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enhanced_deficit
05-16-2014, 12:24 PM
Is it season for racial slurs? Few days ago a factory worker in NK had made racial insults towards Obama, latest news is out of NH.
Police chief calls President Obama the N-word
5/16/14 11:40 AM EDT
A New Hampshire police commissioner is refusing to apologize for referring to President Barack Obama by a racial slur, despite calls for his resignation, according to reports.
Robert Copeland, 82, confirmed in an email to fellow police commissioners that he used the “N-word” in describing Obama following a complaint submitted in March by a resident of Wolfeboro, N.H. to the town manager, CNN affiliate WMUR reported (http://www.wmur.com/news/wolfeboro-police-commissioner-uses-racial-slur-to-describe-obama/25994118) Friday.
In her complaint, the resident said she overheard Copeland, who she said was talking loudly in a local restaurant, use the racial slur about the president.
“I believe I did use the ‘N’ word in reference to the current occupant of the Whitehouse (sic),” Copeland wrote in his email. “For this, I do not apologize — he meets and exceeds my criteria for such.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/robert-copeland-obama-n-word-new-hampshire-police-commissioner-106761.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/robert-copeland-obama-n-word-new-hampshire-police-commissioner-106761.html#ixzz31u7ViKVC)
Related
North Korea’s racist rant against ‘wicked black monkey’ Obama
By Jonathan Capehart Updated: May 8 at 4:23 pm
As The Post’s Chico Harlan reports, this piece published on May 2 almost escaped notice because it hadn’t been translated into English by the Korean Central News Agency. Thanks to blogger Josh Stanton we know the depth of Pyongyang’s racist hate. An earlier piece translated into English which called Obama a “wicked black monkey” is tame compared to what the untranslated harangue said. Here are some choice descriptions of the president.
“clown”
“dirty fellow”
“does not even have the basic appearances of a human being.”
“He is a crossbreed with unclear blood.”
Obama “still has the figure of monkey while the human race has evolved through millions of years.”
“It would be perfect for Obama to live with a group of monkeys in the world’s largest African natural zoo and lick the bread crumbs thrown by spectators.”
Charming. And this is coming from a nation whose leader reportedly requires men to sport his “I lost a bet” haircut. The White House slammed the comments as “particularly ugly and disrespectful.”
But North Korea’s hatred isn’t only race-based. Oh no. Pyongyang is an equal opportunity bigot. The South Korean President was slurred as an “old prostitute.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/05/08/north-koreas-racist-rant-against-wicked-black-monkey-obama//?print=1
tod evans
05-16-2014, 12:33 PM
So what?
Anti Federalist
05-16-2014, 12:41 PM
So what?
That got a bunch of people to turn out at town hall.
Massive tax increases or police brutality...Meh.
Call Obama a ****** and the whole town is upside down in guilt.
We're fucked...
James Madison
05-16-2014, 12:43 PM
So what?
It's the dreaded forbidden word, unless you're of a specific ancestry...then it's ok, because that's how language works...I guess...
wizardwatson
05-16-2014, 01:03 PM
That got a bunch of people to turn out at town hall.
Massive tax increases or police brutality...Meh.
Call Obama a ****** and the whole town is upside down in guilt.
We're fucked...
Everyone's a hero if it doesn't involve work and it's popular.
Czolgosz
05-16-2014, 01:07 PM
******.
Christian Liberty
05-16-2014, 01:15 PM
To leftist racism is the crime of all crimes. I don't approve of racism of course. But Obama has harmed far more people with his words (orders to military and drone operators, executive orders, etc.) than this police chief has caused with his words. Yet the sheep of America just jump at the bait.
phill4paul
05-16-2014, 01:21 PM
Let Obama invite him to the lawn for a beer or go to N.H. to kick his ass. Sounds like it is between the two of them to work out as it doesn't involve me.
eduardo89
05-16-2014, 02:31 PM
I believe I did use the N word in reference to the current occupant of the Whitehouse (sic), Copeland wrote in his email. For this, I do not apologize he meets and exceeds my criteria for such.
I agree, Obama definitely fits my definition of nagger as well.
http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu229/skullbr/nagger.jpg
Philhelm
05-16-2014, 02:39 PM
“It would be perfect for Obama to live with a group of monkeys in the world’s largest African natural zoo and lick the bread crumbs thrown by spectators.”
I can live with that.
Edit: The way in which people deal with the word "******" is a good example of how easy it is to condition people. It's silly when grown men have the need to say "n-word" like a bunch of children tattling to the teacher, even when using the word in a non-offensive context.
^ Censorship is lame.
Keith and stuff
05-16-2014, 02:47 PM
He is not a policeman or police chief. He is a police commissioner designed to make sure their isn't corruption and so on in the department.
This isn't as bad as the Nashua police commissioner that covered up a drunk duck massacre by a powerful NH state rep. That commissioner had to resign. That state rep. isn't running for reelection because of the incident.
Oh, and this a rich town that wealthy Republican from all over the Northeast play in (and have for over 100 years). For example, Romney has a house in the town.
I'm not sure what this is a national story (it happened somewhere other than the South), but the guy should at least say sorry... for the sake of his family and family name.
Keith and stuff
05-16-2014, 02:55 PM
You can vote on this. Not sure how long the poll will stay up (usually 2-3 days). The poll is in the center.
http://www.unionleader.com/
tod evans
05-16-2014, 02:55 PM
I'm not sure what this is a national story (it happened somewhere other than the South), but the guy should at least say sorry... for the sake of his family and family name.
No he absolutely should not!
Fuck a bunch of oversensitive, politically correct ninnies.
Even suggesting that politically correct speech should be necessary to preserve his family and their name borders on insanity.
What flavor is the koolaid this week?
PaulConventionWV
05-16-2014, 03:09 PM
I tend to agree. The guy is 82 and should live the way he sees fit, regardless of political stigma. He chooses to use real definitions of words instead of applying the inherent stigma and then twisting it around to say something else. There are worse things you could call Obama considering what a joke race-baiting has become.
Keith and stuff
05-16-2014, 03:21 PM
No he absolutely should not!
Fuck a bunch of oversensitive, politically correct ninnies.
Even suggesting that politically correct speech should be necessary to preserve his family and their name borders on insanity.
What flavor is the koolaid this week?
He doesn't seem like the type of guy that should be investigating police corruption.
tod evans
05-16-2014, 03:36 PM
He doesn't seem like the type of guy that should be investigating police corruption.
I wouldn't know..
But, if you're making that assumption of his speech patterns that's ridiculous...
Anti Federalist
05-16-2014, 04:12 PM
He doesn't seem like the type of guy that should be investigating police corruption.
I'm pretty sure I've run across this guy before.
I have to say, I'm not minding watching him squirm.
It was a few years back that myself and some other RP people were at one of the commision meetings, registering our disapproval of what I was to come to learn as the "Circular Force Continuum".
This fellow was of the mindset that cops had every right to beat you to death if you did not immediately comply with their every wish.
Getting a little taste of his own fascist medicine, fuck him.
tod evans
05-16-2014, 04:21 PM
I'm pretty sure I've run across this guy before.
I have to say, I'm not minding watching him squirm.
It was few years back that myself and some other RP people were at one of the commision meetings, registering our disapproval of what I was to come to learn was the "Circular Force Continuum".
This fellow was of the mindset that cops had every right to beat you to death if you did not immediately comply with their every wish.
Getting a little taste of his own fascist medicine, fuck him.
Hell I'll jump on the hang 'em high bandwagon for his CFC beliefs.....
kcchiefs6465
05-16-2014, 06:52 PM
I wouldn't know..
But, if you're making that assumption of his speech patterns that's ridiculous...
I'd say having a propensity for racist remarks could be cause for concern that he is indeed a racist and as such grounds for his removal. After all, a good percentage of the time, blacks are who's being shot by the police. Not that the police would ever be capable of policing the police in the first place. For instance if a black cop shot a white kid, I'd bet my last dollar he'd side, against his probable tendencies, with the cop.
In any case he should be fired. Whatever reason being needed for the legal sake but frankly I'd like to tell the tapeworm to find a real profession. This even ignoring his views on the CFC, which there isn't a cop in America who would disagree with it.
tod evans
05-16-2014, 07:08 PM
I'd say having a propensity for racist remarks could be cause for concern that he is indeed a racist and as such grounds for his removal. .
Suspected "racism" should be grounds to fire only kops?
Or all government employees?
Is improper speech enough to vault from suspect to convict?
But wait.............Is being a racist actually even a crime?
Should this only apply to "white folk" or should blacks, orientals, indians and muslims be subjected to the same suspicious speech convictions?
Sorry man I'm not buying it.
Anti Federalist
05-16-2014, 07:13 PM
I'd say having a propensity for racist remarks could be cause for concern that he is indeed a racist and as such grounds for his removal. After all, a good percentage of the time, blacks are who's being shot by the police. Not that the police would ever be capable of policing the police in the first place. For instance if a black cop shot a white kid, I'd bet my last dollar he'd side, against his probable tendencies, with the cop.
In any case he should be fired. Whatever reason being needed for the legal sake but frankly I'd like to tell the tapeworm to find a real profession. This even ignoring his views on the CFC, which there isn't a cop in America who would disagree with it.
Like most elected positions in NH, it's not a paid position.
Dark_Horse_Rider
05-16-2014, 07:16 PM
To leftist racism is the crime of all crimes. I don't approve of racism of course. But Obama has harmed far more people with his words (orders to military and drone operators, executive orders, etc.) than this police chief has caused with his words. Yet the sheep of America just jump at the bait.
Nicely stated although I would not limit to " the leftist "
enhanced_deficit made the excellent connection of the utter hypocrisy between the boogie Boko girl capture and the whitehouse pretending to care so much all the while ordering the killing innocent kids as S.O.P. ( and much worse )
but just as many who criticize Isreel's foreign policy are often labeled as anti semite . . . this was not a tactic that went unnoticed with the elitist agenda, and very similar sentiment is often attached to those who are critical of the current president of the U.S.
yep racism and kidnapped teenagers to get the public swayed ( to demand intervention, punishment ) and kept in check.
to divide and conquer is not a new technique, but many have no eyes for history
kcchiefs6465
05-16-2014, 07:24 PM
Suspected "racism" should be grounds to fire only kops?
Or all government employees?
Is improper speech enough to vault from suspect to convict?
But wait.............Is being a racist actually even a crime?
Should this only apply to "white folk" or should blacks, orientals, indians and muslims be subjected to the same suspicious speech convictions?
Sorry man I'm not buying it.
Government employees, in general, should not have that 'job' in the first place. I'd say it is particularly troublesome for a police officer to be a racist. You might end up with 10% of a city going to jail, given football numbers. As happened in Tulia.
If a government employee gets fired for having untied shoelaces, I am not particularly sympathetic. Especially when said employee has spent much of their life assaulting and imprisoning people, often of which did not commit any crime.
As far as 'suspect' is concerned I'm rather convinced that the man is indeed a police commissioner. For that time in '93 when he jaywalked?, fire his ass. Whenever there is a cry for a decrease in pay, or layoffs of officers, I'll be there. The reasons for as much being secondary and most certainly not touching on any of the issues I'd like to see touched on.
Considering that absent voluntary donation or other voluntary fundraising methods, the way in which these folks get paid is immoral and a disservice to the individual I'd say, Indian, Chinese, or Hebrew: Fire their asses. Reasons 'real' or illusionary?: Fire their asses.
And no one is talking about 'convicting.' What I'm more suggesting is that I am such an optimist and believer in people that even the lowest, most fed tapeworm, has a means within themselves to do something productive.
tod evans
05-16-2014, 07:28 PM
That fails to address the point of speech rising to the point of sanctions...
If it should then should the sanctions apply equally across all races and ethnic backgrounds?
Anti Federalist
05-16-2014, 07:28 PM
Government employees, in general, should not have that 'job' in the first place. I'd say it is particularly troublesome for a police officer to be a racist. You might end up with 10% of a city going to jail, given football numbers. As happened in Tulia.
If a government employee gets fired for having untied shoelaces, I am not particularly sympathetic. Especially when said employee has spent much of their life assaulting and imprisoning people, often of which did not commit any crime.
As far as 'suspect' is concerned I'm rather convinced that the man is indeed a police commissioner. For that time in '93 when he jaywalked?, fire his ass. Whenever there is a cry for a decrease in pay, or layoffs of officers, I'll be there. The reasons for as much being secondary and most certainly not touching on any of the issues I'd like to see touched on.
Considering that absent voluntary donation or other voluntary fundraising methods, the way in which these folks get paid is immoral and a disservice to the individual I'd say, Indian, Chinese, or Hebrew: Fire their asses. Reasons 'real' or illusionary?: Fire their asses.
And no one is talking about 'convicting.' What I'm more suggesting is that I am such an optimist and believer in people that even the lowest, most fed tapeworm, has a means within themselves to do something productive.
You make some powerful points, pilgrim.
kcchiefs6465
05-16-2014, 07:29 PM
Like most elected positions in NH, it's not a paid position.
Really!? There are such places in America? Well I'll be damned.
I believe he believes himself granted more authority than the average citizen, correct?
Dismiss him of his post.
Anti Federalist
05-16-2014, 07:33 PM
Really!? There are such places in America? Well I'll be damned.
I believe he believes himself granted more authority than the average citizen, correct?
Dismiss him of his post.
I'm quite sure he thinks cops do.
But he cannot be "dimsissed".
He either has to run and lose an election or resign.
I really do have one foot in each camp here.
As much as I'd like to see him squirm, I hate that AmeriKa has become a place where your barroom conversation can be overheard by a politically correct butt-insky and used to ruin your life.
tod evans
05-16-2014, 07:43 PM
When the Mexican kop mentions the "Pinche Wedo" or "Pinche Mayate" is that cause to fire him?
What about his bosses who use the same slang?
When a black kop says "Pinche Mojado" ?
There are way too many slang terms in way too many languages for me to try and address them but the point should be obvious....
kcchiefs6465
05-16-2014, 07:45 PM
I'm quite sure he thinks cops do.
But he cannot be "dimsissed".
He either has to run and lose an election or resign.
I really do have one foot in each camp here.
As much as I'd like to see him squirm, I hate that AmeriKa has become a place where your barroom conversation can be overheard by a politically correct butt-insky and used to ruin your life.
Yeah, people are too sensitive. They were raised that way, I think. Or one too many doses of fluoridated water. "Pussification."
It is just such a rare occasion that a government employee is terminated, especially if they have anything to do with the police, that I celebrate every small win.
I might have to come to NH, though. Non paid elected officials? How utopian! Top of the list for sure. The Sheriff out here 'loses' millions of dollars every time I turn around. And the people are open authoritarians.
liberty2897
05-16-2014, 07:56 PM
"Pussification."
That's what my brother calls it. Seems like a pretty good description to me. What I don't get in these forums is why everybody seems pretty okay with the word ****** being thrown around, but just ask a simple question like: why does 2% of the population in the US control so much of our technology and wealth?... the silence is deafening.
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Oh... nice. I see RPF censors my post now. Can't have the n***ger word thrown around like some Tom Sawyer references...
"The people whom Huck and ****** Jim encounter on the Mississippi are drunkards, murderers, bullies, swindlers, lynchers, thieves, liars, mows, frauds, child abusers, numbskulls, hypocrites, windbags and traders in human flesh. All are white. The one man of honor in this phantasmagoria is '****** Jim,' as Twain called him to emphasize the irony of a society in which the only true gentleman was held beneath contempt."
Yep... that's what I thought. Looks like all the adjectives describing our reps made it through loud and clear though.
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Just to be clear... by 2%, I do mean a particular race.. religion or whatever it is... not sure. Don't want to offend, so I won't name it.
kcchiefs6465
05-16-2014, 08:00 PM
When the Mexican kop mentions the "Pinche Wedo" or "Pinche Mayate" is that cause to fire him?
What about his bosses who use the same slang?
When a black kop says "Pinche Mojado" ?
There are way too many slang terms in way too many languages for me to try and address them but the point should be obvious....
Yes. They should all be fired. Whether misunderstood, misinterpreted, or the reasons behind fabricated, they should all be fired.
If I worded it another way I think we'd come to agreement. They make twenty-two dollars an hour to start, with by and large unlimited overtime, benefits, perks, and ridiculously paid government mandated security gigs. They arrest people for possessing a plant. They testify to imprison someone for multiple years for a tenth of a gram of cocaine. They beat people, harass people, impede folks lives. Especially those who truly cannot afford a ticket. They have quotas, and set speed traps. They violate rights on a consistent basis. They never speak out when one of their ADMITTED 'brothers' in blue does something wrong... even when they murder people so clear and recorded. They never arrest actual criminals when said criminal wears their attire. They milk and bilk the system out of such an incredible amount of money, often being a large contributor to a city's bankruptcy. They act as if they are another class... a better class. They shout and scream, steroidal in nature, pulling guns and shooting things for trivial reasons. They lie. Daily. Their profession is based on lies. If that wasn't bad enough, their lies destroy lives. And if that wasn't bad enough still, often the lives destroyed are people who are just barely getting ahead. They condemn people to a life of poverty and debt, if not prison and subservience ensuring other government whores receive their 'due' of the booty. I could write pages (and have) on the ways they are immoral in nature, criminal in action, and counterproductive to society. I will keep it brief, today.
One stutter they should be fired. Their shoe laces are untied? Fire them. A minute late? Fire them. Fire them. Fire them. Fire them. I don't care if the reason is because the sky is blue. Fire them. I had a bad day? Fire them. My knees hurt for the thug scrum to pull me over and harass me about my window tint? Fire them. If they can't do long division, fire them.
If I were a wealthy man, there'd be billboards on all of the reasons why they should be fired. There would be commercials not even near election time. Hand to God.
Keith and stuff
05-16-2014, 08:22 PM
Like most elected positions in NH, it's not a paid position.
I don't know about this particular case, but at least some police commissioners are appointed, like in Nashua. Most appointed positions in NH aren't paid either ;)
And this isn't for you, but just to make it clear to people, this man is not a policeman. He used to be a lawyer. I'd be really surprised if he was ever a policeman. His job is to make sure the police don't treat blacks worse than whites, among many other similar things. He is supposed to make sure police don't ever do anything wrong, or at least investigate their wrong doings. He is supposed to have an outstanding moral character and be an example for all to follow. Clearly, he is letting some folks down :(
I am sorry that the OP used a factually incorrect title :(
tod evans
05-16-2014, 08:25 PM
I'm all for firing the lot of of 'em just not for speech...
liberty2897
05-16-2014, 08:29 PM
I'm all for firing the lot of of 'em just not for speech...
I'm all for firing the lot of of 'em
Like this:
http://31.media.tumblr.com/90e53b10fe349d447c69223fdab947be/tumblr_mnaksmFEiN1rvvyxxo3_500.jpg
kcchiefs6465
05-16-2014, 08:29 PM
That's what my brother calls it. Seems like a pretty good description to me. What I don't get in these forums is why everybody seems pretty okay with the word ****** being thrown around, but just ask a simple question like: why does 2% of the population in the US control so much of our technology and wealth?... the silence is deafening.
I really don't quite care about the word. I grew up in the city. It was as simple to be heard as 'dude' etc. It didn't have a negative connotation and the circumstances of it being said is what determined the reaction of those it was being said to. For the generations above mine, it is considered racist in principle. But they were bricking each other on the way home from school simply because of which section of town they lived (and race)... though truth be told, the times didn't change that much (except now we have multi-racial groups of kids bricking people for no reason at all..... 'progress'). I somewhat understand the attitudes of the older folks but I still find it ridiculous.
As to the question of why there is silence when asking why the top two percent control so much of 'our' technology and wealth, I'd first like to answer the riddle of why two percent controls what they do (to show that I am not silent on the issue). How did they acquire their wealth? This empirically proven oligarchy quite predictably conglomerated wealth into the hands of those near the spigot. They are fascists in nature. The creation of the Federal Reserve and the implementation of the income tax is what sealed the country's fate. The people grew lazy, fat and fed, while people with deceptive propaganda (which they studied and perfected over decades, I'd add) chipped away more and more. If one session a particular bill was too much, it was crafted and sculpted to pass with the intended provisions to be added later on.
Your question of why people don't speak out against it; I've never really noticed that. There are a few republicans who spout cliches and general Reagan rhetoric and sometimes I doubt if they know what they are talking about. Same as there are a few progressives who speak simply of how little a given person pays in taxes and I often wonder if they would take my money (of what little I am blessed by their graces to retain) if they could.
Then they both agree that I should be taken from to pay for a corrupt, criminal organization that routinely beats, murders, kidnaps, cages people. They all agree on that. Every year. It's like that picture where the gentlemen has a stack of books indicating what he's read, and he sees over a mural of unicorn fantasies. All that is beyond, which only he can see, is death and destruction. Truth be told, it doesn't look good. And largely it is because of this immoral system that has been propped up ritualistically and the advancement of technology. They'll poison this earth before long. Coming from one who doesn't particularly care about the 'crisis' of the Spotted Owl.
Oh... nice. I see RPF censors my post now. Can't have the n***ger word thrown around like some Tom Sawyer references...
Yep... that's what I thought. Looks like all the adjectives describing our reps made it through loud and clear though.
Probably because of election time and the mainstream whores trying to paint Ron Paul as a racist. This site has been quoted, after all.
Keith and stuff
05-16-2014, 08:31 PM
I'm all for firing the lot of of 'em
Like this:
http://31.media.tumblr.com/90e53b10fe349d447c69223fdab947be/tumblr_mnaksmFEiN1rvvyxxo3_500.jpg
This crazy old man is not a policeman. He has no police powers.
Philhelm
05-16-2014, 08:32 PM
Yes. They should all be fired.
Execution would be more just.
tod evans
05-16-2014, 08:37 PM
I'm all for firing the lot of of 'em
Like this:
http://31.media.tumblr.com/90e53b10fe349d447c69223fdab947be/tumblr_mnaksmFEiN1rvvyxxo3_500.jpg
I've got an old zippo....:D
liberty2897
05-16-2014, 08:48 PM
As to the question of why there is silence when asking why the top two percent control so much of 'our' technology and wealth, I'd first like to answer the riddle of why two percent controls what they do (to show that I am not silent on the issue). How did they acquire their wealth?
I probably should have been more descriptive. I am talking about the 2% that is Jewish. I do NOT consider myself anti-semitic. I do not hate Jews. I just want to know why 2% of the US population can control so much of our technology and wealth. They have controlled the Federal reserve for the past 27 years and now who knows how far into the future with a new chairman. Do some searching. I would think that statistically, based on the current control, the Jewish people are:
1) superior race (could be)
2) didn't like what happened during WWII era and somehow managed to turn the tables on everybody else?
3) superior race/religion or whatever it is. I'm not sure. I'm starting to wish I was born Jewish though.
Okay, sorry for the distraction. I'm drinking some beers after not drinking for a while.
also, back on-topic.. I don't really want to set police on fire. ..... or ... no maybe I **
Keith and stuff
05-16-2014, 08:52 PM
Execution would be more just.
The guy is not a policeman. I am not sure why people are spreading that rumor. It is a puzzle. He is to prevent/stop the police from doing anything bad. It important that positions like that exist. They should not be killed.
kcchiefs6465
05-16-2014, 09:22 PM
I probably should have been more descriptive. I am talking about the 2% that is Jewish. I do NOT consider myself anti-semitic. I do not hate Jews. I just want to know why 2% of the US population can control so much of our technology and wealth. They have controlled the Federal reserve for the past 27 years and now who knows how far into the future with a new chairman. Do some searching. I would think that statistically, based on the current control, the Jewish people are:
1) superior race (could be)
2) didn't like what happened during WWII era and somehow managed to turn the tables on everybody else?
3) superior race/religion or whatever it is. I'm not sure. I'm starting to wish I was born Jewish though.
Okay, sorry for the distraction. I'm drinking some beers after not drinking for a while.
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also, back on-topic.. I don't really want to set police on fire. ..... or ... no maybe I **
I wouldn't even know where to begin.
otherone
05-16-2014, 09:34 PM
I wouldn't even know where to begin.
"Ignore" is a good start...
liberty2897
05-16-2014, 09:37 PM
"Ignore" is a good start...
Oooooh, must have hit a nerve in PA on my lonely friday evening. Guess you won't see this.
Anti Federalist
05-16-2014, 09:47 PM
I don't know about this particular case, but at least some police commissioners are appointed, like in Nashua. Most appointed positions in NH aren't paid either ;)
And this isn't for you, but just to make it clear to people, this man is not a policeman. He used to be a lawyer. I'd be really surprised if he was ever a policeman. His job is to make sure the police don't treat blacks worse than whites, among many other similar things. He is supposed to make sure police don't ever do anything wrong, or at least investigate their wrong doings. He is supposed to have an outstanding moral character and be an example for all to follow. Clearly, he is letting some folks down :(
I am sorry that the OP used a factually incorrect title :(
The Wolfeboro three man commission is elected.
There was a "freedom folk" on the commission for a while but he stopped running.
Anti Federalist
05-16-2014, 09:49 PM
This crazy old man is not a policeman. He has no police powers.
Quite right, he is supposed to be there to "police the police".
The commission is mostly a rubber stamp though, anything the heroes in blue want.
kcchiefs6465
05-16-2014, 09:57 PM
Quite right, he is supposed to be there to "police the police".
The commission is mostly a rubber stamp though, anything the heroes in blue want.
Is it different absent being a non-paid position than the average commissioner job in other locales? I don't recall ever hearing one speak out about the injustices in Baltimore, Philadelphia, etc.
If not, the only time anyone is held accountable is when enough of the public becomes aware and incensed at a growing trend of injustice and police violence/corruption. Even then though the officer is often simply removed, forgotten about with the next criminal act said PD commits, and is rehired in a small town in rural America. It seems to me that not only are the police commissioners derelict in their duties, and this is the case in many locales, they are often complicit.
They deserve to be tried for their crimes and face the same consequences as everyone else. Though more importantly they shouldn't be compensated at the expense of everyone else (though in this case my argument there is apparently moot). If I am not mistaken, many other commissioners are making $100,000 plus.
Perhaps a confusion of terms?
ChristianAnarchist
05-16-2014, 10:01 PM
You can vote on this. Not sure how long the poll will stay up (usually 2-3 days). The poll is in the center.
http://www.unionleader.com/
Yes
49%
No
51%
Total Votes: 720
ChristianAnarchist
05-16-2014, 10:06 PM
Personally I'm tired of the BS restrictions on free speech. If I want to say ****** I will and you can call me racist for it. Hell the root of the word is simply Latin for "black". Isn't that what we are supposed to call those of the darker skin? Now apparently we can't even use the word "negro" which again comes from the same root. What about "The United Negro College Fund"? Do they have to change their name now too?? I don't even remember when I use the word "******" to refer to someone who's black (but I guarantee in my 62 years I've used it so now you can line me up to be hanged I guess) but this crazy fear of a word is anti-liberty. When we were young if you said something that might offend someone you ran the risk of getting a black eye. I think that's the way it should be instead of the nanny state putting you in jail for every little thing that makes someone upset...
Edit: OMG! In the time it took me to write the above, all the dreaded words have been added to the black list here on the RonPaulForums!! I can't believe how deep the double-speak has gotten in this country. I wonder if they are going to eliminate the word "cracker" too?? I hear that one a lot and it's every bit as racist as "nagger" (I can say "nagger", can't I?)
Anti Federalist
05-16-2014, 10:09 PM
Perhaps a confusion of terms?
That is exactly what is happening here, and why the MSM keeps calling him a police chief.
In many big cities, the "police commissioner" is the chief of police.
This man is not the chief of police.
He does not hold a title of "officer", nor is he paid, thus cannot be "fired".
He is a member of the three person elected board called the "police commission".
Their job is to police the police, hire, fire, approve or disapprove budgets and so on.
They have no police power of arrest.
Antischism
05-17-2014, 01:08 AM
Personally I'm tired of the BS restrictions on free speech. If I want to say ****** I will and you can call me racist for it. Hell the root of the word is simply Latin for "black". Isn't that what we are supposed to call those of the darker skin? Now apparently we can't even use the word "negro" which again comes from the same root. What about "The United Negro College Fund"? Do they have to change their name now too?? I don't even remember when I use the word "******" to refer to someone who's black (but I guarantee in my 62 years I've used it so now you can line me up to be hanged I guess) but this crazy fear of a word is anti-liberty. When we were young if you said something that might offend someone you ran the risk of getting a black eye. I think that's the way it should be instead of the nanny state putting you in jail for every little thing that makes someone upset...
Edit: OMG! In the time it took me to write the above, all the dreaded words have been added to the black list here on the RonPaulForums!! I can't believe how deep the double-speak has gotten in this country. I wonder if they are going to eliminate the word "cracker" too?? I hear that one a lot and it's every bit as racist as "nagger" (I can say "nagger", can't I?)
If you think "n!gger" and "cracker" were created equally, you have a lot to learn (no one is stating neither are hateful, but if you think 'cracker' has the same history as 'n!gger' you're being ignorant to history). Also, it wasn't "negro" that he said, it was "n!gger." He's entitled to say it, but he shouldn't be surprised when people don't take kindly to his backwards views. People want free speech without the consequences of saying really stupid shit in public. If you're going to be ignorant, keep it at home. Personally, I'm glad these people out themselves. The more we know about those who hold positions of power, the better.
donnay
05-17-2014, 08:48 AM
That is exactly what is happening here, and why the MSM keeps calling him a police chief.
In many big cities, the "police commissioner" is the chief of police.
This man is not the chief of police.
He does not hold a title of "officer", nor is he paid, thus cannot be "fired".
He is a member of the three person elected board called the "police commission".
Their job is to police the police, hire, fire, approve or disapprove budgets and so on.
They have no police power of arrest.
The story sounds better if they sensationalize it and say, 'Police Chief.'
Wolfeboro inundated with calls for police commissioner to resign over use of N-word
WOLFEBORO — The Wolfeboro Police Department’s dispatchers and the town manager’s office have fielded hundreds of phone calls and emails from as far as Alaska and Canada, reacting to reports of a police commissioner’s racist comment overheard in a restaurant.
Many of those callers, according to Wolfeboro officials, do not understand that the police commission is a separate, elected board and not made up of sworn police officers.
To clarify any murkiness, Wolfeboro Police Chief Stuart Chase held a press conference Friday afternoon, the day after hundreds of people turned out to protest Commissioner Bob Copeland’s racial slur brought to light by local resident Jane O’Toole, who complained to town officials.
Copeland was overhead at a restaurant and has acknowledged calling President Obama a “f...... n.....”, but has refused to apologize or resign.
Chase said the police and town’s phone and email inboxes have been inundated with comments responding to Copeland’s remarks.
“The general tenor of the calls or electronic messages is one of shock, anger and disbelief — a sentiment that we as police officers and public servants understand. However, many callers have responded with vial, obscene and threatening comments which are misdirected and inappropriate as those purported comments made by an elected police commissioner some weeks ago.
“For the record, clarification is needed,” said Chase. “The Wolfeboro Police Commission is a three-person board whose duties and responsibilities are defined by New Hampshire (laws). The commissioners are elected officials who serve three-year terms. They hire, fire, establish compensation and promulgate the rules and regulations of the police department. They are not officers or sworn employees,” he said, adding that many callers assume the commissioners are police officers.
Chase said Copeland’s comments do not represent the views or opinions of the Wolfeboro Police Department, Wolfeboro Central Dispatch, or other members of the Wolfeboro Police Commission. If a police officer was overheard making a similar comment, it would be an “actionable” offense for which that officer could be placed on suspension.
“This agency is comprised of trained and educated personnel, indicative of the finest tradition of professional policing and representing altruism in its finest sense,” said Chase.
Continued... (http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140516/NEWS06/140519271)
ChristianAnarchist
05-17-2014, 08:57 AM
I don't even know if the following link will post here because it has the dreaded "N" word in it but here goes...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******
Nope, it didn't post but you can fill in the asterisks and get the link to the wikipedia article on the word. It's roots are legitimate and only the fact that people in the 20th century for the most part started to us it in a disparaging way (much like cracker today - and yes, they are not quite on par but pretty close if you check the usage). I hardly ever hear any white people using the word ****** but I hear cracker all the time (used in a negative way). I just find it amazing that in a this place called USA where we supposedly have "free speech" we have to say "n-word" instead of the word because it's politically incorrect. I call BS!
Antischism
05-17-2014, 09:36 AM
I don't even know if the following link will post here because it has the dreaded "N" word in it but here goes...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******
Nope, it didn't post but you can fill in the asterisks and get the link to the wikipedia article on the word. It's roots are legitimate and only the fact that people in the 20th century for the most part started to us it in a disparaging way (much like cracker today - and yes, they are not quite on par but pretty close if you check the usage). I hardly ever hear any white people using the word ****** but I hear cracker all the time (used in a negative way). I just find it amazing that in a this place called USA where we supposedly have "free speech" we have to say "n-word" instead of the word because it's politically incorrect. I call BS!
No one's stopping anyone from saying it; you're free to say anything you want. However, free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences of said speech (especially where employment is involved). If you're a teacher in elementary school for example, you're free to say that you find very young children attractive, but don't be surprised when you're fired for it. In any case, why would you even want to call people "n!gger" when there are other words you can use to show anger? I can only assume a racist would want to attack a person of color using that word.
tod evans
05-17-2014, 09:40 AM
I can only assume a racist would want to attack a person of color using that word.
Ya' know what they say about assumptions....
That's damned hilarious. NK speaks its mind and the American liberal pissywinks have a stroke.
Hilarious, I tell you...
Spikender
05-17-2014, 09:50 AM
Of course the guy is getting hounded for using a racist slur. He should.
But I wish these same people would hound their police departments night and day when they beat and kill homeless people, murder dogs en masse, shoot disabled kids who are pinned down, rape wives and daughters, plant evidence, beat and kill minorities, steal property, shoot kids holding Wiimotes, bust into people's homes in the middle of the night and kill them, arrest and drag people screaming away to a police car for jaywalking, make up stories, like on the stand, withhold evidence, destroy cell phones that are taping, accost innocent people who are practicing their second amendment right to bear arms, arrest people for minor drug offenses, making threats against people, pointing their guns at people for no reason, creating free speech zones, running illegal police check points, stopping and frisking minorities, and doing every single other goddamn thing that these very same people don't say a fucking thing about.
Wake up people. Racism, sexism, and homophobia should not be the only things that trigger your rage. How about murder, rape, theft, and corruption? Can we get some outrage over that?
enhanced_deficit
05-17-2014, 09:53 AM
That got a bunch of people to turn out at town hall.
Massive tax increases or police brutality...Meh.
Call Obama a **** and the whole town is upside down in guilt.
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Good observation.
All these people's calls for dismissal of a man who displayed a slice of America of past decades will be credible if same people also called for dismissal of disgraced (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?433586-Majority-of-Americans-now-believe-Obama-is-quot-dishonest-and-untrustworthy) SWC droneking (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?431958-Girl-who-survived-Obama-drone-attack-is-younger-than-his-daughter) when they heard that drone attacks ordered by him were killing innocent children of other races day after day in recent years.
As our tax dollars are paying first for droneking's job and maybe/maybe-not for this 82 year old officer of a tiny town, it would behoove for all to first make time to call for dismissal of the tool of racist lobbies who profit from and insitigate mass bloodsheds of people of other races around the world and then call for dismissal for this old guy over his racial slur that offended some people rightfully. Actions speak louder than words.
Now a question for all the people who have taken initiative here to call for dismissal of this dude from old America.
Who in your view is a more immoral/suspected of bigger crimes against humanity/more worthy of dismissal:
- SWC droneking plant of racist neocon lobbies whose policies affect people all across America/world
- this old dude from a small town who used a racial slur
If you today called for second guy's dismissal, have you also called for impeachment of first guy in the past (impeachment poll link (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?417115-Would-you-support-Obama-impeachment)) ?
If yes, carry on. If not, your outrage is without much merit.
Proportional outrage, people.
Of course the guy is getting hounded for using a racist slur. He should.
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Wake up people. Racism, sexism, and homophobia should not be the only things that trigger your rage. How about murder, rape, theft, and corruption? Can we get some outrage over that?
Well said.
+rep
tod evans
05-17-2014, 09:53 AM
Wake up people. Racism, sexism, and homophobia should not be the only things that trigger your rage. How about murder, rape, theft, and corruption? Can we get some outrage over that?
Comrade citizen your message hasn't been approved by the ministry of truth....
Please wait for the reprogramming drone...
Anti Federalist
05-17-2014, 11:52 AM
And more than anything else, that is what frustrates me the most.
Tyranny is just fine with Idiot AmeriKa, just so long as the cop says "sir" instead of "******" as he beats your ass to death.
Of course the guy is getting hounded for using a racist slur. He should.
But I wish these same people would hound their police departments night and day when they beat and kill homeless people, murder dogs en masse, shoot disabled kids who are pinned down, rape wives and daughters, plant evidence, beat and kill minorities, steal property, shoot kids holding Wiimotes, bust into people's homes in the middle of the night and kill them, arrest and drag people screaming away to a police car for jaywalking, make up stories, like on the stand, withhold evidence, destroy cell phones that are taping, accost innocent people who are practicing their second amendment right to bear arms, arrest people for minor drug offenses, making threats against people, pointing their guns at people for no reason, creating free speech zones, running illegal police check points, stopping and frisking minorities, and doing every single other goddamn thing that these very same people don't say a fucking thing about.
Wake up people. Racism, sexism, and homophobia should not be the only things that trigger your rage. How about murder, rape, theft, and corruption? Can we get some outrage over that?
enhanced_deficit
05-18-2014, 09:28 AM
To leftist racism is the crime of all crimes.
I assume you referred to commie/neoconnie ideologies that originate from the left.
donnay
05-19-2014, 05:29 PM
Update:
NH town police commissioner resigns in wake of Obama slur
Published May 19, 2014
Associated Press
A New Hampshire town police commissioner has resigned after he admitted using a racial slur to describe President Obama, a town official said Monday.
Board of Selectmen Chair Linda Murray said Robert Copeland, 82, resigned Sunday night from the Wolfeboro post to which he was re-elected in March, putting to rest a controversy that drew national attention and sparked impassioned debate in this resort town of 6,300 on the shore of Lake Winnipesaukee.
"The town is pleased," Murray said Monday. "This gives us the opportunity to move on. We are a very accepting community that really takes care of each other."
Copeland has not returned several calls seeking comment.
At a meeting last week, Copeland defiantly sat with his arms folded as more than 100 residents pushed for his ouster and tore into his comments, saying he didn't speak the town or its people.
Copeland admitted using the slur, preceded by an obscenity, while he was at a restaurant in March. A resident, Jane O'Toole, overheard him and complained to town officials when she learned that Copeland was a police commissioner.
"I believe I did use the `N' word in reference to the current occupant of the Whitehouse," Copeland said in the April email sent to the two other commissioners and forwarded to O'Toole. "For this, I do not apologize -- he meets and exceeds my criteria for such."
A handful of people at the meeting spoke on behalf of Copeland, saying he had a right to free speech. But the louder message came from those who wanted him out.
"Comments like these, especially coming from a public official, are not only inexcusable but also terribly, unfortunately, reflects poorly on our town," O'Toole said at the meeting.
Mitt Romney, the former GOP presidential nominee and the former Massachusetts governor, owns a home in the town and called for Copeland's resignation, saying "the vile epithet used and confirmed by the commissioner has no place in our community."
About 20 black people live year-round in Wolfeboro, in the scenic Lakes Region of New Hampshire, a state that's 94 percent white and 1 percent black. None of the town police department's 12 full-time officers is black or a member of another minority.
Police Chief Stuart Chase said Copeland's slur was "not indicative of the posture of this department. We treat everyone with dignity and respect."
Town officials also said they were appalled by Copeland's comments but said they were powerless to remove an elected official.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/19/nh-police-commissioner-resigns-in-wake-obama-slur/
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