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AuH20
05-22-2014, 12:40 PM
He better get a lawyer. :D

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24569765/mark-cuban-on-race-and-bigotry-none-of-us-have-complete-pure-thoughts



Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has come under fire for comments he made at Inc.'s GrowCo conference in Nashville on Wednesday. In light of the Donald Sterling saga, Cuban talked about prejudice. He said he had to fight against internalizing stereotypes and that "none of us have complete pure thoughts," via the Sporting News:

“I also try not to be a hypocrite. I know I'm prejudiced. I know I'm bigoted in a lot of different ways,” he said. “I've said this before. If I see a black kid in a hoodie at night on the same side of the street, I'm probably going to walk to other side of the street. If I see a white guy with a shaved head and lots of tattoos, I'm going back to the other side of the street. If I see anybody that looks threatening, and I try not to, but part of me takes into account race and gender and image. I'm prejudiced. Other than for safety issues, I try to always catch my prejudices and be very self-aware.”

Cuban later recounted a story from the 1960s when his uncle served as a superintendent in the Washington, D.C., area. He recalled sitting down with his uncle and being told that everyone was equal, and it was never acceptable to treat people differently based on their creed, race, gender or ethnicity. At the same time, though, it did not mean that certain negative thoughts won't appear from time to time.

juleswin
05-22-2014, 12:48 PM
The video of the speech. I love to see the way anyone can spin this talk as anything other than his honest, harmless reflection on bigotry in society.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQFs462MvXc

Deborah K
05-22-2014, 12:50 PM
It's a thought crime to be politically incorrect.

tod evans
05-22-2014, 01:27 PM
I "hate" all city dwellers regardless of their race, religion or country of origin...

Without city dwellers there wouldn't be 1/4 of the laws or regulations all of us have to deal with..

Not to mention this PC BS.......

nayjevin
05-22-2014, 02:25 PM
Wait, comments about race aren't okay now?

tod evans
05-22-2014, 02:38 PM
Wait, comments about race aren't okay now?

Racist! ;)

TonySutton
05-22-2014, 02:48 PM
There is one race I will never like. It doesn't matter how you sugar coat it.












I hate NASCAR :P

tod evans
05-22-2014, 02:50 PM
There is one race I will never like. It doesn't matter how you sugar coat it.
I hate NASCAR :P

I've never understood the need to turn a hotrod...

Long live nitromethane! :D

PRB
05-22-2014, 02:53 PM
"I've said this before. If I see a black kid in a hoodie at night on the same side of the street, I'm probably going to walk to other side of the street. If I see a white guy with a shaved head and lots of tattoos, I'm going back to the other side of the street."

Role model neighborhood watch

Nolan
05-22-2014, 09:40 PM
I hope Mark Cuban will take on this leftist racism obsession and hand it to them. Or maybe we all should just let the leftists be until they cannibalize themselves with this first-world p.c crap.

HOLLYWOOD
05-22-2014, 10:25 PM
One only has to look at demographics between politicians and their congressional district makeup.

James Madison
05-22-2014, 10:26 PM
I agree with what he said. What's the problem here?

cajuncocoa
05-22-2014, 11:02 PM
The problem is, when he mentioned "hoodie", the usual suspects took it as a slur against the memory of Trayvon Martin. Not kidding at all. I believe Cuban has already apologized to Martin's family so the cave-in has already commenced.

nayjevin
05-22-2014, 11:22 PM
The problem is, when he mentioned "hoodie", the usual suspects took it as a slur against the memory of Trayvon Martin. Not kidding at all. I believe Cuban has already apologized to Martin's family so the cave-in has already commenced.

Oh, yeah, that makes more sense. It's hard to keep up with all the latest hotbuttons, I didn't think of that. I think that apology is deserved, if he did mean it that way he probably wouldn't have apologized.

kahless
05-23-2014, 08:02 AM
If you are going to wear a hoodie like a gangster you risk being treated like one in society.

Sola_Fide
05-23-2014, 08:06 AM
The politically correct mafia will never let him live this down. Off to the re-education camps with this one.

brushfire
05-23-2014, 08:15 AM
"They" are known to occasionally eat their own... No room for adult conversation on this topic.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y-DbBvf7R5Y/TMF9dnhoOvI/AAAAAAAAeWU/Prls2yKeFoU/s1600/1021-Juan-Williams-fox-news_full_600.jpg

JK/SEA
05-23-2014, 08:21 AM
are we distracted?

answer:...yep.

AuH20
05-23-2014, 09:47 AM
Here come the vultures on cue!:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-bill-plaschke-mark-cuban-20140522-column.html


Judging from his comments, that glass house needs to be shattered.

By acknowledging a fear of a “black kid in a hoodie,’’ Cuban is admitting he is scared of many of his own players and fans, as the hoodie is a common piece of wardrobe for young people of all races. He's also buying into the sort of fears that led to the 2012 Trayvon Martin shooting in Florida, an incident that sparked national outrage. In fact, players from the Miami Heat even wore hoodies one day in protest of the fatal shooting of the black teenager.

Just because Cuban says he is trying "not to be hypocritical" does not mean that he can be excused for his ignorance. Simply because he praises this country’s fight against bigotry doesn’t give him a pass to sound like a bigot.

Mark Cuban is not Donald Sterling. He doesn’t have Sterling’s racist past. He is considered one of the league’s smartest and most passionate owners.

But after making those comments, Cuban appears to be lot closer to Sterling than anyone ever imagined, and NBA Commissioner Adam Silver needs to deal with the dangers of that proximity.

Was Silver simply banning Sterling for life, or was he truly trying to weed the racism out of the league’s front offices for life? Was the past month only about Sterling, or also truly about tolerance? We’ll soon find out.

I need to leave the country at this rate, when there are journalists openly calling for a witch-hunt over the most perceived slight.

Danke
05-23-2014, 09:58 AM
I hate Klingons.

oyarde
05-23-2014, 10:02 AM
I hate Klingons.

Cuban only mentioned whites and blacks , so that seems PC to me . No mention of Hispanics , Vikings , Indians, Martians etc

jonhowe
05-23-2014, 10:06 AM
I "hate" all city dwellers regardless of their race, religion or country of origin...

Without city dwellers there wouldn't be 1/4 of the laws or regulations all of us have to deal with..

Not to mention this PC BS.......


And I thought we were friends!

donnay
05-23-2014, 10:14 AM
I hate Klingons.


Especially the Klingons who wear hoodies.

AuH20
05-23-2014, 10:16 AM
Remember this?

http://theracecardproject.com/jesse-jackson-fears-black-youths-racism-2/


Even Jesse Jackson said a few years ago, “There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

And this?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/24/eric-holder-us-still-a-nation-of-cowards-on-race/


In 2009, Holder claimed that “though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial, we have always been and we — I believe continue to be, in too many ways, essentially a nation of cowards.”


So with this in mind, what did Mark Cuban say that was so outrageous? Is Mark Cuban a coward for opening up on his daily thought processes? LOL Understand that the people of our political stripe have been keeping score and we will clearly call out a charade when it appears.

oyarde
05-23-2014, 10:30 AM
Remember this?

http://theracecardproject.com/jesse-jackson-fears-black-youths-racism-2/



And this?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/24/eric-holder-us-still-a-nation-of-cowards-on-race/



So with this in mind, what did Mark Cuban say that was so outrageous? Is Mark Cuban a coward for opening up on his daily thought processes? LOL Understand that the people of our political stripe have been keeping score and we will clearly call out a charade when it appears.
I agree , Holder is a coward .

specsaregood
05-23-2014, 10:31 AM
So with this in mind, what did Mark Cuban say that was so outrageous?

He was a white man (and rich to boot) saying it. Glad I could clear that up for you.

moostraks
05-23-2014, 10:43 AM
I "hate" all city dwellers regardless of their race, religion or country of origin...

Without city dwellers there wouldn't be 1/4 of the laws or regulations all of us have to deal with..

Not to mention this PC BS.......

Aww...I thought you liked me :p I lived in the country and the 'burbs. I found it easier to live in the city where you are lost in the crowd. I also vote against and not for the issues looking to slow the march of destruction.

Ronin Truth
05-23-2014, 12:30 PM
I hate Klingons.

Spacist!

(Reported!)

AuH20
05-23-2014, 01:01 PM
He sounds like one of us. I bet he's in the closet for obvious reasons :):

http://www.inc.com/amy-whyte/if-mark-cuban-ruled-the-world.html


Naturally, Cuban jumped on the question. (He's obviously been thinking about this!) From abolishing patents to reforming the NBA, here's how the world would look if Cuban was King:

Eliminate software patents. "Patent law right now holds us back in every which way shape and form," said Cuban, who added that he was once sued over a film distribution technique his company developed after someone else decided to file a patent for the technique. "In software, there's no place for it."

Change the culture of professional sports. When Cuban purchased the Dallas Mavericks in 2000, he immediately instituted a new rule: "If you mention our win or loss record, you're fired." Cuban made it clear that even though he owned a NBA team, he wasn't in the business of basketball--he was in the business of entertainment. "The one thing you can't control in sports is which games you're going to win and which games you're going to lose," he said. "What I could control was the experience fans have."

Put a $10,000 cap on student loans. The current student debt crisis, Cuban argued, is hurting the economy more than anything else. It's taking away the spending power of college graduates and decreasing overall consumption. He blamed skyrocketing college tuition costs on the availability of student loans. "It's easy to get that loan because the government guarantees it," he said. "And because it's easy for you to take out a loan, it's easy for the colleges to ask for more, because then the potential students just take out bigger loans." The move might put some schools out of business, Cuban admitted, but the universities that survived would come back smarter and more efficient. "Until you fix the student loan bubble and the tuition bubble, we don't have a chance," he said.

Encourage organizational resilience. When discussing the upcoming vote to ban Sterling from the NBA for making racist remarks, Cuban stopped short of indicating how he'd vote. But, overall, he described the ban as a "slippery slope" and admitted that he himself is bigoted in some ways. After he asserted that everyone is prejudiced in some way or another, he argued that it was impossible to keep "stupid" out of an organization, as there was no law against it. "People are going to be stupid and make mistakes," said Cuban. Ok, so this point isn't totally in keeping with the "how Cuban would change the world" rubric, but overhauling people's perceptions would surely be a top priority.

kahless
05-23-2014, 01:13 PM
I hate Klingons.


Especially the Klingons who wear hoodies.

jIH muS SoH! Racists!

If a Klingon wears a hoodie all gangsta like then he increases his risk of being treated like one by society. I am not saying it is right but it is a fact of life.

It is not in anyway racist to cross the street if you see a Klingon was wearing a hoodie like a gangster. I think of it as part of reducing your risk in an urban environment.

What is in fact racist is when a human wears a Klingon hoodie which is no different from the days whites would wear black face.

Worf hoodie lets you pull Klingon ridges over your forehead
http://io9.com/5984853/worf-hoodie-lets-you-pull-klingon-ridges-over-your-forehead

Ronin Truth
05-23-2014, 01:50 PM
Left-Wing Race-Hustling Phonies (http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/left-wing-race-hustling-phonies/)

Thomas DiLorenzo (http://www.lewrockwell.com/author/thomas-dilorenzo/?post_type=lrc-blog)

I refer here to about 99% of the “mainstream media” in the U.S. The latest example of their never-ending race-hustling dishonesty designed to start a race war is an attack on the billionaire entrepreneur Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks NBA team. Speaking at a business conference, Cuban mentioned an example of what economists call “statistical discrimination.” Statistical discrimination is NOT based on any kind of racial or gender prejudice. It is defined as judging strangers based on the general behavior of a group the stranger happens to belong to. What Cuban said was that he is usually cautious whenever walking around at night and coming across either a black teenager in a hoodie or a white teenager with a shaved head and covered with tattoos. He said he would cross the street as a precaution upon spotting either type of person. Predictably, the sons and daughters of Al Sharpton (figuratively speaking), the moral conscience of the American Left, immediately denounced Cuban as a “racist” and demanded an apology. Jesse Jackson said the exact same thing about black teenagers once but of course was forgiven for it.

2:11 pm on May 23, 2014
Email Thomas DiLorenzo (tdilo@aol.com)

The Best of Thomas DiLorenzo (http://www.lewrockwell.com/author/thomas-dilorenzo/?post_type=lrc-blog)


http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/left-wing-race-hustling-phonies/

mac_hine
05-23-2014, 02:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derAT7zR2SU

BTW, I think Cuban might be a 911 truther. He knows what's up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTYDX1Iwn7c

milgram
05-23-2014, 03:17 PM
Lately there have been several apologies every week. It's almost a daily occurrence at this point.

nayjevin
05-23-2014, 11:16 PM
He sounds like one of us. I bet he's in the closet for obvious reasons :):

http://www.inc.com/amy-whyte/if-mark-cuban-ruled-the-world.html

Unfortunately, it's just that anyone with a brain who bothers to google an issue and study it will become 'one of us' on that issue.

oyarde
05-23-2014, 11:22 PM
Lately there have been several apologies every week. It's almost a daily occurrence at this point.

None from me .

fr33
05-23-2014, 11:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TuPtirM.png

TomtheTinker
05-24-2014, 12:33 AM
If you are going to wear a hoodie like a gangster you risk being treated like one in society.

Would if your ears are cold?

Antischism
05-24-2014, 06:42 AM
What if he saw a white guy in a hoodie?

What's wrong with hoodies? The hood is there to wear, not as some superfluous feature of excess material left unused.


I understand what he was trying to say, but he kind of backed himself into a corner with the examples he gave. Would he still be afraid of the bald, tattooed white man if he was wearing a hoodie? The hoodie would cover his bald head and tattoos.



I "hate" all city dwellers regardless of their race, religion or country of origin...

Without city dwellers there wouldn't be 1/4 of the laws or regulations all of us have to deal with..

Not to mention this PC BS.......

So you 'hate' people who may not have a choice in where they're located due to their financial or familial situation? That's... an interesting position to take. It sounds like you've got some unresolved personal issues.

kahless
05-24-2014, 07:19 AM
Would if your ears are cold?

Yes and I wear a hoodie on rainy day or when jogging on a rainy or cold day. If someone however crossed the street when they see me I would not be offended and would realize they were acting out of their own safety.

I would not wear it on a hot sunny day with bodily actions that indicate I am a gang member on the prowl. If I did I would expect I may attract the wrong element or people would avoid me more.

nayjevin
05-24-2014, 09:28 AM
There are things a person can wear that can be expected to produce predictable reactions. That's why they wear them, in some cases - like red contact lenses. But the other person still has a choice. My experience with black people is the vast majority don't care if you're totally awkward about race, but are totally happy if you're clearly not racist. By smiling and not avoiding glances and such.

MelissaWV
05-24-2014, 10:07 AM
If people would bother to listen, it sounds like he's far more afraid of white people. He'd even chance being on the same side of the street with someone he was initially afraid of to avoid some big white dude with tattoos. It sounds like the ones who should be offended are white bald guys with ink?

Spikender
05-24-2014, 10:38 AM
You will be shamed into silence about having an honest conversation about race and diffusing the situation because they do not want that. It would kill the power of statists to use race to solidify their positions of power, therefore they have to stifle the conversation with accusations of "racism" before it even ever begins.

Just happens over and over again and people fall for it hook. line, and sinker every time.

PRB
05-24-2014, 11:19 AM
http://i.imgur.com/TuPtirM.png

Unless if you're black

PRB
05-24-2014, 11:20 AM
If people would bother to listen, it sounds like he's far more afraid of white people. He'd even chance being on the same side of the street with someone he was initially afraid of to avoid some big white dude with tattoos. It sounds like the ones who should be offended are white bald guys with ink?

the fact that a black person only needed to put on a hoodie, vs a white person needed to be shaved or bald and inked, tells you how easier it is for him to fear black people. Or are we going to ask him for better details?