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Danke
05-23-2014, 11:52 AM
Defense Department Refuses to Tell Senate Which Groups We’re At War With

Posted on May 22, 2014 (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/defense-department-refuses-tell-senate-groups-war.html) by WashingtonsBlog (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/author/washingtonsblog)

Senate: Which Groups Are We At War With? Admin: That’s Classified

The Senate’s Committee on Foreign Relations held a hearing today on renewing the Authorization for the Use of Force (AUMF) in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Senators repeatedly asked representatives from the Department of Defense which groups we are at war with. And the DOD refused to answer (http://www.foreign.senate.gov/hearings/authorization-for-use-of-military-force-after-iraq-and-afghanistan-05-21-14).

As the ACLU’s deputy legal director and director of the ACLU’s Center for Democracy (Jameel Jaffer) tweets:
Senate: Which groups are we at war with? Admin: That’s classified.http://t.co/olW6B6Wy35
— Jameel Jaffer (@JameelJaffer) May 21, 2014 (https://twitter.com/JameelJaffer/statuses/469143273836400640)


In response, people tweeted how Orwellian this is (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/america-switched-sides-now-backs-al-qaeda-nazis.html):
@JameelJaffer (https://twitter.com/JameelJaffer) @trevortimm (https://twitter.com/trevortimm) Either Oceania or Eastasia, I think.
— Steven Bellovin (@SteveBellovin) May 21, 2014 (https://twitter.com/SteveBellovin/statuses/469158430687920128)


@JameelJaffer (https://twitter.com/JameelJaffer) @ggreenwald (https://twitter.com/ggreenwald) “We have always been at war with [classified].”
— Jay Schiavone (@jaytingle) May 21, 2014 (https://twitter.com/jaytingle/statuses/469194277629997056)


“@JameelJaffer (https://twitter.com/JameelJaffer): Senate: Which groups are we at war with? Admin: That’s classified…” Prob b/c we supportAl Qaeda even as we ‘fight’ them.
— Anthony Bisotti (@drbisotti) May 21, 2014 (https://twitter.com/drbisotti/statuses/469196748225646593)


@JameelJaffer (https://twitter.com/JameelJaffer) don’t ask who, or why. It’s your job to Clap Louder!
— Patrick Brennan (@pmbrennan) May 21, 2014 (https://twitter.com/pmbrennan/statuses/469197301790277634)


And noted that normal Americans (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/spying-meant-crush-dissent-terrorism.html) may not be immune (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/u-s-supreme-court-decision-means-nation-entered-post-constitutional-era.html):
@JameelJaffer (https://twitter.com/JameelJaffer) @Popehat (https://twitter.com/Popehat) easy list: US Veterans, Teachers, Police, Firefighters, Gun owners, Capitalists, Casual Pot users…..
— Brian James (@bjames50) May 21, 2014 (https://twitter.com/bjames50/statuses/469195052774727681)

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/defense-department-refuses-tell-senate-groups-war.html

acptulsa
05-23-2014, 11:55 AM
Dear Senate:

Give us money to fight... somebody.

DoD

JK/SEA
05-23-2014, 12:14 PM
Trick question. Technically, we're not at war with anyone. None declared.

Danke
05-23-2014, 12:17 PM
Trick question. Technically, we're not at war with anyone. None declared.

At war with the American people.

vita3
05-23-2014, 12:18 PM
Yes, we are "at war" with various radical Islamists we are currently arming in Syria.

Hello Merry-go-round

JK/SEA
05-23-2014, 12:27 PM
Congress tells Defense who we are at war with, not the other way around.

Mind bender ain't it?

Acala
05-23-2014, 12:41 PM
Truly Kafkaesque

Acala
05-23-2014, 12:44 PM
"Senator, we could tell you who we are at war with, but then we would have to kill you."

Danke
05-23-2014, 01:10 PM
They probably haven't told Russia nor China that they have the Doomsday weapon either.

Wolfgang Bohringer
05-23-2014, 01:21 PM
Don't you remember 1984: "We are no longer at war with East Asia, Now we are at war with...None of your Business. Its always been none of your business."

Acala
05-23-2014, 01:27 PM
Don't you remember 1984: "We are no longer at war with East Asia, Now we are at war with...None of your Business. Its always been none of your business."

Haha. In the old days at least they made up a plausible bogeyman.

pcosmar
05-23-2014, 01:37 PM
Mind bender ain't it?

It's FUBAR.

And it ain't going to unfuck itself.

Matt Collins
05-23-2014, 01:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfKdKWJEkM

phill4paul
05-23-2014, 01:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfKdKWJEkM

House speaker I lend my voice and hereby vote (classified).

pcosmar
05-23-2014, 01:45 PM
[/video]

Nice try at deflection..
But this real world SHIT is not the Onion and is certainly not fucking funny.

HOLLYWOOD
05-23-2014, 01:58 PM
The word OVERSIGHT is the biggest joke used in Washington DC for the past 100 years.


It appears EVERY government created agency has turned into a rouge self-radicalized national terror squads. Take your pick of any agency, bureau, department, service ; government graft, Racketeering, Influence, and Organized Crime, are rampant with very little control and intentionally ignored by spineless FOR SALE Congress. They could stop it in a heartbeat by defunding any government group.. how's that going for those rouge radical agencies refusing to answer and continue to lie to the U.S. taxpayers?


"OVERSIGHT"... The most abused and used lie within the Washington DC beltway.

Acala
05-23-2014, 02:56 PM
The truth is that they are not at war with any specific, identifiable group of people or country. We have reached a point where the state of war is continuous and generalized. War has finally become the goal itself, not a means to reach some other definable end - like defeating Country X. Because there is no enemy to defeat, there can never be an end to the war. It is the culmination of the "racket".

mrsat_98
05-23-2014, 04:03 PM
At war with the American people.

Go back to sleep comrade, American people have been the enemy since before you where born.

http://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/mesai-alarm.jpeg




Congress tells Defense who we are at war with, not the other way around.

Mind bender ain't it?



Everyone on the battlefield is subject to the trading with the enemy act. Welcome to the Homeland.

USA USA USA

http://www.offshootinc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/usachant.jpg

Theocrat
05-23-2014, 04:18 PM
We've always been at war with Eurasia.

CPUd
05-23-2014, 05:11 PM
Senators repeatedly asked representatives from the Department of Defense which groups we are at war with. And the DOD refused to answer (http://www.foreign.senate.gov/hearings/authorization-for-use-of-military-force-after-iraq-and-afghanistan-05-21-14).


Corker sounds like he is gunning for VP or a Cabinet position. They sorta got DoD to admit they didn't need either AUMF, until they realized they were saying the President could do whatever.

Matt Collins
05-23-2014, 06:00 PM
Nice try at deflection..
But this real world SHIT is not the Onion and is certainly not fucking funny.
I think you missed my point of pointing the video... the video is a joke and is satire... except that the joke has now become reality...

DamianTV
05-23-2014, 06:15 PM
War on Drugs? Fail - we prop up the Illegal Drug Industry by keeping drugs illegal

War on Immigration? Fail - we reward illegal immigration

War on Terror? Fail - we, as usual, prop up the Terrorist to begin with and give them the tools for Terrorism

War on Poverty? Fail - we do everything we possibly can to make the poor as poor as possible

War on Hate? Fail - we promote fear mongering and hatred of brown people

War on Crime? Fail - we pass Laws that turn ordinary actions into crimes, thus, manufacture crime where none exists

War on People? Win - unfortunately the only War thats being won is the war on the average person, world wide

robert9712000
05-26-2014, 09:13 AM
Maybe i'm understanding things wrong, but i thought all the governmental departments were under their jurisdiction of congress and beholden to their instructions.

kcchiefs6465
05-27-2014, 02:03 AM
Maybe i'm understanding things wrong, but i thought all the governmental departments were under their jurisdiction of congress and beholden to their instructions.
Lol