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Peace Piper
05-12-2014, 02:39 PM
The Man Who Knows Too Much


He works at the white-hot center of the media universe as the most reliable source for NSA surveillance scoops. He talks to Edward Snowden most days and has full access to the complete archive. And while Glenn Greenwald has spent the past year publishing revelations from arguably the largest cache of breached secrets in American-intelligence history, he promises the biggest bombs are still to come

Michael Paterniti gq.com May 2014

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Glenn Greenwald is trying to lose fifteen pounds. "Um, it's been a little crazy these past nine months," he says. "And I will eat French fries or potato chips if they're in front of me." On his porch, perched on a jungle mountaintop in Rio, the morning is fresh. Greenwald, in board shorts and a collared short-sleeve shirt, has done his daily hour's worth of yoga and attached himself to one of his five laptops as his dozen dogs yap and wag to begin the day's circus in his monkey-and-macaw paradise.

To put it simply, Greenwald has had one hell of a dizzying run. The Bourne plotline is familiar now: In late 2012, a shady contact calling himself Cincinnatus reached out via e-mail with the urgent desire to reveal some top-secret documents. As a blogger, author, and relentless commentator on all things related to the NSA, Greenwald had been here before. He figured it was a setup, or nut job, and disregarded the message. The source then contacted Greenwald's friend Laura Poitras, an Academy Award-nominated documentary filmmaker, and sent along a sample of encrypted documents. Poitras got in touch with Greenwald immediately: Not only did this seem like a potential jackpot, she said, but Cincinnatus wouldn't go ahead until Greenwald had been looped in.

Soon, per the source's instructions, they were on a plane to Hong Kong. Greenwald and Poitras did exactly as they were told, showing up at the Mira hotel at 10:20 a.m. on June 3, in front of a giant plastic alligator, looking for a man holding a Rubik's Cube. "I thought he would be a 60-year-old senior NSA guy," says Greenwald. And then here's this pale, stringbeany kid with glasses, "looking all of twentysomething." This, of course, was the 29-year-old NSA contractor Edward Snowden. Once they retired to his hotel room, he turned over an estimated tens of thousands of documents, the vast majority of them classified "Top Secret," comprising arguably the biggest leak of classified material in U.S. history. After days of intensive work with Greenwald and Poitras, Snowden fled—just minutes ahead of the press—only to reappear in Moscow... SNIP MORE>

full 6 pages: http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201406/glenn-greenwald-edward-snowden-no-place-to-hide

belian78
05-12-2014, 02:44 PM
It's been how long now that 'the biggest bombshells are yet to be released'? Out with it already.

brushfire
05-12-2014, 03:12 PM
I'm sure "they" have a cup of polonium tea with his name on it. In fact, if the extent at which the US is willing to go towards data collection is any indicator, I'm sure there's probably some creative and hard to detect, delayed killing technique at their disposal. Maybe that's one of the bombshells?

Is he trying to impact elections? What's the holdup?

roho76
05-12-2014, 03:14 PM
It's been how long now that 'the biggest bombshells are yet to be released'? Out with it already.

I know, right? Let's bring this mother to it's knees. Let's get on with it.

devil21
05-12-2014, 03:51 PM
Only 98% left to release.

Lucille
05-13-2014, 10:20 AM
It's been how long now that 'the biggest bombshells are yet to be released'? Out with it already.


I know, right? Let's bring this mother to it's knees. Let's get on with it.

From his GQ interview:


I think we will end the big stories in about three months or so [June or July 2014]. I like to think of it as a fireworks show: You want to save your best for last. There’s a story that from the beginning I thought would be our biggest, and I’m saving that. The last one is the one where the sky is all covered in spectacular multicolored hues. This will be the finale, a big missing piece.

And he predicts Hillary Clinton will win in 2016 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-12/glenn-greenwald-2016-elections-%E2%80%93-theyll-probably-have-gay-person-after-hillary), which means these disclosures won't change much at all and he knows it.


Only 98% left to release.

It's really a shame Snowden didn't go to wikileaks (http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2013/06/in-praise-of-mess-chaos-and-panic.html) instead.


I emphatically called for a TOTAL DUMP of ALL the Snowden documents (http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2014/04/call-me-irresponsible-please.html). I went much farther: I imagined a dozen, or a hundred, Snowdens appearing, each laden with a huge trove of documents -- ALL of which are DUMPED on the internet. With this opportunity for additional explanation, I repeat that call. I reiterate and amplify my argument not primarily in connection with the Snowden documents -- that ship departed on its ill-fated voyage long ago, and will eventually find its resting place in the unreachable depths of the silent ocean -- but with a hopeful eye cast in the direction of future whistleblowers.


If you wish to challenge authority in any serious manner, you must be prepared to provoke an unholy, chaotic, extremely messy scene, one punctuated with howls of outrage by those in power, where everyone is mortified, humiliated and riven with panic -- including you. Anything short of that is merely a very small speed bump on power's journey to ever-increasing destruction and death.


The manner of disclosure adopted by Lord Greenwald & Friends, a model of a polite, rules-abiding challenge to authority, has stopped exactly nothing. To the contrary, the primary effect of the disclosures has been to normalize increasingly pervasive, all-encompassing surveillance, and even to make it "legal."

This has been really hard for me to face, but I finally have.

HOLLYWOOD
05-13-2014, 10:44 AM
Here's the latest, Glen Greenwald was on Stephen Colbert last night... 4-8 weeks to the release of the huge 'NSA bombshell' on DOMESTIC spying.

http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/episodes/a0uj3o/may-12--2014---glenn-greenwald

Glen Greenwald PART 1: http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/2j80wh/glenn-greenwald-pt--1

Glen Greenwald PART 2: http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/31s76v/glenn-greenwald-pt--2

http://kwout.com/cutout/h/dt/ie/hrw_bor.jpg

Glenn Greenwald Pt. 1 - The Colbert Report - Video Clip | Comedy Central (http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/2j80wh/glenn-greenwald-pt--1)

Peace Piper
05-13-2014, 02:10 PM
Everyone that thinks they can do a better job than Greenwald should get up off their butts and DO IT.

No one besides Glenn and maybe Snowden knows why he is revealing things the way he is.

He could go off to an island and sip margaritas for the rest of his life and he'd have still done more than any of his complainers have ever done to expose the lies and corruption of TPTB.

belian78
05-13-2014, 03:17 PM
Everyone that thinks they can do a better job than Greenwald should get up off their butts and DO IT.

No one besides Glenn and maybe Snowden knows why he is revealing things the way he is.

He could go off to an island and sip margaritas for the rest of his life and he'd have still done more than any of his complainers have ever done to expose the lies and corruption of TPTB.
Are you related to Glenn or something? Iron out your panties, some of us are just a bit done 'waiting with baited breath', especially since what's been released so far are things that by and large were already well documented. Not to mention that it's been so long now that to Boobus, it might as well have been 10 years ago.

Peace Piper
05-13-2014, 04:28 PM
Are you related to Glenn or something? Iron out your panties,

Piss off. While you were typing your insults others are actually doing something.


some of us are just a bit done 'waiting with baited breath', especially since what's been released so far are things that by and large were already well documented. Not to mention that it's been so long now that to Boobus, it might as well have been 10 years ago.

Americans are some of the most spoiled, arrogant, decadent, lazy, gullible, hypocritical and disgusting people the world has ever seen. Caligula would blush.

Lucille
05-14-2014, 02:55 PM
I read the first chapter and got the impression he wrote it with a movie in mind.

Sony Pictures Buys Film Rights to Book on Snowden
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/15/business/media/sony-pictures-buys-film-rights-to-book-on-snowden.html


Mr. Greenwald’s book, whose rights were represented by both the Paradigm agency and Writers House, had been in consideration around Hollywood since the fall, as potential buyers fretted about how to tell a real-life story that is still playing out. Mr. Snowden remains in Russia, and is wanted by the authorities in the United States, where he faces criminal charges. Last month, he retained a Washington lawyer in hopes of reaching a plea deal with federal prosecutors.

HOLLYWOOD
05-14-2014, 03:02 PM
Here's the latest video/transcript talking about the book and interacting to callers/tweets/emails by listeners/viewers this morning, on C-SPAN's Washington Journal

Look's like Russia is going to extend Snowden's stay... well, it's kinda a no brainer after the Ukrainian overthrow and sanctions. Glenn does address many questions here on this thread. recommend a watch

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4498286/glenn-greenwald-im-regular-contact-edward-snowden

bunklocoempire
05-14-2014, 03:11 PM
I caught a great Snowden segment with Greenwald on Democracy Now.

I really can't blame the guy if he's tying it in with his book release. You gotta make hay when you can.

fr33
05-14-2014, 08:38 PM
I imagine that waiting to release some things or saying that you have more to release could be a trump card for protection.

kcchiefs6465
05-14-2014, 08:47 PM
What will be released in the coming weeks is a presentation which proves the NSA targets returning veterans, anti-war activists, and political dissidents.

Greenwald mentioned it would be the most stunning revelation to date, saying that a large portion of the question has not been addressed. That is, who they target in America.

He should release it on Memorial Day.

dntrpltt
05-14-2014, 11:30 PM
I read the first chapter and got the impression he wrote it with a movie in mind.

Sony Pictures Buys Film Rights to Book on Snowden
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/15/business/media/sony-pictures-buys-film-rights-to-book-on-snowden.html

The majority of the book isn't about his meetings with Snowden, its more about the history of domestic surveillance, and more details on the documents themselves. His last chapter lambasts the Obama Administration for crossing lines with journalism that no administration has ever done before since Nixon, and while doing that, he also decries the modern American journalist for being in bed with Washington and not wanting to do anything to disrupt the status quo.

Finished the book in just a few hours. One of the best reads this year.

otherone
05-15-2014, 06:34 AM
Greenwald mentioned it would be the most stunning revelation to date, saying that a large portion of the question has not been addressed. That is, who they target in America.



Seems obvious. The House, the Senate, the SCOTUS, federal judges. The oligarchs created a vast web of agencies that bypass the constitution. Jurisprudence and representative government are long dead. The NSA is a political weapon far more potent than the IRS.

jonhowe
05-15-2014, 07:20 AM
From his GQ interview:



And he predicts Hillary Clinton will win in 2016 (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-12/glenn-greenwald-2016-elections-%E2%80%93-theyll-probably-have-gay-person-after-hillary), which means these disclosures won't change much at all and he knows it.



It's really a shame Snowden didn't go to wikileaks (http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2013/06/in-praise-of-mess-chaos-and-panic.html) instead.







This has been really hard for me to face, but I finally have.



I agreed with you at first. But now I'm seeing the "skeptics" (on-the-fence neocons who are at heart conservatives, they just dont know any better) come around to support Snowden/Greenwald. The "responsible" release of info is a big deal for them, because it avoids the "putting our men in harm's way" argument against leaking.

HOLLYWOOD
05-15-2014, 07:22 AM
Seems obvious. The House, the Senate, the SCOTUS, federal judges. The oligarchs created a vast web of agencies that bypass the constitution. Jurisprudence and representative government are long dead. The NSA is a political weapon far more potent than the IRS.I think Greenwald brought up one of the most critical points, that's related to what has happen to this Federal government, and that is... Here's two very powerful US Senators(Widen & Udall) sitting on the Senate Intelligence Committee and both were silenced from telling/informing the country of the illegal spying on everyone and everything. This absolutely confirms that whistleblower programs today are a complete farce.

To seal the deal, none of those called to testify under oath were charged or arrested for repeatedly lying the Congress. There is no rule of law in America.

nayjevin
05-15-2014, 07:23 AM
I agreed with you at first. But now I'm seeing the "skeptics" (on-the-fence neocons who are at heart conservatives, they just dont know any better) come around to support Snowden/Greenwald. The "responsible" release of info is a big deal for them, because it avoids the "putting our men in harm's way" argument against leaking.

And might be saving Greenwald's life.