline in any way, and the article is vague enough that we don't even really know if the kid actually did something wrong.

Now, I agree that the "child cruelty" charge was uncalled for based on the article. But the dad seems like a jerk. And I could imagine why someone who was less skeptical of government control in general might support them here. At the least, this is less aggravating to me than seeing someone get dragged away because they sold marijuana, or something like that.

[VIDEODROME]

It's none of our business ...

It's our business now because there is a thread about it and we're bored enough to bother discussing it.

;)

[VIDEODROME]

I guess it means , not getting enough work done .

So while the kid was moving rocks did any chores get done?

[aGameOfThrones]

Just call 911 if you want to punish your kids

[Christian Liberty]

So while the kid was moving rocks did any chores get done?

Yeah, that definitely strikes me as odd. I know some people see purposeless work as a good thing because it teaches a work ethic, but that seems absurd to me. At least do something useful. What is this supposed to accomplish?

[Anti Federalist]

But had the cops shown up in a wrong address SWAT raid and tased him to death...well...meh.

[Anti Federalist]

And this goes here:

http://www.seattlesportshell.com/files/2012/02/Simpsons-Stone-of-Triumph1.jpg

[Danke]

Just because he's black doesn't mean he was born in Africa. That's racist.

"We are all Keynesians now" - Milton Friedman

Did Milton know we were gonna elect a black president?

[mrsat_98]

There are people in the guest forum I would make carry stones if they were my kids , lol

Why limit it to the guest forums.

[Root]

When are they gonna arrest the parents who let their kids look like beach balls with legs and no necks?

[specsaregood]

When are they gonna arrest the parents who let their kids look like beach balls with legs and no necks?

Our alien rulers would not be happy about that when they come to slaughter their herd.

[eduardo89]

When are they gonna arrest the parents who let their kids look like beach balls with legs and no necks?

The lizard-people need those children. What else are they supposed to eat when the SHTF?

[VIDEODROME]

The lizard-people need those children. What else are they supposed to eat when the SHTF?

http://moviesmobile.net/thumbs/1086.jpg

[oyarde]

So while the kid was moving rocks did any chores get done?

It is to remember.Work was left undone.

[oyarde]

Yeah, that definitely strikes me as odd. I know some people see purposeless work as a good thing because it teaches a work ethic, but that seems absurd to me. At least do something useful. What is this supposed to accomplish?

It was unpleasant , hopefully he is above avg and will not wish to do it again.....

[oyarde]

meh, should have had the kid build a rock wall or something out of those rocks, at least then he'd learn a skill while being "punished".

That would be better , and at someone's house where you get pd for it :) , lay the cash in open view , tell him he can have it if he can cut down considerably on fucking up for a few months , LOL

[Mani]

So when my dad made me mow the lawn in the hot summer weather knowing I have allergies and cut lawns may trigger an asthma attack, could I have sent him off for child cruelty?

When he made me plant 500 trees one summer and I hated planting trees, could that be child cruelty?

When I was a tiny twerp and he made me work in his warehouse the whole summer lifting air conditioners the whole summer in the hot warehouse, could that be child cruelty?

I never thought of any of those as cruel, they just sucked, and there was work to be done, so I did it.

Granted it was actual real work, not carrying around useless rocks. But wtf is the gov't doing getting involved in parenting!?!? So the dad is a jerk or too late to discipline his kid. Well that's a family matter, maybe the kid has been a horrid lazy fuck forever, and now the dad feels the kid is finally old enough to to sweat it out old school style and build some muscle. Are you in that household? Do you know the struggles that dad has gone through to get that kid off the fucking computer? Is this a last ditch effort to get him off his ass and not play video games all day and end up failing high school and barely hold a job at Gamestop? (No offense to employees of Game Stop).

We don't know what lead the dad to that point. We don't know if he's just a jerk? We don't know if the dad wants the son to gain some muscle, some discipline, some manual labor to wake the fuck up, out of the kid, so he doesn't suck his life away playing video games.

Now we have to conform to the proper government guidelines of parenting!?!? If anyone uses parenting methods outside what is considered norm (which changes all the time - Spanking your child is OK. Spanking your child is NOT OK!! Spanking your child A LITTLE is OK, who knows tomorrow), then the dad can get busted by a judge.

How much more control does the gov't need in you life???

[green73]

So when my dad made me mow the lawn in the hot summer weather knowing I have allergies and cut lawns may trigger an asthma attack, could I have sent him off for child cruelty?

When he made me plant 500 trees one summer and I hated planting trees, could that be child cruelty?

When I was a tiny twerp and he made me work in his warehouse the whole summer lifting air conditioners the whole summer in the hot warehouse, could that be child cruelty?

I never thought of any of those as cruel, they just sucked, and there was work to be done, so I did it.

Granted it was actual real work, not carrying around useless rocks. But wtf is the gov't doing getting involved in parenting!?!? So the dad is a jerk or too late to discipline his kid. Well that's a family matter, maybe the kid has been a horrid lazy fuck forever, and now the dad feels the kid is finally old enough to to sweat it out old school style and build some muscle. Are you in that household? Do you know the struggles that dad has gone through to get that kid off the fucking computer? Is this a last ditch effort to get him off his ass and not play video games all day and end up failing high school and barely hold a job at Gamestop? (No offense to employees of Game Stop).

We don't know what lead the dad to that point. We don't know if he's just a jerk? We don't know if the dad wants the son to gain some muscle, some discipline, some manual labor to wake the fuck up, out of the kid, so he doesn't suck his life away playing video games.

Now we have to conform to the proper government guidelines of parenting!?!? If anyone uses parenting methods outside what is considered norm (which changes all the time - Spanking your child is OK. Spanking your child is NOT OK!! Spanking your child A LITTLE is OK, who knows tomorrow), then the dad can get busted by a judge.

How much more control does the gov't need in you life???

Thank goodness his dad didn't make him work out in a weight room. People here would probably be calling for a firing squad!

[fr33]

Thank goodness his dad didn't make him work out in a weight room. People here would probably be calling for a firing squad!

Some here read that dad was a former soldier and based their opinions on that. FF I'm talking about you. The neckbeards in their parents' basement that never held a job and are using student loans while philosophizing about liberty.

[LibForestPaul]

So if it was 5 pounds not cruel? Maybe 8 and 1/4? Was it round or jagged? Did he have boots, sneakers, or sandals? Was he near exhaustion that he had to be hospitalized, or did they just take the child, and where? Or did they show up 2 weeks later?