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Minuteman
11-30-2007, 11:13 PM
It saddens me to see so many blame one of our own knowing the hardships we face without creating ones for ourselves. I applaud you Trevor in all that you have done and still plan to do to help us reach our goals.

I also applaud everyone of you. It is a hard thing to stand firm in the face of adversity. Lets just all remember, we are all on the same ship.

I for one found today a great thing. In so short a time to raise what we did. We still have a long road to hoe and infighting will only cause us to go backwards. If you must critisize. Do so in a constructive manner and move on. This constant harping gets us nowhere.

me3
11-30-2007, 11:15 PM
Trevor has done a great job, not a perfect job, but probably much better than the backseat drivers would in his situation.

Thank you very much. It means so much to us to be able to come together and do things for the campaign, and to all of the people like RonPaulForums staff and Trevor who provide channels for us to direct our efforts.

tonyTheBest
11-30-2007, 11:17 PM
Trevor is the man

Doriath
11-30-2007, 11:18 PM
Trevor has done a great job, not a perfect job, but probably much better than the backseat drivers would in his situation.

x2. All I know is that if someone raised $500k for me I wouldnt have any cause to complain.

MarcS
11-30-2007, 11:20 PM
just remember, if we "failed" so spectacularly every day this quarter we'd have $30,000,000 by this point.

Original_Intent
11-30-2007, 11:21 PM
I have always and continue to say Trevor is the man! He has done an outstanding job and whatever minor mistakes he has made pale to insignificance compared to his contributions!

BlCkDeAtH
11-30-2007, 11:23 PM
Because of Trever and November 5th, nobody can deny our strength. "If not you, then who? If not now, then when?" Trever stepped up, and now it's easier for us to recruit people. Can Ron Paul win? is no longer a question we struggle to answer.

This grassroots is something everyone will try to emulate and copy, as they should. Trever is just one example of all of Ron Paul's supporter's (think Lord Xar, Lleperd, and everyone with a sticker on their car, talking to their friends). Seriously think about how committed we are to Ron Paul's message? Really amazing...

aspiringconstitutionalist
11-30-2007, 11:23 PM
If Ron Paul wins the nomination, Trevor could probably rightfully claim (without opposition from me) that if it wasn't for him, it would have never happened.

paulgirl
11-30-2007, 11:25 PM
Trevor for veep!

werdd
11-30-2007, 11:26 PM
way to go Trevor(my names trevor too thats cool) we beat rudys q3 goal and thats what we set out to do, 500k is no small feat, just wait for the 16th

ursamajor
11-30-2007, 11:28 PM
Trevor is certainly a patriot. This stuff is complicated. the Tea Party is still going to rock this campaign.

NinjaPirate
11-30-2007, 11:29 PM
If Ron Paul wins the nomination, Trevor could probably rightfully claim (without opposition from me) that if it wasn't for him, it would have never happened.

It's a team effort, actually. We think up of ideas and Trevor executes them (and earns time in the spotlight as a result :D), so we ALL deserve a pat on the back.

Trevor you da man!

me3
11-30-2007, 11:37 PM
Trevor deserves support simply for putting up with the criticism and still trying to deliver results for his end of the events.

No matter what decision he makes, it will be unpopular with some folks. But he puts up with it and carries on. That's why he deserves support.

Heather in WI
11-30-2007, 11:38 PM
Woo-hoo for Trevor from me. :-0

Liberty Star
11-30-2007, 11:40 PM
This is a campaign success that would be studied by present day and future observers. Congrats to Trevor and each and everyone who are organizers behind money bomb, this forum, great Ron Paul site with unique measurement concepts, ron paul graphs and all the other innovative ideas by Ron Paul supporters.


Great job by all those who have made this such a success story. Biggest winner in the end would be preservation of liberties for all of us.

Onwards to the Tea Party.

LukeNM
11-30-2007, 11:42 PM
Trevor when Ron Paul invites you to the WHITE HOUSE to visit after he is elected President of the United States of America you better be sure to tell us what it was like!

Original_Intent
11-30-2007, 11:43 PM
Trevor deserves our support and a place in history when people look back on Ron Paul's revolutionary rise to the presidency.

loupeznik
11-30-2007, 11:44 PM
Here is some support.:D

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419Uw%2B2b0HL._AA280_.jpg

A word to the wise: Don't ever look up "jockstrap" on Yahoo images.

undergroundrr
11-30-2007, 11:45 PM
Trevor is not perfect. He's just the greatest political fundraiser who ever lived. Let's have some more of that kind of imperfection. Now who's going to do to votes what Trevor has done for money?

tomaO2
11-30-2007, 11:46 PM
It was more then just Trevor that made the Moneybomb work on Nov 5th.

Still, of course, it was a great job and I thank him but the media has him squarely in their sights. He has GOT to learn to be a bit more savy. It's great he does these things but he has to be careful with what he says because the MSN will use that to hurt us. There are money grenade days which rake in hundreds of thousands of dollars and there are money bomb days which rake in millions.

He just needs to keep in mind the difference. That's all I ask.

xexkxex
11-30-2007, 11:46 PM
Thank you Trevor for all that you have done.

We all truly appreciate it. Thanks.

Also....Thanks to all of us for all that we have done.

Ron Paul, I'm sure, truly appreciates it.

We are all supporters and all deserve equal praise.

-Charles-

CelestialRender
12-01-2007, 12:05 AM
I don't think Trevor's perfect, or the symbol of the revolution or anything...

but he's a good guy, trying to get things done. The amount of Trevor hate on this forum needs to seriously decline. It's getting ridiculous, in a lot of threads these days.

UtahApocalypse
12-01-2007, 12:18 AM
I personally have been upset at everyone that put Trevor down over today's money bomb. Weather it was for planning it before the teaparty, or for giving the media a high figure to shoot for. I think Trevor did exactaly what the campaign asked, they wanted more money and they wanted it now. He stepped up, tried to pull support for Nov. 30th right out from his Teaparty plan. He didnt care if it meant less donation then, he wants to get Ron Paul elected and thats why he made changes. Trvor, you are a patriotic hero. Those who have doubted you, or refused to help today when needed just don't get it. At least you do.

Benaiah
12-01-2007, 12:28 AM
I wish that Trevor would follow the wishes of 80% of people who want TeaParty07.com to be used for the Tea Party only.

That said, I've never attacked him personally and I don't like it when I see others do it. Like a previous poster said, use constructive criticism, but lets not personally attack each other. Contrarily, if somebody doesn't like the way Trevor (or anyone) is handling something, so they make their own website, we shouldn't attack them either.

We need to discuss things and to have constructive criticism, that way the "best" ideas come to fruition. But using harsh words or attacking a persons' character isn't good.

JimDude
12-01-2007, 12:35 AM
Is the same tactics the neo-cons use. Whenever Bush invaded a country or violated our civil liberties. The neo-cons said, how about a little support for Bush? Obviously, this is unhealthy, and we should always remain vigilant and critical of anything.


Trevor made a good idea, but thats usually what you can expect from a person. Obviously, the dangerous thing to do is to give too much control to Trevor, like they did with bush. There are many good people among us, many who might just have some good or better ideas.
booga booga

Bryan
12-01-2007, 12:41 AM
Trevor's done an outstanding job! On the personal attacks, keep in mind that they are not allowed on the forum per the guidelines- just flag them with this icon on the right: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/gfx_RedWhiteBlue/buttons/report.gif


Trevor when Ron Paul invites you to the WHITE HOUSE to visit after he is elected President of the United States of America you better be sure to tell us what it was like!
Luke- I'm going with that after Dr. Paul gets in the White House we're ALL going to get invited for one big party there-- my guess is that we'll end up trashing the lawn good! :p:):D

http://files.meetup.com/506027/whitehouse.jpg

Thunderbolt
12-01-2007, 12:44 AM
I wish that Trevor would follow the wishes of 80% of people who want TeaParty07.com to be used for the Tea Party only.

That said, I've never attacked him personally and I don't like it when I see others do it. Like a previous poster said, use constructive criticism, but lets not personally attack each other. Contrarily, if somebody doesn't like the way Trevor (or anyone) is handling something, so they make their own website, we shouldn't attack them either.

We need to discuss things and to have constructive criticism, that way the "best" ideas come to fruition. But using harsh words or attacking a persons' character isn't good.

Agreed,
But it would be nice if someone would listen to the wishes of the 80% of us who don't want to see things like this quoted

"The Internet-based grass-roots community that coalesced around Paulís candidacy might not have as much giving power as the first money bomb suggested, or it might be losing enthusiasm or fracturing."

Also, Trevor decided to call just about every paper in the country to announce today's huge expected haul. I think those actions hurt us, so I do not support the actions.

I don't know Trevor at all, so it is hard for me to support him personally. I do know what he has written on this forum, promises he has made and broken, and the great deal of damage we will have to deal with in the next few weeks.

We went from having a partially electable candidate after Nov. 5, which by the way was a joint effort among thousands of people, to having a candidate that was not talked about at all because Ron Paul's campaign hasn't pushed for any interviews or taken advantage of endorsements, to now having a candidate that is not electable at all because his grass roots support has disappeared.

Hopefully we will be able to fix that on Dec. 16, but in between we have a lot of damage to undo.

shrapnel88
12-01-2007, 12:45 AM
trevor,

you have done so much for this campaign. you're the money bomb engineer. when ron wins, you'll know you had a hand in changing the world!

Mark Mosconi
12-01-2007, 12:45 AM
Trevor is just a ron paul supporter like the rest of us. It takes ALL OF US to make a difference in this campaign, and everything that anyone does for a positive impact is of value. I hope the rest of us are not just sitting back and allowing it to occur. We all need to be leaders and go out into our own communities and continue to hand out fliers, post up signs, talk to people about ron paul, etc.

Trevor helped to bring about a great thing on November 5th, and it looks like December 16th will also be great, but it takes all of us to make it work. That's basically the definition of grassroots. Many people on their own coming together for a common goal. It's a beautiful thing.

VicVixvi
12-01-2007, 12:59 AM
There is no such thing as "bad publicity" except your own obituary. -Brendan Behan

Bryan
12-01-2007, 01:02 AM
We went from having a partially electable candidate after Nov. 5, which by the way was a joint effort among thousands of people, to having a candidate that was not talked about at all because Ron Paul's campaign hasn't pushed for any interviews or taken advantage of endorsements, to now having a candidate that is not electable at all because his grass roots support has disappeared.

Hopefully we will be able to fix that on Dec. 16, but in between we have a lot of damage to undo.
The plus side is that every bit of media exposure helps with name recognition which is still critical. So the media reports from today are good. We'll see how things shake out over the weekend but on 11/5 we had a goal of $10M and got less than half- a $500,000+ day is nothing to be too disappointed in. We'll see... :)



Trevor is just a ron paul supporter like the rest of us. It takes ALL OF US to make a difference in this campaign, and everything that anyone does for a positive impact is of value. I hope the rest of us are not just sitting back and allowing it to occur. We all need to be leaders and go out into our own communities and continue to hand out fliers, post up signs, talk to people about ron paul, etc.

Trevor helped to bring about a great thing on November 5th, and it looks like December 16th will also be great, but it takes all of us to make it work. That's basically the definition of grassroots. Many people on their own coming together for a common goal. It's a beautiful thing.
Well said.

WachterZ
12-01-2007, 01:12 AM
When you look at Trevor for what he has done, the only possible response for me is to be thankful for his ability to channel our collective energy and focus our ideas into action.

And if you disagree, that's fine -- but keep the love in revolution, we can disagree without attacking each other.

RonPaulFTFW
12-01-2007, 01:33 AM
we must stay strong and UNITED.

ron paul is the reason for the seaon.

tropicangela
12-01-2007, 01:34 AM
I thank all of you!

MarcS
12-01-2007, 01:44 AM
We went from having a partially electable candidate after Nov. 5, which by the way was a joint effort among thousands of people, to having a candidate that was not talked about at all because Ron Paul's campaign hasn't pushed for any interviews or taken advantage of endorsements, to now having a candidate that is not electable at all because his grass roots support has disappeared.

Hopefully we will be able to fix that on Dec. 16, but in between we have a lot of damage to undo.

You know what? PROVE IT! Where's the damage? Where the MSM saying these things other than in your head?

I did a google news search on ron paul, the only story i found about todays fundraising was positive and there was no mention from the MSM sources

http://www.casinogamblingweb.com/gambling-news/casino-gambling/ron_paul_raises_half_a_million_dollars_in_one_day_ again_47827.html
http://www.nolanchart.com/article344.html
http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=182537

The only remotely negative article i found was that one piece from the politico (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/7119.html), which wasn't really negative. They said there were disputes among his supporters but we still raised "a one-day tally most campaigns would drool over"...that's pretty accurate, but, once again, no MSM coverage.

CNN, no mention
Fox, no mention
MSNBC, no mention

So, enough "sky is falling" bullshit.

me3
12-01-2007, 02:04 AM
The MSM coverage is not going to come until Monday or Tuesday when the campaign does a presser about the (sic) top tier candidates 3Q totals being exceeded.

Defeatism isn't compatible with the Revolution. Onward and upward.

MarcS
12-01-2007, 02:08 AM
The MSM coverage is not going to come until Monday or Tuesday when the campaign does a presser about the (sic) top tier candidates 3Q totals being exceeded.

Defeatism isn't compatible with the Revolution. Onward and upward.

big +1. The only negativity is coming from our own people

Rhys
12-01-2007, 03:23 AM
The more times Trevor gets interviewed, the more times we know we'll get a good quote in the paper. The market's picked a good fundraising spokesman, the way I see it.

gmlogmd08
12-01-2007, 03:30 AM
Just like to echo the majority's testimony in this thread. Nov. 5 is a concerted effort and everybody that contributed to its success should be commended and thanked for. Special thanks go to Trevor and his cohorts for sharing their time and talent in organizing various online grassroots projects such as this. Though yesterday's moneybomb didn't meet its announced goals, raising $500K+ in a 24-hour period is no simple feat. The MSM can twist this however they want, but the fact is, Ron Paul's campaign is half a million richer that could be used NOW for spreading the message of truth, liberty and peace.

zcopley
12-01-2007, 03:42 AM
Trevor has done a great job! Has been a great money bomb manager. The tactical mistake (if any) was on the part of the campaign -- attempting to influence/manage the grass roots at the last minute. The campaign needs to communicate with us early and often if it wants us to deliver up cash by or before a particular date, rather than try to redirect our momentum once we have something in motion (Dec 16th). Trevor just made the best of a bad situation. The campaign said don't do that--do this, which deflated things. it almost felt like a punch in the stomach to me.

deedles
12-01-2007, 05:10 AM
Thank you, Trevor! You are doing a great job... !

Thomas Paine
12-01-2007, 06:03 AM
Before I became an attorney, I was a congressional campaign manager for a current Michigan GOP congressman. I am amazed that some people would bitch and whine about the way Trevor supposedly handled the November 30th fundraiser moneybomb. Raising over $500,000 is nothing to get upset about. If someone else can do a better job at raising over $500,000 under these circumstances, than quit whining and step up to the plate and prove that you can do a better job.

Great job, Trevor!

realist
12-01-2007, 08:52 AM
First time poster here-

I routinely vote but have NEVER contributed directly to a presidential campaign. I am interested in many of Dr. Paul's ideas but honestly, I'm still keeping an open mind and am thus, undecided. I am tuning in to hear and learn more, and I suspect many "undecided's" are doing the same.

I was motivated to give to this campaign for many reasons, including Trevors publicity. I understand how common and frustrating it can be to have a "broad brush" of folks work towards something only to have credit doled out with a finer brush. That shouldn't minimize the significance of Trevor, his efforts, or the publicity benefits to this campaign. They are real in my and many other cases.


Trevor- thanks for everything you do and keep your chin up. That goes for all you fine folks too. Keep your eye on the real goal and don't let the little distractions change your trajectory. It's unfortunate that this nomination run isn't taking place on a level field but it's all the more reason to make sure everyone's "lifting" the platform and not weighing it down.

ape
12-01-2007, 09:05 AM
you're doing a good job trevor.


I can't believe the detractors of the 30th didn't even donate 5 bucks to the Paul campaign. " I'm saving my money for the 16th " shouldn't even apply when it's just 5 bucks.

Pete
12-01-2007, 11:42 AM
Trevor has done very well, and has added tact and diplomacy to the qualities that we are grateful for.

Everything has worked out fine. The $10m has sparked media interest, and even the quibbling about the donation dates reflects well on the grassroots campaign. 'PEOPLE have a VOICE' is a hell of a message.

literatim
12-01-2007, 12:38 PM
What has Trevor actually done? He didn't come up with the idea of November 5th nor December 16th. He did come up with November 30th without any consultation from the community here and then he released the ridiculous $2.5 million to the press.

me3
12-01-2007, 12:51 PM
What has Trevor actually done? He didn't come up with the idea of November 5th nor December 16th. He did come up with November 30th without any consultation from the community here and then he released the ridiculous $2.5 million to the press.
He worked on getting the website up.
He did numerous interviews to promote 11/30 and 12/16.
He put up with all of your criticisms and flack.

What did you do?

Nyte
12-01-2007, 12:55 PM
He worked on getting the website up.
He did numerous interviews to promote 11/30 and 12/16.
He put up with all of your criticisms and flack.

What did you do?

Word.

Trevor is a hero of this community.

Yeah, the $12 million goal for Nov 5th wasn't such a good idea in hindsight. I'm sure it's not a mistake he'll repeat.

steph3n
12-01-2007, 12:56 PM
What has Trevor actually done? He didn't come up with the idea of November 5th nor December 16th. He did come up with November 30th without any consultation from the community here and then he released the ridiculous $2.5 million to the press.

let it rest sleepyhead, you wake up on the wrong side of the bed every day :D

dontdrinkthewater
12-01-2007, 01:18 PM
I'm new to this whole forum thing. I've read though allot of the post on here, wow !!! the amount of negative posts actually surprised me. mostly directed at this Trevor fella. from what i can see all he did was step up and try his best to raise some money for Ron Paul. i don't see to many others doing the same. i can't see dogging a guy out for trying, i couldn't do what he's done. don't have the resources, the time, or the knowledge to even begin to do what he's accomplished. i certainly hope he doesn't give up because of the nay sayers. as far as the 30th is considered, so what, we didn't get exactly what we wanted . what matters the most the battles, or the war its self. i refuse to give up, i may not have Trevor's abilities but i am willing to make sacrifices, i donated on the 30th because i was asked to for the cause and I'll do it again on the 16th, so what i don't go out to eat, just get the things i absolutely need, instead of going to the pub with friends ask them over for the night ( cheaper and safer ) . if you believe in a cause strong enough sacrifices mean nothing.

MarcS
12-01-2007, 01:28 PM
What has Trevor actually done? He didn't come up with the idea of November 5th nor December 16th. He did come up with November 30th without any consultation from the community here and then he released the ridiculous $2.5 million to the press.

Add what was the result other than the community pushed harder than ever, getting more donations per subscription than any other moneybomb?

I've seen zero bad press, in fact, andrew sullivan just stated on the atlantic "The Ron Paul wing(s) of the Republican Party are now irreversibly present in GOP politics"

1000-points-of-fright
12-01-2007, 01:33 PM
What has Trevor actually done? He didn't come up with the idea of November 5th nor December 16th. He did come up with November 30th without any consultation from the community here and then he released the ridiculous $2.5 million to the press.

He didn't come up with the original idea. So what? He took the idea and made it happen instead of waiting around to see if someone else would do it. Ideas are nothing without action.

I didn't come up with the idea of running a mosaic add for the Iowa straw poll, but I came up with the idea of superimposing the mosaic over the constitution. Lord Xar refined that idea into the final piece. You don't see me bitching about him stealing my idea. It's called collaboration. Everybody needs to quit being so petty.

mosquitobite
12-01-2007, 01:37 PM
I think I'm going to name my first born son Trevor :D

philistineau
12-01-2007, 01:38 PM
Trevor - you are first amongst equals!

GREAT WORK!!!

Cheers,

Phil

JohnnyWrath
12-01-2007, 03:01 PM
The news is reporting that Trevor is using all the emails he is collecting to start his own business.

If he is the best man for the job, then I guess he is the best man for the job, I just wish it were someone without alternative motives....just my opinion.

Some Jamie guy on youtube came up with the November 5th idea I think...and the reason the 5th site Trevor made got so many hits is because the "army" went viral all over the internet sending people there....the site wasn't really even advertised all that much aside from us here, and Ron Paul supporters elsewhere online.

It doesn't matter at all who makes the tea party site....either we as supporters get people there and make the site known, or it fails. ....so let's get people there.

I guess other candidates running for various offices have approached him and asked him to fundraise for them, but I doubt without the Ron Paul army he will ever achieve the same results.

Sorry, just my opinions....kind of negative I realize, but it's what I think.

James R
12-01-2007, 09:16 PM
It saddens me to see so many blame one of our own knowing the hardships we face without creating ones for ourselves. I applaud you Trevor in all that you have done and still plan to do to help us reach our goals.

I also applaud everyone of you. It is a hard thing to stand firm in the face of adversity. Lets just all remember, we are all on the same ship.

I for one found today a great thing. In so short a time to raise what we did. We still have a long road to hoe and infighting will only cause us to go backwards. If you must critisize. Do so in a constructive manner and move on. This constant harping gets us nowhere.

Trevor has never done a good job. I don't support him. However, I cannot complain to much because my only valid way to complain was to show some leadership myself. I have not done that yet. Hopefully I will improve.

How has Trevor done a bad job? Firstly, he asks what we think of his ideas only after he has decided to do them. That is perhaps the worst thing a leader can do. He does leave many minor decisions to us, but he makes the major decisions without consulting. Secondly, he pays little attention to the important facts, such as when he set a 10 million goal for Nov 5th and 2.5 million for Nov 30th. The only realistic goal he set was $10 million on Dec 16th. Also, he simply assumes that GoDaddy is a good website host. He never publicly asked us which host was the best option. Another major decision we were never consulted on. I will do everything I can to work with other website developers to make sure someone else is in charge of the next big one-day event.

me3
12-01-2007, 09:36 PM
However, I cannot complain to much because my only valid way to complain was to show some leadership myself. I have not done that yet. Hopefully I will improve.
That pretty much says it all brother.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

TechnoGuyRob
12-01-2007, 09:44 PM
Trevor FTW. :D

fireinme
12-01-2007, 10:09 PM
Thank you Trevor and to all the Ron Paul supporters.

bunklocoempire
12-02-2007, 05:15 AM
What did you do?

BINGO! Thanks Trevor and thanks to all. I'm poorer and happier because of it! DEC 16th!!!!!!!!!! Here we come!!

rodent
12-02-2007, 05:57 AM
The news is reporting that Trevor is using all the emails he is collecting to start his own business.

If he is the best man for the job, then I guess he is the best man for the job, I just wish it were someone without alternative motives....just my opinion.

Some Jamie guy on youtube came up with the November 5th idea I think...and the reason the 5th site Trevor made got so many hits is because the "army" went viral all over the internet sending people there....the site wasn't really even advertised all that much aside from us here, and Ron Paul supporters elsewhere online.

It doesn't matter at all who makes the tea party site....either we as supporters get people there and make the site known, or it fails. ....so let's get people there.

I guess other candidates running for various offices have approached him and asked him to fundraise for them, but I doubt without the Ron Paul army he will ever achieve the same results.

Sorry, just my opinions....kind of negative I realize, but it's what I think.

I think he just wants to build an infrastructure for raising funds for the future Ron Paul Republicans in America. I don't think he'll abuse those e-mail addresses. I hope he just asks us if we want to opt in.

Don't fault this guy until he really does something bad. So far, he's done a lot of good things.