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CaseyJones
05-06-2014, 10:05 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/santorum-dismisses-rand-paul-the-republican-party-is-not-a-libertarian-party/


Former GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum has a penchant for dismissing the libertarian movement, and he made that once again on Monday evening when he dismissed the electoral prospects of Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), telling CNN that the “Republican Party is not a libertarian party.”

Crossfire host Van Jones asked Santorum for his thoughts on the Kentucky senator, who is currently the “frontrunner” for the 2016 GOP: “Do you agree with his ideas, are you going to support Rand Paul?”

“There’s diversity in the Republican Party,” Santorum hesitated, but Jones pressed further: “Is he the new face of the Republican Party? Is this your leader?”

“Well, no, he’s not my leader, I can tell you that for sure,” the former senator scoffed. “His father and I had some disagreements during the last campaign.”

Jones then asked him outright: “If a libertarian like him becomes the leader of the Republican Party — gets the nomination — would you vote for them?”

“First off, I don’t think that will happen,” Santorum asserted, “because the Republican Party is not a libertarian party, it is a conservative party. And it will nominate a conservative, and not a libertarian.”

Santorum then went on to reassert his belief in “modestly” increasing the federal minimum wage.

video at link

Kords21
05-06-2014, 10:18 AM
Santorum needs to stay home and fold his sweater vests this time around. He couldn't be more out of touch with where things are going. Could be good for a few laughs though. Maybe he needs to try stand up comedy, might be taken more seriously.

Peace&Freedom
05-06-2014, 10:24 AM
“First off, I don’t think that will happen,” Santorum asserted, “because the Republican Party is not a libertarian party, it is a conservative party. And it will nominate a conservative, and not a libertarian.”

Santorum then went on to reassert his belief in “modestly” increasing the federal minimum wage.

Disconnect time, big time.

acptulsa
05-06-2014, 10:35 AM
Obviously libertarian ideals aren't conservative, and have no place in the GOP. They could never gain traction there.

Which, of course, explains the Reagan Phenomenon. Has nothing to do with the fact that Reagan espoused libertarian ideals out of both sides of his mouth for two years running in 1979 and 1980, mind you. People voted for Reagan and his libertarian spouting to bury libertarian ideals, not because they agreed with them, don't you see...

donnay
05-06-2014, 10:40 AM
I dismiss Santorum.

Kotin
05-06-2014, 10:40 AM
santorum just bragged about voting to increase the minimum wage..

hey frothy.. this is Rand.. you try that shit dismissing him, especially in a debate, he will tear you a new asshole.

Ronin Truth
05-06-2014, 10:45 AM
It's closer to the GOP than to the libertarians.

V3n
05-06-2014, 10:53 AM
We wouldn't have Common Core without 'No Child Left Behind' and we wouldn't have 'No Child Left Behind' without Santorum.

Santorum is the root of all evil.

Dr.3D
05-06-2014, 10:55 AM
I'll bet he still thinks his surge was all about him.

Ronin Truth
05-06-2014, 11:18 AM
Obviously libertarian ideals aren't conservative, and have no place in the GOP. They could never gain traction there.

Which, of course, explains the Reagan Phenomenon. Has nothing to do with the fact that Reagan espoused libertarian ideals out of both sides of his mouth for two years running in 1979 and 1980, mind you. People voted for Reagan and his libertarian spouting to bury libertarian ideals, not because they agreed with them, don't you see...

The Libertarian Party (oxymoron) rank and file was originally composed largely of disgruntled, disgusted and frustrated limited government GOP conservatives. And maybe it still is.

Matt Collins
05-06-2014, 11:21 AM
Looks like he is quoting Lindsey Graham:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/06/santorum-dismisses-rand-pauls-2016-prospects-the-republican-party-is-not-a-libertarian-party/ (http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/06/santorum-dismisses-rand-pauls-2016-prospects-the-republican-party-is-not-a-libertarian-party/)

jkob
05-06-2014, 11:22 AM
Santorum's crazy ass thinks he'll win

Dr.3D
05-06-2014, 11:22 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?451342-Santorum-Dismisses-Rand-Paul-%91The-Republican-Party-Is-Not-a-Libertarian-Party%92

Red Green
05-06-2014, 11:25 AM
Rand should be happy that's he's being dismissed by a nobody of absolute no consequence.

liberalnurse
05-06-2014, 11:26 AM
santorum just bragged about voting to increase the minimum wage..

hey frothy.. this is Rand.. you try that shit dismissing him, especially in a debate, he will tear you a new asshole.

Oh, the memories. :D

TomtheTinker
05-06-2014, 11:43 AM
“Well first off, I don’t think that will happen,” Santorum claimed, “because the Republican Party is not a libertarian party, it is a conservative party. And it will nominate a conservative, and not a libertarian.”

When is the last time a conservative got nominated to the republican party let alone wine the presidency?? Regan talked like one but governed like every other president.

when is the last time your brand of Evangelical got the nomination. NEVER.

Move over sir. Let adults take the drivers seat.

Cleaner44
05-06-2014, 11:50 AM
When is the last time a conservative got nominated to the republican party let alone wine the presidency?? Regan talked like one but governed like every other president.

when is the last time your brand of Evangelical got the nomination. NEVER.

Move over sir. Let adults take the drivers seat.

Not only that, in 2012 the Republican Party nominated a progressive from the northeast, not a conservative. Frothy is selling bullshit to a small minority of religious statists.

The Republican Party voters aren't interested in losing again Frothy. You are dismissed.

HOLLYWOOD
05-06-2014, 11:53 AM
Santorum has been on FOX NEWS lately numerous times playing the 2016 presidential run meme... of course the softball throwing pre-scripted pump monkeys at NEWSCORP FNC continue to push the establishment Fascist. I wonder if media will bring up Rick Snatorums's Pennsylvania Felony fraud of taking $10s of thousands in remote homeschooling funds for his children, while they were all living in Virginia?


The game is rigged... the fraud continues at all levels.

twomp
05-06-2014, 11:59 AM
I hope Santorum runs just so he splits the bible thumper vote with Huckabee. I hope lots of people run actually. Romney, Bush, Rubio, Paul Ryan, Christie, Palin. Rand Paul will have his set of voters while the rest split theirs.

CPUd
05-06-2014, 01:33 PM
Rooster should go to reddit and do an AMA.

Carlybee
05-06-2014, 01:48 PM
Narcissist

AngryCanadian
05-06-2014, 01:56 PM
Then if the Republican Party Is Not a Libertarian Party why not just rename themselves as the war party is always right party?

jllundqu
05-06-2014, 01:59 PM
Yeah... didn't Santorum get his ass dismissed back in 2011? Why does he even presume to have some relevancy?

Dr.3D
05-06-2014, 02:00 PM
Narcissist
Would somebody who likes Daffodils be called a Narcissist?
After all, a Daffodil is in the Narcissus family.

Anti Federalist
05-06-2014, 02:02 PM
Not only that, in 2012 the Republican Party nominated a progressive from the northeast, not a conservative. Frothy is selling bullshit to a small minority of religious statists.

The Republican Party voters aren't interested in losing again Frothy. You are dismissed.

Because: electability.

ZENemy
05-06-2014, 02:11 PM
Why do people even respond to this guy? Why would I take the word of this sick freak?

Santorum, like most "elected officials" are trolls and can only exist if they are FED! Starve these pathetic sacks of shit of attention and watch them all wither and die.



In 2006, Rick Santorum, less than two months before suffering one of the worst losses in Senate history, was named one of three “most corrupt” Senators by CREW, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

“The officials named in this report have chosen to enrich themselves and their families and friends by abusing the power of their office, rather than work for the public good. Their collective corruption affects all Americans,” stated the executive director of CREW, Melanie Sloan.

“Sen. Santorum’s ethics issues stem from the manner in which he funded his children’s education and his misuse of legislative position in exchange for contributions to his political action committee and his re-election campaign,” CREW notes, on page 207 of their exhaustive report (PDF), which delves into deep detail across eleven extensively-footnoted pages.

In February of 2006, CREW had filed an ethics complaint with the Senate Ethics Committee against Senator Santorum, “alleging that Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) violated the Senate Gift Rule by accepting a mortgage from The Philadelphia Trust Company, a bank that serves affluent clients.”

Charging that “ethical trespasses have become the norm for Sen. Santorum,” CREW’s Melanie Sloan cited Santorum’s “contempt for the rules” as “particularly ironic given that Sen. Santorum has long attempted to position himself as the poster child for public morality.”

The following month, CREW filed a complaint with the IRS against a group of Pennsylvania pastors for violating IRS rules demanding separation of church and state.


http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/santorum-named-one-of-three-most-corrupt-senators-in-2006/politics/2012/01/07/32863

acptulsa
05-06-2014, 02:12 PM
Because: electability.

Doesn't seem to be slowing Fox down.

How arrogant do you have to be to believe you're a good enough sales organization to sell people Santorum spewing?

Fortunately, pride goeth before a fall. And we're just the people to yank on that rug, too.

bunklocoempire
05-06-2014, 02:14 PM
FAKE! :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPexbzJUU4

jbauer
05-06-2014, 02:57 PM
FAKE! :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPexbzJUU4

Classic!!

WM_in_MO
05-06-2014, 03:11 PM
>Former GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum has a penchant for dismissing the libertarian movement

I'd violate the nap to dismiss him to the moon.

Philhelm
05-06-2014, 03:17 PM
Yeah... didn't Santorum get his ass dismissed back in 2011? Why does he even presume to have some relevancy?

His name has become synonymous with complete and utter anal filth. That is relevant, I would say.

anaconda
05-06-2014, 11:16 PM
In this "HuffPo Live" video on Santorum's comments, one of the talking heads says Rand Paul is "SO hot right now!.."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/05/rick-santorum-rand-paul_n_5270046.html

Aratus
05-07-2014, 12:28 AM
Santorum's crazy ass thinks he'll win

yes... rather crudely put. yes... he does! ... he has his high hopes for Iowa.

heavenlyboy34
05-07-2014, 12:47 AM
The GOP has primarily been a fascist party since Lincoln. It's split into wings, but the dominant faction among the hoi polloi fluctuates.

cindy25
05-07-2014, 12:47 AM
Santorum will win Iowa if Huck does not run and split the religious vote. and maybe he is right. maybe Rand has to run 3rd party, and if Hillary wins because of it so be it. At least Wall Street will learn a lesson

Aratus
05-07-2014, 12:53 AM
unfortunately... despite the way he was a FATCAT magnet in 2o12... and perhaps has a few honesty
and/or BIG DIG graft moments Gentleman Mitt is almost the ideal candidate for 2o16! He takes three
stances at the same time despite their internal conflicts, he is handsome, hard working in a white collar
way & has a head for business. Can't quite say the same for Rick Santorum. Try not to spook the Mittsters.

Vanguard101
05-07-2014, 01:07 AM
Santorum will win Iowa if Huck does not run and split the religious vote. and maybe he is right. maybe Rand has to run 3rd party, and if Hillary wins because of it so be it. At least Wall Street will learn a lesson

???????????????????????????????????

heavenlyboy34
05-07-2014, 01:09 AM
unfortunately... despite the way he was a FATCAT magnet in 2o12... and perhaps has a few honesty
and/or BIG DIG graft moments Gentleman Mitt is almost the ideal candidate for 2o16! He takes three
stances at the same time despite their internal conflicts, he is handsome, hard working in a white collar
way & has a head for business. Can't quite say the same for Rick Santorum. Try not to spook the Mittsters.
Does he really? I've read conflicting accounts on this, and never took enough interest to look into it 'for realz'.

Aratus
05-07-2014, 01:11 AM
all the tea leaves in my tea cup are forming the neat lil words
DR. RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT IN 2020!!! by my bifocals, yes!
HILLARY C. is only a one-termer, the party loyalty is with BHO.

Aratus
05-07-2014, 01:12 AM
Does he really? I've read conflicting accounts on this, and never took enough interest to look into it 'for realz'.

true... but most Mittsters did not spend the tyme to get familiar with the issues of the hour, hence their tendency to like him despite his stances!

Aratus
05-07-2014, 01:13 AM
we still will have one huge debt.
we are sending troops overseas.

Weston White
05-07-2014, 01:26 AM
Bleeping idiot! The Republican Party derived from the failed Whig Party in 1854, the latter which had succeeded the National Republican Party; as the Republican Party (i.e., Democratic-Republican Party, between 1792-1824, while America function under a first-party political system) was originally founded by Jeffersonian Republicans, among which included our Nations’ two most prominent, strict constitutionalists, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. And hence its token name the Grand Old Party, being that it is America's second oldest political party.

This has been the exact problem with true constitutional-libertarians, minarchists, and the like throughout history, always running off to start their own thing, and ultimately failing, rather than opting to stay and tactfully “have it out”. Ergo, the Republican Party has been hijacked long ago by political hacks and the small-minded.

unknown
05-07-2014, 05:01 AM
When is the last time a conservative got nominated to the republican party let alone wine the presidency?? Regan talked like one but governed like every other president.

when is the last time your brand of Evangelical got the nomination. NEVER.

Move over sir. Let adults take the drivers seat.

http://i.imgur.com/K4JEOqd.jpg

unknown
05-07-2014, 05:06 AM
Santorum will win Iowa if Huck does not run and split the religious vote. and maybe he is right. maybe Rand has to run 3rd party, and if Hillary wins because of it so be it. At least Wall Street will learn a lesson

Huh?

unknown
05-07-2014, 05:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL9HrU6Y5-s

compromise
05-07-2014, 05:23 AM
Santorum will win Iowa if Huck does not run and split the religious vote. and maybe he is right. maybe Rand has to run 3rd party, and if Hillary wins because of it so be it. At least Wall Street will learn a lesson

The only reason Santorum did so well in Iowa was because of his weak opposition. He had a deadbeat former Speaker, a deadbeat former Massachusetts Governor and Ron Paul, who wasn't even running to win. Santorum won't stand a chance in the 2016 field even if Huck doesn't run and Huck is almost guaranteed to run.

Mr.NoSmile
05-07-2014, 05:32 AM
The only reason Santorum did so well in Iowa was because of his weak opposition. He had a deadbeat former Speaker, a deadbeat former Massachusetts Governor and Ron Paul, who wasn't even running to win. Santorum won't stand a chance in the 2016 field even if Huck doesn't run and Huck is almost guaranteed to run.

But given the amount of attention Santorum keeps getting about a potential 2016 run and how he managed to best Romney in some states during the 2012 race, isn't there just as much of a chance that he'd do so again in 2016? It also didn't help that the field was filled with people who put their feet in their mouths and said some pretty ridiculous things, pretty much siphoning votes away from each other and solidifying Romney as the supposed frontrunner.

CaptUSA
05-07-2014, 05:47 AM
IIRC, FOX had some pretty big numbers during the last GOP primary. It had everything - race, sex, drama, comedy, insults, and suspense.

Methinks they are planning a re-run. The cast may change slightly, but there will be plenty of holdovers from last season. Grab some popcorn and enjoy the show.

WM_in_MO
05-07-2014, 05:48 AM
Santorum will win Iowa if Huck does not run and split the religious vote. and maybe he is right. maybe Rand has to run 3rd party, and if Hillary wins because of it so be it. At least Wall Street will learn a lesson

They'll learn that they can still buy elections?

Tywysog Cymru
05-07-2014, 05:55 AM
The only reason Santorum did so well in Iowa was because of his weak opposition. He had a deadbeat former Speaker, a deadbeat former Massachusetts Governor and Ron Paul, who wasn't even running to win. Santorum won't stand a chance in the 2016 field even if Huck doesn't run and Huck is almost guaranteed to run.

I think that Santorum has been exposed as a big-spending liberal to most Conservatives.

Terry1
05-07-2014, 05:56 AM
Santorum is a progressive bed wetter.

specsaregood
05-07-2014, 06:06 AM
Because: electability.

Nothing says electability like:


On election night, Casey won the race with 59% of the vote, compared to 41% for incumbent Senator Rick Santorum. Casey's margin of victory was the highest ever for a Democrat running for the United States Senate in Pennsylvania.

losing by the greatest margin in history -- especially for an incumbent.

juleswin
05-07-2014, 06:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL9HrU6Y5-s

He is also proud of his votes to increase the minimum wage etc etc. Oh how I miss Freedom watch

juleswin
05-07-2014, 06:20 AM
double post

trey4sports
05-07-2014, 06:43 AM
President Paul, President Paul!