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devil21
05-20-2014, 02:49 PM
Does this mean Wiki has access to Snowden's files now? I'm a little confused by this article.

http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-says-it-will-reveal-redacted-country-2014-5


"We will reveal the name of the censored country whose population is being mass recorded in 72 hours." – WikiLeaks on Twitter

America's National Security Agency (NSA) can "vacuum up and store the actual content of every conversation" in the Bahamas and an unnamed country, the new publication The Intercept reported Monday, based on documents leaked by Edward Snowden.

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Appelbaum, a close friend of Laura Poitras, the other journalist whom Snowden gave a large set of documents, also gave a presentation detailing a classified document listing technology available to the NSA's hacking unit, known as TAO. It is not known how he acquired those documents.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-says-it-will-reveal-redacted-country-2014-5#ixzz32I6jXag5


I hope this means the start of the other 98% of files being released.

mrsat_98
05-20-2014, 03:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q2G-5xfFrA

Suzanimal
05-20-2014, 03:45 PM
This came out yesterday, scary shit...


Data Pirates of the Caribbean: The NSA
Is Recording Every Cell Phone Call in the Bahamas

The National Security Agency is secretly intercepting, recording, and archiving the audio of virtually every cell phone conversation on the island nation of the Bahamas.

According to documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, the surveillance is part of a top-secret system – code-named SOMALGET – that was implemented without the knowledge or consent of the Bahamian government. Instead, the agency appears to have used access legally obtained in cooperation with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration to open a backdoor to the country’s cellular telephone network, enabling it to covertly record and store the “full-take audio” of every mobile call made to, from and within the Bahamas – and to replay those calls for up to a month.

SOMALGET is part of a broader NSA program called MYSTIC, which The Intercept has learned is being used to secretly monitor the telecommunications systems of the Bahamas and several other countries, including Mexico, the Philippines, and Kenya. But while MYSTIC scrapes mobile networks for so-called “metadata” – information that reveals the time, source, and destination of calls – SOMALGET is a cutting-edge tool that enables the NSA to vacuum up and store the actual content of every conversation in an entire country.

All told, the NSA is using MYSTIC to gather personal data on mobile calls placed in countries with a combined population of more than 250 million people. And according to classified documents, the agency is seeking funding to export the sweeping surveillance capability elsewhere.

Keep reading..
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/05/19/data-pirates-caribbean-nsa-recording-every-cell-phone-call-bahamas/

eduardo89
05-20-2014, 04:03 PM
SOMALGET is part of a broader NSA program called MYSTIC, which The Intercept has learned is being used to secretly monitor the telecommunications systems of the Bahamas and several other countries, including Mexico, the Philippines, and Kenya.Ok, now I'm pissed.

DamianTV
05-20-2014, 04:06 PM
Shorter list is which countries are not being mass recorded by the NSA. I think the list only has two entries in it: North Korea, and Gilligans Island. North Korea because they are beyond insanely paranoid and Gilligans Island because its fictional to think that any place is safe from the NSA.

Lucille
05-20-2014, 04:30 PM
That threat implies that WikiLeaks knows the other country — which would be possible only if the rogue publishing organization deduced it from the redaction or has access to the Snowden documents.

The most plausible way for WikiLeaks to have access to a Snowden cache is if Appelbaum, who led the reporting on several Der Spiegel articles based on NSA documents (which may or may not be from Snowden), shared information with his friend and WikiLeaks editor in chief Julian Assange. Applebaum tweeted that The Intercept's redaction was "a mistake."

[...] there are other ways (https://twitter.com/LouiseMensch/status/468701625125994496) WikiLeaks may be able to obtain Snowden documents — but the close association between Appelbaum and the key players involved are significant if they lend credibility to WikiLeaks' threat.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-says-it-will-reveal-redacted-country-2014-5#ixzz32IUVvugU

Please (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu4k5sTzxIw) let wikileaks have it all!

There was an Assange and Greenwald twitter war. Start here:

468451149495148544

Wikileaks > Intercept

helmuth_hubener
05-20-2014, 05:53 PM
Ok, now I'm pissed. It's OK, nobody can understand that 'rriba 'rriba jibber jabber anyway. You should be safe.

2young2vote
05-20-2014, 07:00 PM
Why would revealing this country's name lead to violence? Is it China? Now THAT would be interesting considering what the US has recently been accusing Chinese officials of doing.

MRK
05-21-2014, 03:30 AM
http://chirpstory.com/li/207419

The fifth country was redacted due in part to the involvement of a physically vulnerable, small company in the country:

wikileaks:
@ggreenwald The innocents in this equation are the entire nation of citizens who are being recorded. Everything else is doubtful speculation

ggreenwald:
@ageis @wikileaks No - it's based on particular physical vulnerabilities of the small company involved.

wikileaks:
@ggreenwald @ageis An entire people are being victimised. Small abusive company does not eclipse a nation. At most can be warned pre-pub.

wikileaks:
@GGreenwald @johnjcook We will reveal the name of the censored country whose population is being mass recorded in 72 hours.

helmuth_hubener
05-21-2014, 11:36 AM
It's OK, nobody can understand that 'rriba 'rriba jibber jabber anyway. You should be safe.

I'm just kidding, of course. De hecho, hablo la idioma celestial también (un poco).

Seriously, this is heavy stuff. These countries are close by. Brazil was appalled and infuriated by earlier Snowden revelations (that the NSA was spying on the President's personal communications), Bolivia was humiliated, France was humiliated, Germans are furious, and now this. Mexico. The Bahamas. These countries are close neighbors. They are not going to be happy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tij6XdqtHEU

brushfire
05-21-2014, 11:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q2G-5xfFrA

LOL

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i6/str8busta/NOT-SURE-IF-SRS.jpg

devil21
05-21-2014, 02:00 PM
Switzerland maybe? The Bahamas would be drag-netted for financial information so would make sense that other one would also be a known global financial center. Rand has been holding up a treaty with the Swiss over financial privacy.

MRK
05-21-2014, 02:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tij6XdqtHEU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fosG7tmWTZ8

eduardo89
05-21-2014, 02:15 PM
Switzerland maybe? The Bahamas would be drag-netted for financial information so would make sense that other one would also be a known global financial center. Rand has been holding up a treaty with the Swiss over financial privacy.

"The Bahamas has no income tax, corporate tax, capital gains tax, value-added tax (VAT), or wealth tax. "

Why can't the US be like that?

jllundqu
05-21-2014, 02:25 PM
Unless and until Snowden/Greenwald/Assange/etc release where the proverbial bodies are buried.... this is all theatrics.

If Snowden really did get "the motherload" of the NSA then they should release Benghazi, Syria, Clinton, Assassination, covert/illegal ops, etc etc...

Don't get me wrong. It's good that they are releasing stuff, but has anything changed (other than some pissed off heads of state in europe, etc)? Nothing has changed. The NSA has more power than ever, Obama is insulated from any wrongdoing, and no one seems to give a shit that the whole world is now ADMITTEDLY a surveillance state.

I say bring out the big guns, Assange/Snowden/Greenwald.

devil21
05-22-2014, 04:09 PM
Bahamas gov't responds to spying story.

http://www.bahamas.gov.bs/wps/portal/public/gov/government/news/the%20bahamas%20government%20responds%20to%20spyin g/

ClydeCoulter
05-25-2014, 10:05 AM
Afghanistan

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/wikileaks-reveals-afghanastan-second-country-having-all-phone-calls-monitored-by-nsa-1449682

nbruno322
05-25-2014, 06:45 PM
"The Bahamas has no income tax, corporate tax, capital gains tax, value-added tax (VAT), or wealth tax. "

Why can't the US be like that?

Two words, welfare and warfare.

devil21
05-27-2014, 02:17 AM
Greenwald and Poitras have all of the docs. The pieces are coming together.


What’s more, the billionaire owner of PayPal Corporation has entered into a $250 Million business partnership with two journalists-Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras, a journalist duo who possess the entire cache of evidence provided by Edward Snowden.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?435471-Omidyar%92s-PayPal-Corporation-Said-To-Be-Implicated-in-Withheld-NSA-Documents&highlight=omidyar

DamianTV
05-27-2014, 04:25 AM
USA, Bahamas, Brazil, Afghanistan, oh and EVERYONE else like Republic of Moldova, Narnia, hell even Middle Earth is not safe from the NSA. Why? Because Hobbits and Brown People could be Terrorists! All hail Lord Sauron!