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ValidusCustodiae
11-30-2007, 11:53 PM
[quote]..

jake
11-30-2007, 11:54 PM
good legwork

Brutus
11-30-2007, 11:58 PM
Ah, Ron Paul has the single best record on the 2nd Amendment in Congress. Better than the NRA, in fact.

xexkxex
12-01-2007, 12:00 AM
I wonder why he passed this up...

American
12-01-2007, 12:01 AM
Yeah, I got the same email but I didnt post it. I forgot what this was about and how to title it.....=\

I send out allot of complaints, hard to keep track of them all.

I think this was for the gun show and that dude pope, but im not sure because that was about a booth wasnt it. Oh hell I forget.

BLS
12-01-2007, 12:05 AM
WTF...Ron didn't reply...or are they lying?

UtahApocalypse
12-01-2007, 12:06 AM
I would rather Ron Paul not sell out to the sell out NRA.

libertarian4321
12-01-2007, 12:29 AM
I'm a FORMER long-time member of the NRA.

I used to naively believe they stood for the 2nd amendment and would support the strongest pro-gun candidate.

Sadly, this isn't the case. They seem to take their marching orders from the RNC- and if that means supporting a gun grabbing Republican over a pro-gun Libertarian or Dem, then they will do so.

In this case, I'm sure the NRA will support one of the neocon "frontrunners" regardless of his weak stance on the 2nd amendment.

Jobarra
12-01-2007, 12:35 AM
Gun Owners of America (http://www.gunowners.org/) if you want an organization that is truly fighting for the 2nd Amendment.

Check out the quote at the top of the page for why he probably didn't go to the NRA.

That being said though, even if the organization doesn't support him, I do think ignoring them completely is worse than going and having them attack him. Any exposure is good exposure, especially when the organization will send out info to millions without the campaign doing anything.

brumans
12-01-2007, 12:37 AM
I'd like to know what the campaign is doing.. they are kind of pissing me off missing all these opportunities.

Richandler
12-01-2007, 12:44 AM
Seriously, you have to make a choice. Ron Paul is trying to get elected, gun control is not a major issue in this campaign at all. So choosing between a sit down interview with a newspaper, a speech for undecided voters or pandering to the NRA his best bet is the first 2 for the next 30 days before the end of the year.

Jobarra
12-01-2007, 12:51 AM
The second amendment was what got me originally interested in Ron Paul a few years ago. Don't be so quick to discount the gun owner vote just because gun control isn't a major issue this year. Especially when it has the potential to introduce millions to Ron Paul.

coffeewithchess
12-01-2007, 01:28 AM
WTF...Ron didn't reply...or are they lying?

It's not Ron...it's his campaign! HIS CAMPAIGN IS HORRIBLE! Whoever is in charge of media communication at HQ needs to be FIRED NOW!!!

Man from La Mancha
12-01-2007, 02:23 AM
Maybe Ron doesn't want to be associated with a group that aren't in line with his ideals. The NRA has supported gun control and Ron doesn't. I still can't walk into Wall mart and by a fully auto Mac 10 anywhere in the USA.




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jrich4rpaul
12-01-2007, 02:35 AM
The campaign needs to stop with the "We're too busy in Iowa" shit and start accepting all these invitations for more exposure. Period.

coffeewithchess
12-01-2007, 03:07 AM
The campaign needs to stop with the "We're too busy in Iowa" shit and start accepting all these invitations for more exposure. Period.

Exactly, Iowans watch TV too! For crying out loud the campaign will ruin us! Mike Huckabee is ALL OVER THE PLACE! He was on the Situation Room this week, then on Greta on Fox. Huckabee's campaign HQ is actively seeking out endorsements for him, while Ron Paul's HQ can't pick up the phone and get RP on Glenn Beck for an entire hour!

Minuteman
12-01-2007, 03:16 AM
I think you have to realize that most of the staff has only run elections on a small scale. They are new to a presidential campaign. I would like to see them hire a professional presidential campaign advisor/promotor.

JTCoyoté
12-01-2007, 03:23 AM
My friend received this from the NRA-ILA in response to an inquiry about Ron Paul. Please contact the campaign and let them know you hope they can find time for this.

The National rifle Association, in spite of Dr. Paul's spot less Second Amendment record, supported the Democrat rival against him in the last congressional election.

Knowing Dr. Paul's loyalty and sense of commitment ... I doubt the NRA will be hearing from him.

The National rifle Association is the father of gun-control by the way ... any of you who are NRA members, upon researching what I've just said, might consider getting out of the NRA and then join Ron Paul's favorite "the only no-nonsense gun lobby in Washington" the Gun Owners of America ... the main link is in my sign off ...

Ron Paul's GOA profile... http://gunowners.org/pres08/paul.htm

Gun Owners for Paul... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/gunowners/

Anyone who believes that firearms is a non-issue in this election, has not been paying attention... clicking around on the links above will affirm...

--Oldyoti

"Cliches about supporting the troops are designed
to distract from failed policies, policies promoted
by powerful special interests that benefit from war,
anything to steer the discussion away from the real
reasons the war in Iraq will not end anytime soon.."
~Ron Paul

LibertyEagle
12-01-2007, 03:26 AM
Seriously, you have to make a choice. Ron Paul is trying to get elected, gun control is not a major issue in this campaign at all. So choosing between a sit down interview with a newspaper, a speech for undecided voters or pandering to the NRA his best bet is the first 2 for the next 30 days before the end of the year.

No. His campaign could have provided a taped presentation, just as several of the others did. They didn't even do that.

This had nothing to do with whether Dr. Paul agreed, or didn't agree with the NRA. It was an opportunity to spread his message to some of the NRA MEMBERS! Just like Paul frequently says is the reason he appears on the Alex Jones show. He doesn't have to agree with AJ and frequently does not, but he does appear on his show to speak to the listeners. Neither do I imagine does Paul agree with Barbara Walters, but he IS going to appear on her show, The View.

No, with the case of the NRA, the campaign maintains that they did not get an invitation from them. I personally find this excuse getting rather old. I don't care if they need to hire 3 more people to stay on top of these media requests and display a little courtesy and respect at the very least and call them back. Even if it is to decline.

Way too many things are falling through their hands and it needs to stop.

Noleader
12-01-2007, 03:37 AM
Anyone think that it might be due to the fact that he is trying not to scare away some of the more liberal votes in NH along with some pro-gun control independents? I am happy he is focusing more on the abstract message then getting into the very focused and finite aspects of the message. The abstract message has a better chance of attracting more people without running anyone off in a state like NH.

Trust me... Democrats and some Independents don't want people to be able to buy a Mac 10 at the Walmart.

drdesignz
12-01-2007, 03:45 AM
It's not Ron...it's his campaign! HIS CAMPAIGN IS HORRIBLE! Whoever is in charge of media communication at HQ needs to be FIRED NOW!!!
I'm sure Ron Paul and the campaign are more aware of media opportunities than a bunch of random people on an internet forum. They are very busy and focused on a schedule. You can't do it all. If they pass up an opportunity it's for a reason. He's doing a lot better than everybody said he would, so if you ask me they're doing a pretty good job.

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coffeewithchess
12-01-2007, 04:03 AM
I'm sure Ron Paul and the campaign are more aware of media opportunities than a bunch of random people on an internet forum. They are very busy and focused on a schedule. You can't do it all. If they pass up an opportunity it's for a reason. He's doing a lot better than everybody said he would, so if you ask me they're doing a pretty good job. When I had a syndicated radio program tell me way back in May and June that they had contacted the campaign, but weren't getting any responses, I was thinking, "Okay, maybe the campaign needs more help" I kept hearing how the campaign was exploding and they didn't know what to do, so they hired more people...then in October, I went to the HQ in Arlington, VA and volunteered 4 hours while my family and I were "on vacation". During my 4 hours there, I was helping answer emails, the guys that were part of the staff that were supposed to be answering emails, seemed to be watching more YouTube videos of Ron Paul than answering emails...like someone said, if the campaign can go on the Alex Jones radio program multiple times, they can go on the other media outlets just the same.

JTCoyoté
12-01-2007, 04:05 AM
No. His campaign could have provided a taped presentation, just as several of the others did. They didn't even do that.

This had nothing to do with whether Dr. Paul agreed, or didn't agree with the NRA. It was an opportunity to spread his message to some of the NRA MEMBERS! Just like Paul frequently says is the reason he appears on the Alex Jones show. He doesn't have to agree with AJ and frequently does not, but he does appear on his show to speak to the listeners. Neither do I imagine does Paul agree with Barbara Walters, but he IS going to appear on her show, The View.

No, with the case of the NRA, the campaign maintains that they did not get an invitation from them. I personally find this excuse getting rather old. I don't care if they need to hire 3 more people to stay on top of these media requests and display a little courtesy and respect at the very least and call them back. Even if it is to decline.

Way too many things are falling through their hands and it needs to stop.

Dr. Paul appears on Alex's show for precisely the same reason why you can expect him not to appear before the NRA... it has to do with loyalty and commitment as I pointed out in my previous post.

Alex Jones has been a firebrand for Dr. Paul for the last 12 years ... ever since the good doctor re-entered the fray of national politics in 1995 ... Dr. Paul has appeared on Alex's show at least once a month during that 12 years... that is well over 120 appearances.

As to the ability of the campaign, If you guys have been paying attention... you will notice they're doing pretty darn good... They are not offending those who have offended them, and are taking care of those who have been loyal to Dr. Paul. With the Good Doctor at the helm the right choices and the right decisions are being made at every turn and will succeed in spite of your fears.

The WHO interview on Thursday with Jan Michelson, was botched because Dr. Paul as well as two other candidates were held up at the airport terminal. The only one who seemed to make it through was John McCain. I wish you guys would quit complaining and blaming the campaign, for homeland security's screwups.

--Oldyoti

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not democracy." ~Ron Paul

LibertyEagle
12-01-2007, 04:08 AM
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LibertyEagle
12-01-2007, 04:12 AM
With the Good Doctor at the helm the right choices and the right decisions are being made at every turn and will succeed in spite of your fears.



Please keep your condescension to yourself. The Good Doctor is way too busy to know what all the campaign staff are doing, or not doing. If he WAS running the show, I would not be concerned, but the reality is that he is NOT. He is entrusting the vast majority to people that were hired at the top.

As far as what you say you "pointed out".... BS! The campaign said that they did not receive an invitation. The NRA maintains that they sent one. Since I have heard this same thing on numerous occasions, I tend to believe that the campaign lost it. Furthermore, Dr. Paul has himself stated why he appears on the Alex Jones show and it had nothing to do with "loyalty". He said he goes where he is asked and at the time, Alex was the one asking him. Perhaps you do not believe Dr. Paul?

ClayTrainor
12-01-2007, 04:19 AM
yea... too many reports of ron pauls campaign not responding to offers.

This is bad.. i agree that someone needs to be fired... the campaign needs to at least give us a reason for all this silence and neglect?

coffeewithchess
12-01-2007, 04:22 AM
I seriously would not doubt if someone in the campaign is purposely ignoring and "losing" things...it just does not make any sense to pass up free media...this has been going on for MONTHS now.
I would be extremely happy if Ron Paul would announce that he is firing his campaign staff and is relying solely on the grassroots to win...

LibertyEagle
12-01-2007, 04:27 AM
I seriously would not doubt if someone in the campaign is purposely ignoring and "losing" things...it just does not make any sense to pass up free media...this has been going on for MONTHS now.
I would be extremely happy if Ron Paul would announce that he is firing his campaign staff and is relying solely on the grassroots to win...

For a long time, they were underfunded and overwhelmed. However now....

I don't agree with you though about firing his campaign staff and relying on the grassroots to win. Some things need organization to come off. If there is one thing the grassroots is not, it is organized. That doesn't mean though that the campaign might not benefit from some different hiring choices. For at least a couple of key positions, it seems to me that we need people that have experience in their job role and are not having to learn everything by the seat of their pants. The campaign could also use some of that organizational skill that the grassroots also lacks.

drdesignz
12-01-2007, 04:28 AM
I would be extremely happy if Ron Paul would announce that he is firing his campaign staff and is relying solely on the grassroots to win...
Even if they are doing a bad job (I think not), it's not that simple; not even possible.

coffeewithchess
12-01-2007, 04:34 AM
Even if they are doing a bad job (I think not), it's not that simple; not even possible.
Oh it's possible, just not probable. I don't think they are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a HORRENDOUS job!

mathamagician
12-01-2007, 04:47 AM
The campaign has grown a lot and it's obvious to me that they are experiencing logistics problems. It's evidenced by this as well as several other issues that have come up. I advocate emailing the official campaign and having them higher a professional top tier consultant to help manage the growth of this campaign (campaign consultant, PR consultant, marketing consultant, management consultant any of these would work).

Please email them if you are as concerned with this as I am.

LibertyEagle
12-01-2007, 04:48 AM
Spamming the campaign is not going to help the situation any.

drdesignz
12-01-2007, 04:56 AM
I would be extremely happy if Ron Paul would announce that he is firing his campaign staff and is relying solely on the grassroots to win...
Even if they are doing a bad job (I think not), it's not that simple; not even possible.
Oh it's possible, just not probable. I don't think they are doing a bad job, I think they are doing a HORRENDOUS job!
The grassroots is made up of many thousands of ordinary citizens with jobs, school, and other commitments. Regardless of how big the grassroots becomes, Ron Paul still needs a handful of people working for him full time. When somebody (i.e.: the media) wants to have Ron Paul as a guest on their show, who are they going to contact? I can assure you they will not look for a Ron Paul supporter and ask him/her to get on the internet and make a post on a forum asking somebody else to tell Ron Paul about the opportunity.

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Malakai0
12-01-2007, 05:14 AM
Maybe Ron doesn't want to be associated with a group that aren't in line with his ideals. The NRA has supported gun control and Ron doesn't. I still can't walk into Wall mart and by a fully auto Mac 10 anywhere in the USA.




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My guess is this is quite right.


You guys need to calm down!

Cyclone
12-01-2007, 05:19 AM
No. His campaign could have provided a taped presentation, just as several of the others did. They didn't even do that.

This had nothing to do with whether Dr. Paul agreed, or didn't agree with the NRA. It was an opportunity to spread his message to some of the NRA MEMBERS! Just like Paul frequently says is the reason he appears on the Alex Jones show. He doesn't have to agree with AJ and frequently does not, but he does appear on his show to speak to the listeners. Neither do I imagine does Paul agree with Barbara Walters, but he IS going to appear on her show, The View.

No, with the case of the NRA, the campaign maintains that they did not get an invitation from them. I personally find this excuse getting rather old. I don't care if they need to hire 3 more people to stay on top of these media requests and display a little courtesy and respect at the very least and call them back. Even if it is to decline.

Way too many things are falling through their hands and it needs to stop.

QFT.

If someone from the campaign is watching, would you folks please make a note of how many times we hear that some media outlet or another is trying to contact you and they don't even get a return call?

I am still mad that there has been no mention of Barry Goldwater Jr. supporting Ron Paul, but pimps at brothels are.

LBT
12-01-2007, 05:32 AM
I'm sure Ron Paul and the campaign are more aware of media opportunities than a bunch of random people on an internet forum. They are very busy and focused on a schedule. You can't do it all. If they pass up an opportunity it's for a reason. He's doing a lot better than everybody said he would, so if you ask me they're doing a pretty good job.


Sorry, they aren't doing a very good job when it comes to communicating with their no.1 client. That is, the grassroots who pay the bills.

This forum is the central communication area for activism and finding out what is going on. Others often report from here.

When some topic comes up, such as 'appearing on Glenn Beck' or 'NRA' where clearly many of us want some explanation, it would be smart of the campaign to provide a statement / clarification asap. But instead they seem to rely on whispers from insiders spreading like gossip.

They ought to set up a Grassroots release section on their website where they can post statements about issues that are aggravating the grassroots.

Then, if they are incompetent it will be obvious. Maybe that's what they are scared of. But by being transparent they will earn the respect and understanding of the grassroots.

If the feeling spreads that the campaign doesn't manage itself or the donations wisely, then the game is half over. They need a new communications approach to deal with their no.1 clients.

And it would appear that they need a new person in charge of media communications. If that is wrong, then they ought to be able to explain why things seem so bad.

JTCoyoté
12-01-2007, 12:40 PM
Please keep your condescension to yourself. The Good Doctor is way too busy to know what all the campaign staff are doing, or not doing. If he WAS running the show, I would not be concerned, but the reality is that he is NOT. He is entrusting the vast majority to people that were hired at the top.

As far as what you say you "pointed out".... BS! The campaign said that they did not receive an invitation. The NRA maintains that they sent one. Since I have heard this same thing on numerous occasions, I tend to believe that the campaign lost it. Furthermore, Dr. Paul has himself stated why he appears on the Alex Jones show and it had nothing to do with "loyalty". He said he goes where he is asked and at the time, Alex was the one asking him. Perhaps you do not believe Dr. Paul?

I believe the campaign... and Dr. Paul's loyalty is implied by this continued appearance each month with Alex as he has for 12 years... whether they agree with one another on every point, or whether Alex is the one asking for Paul to appear or not, is irrelevant, the fact that he always appears on the show speaks volumes. In addition, if Paul is otherwise occupied during a scheduled appearance he will inform and reschedule. Alex is always gracious and respectful of the good doctor and his schedule... others like Jan Michelson the other day, use it to take a poke...

The fact that the NRA has not supported Ron Paul, and blatantly so in his last congressional election by putting their support behind his opposition who has a spotty, if any 2nd Amendment record at all ... This leaves one pause to consider the possibility that the National rifle Association is once again lying ... as I believe they are.

So in all cases provable, I believe Dr. Paul because the facts bear him out, also, because of this, in cases that are "he said she said" or unprovable, I will believe him then as well.

As for your inference of condescension on my part ... not so, 'twas merely reproof.

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not democracy." ~Ron Paul

ColinCohen
12-01-2007, 01:10 PM
The NRA once supported a Democrat over Paul. That should tell you how they feel about him. The fact is no lobbying organization (regardless of their stripe) likes Paul, because he can't be bought, and hence can't be told what to do.

NewEnd
12-01-2007, 01:19 PM
Spamming the campaign is not going to help the situation any.


QFT

DO NOT EMAIL THE CAMPAIGN

They do not need to be barraged with a bunch of emails, over anything. TIme and time again peopel keep advocating spamming HQ for their little pet ideas, and it is hurtful, not helpful.

Frankie Lee
12-01-2007, 01:19 PM
The grassroots is made up of many thousands of ordinary citizens with jobs, school, and other commitments. Regardless of how big the grassroots becomes, Ron Paul still needs a handful of people working for him full time. When somebody (i.e.: the media) wants to have Ron Paul as a guest on their show, who are they going to contact? I can assure you they will not look for a Ron Paul supporter and ask him/her to get on the internet and make a post on a forum asking somebody else to tell Ron Paul about the opportunity.

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Seems that would get to him faster than what his campaign is doing now...

coffeewithchess
12-01-2007, 01:50 PM
The grassroots is made up of many thousands of ordinary citizens with jobs, school, and other commitments. Regardless of how big the grassroots becomes, Ron Paul still needs a handful of people working for him full time. When somebody (i.e.: the media) wants to have Ron Paul as a guest on their show, who are they going to contact? I can assure you they will not look for a Ron Paul supporter and ask him/her to get on the internet and make a post on a forum asking somebody else to tell Ron Paul about the opportunity. Glenn Beck did basically this very thing...watch the video for yourself...http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZrwQXwL60D4, if that isn't Glenn Beck asking the grassroots to get the campaign to do its' job, I don't know what is! There is absolutely no excuse for the campaign to be ignoring this opportunity.

JTCoyoté
12-02-2007, 02:47 AM
The NRA once supported a Democrat over Paul. That should tell you how they feel about him. The fact is no lobbying organization (regardless of their stripe) likes Paul, because he can't be bought, and hence can't be told what to do.

Yes, just over one year ago... here is an article from November 1st 2006, 5 days before the election... read the whole thing, it is very enlightening... http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2006/11/fix-is-in-ron-paul-must-go.html

Here is another article that shows the bad blood between them. Dr. Paul sees clearly the NRA's incremental "shill" approach to gun elimination... http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32236 ...


This summer, Dr. Paul voted against the horrible NRA endorsed HR-2640... He was the lone dissenter... This is a draconian bill since it will classify over 20 million American people as "mentally ill" and curtail their 2nd Amendment right... all because of the hysteria after Virginia Tech.

--Oldyoti

"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance;
they are the Peoples' Liberty's Teeth." - George Washington

JTCoyoté
12-02-2007, 03:11 AM
Glenn Beck did basically this very thing...watch the video for yourself...http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZrwQXwL60D4, if that isn't Glenn Beck asking the grassroots to get the campaign to do its' job, I don't know what is! There is absolutely no excuse for the campaign to be ignoring this opportunity.

Read what TN has to say... both vids are there... and you can comment...

http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1061

--Oldyoti

"The legal right of the taxpayer to decrease the amount
of what otherwise would be his taxes or altogether
avoid them by means which the law permits,
cannot be doubted."
~Gregory v. Helvering, 293 U.S. 465