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Anti Federalist
05-05-2014, 03:43 PM
Some schools push to roll back healthy lunch requirements

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/schools-push-roll-back-health-lunch-requirements/

ALEXANDRIA, Va. — Becky Domokos-Bays of Alexandria City Public Schools has served her students whole-grain pasta 20 times. Each time, she said, they rejected it.

Starting next school year, pasta and other grain products in schools will have to be whole-grain rich, or more than half whole grain. That includes rolls, biscuits, pizza crust, tortillas and even grits.

The requirement is part of a government effort to make school lunches and breakfasts healthier. Championed by first lady Michelle Obama, the new standards have been phased in over the last two school years, with more changes coming in 2014.

School’s main concerns: finding enough whole grain-rich foods that kids like, lowering sodium levels and keeping fruits and vegetables from ending up in the trash.Some schools say the changes have been expensive and difficult to put in place, and school officials are asking Congress and the Agriculture Department to roll back some of the requirements. Their main concerns: finding enough whole grain-rich foods that kids like, lowering sodium levels and keeping fruits and vegetables from ending up in the trash.

In interviews, school nutrition directors across the country mostly agreed that healthy changes were needed in school lunches — long famous for daily servings of greasy fries and pizza. Kids have adapted easily to many of the changes, are getting more variety in the lunch line and are eating healthier.

But Domokos-Bays and other school nutrition directors say the standards were put in place too quickly as kids get used to new tastes and school lunch vendors rush to reformulate their foods. When kids don’t buy lunch, or throw it away, it costs the schools precious dollars.

“The regulations are so prescriptive, so it’s difficult to manage not only the nutrition side of your businesses but the business side of your business,” Domokos-Bays said.

Some of the main challenges reported by school nutrition directors:
•Whole grains. While many kids have adapted to whole grain rolls, breads and even pizza crusts, some schools are having problems with whole grain-rich pastas, which can cook differently. USDA’s Janey Thornton, a former school nutrition director, says the government is working with the food industry to develop better pastas.

Whole grains have also proved a hard sell for some popular regional items, like biscuits and grits in the South. Lyman Graham of the Roswell, New Mexico, school district says tortillas are one of the most popular foods in his area, but the whole wheat flour versions are “going in the trash.”

•Sodium. Schools will have to lower the total sodium levels in school meals next school year and then will have to lower them even further by 2017.
School lunch directors say the 2017 target — 640 milligrams total in an elementary school lunch and 740 milligrams in a high school lunch — isn’t feasible and say kids will reject the foods. USDA’s Thornton acknowledges the food industry isn’t there yet but encourages frustrated school lunch directors to “worry about today first before we imagine the worst down the road.”

•Fruits and vegetables. The standards require every student to take a fruit or vegetable to create a balanced plate. The reaction among students has been mixed. “If the kids don’t eat the food, then all I have is healthy trash cans,” said Peggy Lawrence, director of nutrition at the Rockdale County Public Schools in Georgia.

•Healthier snacks. Schools will for the first time this year have to make sure that all foods, including vending machines and a la carte lines, meet healthier standards. While many schools have already moved to make snacks healthier, others depend on snack money to help operate their lunchrooms and are worried about a sales dip.

The School Nutrition Association has asked Congress and USDA to only require that 50 percent of foods be whole grain-rich, to suspend the 2017 sodium requirements and to stop requiring students to take a fruit or vegetable.

Margo Wootan, a nutrition lobbyist for the Center for Science in the Public Interest who has pushed for healthier meals, says relaxing those standards could gut the program. “You can’t call a meal a meal without a fruit or vegetable,” she said.

USDA has shown some flexibility already: In 2012, the department scrapped maximums on proteins and grains after students complained they were hungry.

USDA’s Thornton says problems will lessen as the food industry creates healthier products. “I’ll bet that five or seven years down the road, we’ll see kids eating healthy food and we’ll see acceptance,” she said.

Republicans say they may intervene before then. Alabama Rep. Robert Aderholt, the Republican in charge of the House spending committee overseeing USDA, has said school districts need a “pause” while problems are worked out.

Aderholt’s panel is expected to release a new spending bill this month that may propose changes. Republicans also are eying the next five-year renewal of the school foods policy, due in 2015.

Sam Kass, senior policy adviser for nutrition at the White House, said last month that there have been “tremendous gains” in school foods and said he finds efforts to undermine that disappointing. “First and foremost, the key is not going back,” he said.

At Alexandria’s Patrick Henry Elementary last Tuesday, students said they loved their lunches and gobbled up plump strawberries. Kindergartner Jade Kennedy said she recently tried kiwi at school for the first time.

But Domokos-Bays said she will serve white pasta to the students until she has to make the change this summer. Tuesday was pasta day, and several children said it was their favorite lunch — “better than my mom made,” first-grader Ruth Gebregiorgis said.

Anti Federalist
05-05-2014, 03:47 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/07/article-2598525-1CE5975600000578-765_1024x615_large.jpg

donnay
05-05-2014, 04:10 PM
*barf*

It's all Orwellian. Healthier Food = Unhealthy Food.

Suzanimal
05-05-2014, 06:24 PM
I can't believe parents actually buy that shit for their kids. I never ate school lunches until I got to HS and I only started buying then because we had an awesome salad bar at our school.

2young2vote
05-05-2014, 06:27 PM
My school in Jr. High and High school used to sell fresh Dominos pizza, candy bars, packaged muffins/doughnuts, bags of name-brand chips, hamburgers, Nachos and cheese, candy bars, all the pop and juices you can think of, and lots of other junk food. But it was tasty, and I would spend $4+ of my parents money on it every day.

Then they outsourced to a private company that sold absolute crap. Dirty looking hamburgers, pizza only once a week, nasty vegetables and soggy fruit. Needless to say, I went hungry many a time instead of eating and spending money on that crap.

The problem is that there is no accountability. Students complaining can't really do anything, and when the gov't is mandating all kinds of nasty foods be provided the companies themselves can't do much to satisfy the customers. If it wasn't for them having a captured customer base they would definitely go out of business.

Paulbot99
05-05-2014, 06:42 PM
It's a pity. I loved school food. You were given lots of options at my high school. If you wanted health food, the salad bar was good. Otherwise, there was a hot bar with something different and tasty nearby, pizza and snacks in the a larger carte line, and regular lunches with good staple foods like chicken patties, hamburgers, hot dog, st f. The sides were good too.

heavenlyboy34
05-05-2014, 06:50 PM
School food usually tastes awful. Except for one year, I always brown-bagged it.

alucard13mm
05-05-2014, 06:51 PM
Only winners are michelle's friends that own those processing food companies.

Anti Federalist
05-05-2014, 07:05 PM
I'm old enough to remember that we actually were allowed to escape and eat locally from delis and pizza joints and lunch counters around the school.

Anti Federalist
05-05-2014, 07:09 PM
The problem is that there is no accountability. Students complaining can't really do anything, and when the gov't is mandating all kinds of nasty foods be provided the companies themselves can't do much to satisfy the customers. If it wasn't for them having a captured customer base they would definitely go out of business.

Thus the Soviet reference in my thread title.;)

Anti Federalist
05-05-2014, 07:10 PM
The problem is that there is no accountability. Students complaining can't really do anything, and when the gov't is mandating all kinds of nasty foods be provided the companies themselves can't do much to satisfy the customers. If it wasn't for them having a captured customer base they would definitely go out of business.

Thus the Soviet reference in my thread title.;)

ClydeCoulter
05-05-2014, 07:14 PM
Which Article and Section gives that authority? Is it a tax? The whole damn overreaching is pretty taxing.

Get grandma in there making the food.

Suzanimal
05-05-2014, 07:16 PM
I'm old enough to remember that we actually were allowed to escape and eat locally from delis and pizza joints and lunch counters around the school.

Me too, but the only thing really close enough to get was Arbys or McDonalds. I've never been a fan of fast food so I spent my lunches eating salad. It was either that or make my own lunch. For awhile I got stuck making lunches for my brothers and just to fuck with them I put gnarly shit in their lunch boxes until they gave up and started buying.:)

LibertyEagle
05-05-2014, 07:23 PM
School food tasted like crap when I was in school. Therefore, I took my lunch most every day. What's so hard about making a sandwich before you go to school?

Anti Federalist
05-05-2014, 07:29 PM
School food tasted like crap when I was in school. Therefore, I took my lunch most every day. What's so hard about making a sandwich before you go to school?

Prohibited in most schools as far as I know.

donnay
05-05-2014, 07:43 PM
In Seattle if you say "brown bag" (http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/02/seattle-city-government-bans-racist-terms-like-citizen-and-brown-bag/) you will be labeled a racist.

amy31416
05-05-2014, 08:15 PM
I'm old enough to remember that we actually were allowed to escape and eat locally from delis and pizza joints and lunch counters around the school.

We weren't allowed to, but we did anyways. The pizza place next to the school made the most awesome deep-fried pizza balls that you'd ever burn your mouth on.

amy31416
05-05-2014, 08:17 PM
School food tasted like crap when I was in school. Therefore, I took my lunch most every day. What's so hard about making a sandwich before you go to school?

Lots of schools actually inspect bagged lunches these days to make sure they meet federal guidelines for shittiness. If they aren't shitty enough, they confiscate, make them eat the school lunch and bill the parent.

So far I've only heard of that happening in some grade schools.

CPUd
05-05-2014, 08:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWTGsUyv8IE

Carson
05-05-2014, 08:42 PM
Which Article and Section gives that authority? Is it a tax? The whole damn overreaching is pretty taxing.

Get grandma in there making the food.

My Grandma use to work in my school cafeteria.

Anti Federalist
05-05-2014, 08:42 PM
We weren't allowed to, but we did anyways. The pizza place next to the school made the most awesome deep-fried pizza balls that you'd ever burn your mouth on.

Ummm...wut?

Tell me more...

kahless
05-05-2014, 08:59 PM
Even if I forgot my lunch I could not bring myself to eat the disgusting school food. It was not fit for an animal back then and that was over 30 years ago.

I still cannot get the vivid picture of the rotten string beans on my tray out of my head.

amy31416
05-05-2014, 08:59 PM
Ummm...wut?

Tell me more...

Wish they were still in business, but for $2 you could buy this ball of delicious. It had sauce (not sweet either, hate sweet), a few slices of pepperoni and a ton of mozzarella that melted like it was fresh, so it had super stretch when you bit into the crispy, fried crust. All they did was take normal pizza dough, add the ingredients, then essentially crimp it into a ball shape, then deep fry. Erie was a big-time Italian town, so we had some unique things that I was surprised nobody else did. We also had pepperoni balls, baked, so they were almost like greasy yeast dinner rolls with pepperoni, sometimes salami inside.

I haven't thought about them in years, I think I'll have to try to make them since I got all the equipment and make my own mozzarella now. If it's a success, I may post it up.

tod evans
05-05-2014, 09:05 PM
School food tasted like crap when I was in school. Therefore, I took my lunch most every day. What's so hard about making a sandwich before you go to school?

Not only was school food nasty when I was in my family couldn't afford to pay for 6 kids lunches every day...

We brown bagged it.

kahless
05-05-2014, 09:07 PM
Wish they were still in business, but for $2 you could buy this ball of delicious. It had sauce (not sweet either, hate sweet), a few slices of pepperoni and a ton of mozzarella that melted like it was fresh, so it had super stretch when you bit into the crispy, fried crust. All they did was take normal pizza dough, add the ingredients, then essentially crimp it into a ball shape, then deep fry. Erie was a big-time Italian town, so we had some unique things that I was surprised nobody else did. We also had pepperoni balls, baked, so they were almost like greasy yeast dinner rolls with pepperoni, sometimes salami inside.

I haven't thought about them in years, I think I'll have to try to make them since I got all the equipment and make my own mozzarella now. If it's a success, I may post it up.

Mmmm. "Erie was". Just like everywhere else in NY it seems.

amy31416
05-05-2014, 09:18 PM
Mmmm. "Erie was". Just like everywhere else in NY it seems.

This is actually the PA version I'm talking about, but yeah--not so Italian anymore. I think it was over 10 years ago when they had the first non-Italian mayor in over 100 years...just about every single teacher I had in middle school was Italian. Lots of immigrants being imported there--hope those Ethiopians liked being in a city with the highest snowfall this year. That's got to be quite a shock to the system...

KCIndy
05-05-2014, 09:25 PM
I'm old enough to remember that we actually were allowed to escape and eat locally from delis and pizza joints and lunch counters around the school.

Same here. We had about an hour for lunch, which was just enough time to walk out, stand in line, get the order, and then either sit and eat fast, or munch it down as we strolled back to school. It made for a tight lunch, but the responsibility made us feel like adults.

Now, from what I understand, this behavior is no longer tolerated. The schools are in a permanent state of lockdown, thus sparing the students from any semblance of responsibility and self motivation.

All good prisoners - err, students - will henceforth march to the chow hall en masse, eyes forward and in lockstep! Don't worry. The State will feed you an Approved Diet of what you need, not what you want. Individual wishes run contrary to the Good of the State.

:(

Pericles
05-05-2014, 09:38 PM
Which Article and Section gives that authority? Is it a tax? The whole damn overreaching is pretty taxing.

Get grandma in there making the food.
Some ass in Washington, DC decides what every school kid in the country gets to eat. And it gets worse. There are people who think this state of affairs is desirable.

Anti Federalist
05-06-2014, 01:03 AM
Some ass in Washington, DC decides what every school kid in the country gets to eat. And it gets worse. There are people who think this state of affairs is desirable.

Most people...

Anti Federalist
05-06-2014, 01:03 AM
Some ass in Washington, DC decides what every school kid in the country gets to eat. And it gets worse. There are people who think this state of affairs is desirable.

Most people...

jclay2
05-06-2014, 02:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWTGsUyv8IE

Wow, some of the comments are blaming capitalism for this? :confused:

Barrex
05-06-2014, 07:29 AM
Luxury. The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth... and that was if we were lucky!!!

Paulbot99
05-06-2014, 01:01 PM
Good bye stuffed crust pizza too.... :(

And chicken flies...

And good Italian food.

jllundqu
05-06-2014, 01:27 PM
All this means is that big-chem will have to pump toxic crap into the "healthier" mandates to make it look and taste better. Not to mention adding mountains of preservatives to pump up shelf life.

Freedom = Slavery
War = Peace
Mind = Blown

heavenlyboy34
05-06-2014, 01:54 PM
Most people...
This, comrade, is one reason we plebians and mundanes can't have nice things. Tyranny of the Majority FTFail.

amy31416
05-06-2014, 01:58 PM
Good bye stuffed crust pizza too.... :(

And chicken flies...

And good Italian food.

No mo chicken flies?

BONSAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Demigod
05-06-2014, 02:18 PM
As probably the only one except Barex here who has eaten at a real socialist cafeteria let me tell you they weren't that concerned about whether the pizza was whole grain.It was god damn stews and salad every day,most kids refused to eat stews at home because of it (of course in time they found the error of their ways).My primary school was 5 minutes from my apartment so I went home to eat most of the time (30 minute break ),later on all the cafeterias were closed and we had private bakeries bring us lunch Today all the kids go out to eat ( there are lots of shops,bakeries,fast food around the schools ),bring their food from home or go home .

The schools have no authority nor could they implement it when the "security" was made up from last year students (every day rotations of different 3-4 guys ) ,today some schools have private security + students but the results are the same.

And how could I have forgot Panini World Cup Albums,I would spend all my lunch money on pictures almost the entire year it was held,and then run home after school to eat.

Philhelm
05-06-2014, 02:47 PM
Which Article and Section gives that authority? Is it a tax? The whole damn overreaching is pretty taxing.

Get grandma in there making the food.

Interstate commerce.