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RonPaulFanInGA
05-06-2014, 11:04 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/205423-rep-walter-jones-survives-well-funded-challenge


The Associated Press has called the race for the iconoclastic Jones, who was leading Bush administration official Taylor Griffin (R) by 53 percent to 44 percent with 71 percent of precincts reporting. The win all but guarantees him an 11th term in the House in the heavily Republican district.

cindy25
05-07-2014, 03:45 AM
a 10 term congressman, with no scandals, gets 53% against an unknown non-office holder. that was way too close, and a moral victory for the neo-cons.

jkob
05-07-2014, 04:22 AM
**** palin

Southron
05-07-2014, 06:31 AM
At least he was able to win. We had too few reasons to celebrate last night.

specsaregood
05-07-2014, 06:41 AM
a 10 term congressman, with no scandals, gets 53% against an unknown non-office holder. that was way too close, and a moral victory for the neo-cons.

Not even close to a moral victory, it is a humiliating defeat for neoconservatives. They went all-in against him with their super PAC; all the while having their warmonger candidate staying quiet on the subject.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/179701/neoconservative-super-pac-bets-big-north-carolina-gop-primary-challenge
excerpts:


The Emergency Committee for Israel spent spending over $300,000 in the month of April to run attack ads accusing Jones of being “the most liberal Republican in Congress,” despite the fact that the American Conservative Union ranked him as one of their “ACU Conservatives”—members of Congress who score 80 percent or higher on the organization’s annual matrix of “key conservative voting issues.”

While ECI, a group co-founded by neoconservative political operative Bill Kristol and originally based out of Orion Strategies’ office, home of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, is spending big to make the case about Jones’s shift toward an isolationist foreign policy doctrine, Griffin has been noticeably absent from the debate.

The candidate’s campaign website lists thirteen issue areas in which he takes a position. “Commercial & Sport Fishing” and “Eastern North Carolina Values” get a section. Iran, Israel, foreign policy and national security are nowhere to be found.

Griffin found a lucrative source of campaign funds by teaming up with Iran hawks for campaign contributions. His biggest source of campaign contributions, kicking in $46,850, came from employees of Elliott Management, a hedge fund managed by GOP mega donor and noted Iran hawk Paul Singer.

but if today’s primary is a referendum on the isolationist foreign policy stances taken by Jones, it’s noteworthy that Griffin has rarely mentioned foreign policy in interviews and makes no mention of Iran or Israel on the issues section of his website.

TheTyke
05-07-2014, 07:23 AM
I thought I saw in the other thread that Jones and Griffin each raised about 100K, but the SuperPACs attacking Jones propping up Griffin spent well in excess of $1 million... Too busy to look it up now, but if that's the case, I'd say it was a pretty big defeat for them. :)

Warlord
05-07-2014, 07:37 AM
Go Walter!

specsaregood
05-07-2014, 07:38 AM
I thought I saw in the other thread that Jones and Griffin each raised about 100K, but the SuperPACs attacking Jones propping up Griffin spent well in excess of $1 million... Too busy to look it up now, but if that's the case, I'd say it was a pretty big defeat for them. :)

http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?id=NC03&cycle=2014
As of last quarter:
Candidate: Raised, Spent
Jones: 428,584, 447,941
Neoconpuppet: 263,430, 229,104

PACs spending against Jones: over 1 million.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2014/05/hot-races-2014-in-nc-outside-groups-work-to-oust-wayward-gop-incumbent.html


This time around, enter two outside spending groups: the Ending Spending Fund, a super PAC started by AmeriTrade founder Joe Ricketts, and The Emergency Committee for Israel's 501(c) arm.

Together, the two groups have spent more than $1 million either attacking Jones or praising his leading opponent, former Bush administration Treasury aide Taylor Griffin.

Ending Spending has paid for about three-quarters of the efforts. And while that group says it's dedicated to "reducing the size of government, and balancing our nation's budget," the target of its ads in this case is a lawmaker who voted against the 2012 budget plan of Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) because, he said, its spending cuts weren't deep enough.

Possibly more revealing is that the super PAC took in about $1.2 million in 2012 from megadonors Sheldon and Miriam Adelson, hardline supporters of Israel. Jones has been a target of pro-Israel interests in part because he reversed course and became a staunch opponent of the war in Iraq and has opposed sanctions against Iran. Griffin is hawkish on foreign policy.

The Emergency Committee for Israel is steered by pundit Bill Kristol and a former spokesman for Republican Sen. John McCain's presidential race, Michael Goldfarb. Jones is the only target of the dark money group's spending so far this cycle.

So the only candidate the ECI targeted, won reelection. no moral victory here for those immoral s.o.b.s.

juleswin
05-07-2014, 07:57 AM
http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?id=NC03&cycle=2014
As of last quarter:
Candidate: Raised, Spent
Jones: 428,584, 447,941
Neoconpuppet: 263,430, 229,104

PACs spending against Jones: over 1 million.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2014/05/hot-races-2014-in-nc-outside-groups-work-to-oust-wayward-gop-incumbent.html


So the only candidate the ECI targeted, won reelection. no moral victory here for those immoral s.o.b.s.

Thanks for posting, I was actually thinking about voting for Pete Ricketts in the Nebraska gov primaries.

Batman
05-07-2014, 09:17 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdgo9wc7Z51qczf6zo1_1280.jpg

angelatc
05-07-2014, 09:48 AM
Jones has been a target of pro-Israel interests in part because he reversed course and became a staunch opponent of the war in Iraq and has opposed sanctions against Iran. Griffin is hawkish on foreign policy.


And this is how we lose in 2016. It will be a repeat of the GWB campaign, only this time it will be Jeb talking about non-intervention and strength through trade. The base might not pay attention to such things, but the power brokers do. And when they see the non-interventionist messaging getting traction, they will include it in their talking points until after the election.

Deborah K
05-07-2014, 09:55 AM
And this is how we lose in 2016. It will be a repeat of the GWB campaign, only this time it will be Jeb talking about non-intervention and strength through trade. The base might not pay attention to such things, but the power brokers do. And when they see the non-interventionist messaging getting traction, they will include it in their talking points until after the election.

I'm sure you're right.

HOLLYWOOD
05-07-2014, 10:35 AM
Media is part of the game... like this example of POLITICO propaganda One of the points brings up Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum in 2012, both were working for large Lobbying Firm within the DC beltway. Same goes for Griffin, who is giving not only a free pass from Marxist run WaPo and POLITICO, but basically free pro establishment advertisement via media. It all comes down to getting through to the brainwashed Boobus...

Here's an example of the "DC Political Cocktail Party" aka "The Party of One"

PS: This also prove, Sarah Palin is a Fucking Con Artist for the establishment. Put her on the same Titantic boat as Glenn Beck.


http://www.politico.com/click/focus/taylor_griffin.htmlTaylor Griffin

http://images.politico.com/global/click/090903_taylor_griffin_click_pa_focus.jpg Taylor Griffin has earned his spot on the cocktail circuit thanks to his extensive D.C. résumé.

He now hangs his hat at his own consulting firm, Sulgrave Partners, where he helps provide strategic communications, business advice and management services. His career in and around Washington has taken him from the Treasury Department to the Senate to the White House and the private sector.

“Washington is a place that’s very social, where people like to spend a lot of time with interesting people out and about,” Griffin tells POLITICO.

What helped Griffin develop the relationships and contacts that keep him on everyone’s invite list was his work on three presidential campaigns. In 2008, he served as an adviser to John McCain’s campaign and led the crisis communications team for the campaign’s vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin. In addition, he joined the communications efforts for both the 2000 and 2004 Bush-Cheney tickets.

“I was always interested in politics and policy,” says Griffin. “And a chance meeting with a Hill staffer at a cocktail party led to a summer internship in the Senate. I returned the following summer for another internship and, after graduating from college in 1999, decided to stay in Washington for good.”

As any good consultant knows, being out and about is a key part of any business, especially when there are clients to get; Griffin (a native of Raleigh, N.C.) plays the part admirably with a ready smile and folksy charm.

http://images.politico.com/global/click/091208_click7_392.jpg
L-R: BBC's Kim Ghattas, USTR's Christina Sevilla, U.S. Department of Treasury's Rawan Abdelrazek,
The National Gallery of Art's Danielle Hahn, Taylor Griffin and CNN's Elise Labott. (http://images.politico.com/global/click/091208_click7_392.jpg)

I would like to point out this clip below, that's Griffin with full blown Socialist and Propagandist writer Christopher Hitchens.

http://kwout.com/cutout/8/rf/6b/qs2_bor.jpg
The premier destination for news and gossip on D.C.'s social scene | POLITICO CLICK (http://www.politico.com/click/focus/taylor_griffin.html)

Hitchens began working as a correspondent for the magazine International Socialism, published by the International Socialists, the forerunners of today's British Socialist Workers Party. This group was broadly Trotskyist,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2OK7yJwN7M

RonPaulFanInGA
05-07-2014, 12:50 PM
a 10 term congressman, with no scandals, gets 53% against an unknown non-office holder. that was way too close, and a moral victory for the neo-cons.

'Close' only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

cindy25
05-07-2014, 10:31 PM
close encourages them. they will try again in 2 years, and they will try in MI with Amash, in KY with Massie; and Rand will have a senate primary in 2016 (who will McConnell support?)

Brian4Liberty
05-07-2014, 10:41 PM
This was a huge victory, not least of which was the fact that it stopped the mainstream media from rubbing an establishment/neoconservative victory in our faces. We get silence instead of smug gloating and celebration.

nobody's_hero
05-08-2014, 06:38 AM
And this is how we lose in 2016. It will be a repeat of the GWB campaign, only this time it will be Jeb talking about non-intervention and strength through trade. The base might not pay attention to such things, but the power brokers do. And when they see the non-interventionist messaging getting traction, they will include it in their talking points until after the election.

Could be truth to that. Let's not forget that Bush raked Gore over the coals and preached a non-interventionist foreign policy, and when he got into office, he did the extreme opposite of what he campaigned on.

Warlord
05-08-2014, 07:54 AM
bump

Keith and stuff
05-09-2014, 08:48 AM
a 10 term congressman, with no scandals, gets 53% against an unknown non-office holder. that was way too close, and a moral victory for the neo-cons.

Yes, this was a victory for the neocons. In fact, even that they found a neocon to run against Jones was a victory for them. It caused Jones pain to even have an opponent. He had to work hard, again, more pain for him. Nevertheless, in the end of the day, it was also a victory for Jones.

compromise
05-09-2014, 08:59 AM
a 10 term congressman, with no scandals, gets 53% against an unknown non-office holder. that was way too close, and a moral victory for the neo-cons.

Walter Jones didn't really campaign at all. Griffin spent months on the campaign trail.

RandallFan
05-09-2014, 08:07 PM
Walter Jones wont lose because of his stance on immigration. They are definitely going to push for some sort of amnesty in 2015. Walter Jones will be 1 of the few hardliners in 2015 and 2016 in NC.

Amnesty hasn't been brought up for a house vote since 2010.

http://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2014/05/08/walter-jones-repels-a-war-party-attack/


They are saying: You can be for amnesty for illegal aliens, support same-sex marriage, be pro-choice on abortion, and you can still be welcome in our party. But oppose foreign aid or resist the War Party agenda, and you are a heretic who should and shall be purged.

Taylor Griffin had "no amnesty" in one his ads but Ingraham caught him.

anaconda
05-10-2014, 04:56 AM
And this is how we lose in 2016. It will be a repeat of the GWB campaign, only this time it will be Jeb talking about non-intervention and strength through trade. The base might not pay attention to such things, but the power brokers do. And when they see the non-interventionist messaging getting traction, they will include it in their talking points until after the election.

Which should make it a high priority debate topic for Rand. Rand can put the establishment candidates behind the eight ball by talking up the likelihood of establishment windbags having zero credibility with their "conservative" talking points (pointing to George W. Bush as evidence).

anaconda
05-10-2014, 04:57 AM
Interesting: a different Jewish group gave Walter Jones $10,000 for his campaign.

http://forward.com/articles/197877/j-street-backed-gop-incumbent-walter-jones-survive/