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jct74
05-13-2014, 12:26 AM
Greenwald Bashes ‘Neocon’ Hillary Clinton: ‘She’s a F*cking Hawk’

by Matt Wilstein | 2:31 pm, May 12th, 2014

Glenn Greenwald’s new book, No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the U.S. Surveillance State, is hitting “stands” this Tuesday, which helps explain why he’s even more ever-present than usual across the media landscape today. He stopped by the Today show Monday morning for a somewhat contentious chat with Matt Lauer and GQ released an extended interview with him online that will appear in the June issue of the magazine.

The Q&A session covers a large swath of topics, from his relationship with Edward Snowden (they still talk almost every day) to the possibility of a James Bond-like movie of his NSA leak story (“I was actually a little worried about that, because James Bond is stupid.”) But one of Greenwald’s most impassioned answers comes after a question about all the “early presidential jockeying” for 2016:


“Hillary is banal, corrupted, drained of vibrancy and passion. I mean, she’s been around forever, the Clinton circle. She’s a fucking hawk and like a neocon, practically. She’s surrounded by all these sleazy money types who are just corrupting everything everywhere. But she’s going to be the first female president, and women in America are going to be completely invested in her candidacy. Opposition to her is going to be depicted as misogynistic, like opposition to Obama has been depicted as racist. It’s going to be this completely symbolic messaging that’s going to overshadow the fact that she’ll do nothing but continue everything in pursuit of her own power. They’ll probably have a gay person after Hillary who’s just going to do the same thing.

I hope this happens so badly, because I think it’ll be so instructive in that regard. It’ll prove the point. Americans love to mock the idea of monarchy, and yet we have our own de facto monarchy. I think what these leaks did is, they demonstrated that there really is this government that just is the kind of permanent government that doesn’t get affected by election choices and that isn’t in any way accountable to any sort of democratic transparency and just creates its own world off on its own.”

Greenwald did not tell the magazine if there is a presidential candidate he would be supporting instead, but it seems pretty safe to say he will not be voting for Clinton if she ends up getting the Democratic nomination.

Read the full interview at gq.com. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?451770-Glenn-Greenwald-The-Man-Who-Knows-Too-Much-he-promises-the-biggest-bombs-are-still-to-come&highlight=greenwald)

http://www.mediaite.com/online/greenwald-bashes-neocon-hillary-clinton-shes-a-fcking-hawk/

limequat
05-13-2014, 06:21 AM
Every word that comes out of Greenwald's mouth makes me love him more.

eduardo89
05-13-2014, 06:38 AM
Every word that comes out of Greenwald's mouth makes me love him more.

Ghey.

limequat
05-13-2014, 06:39 AM
Ghey.

You don't say...

TonySutton
05-13-2014, 06:39 AM
I was wondering what wikipedia had to say about Glenn's political views. While reading the article I found this tidbit of info;


In October 2013, Greenwald announced that he was partnering with eBay founder Pierre Omidyar on a new independent news venture named First Look Media.[94][95] Omidyar has said that he was committing an initial $250m to the venture. Omidyar told Rosen the decision was fuelled by his “rising concern about press freedoms in the United States and around the world”. Greenwald along with his colleagues Laura Poitras and Jeremy Scahill were initially working on creating a place online to support independent journalism, when they were approached by Omidyar who was looking to start his own media organization. The new venture will be a for-profit one (rather than a non-profit charity) and it will be funded by Omidyar personally instead of through the Omidyar Network.

https://firstlook.org/

This should be worth keeping an eye on to see how it turns out.

Lucille
05-13-2014, 08:11 AM
Yep, it's the vagina's turn, and then it will be a homosexual, and then probably a Hispanic, because that is how Boobus elects presidents now.

His prediction that Lady MacDeath will win in '16 tells me that exactly nothing will change because of these disclosures. Depressing.

limequat
05-13-2014, 08:24 AM
Yep, it's the vagina's turn, and then it will be a homosexual, and then probably a Hispanic, because that is how Boobus elects presidents now.

His prediction that Lady MacDeath will win in '16 tells me that exactly nothing will change because of these disclosures. Depressing.

Greenwald lives in Brazil now. He's not as vested as we are.

tod evans
05-13-2014, 08:29 AM
Yep, it's the vagina's turn, and then it will be a homosexual, and then probably a Hispanic, because that is how Boobus elects presidents now.

His prediction that Lady MacDeath will win in '16 tells me that exactly nothing will change because of these disclosures. Depressing.

Good God that's a scary mental picture, dried, shriveled and untended for years...:eek:

muh_roads
05-13-2014, 10:06 AM
Opposition to her is going to be depicted as misogynistic, like opposition to Obama has been depicted as racist. It’s going to be this completely symbolic messaging that’s going to overshadow the fact that she’ll do nothing but continue everything in pursuit of her own power. They’ll probably have a gay person after Hillary who’s just going to do the same thing.

Place your bets on the gay guy for 2024...

Lindsey Graham? (probably not attractive enough)
Jeb Bush's son? (comes out of the closet later, or pretends to when the time is right)

enhanced_deficit
05-13-2014, 10:11 AM
She is not just "hawk", she is an SWC along with rest of the neocon cabal.

AuH20
05-13-2014, 10:14 AM
She is not just "hawk", she is an SWC along with rest of the neocon cabal.

Unfortunately, it goes far deeper than just a neocon faction.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfpgl6NqF0I

No1butPaul
05-13-2014, 11:03 AM
This man gives me hope we will not have the likes of Hillary Clinton in the oval office.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i4tuuy1jsw

Brian4Liberty
05-13-2014, 12:12 PM
She’s a fucking hawk and like a neocon, practically.

Greenwald's actual quote is more nuanced and accurate than the Mediaite headline (and thus the thread title).

Clinton is more of a Leninist than a Trotskyite, but the line between a global establishment totalitarian progressive socialist and a neoconservative (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?450257-Neoconservatives-The-List) is certainly a fine one.


There's so much overlap, isn't there? It goes without saying that RINOs (GOP neoconservatives) and Democrats take a lot of the same positions, and even more often, the same actions. And then there is also a lot of overlap of with what could be called "the establishment", the Plutocracy or the Oligarchy, which knows no Democrat or GOP Party boundaries.

Part of it may be the shared history among some of them, being intellectual descendents of one kind or another of Marx. The Democrats and other socialists didn't end up with the same level of animosity towards Russia that the neoconservatives (many early ones being former followers of Leon Trotsky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky)) developed. Trotsky was assassinated by Stalin, so Trotsky's followers were particularly mad at Stalin and Russia.

That's all ancient history at this point, and mostly important to the hardcore, true neoconservatives (the think-tank types like Bill Kristol).

Suffice it to say that Obama and Hillary are modern, global socialists. They love big, powerful, central government (even a bit more than neoconservatives), and they also love meddling and manipulating other nations (perhaps with slightly less venom and vigor than neoconservatives). In the end, the actions are nearly identical, with minor variations in focus and justifications. Obama and Hillary have no problems wasting money on killing people and causing mayhem around the globe. And they are more than willing to defer to international law and standards instead of the Constitution. Perhaps they would be best categorized as "global, iron-fisted, socialist Utopians". Orwell's 1984 was a model, not a warning to them.

Philhelm
05-13-2014, 12:24 PM
and then it will be a homosexual

Wait...doesn't Obama already cover that one?

tod evans
05-13-2014, 12:28 PM
Wiat...doesn't Obama already cover that one?

Isn't he a metrosexual?

Oh-hell, nevermind I get so damn confused with all this who screws whom which way....:o

Lucille
05-13-2014, 01:24 PM
Wait...doesn't Obama already cover that one?

I assume he's bi, since he fucks us all! I suppose if Hillary finally comes out, she'll kill two birds.

Philhelm
05-13-2014, 01:25 PM
I assume he's bi, since he fucks us all! I suppose if Hillary finally comes out, she'll kill two birds.

I meant literally. I seem to recall someone had claimed that he used to pleasure Obama in exchange for drugs, or something like that.

francisco
05-13-2014, 01:50 PM
This man gives me hope we will not have the likes of Hillary Clinton in the oval office.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i4tuuy1jsw

That is one powerful presentation. Anyone who hasn't watched this video: please do.

HOLLYWOOD
05-13-2014, 02:52 PM
COINTELPRO is always running in politics... because, Americans are impressionable and the dumbest box of rocks on planet earth.

Glen Greenwald book:
But she’s going to be the first female president, and women in America are going to be completely invested in her candidacy. Opposition to her is going to be depicted as misogynistic, like opposition to Obama has been depicted as racist.

Let digress to 2008


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsocCWiLh3s

Working Poor
05-13-2014, 04:40 PM
I assume he's bi, since he fucks us all! .

LOL

UWDude
05-14-2014, 01:58 AM
Place your bets on the gay guy for 2024...

Lindsey Graham? (probably not attractive enough)
Jeb Bush's son? (comes out of the closet later, or pretends to when the time is right)

will Clay Aiken be old enough yet? His primary challenger just died yesterday.

unknown
05-14-2014, 05:10 AM
Ghey.

You're BOTH right.