You’d Have Better Luck Converting Them to Become Jehovah’s Witnesses

[nbruno322]

"It’s estimated that around 47% of Americans are already receiving government benefits in some way.

Here is 3 minute video on what Judge Napolitano says about the situation.

But I believe 47% is not an accurate reflection of the situation.

We also need to consider all government employees as well as those in the nominally private sector who make a living off of the warfare state—like defense and other government contractors who win huge no-bid contracts.

Those involved in the military industrial complex are living off slops at the government trough just as much, if not more than those who collect food stamps and other traditional forms of welfare. Yet they aren’t counted in the statistics. So we need to include them to get a more complete picture of who is financially dependent on the government.

Anyone who exists off of political dollars instead of free-market dollars should be counted.

When these people are included, we’re well north of 50% of the American population (a solid majority and growing) that’s financially dependent on the government in some form.

This means the US has crossed the Rubicon."

Continued... (http://www.internationalman.com/articles/youd-have-better-luck-converting-them-to-become-jehovahs-witnesses)

[Suzanimal]

This built-in majority of welfare recipients and government employees guarantees that there will be a solid voting block to continue—and accelerate—these policies. It would be foolish to assume that a meaningful number of these people would vote to stop the government from giving them benefits or otherwise vote to break their own rice bowls.

The notion that a significant number of people living off of government largesse will be brought around to an individualist or libertarian way of thinking is a pipe dream.

I hate to say it but I feel this way more and more.

[tod evans]

Truth!

[donnay]

Truth!

Absolutely!

[jclay2]

Unfortunately, the plan is being executed flawlessly. There will be no chance for true societal reform when 2/3 believe their livelihood and economic well being is sourced from the government. The only hope that we really have is for the economy to grow enough in the long term that a substandard welfare living can be paid for by the 20% of remaining productive workers in the US.

[nbruno322]

Unfortunately, the plan is being executed flawlessly. There will be no chance for true societal reform when 2/3 believe their livelihood and economic well being is sourced from the government. The only hope that we really have is for the economy to grow enough in the long term that a substandard welfare living can be paid for by the 20% of remaining productive workers in the US.

Or the entire thing collapses and libertarian minded individuals can rebuild. But in order for libertarians to be in such a position, they must find a way to protect themselves from an economic collapse.

[Voluntarist]

xxxxx

[Brett85]

A big part of that 47% would be retired people who receive Social Security and Medicare, people who have paid into those programs their entire lives. These are people who aren't necessarily liberal and aren't necessarily supporters of big government programs in general.

[jclay2]

A big part of that 47% would be retired people who receive Social Security and Medicare, people who have paid into those programs their entire lives. These are people who aren't necessarily liberal and aren't necessarily supporters of big government programs in general.

But they will fight tooth and nail to keep these programs in place. I don't necessarily blame them, but they have to at least recognize the whole system as a ponzi and divide up the crumbs like adults instead of spoiled brats.

[acptulsa]

The key is the 1920s. Huge amounts of government were exorcised in the first years of that decade, the private sector grew like weeds starting pretty much instantly, and everyone's standard of living improved dramatically.

[tod evans]

Or the entire thing collapses and libertarian minded individuals can rebuild. But in order for libertarians to be in such a position, they must find a way to protect themselves from an economic collapse.

FRN's and "stocks" are going to take a beating.

Land and the equipment to tend it as well as knowledge and tools will permit rebuilding.