Looking for articles, radio shows, etc. in response to Bundy's remarks

[Deborah K]

I saw something from World Net Daily, something from a black author, a black militia guy, AJ's show, Lew Rockwell, etc. earlier in this thread. Can I get help getting all of these together so we can use them in his defense?

[phill4paul]

Debra, I would start with the patriot on his personal body guard staff that might be identified as a "B.AA.N.C." THAT individual would do more damage with words than with bullets at this time.

[Deborah K]

Debra, I would start with the patriot on his personal body guard staff that might be identified as a "B.AA.N.C." THAT individual would do more damage with words than with bullets at this time.

Who did he interview with? Do you know?

[William Tell]

Who did he interview with? Do you know?

Alex Jones.

[Lucille]

For Progressives, “Thoughtcrime” is Worse than Mass Murder
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/for-progressives-thoughtcrime-is-worse-than-mass-murder/

[Lucille]

HOAX EXPOSED: Full Clip Of Cliven Bundy’s Non-Racist, Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican, Anti-Government Remarks Vs. NYTimes’ Deceptively Edited Version
Read more at http://patdollard.com/2014/04/shock-hoax-exposed-full-clip-of-cliven-bundys-non-racist-pro-black-anti-government-remarks-vs-media-matters-deceptively-edited-hoax-version-see-that-cliven-bundy-is-actually-an-advocat/#WTFxk20QrSj61FVK.99

[Deborah K]

Grigg nailed it already:

For Progressives, “Thoughtcrime” is Worse than Mass Murder
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?450504-Will-Grigg-For-Progressives-Bundy-s-%93Thoughtcrime%94-is-Worse-than-Mass-Murder
Cliven Bundy, among others, can testify that Regime-oriented journalism operates in a very similar fashion: Have a reporter from the New York Times shadow a 67-year-old Mormon rancher from southeastern Nevada long enough, and eventually the subject will say something that offends current sensibilities about race. To be specific, Bundy used retrograde racial terminology in musing aloud about the damage done to the black family by the Welfare State—which he suggested might be as evil, in some ways, as the odious institution of chattel slavery.

Mr. Bundy is unusually media-savvy for a rancher, but he doesn’t speak in sound-bites. He wasn’t lamenting the fact that black Americans are no longer required to pick cotton for other people who supposedly “own” them, but that the modern welfare state has cultivated dependency, undermined the family, and helped to bring about both the a stratospherically high incarceration rate for black men and a shockingly high abortion rate for black unborn children (a development he wouldn’t lament if he genuinely hated black people).





Thank you, Lucille. <3

http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/for-progressives-thoughtcrime-is-worse-than-mass-murder/

[Deborah K]

http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/ammon-bundy-n-y-times-quote-out-of-context/


Bundy's son: N.Y. Times quote 'out of context'



A comment by embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy about blacks and slavery was taken out of context by the New York Times, according to Bundy’s son, Ammon Bundy, who told WND in an interview Thursday his father was trying to reach out to the black and Hispanic communities.

“They took what they wanted. They knew when they were there his comments were not racist. He wasn’t able to completely articulate,” Ammon Bundy told WND. “That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.”

The Times, in a report by Adam Nagourney, said Cliven Bundy, in a daily meeting Saturday with reporters and photographers covering his case, made the comments that critics are calling racist.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/ammon-bundy-n-y-times-quote-out-of-context/#7oeBtsLLSoDI7fXx.99

[Deborah K]

http://therightscoop.com/breaking-cliven-bundy-responds-to-charges-of-racism-the-statement-was-right/

[Deborah K]

A black man (Uncle Tom :)) defends Cliven Bundy:


Let us break this down rationally shall we?

1. They abort their young children True or False? Highest rate of abortion among ethnic groups in USA.

2. they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. Translation from a 70 year old White guy = Their young men end up in jail because they never developed an entrenched work ethic. (There are lots of areas I could go here but you get what I mean) Is this a true statement? It may not be "Politically correct" vernacular, but be doesn't come off as a racist to me.

3. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? Translation: Are Blacks better off working and staying together as a family unit or are they better today, with subsidies for un-wed mothers and an uncertain future for black males in society? (That's my interpretation and I don't speak for all Black folks obviously.)

4. They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.” This is an accurate statement!

I could say so much more but I still stand with Mr Bundy and support him and his family's position against the BLM. This changes nothing in my mind.





need a source for this

[Deborah K]

I'm putting this here too, because I want to collect evidence for the double-standard:


I may have missed it (seriously....I don't make a habit of reading the NYTimes) but did the NYT make a similar big deal out of this??

Jay-Z Seen Wearing Controversial Medallion with Ties to Anti-White Five Percent Nation Group! (http://perezhilton.com/2014-04-07-jay-z-wear-controversial-anti-white-medallion-five-percent-nation#.U1lWz14trUk)

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/ap2903600489501.gif


Read more: http://perezhilton.com/2014-04-07-jay-z-wear-controversial-anti-white-medallion-five-percent-nation#ixzz2zpVImyEq[/FONT][/COLOR]

[Deborah K]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCJ59tls0vc

[Deborah K]

Jason Bullock is on the phone with Alex Jones right now from the Bundy Ranch. He is part of the security for Mr. Bundy. He has been at the ranch on and off for two weeks and now is definitely staying for the long haul. He said one of the reasons he came out in support of Mr. Bundy was because of the divide and conquer that goes on and he is sick of it. This is why he is standing in solidarity with the Bundy Family and any family who is being railroaded by the feds.

Oh I forgot to mention--he is black.

I need help finding the link for this interview. Anyone?

[Deborah K]

The full recording was posted by someone on their FB page (https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch/posts/631224826954329?reply_comment_id=631235756953236&total_comments=9):

http://bambuser.com/v/4549915

I wondered why it came up. He was talking about the Watts riots:

"What I am testifying to you is, I was in the Watts riots. What I seen was civil disturbance. People are not happy. People are thinking they don't have their freedoms and they don't have these things. And they didn't have them! We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want these colored people to have to go back to that point, and we sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies and do it in a peaceful way."

After which came the infamous quote.

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[William Tell]

need a source for this

That was originally posted as a comment on the Daily Paul. By the user 'Tuskeegee ' I have read his stuff in the past. He is a black man. I have an account over there. http://www.dailypaul.com/317499/ultimate-facepalm-rand-paul-slams-cliven-bundys-racist-rant-politico?page=2#comment-3392737

(http://www.dailypaul.com/317499/ultimate-facepalm-rand-paul-slams-cliven-bundys-racist-rant-politico?page=2#comment-3392737)

[Deborah K]

That was originally posted as a comment on the Daily Paul. By the user 'Tuskeegee ' I have read his stuff in the past. He is a black man. I have an account over there. http://www.dailypaul.com/317499/ultimate-facepalm-rand-paul-slams-cliven-bundys-racist-rant-politico?page=2#comment-3392737

(http://www.dailypaul.com/317499/ultimate-facepalm-rand-paul-slams-cliven-bundys-racist-rant-politico?page=2#comment-3392737)

There it is! I looked for it and couldn't find it. Thank you!

[Deborah K]

Megyn Kelly is covering this. Need a tube asap. Seems a fair report. Goes after Harry Reid.

[cajuncocoa]

Not Harry Reid, but here is our Vice President (then-Senator) speaking of his future boss:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIFV7jXBFQ

[squarepusher]

I wonder if it would be better to be a slave, or to get assistance with food and housing? Hmm, its pretty close since they are so similar, I'm gunna have to think this one over will get back once I ponder this a bit.

[Deborah K]

I wonder if it would be better to be a slave, or to get assistance with food and housing? Hmm, its pretty close since they are so similar, I'm gunna have to think this one over will get back once I ponder this a bit.


Here's the perspective from a black man, assuming you're interested, and assuming you don't view the world from politically correct lenses.


Let us break this down rationally shall we?

1. They abort their young children True or False? Highest rate of abortion among ethnic groups in USA.

2. they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. Translation from a 70 year old White guy = Their young men end up in jail because they never developed an entrenched work ethic. (There are lots of areas I could go here but you get what I mean) Is this a true statement? It may not be "Politically correct" vernacular, but be doesn't come off as a racist to me.

3. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? Translation: Are Blacks better off working and staying together as a family unit or are they better today, with subsidies for un-wed mothers and an uncertain future for black males in society? (That's my interpretation and I don't speak for all Black folks obviously.)

4. They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.” This is an accurate statement!

I could say so much more but I still stand with Mr Bundy and support him and his family's position against the BLM. This changes nothing in my mind.

http://www.dailypaul.com/317499/ultimate-facepalm-rand-paul-slams-cliven-bundys-racist-rant-politico?page=2#comment-3392737

[Lucille]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?450459-And-so-the-character-assasination-of-Cliven-Bundy-Begins!!!!!&p=5504830&viewfull=1#post5504830


Hah!

That's what I wanted to see! Let's get the real conversation started!

Black leader says Bundy remarks not racist

http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/black-leader-says-bundy-remarks-not-racist/


...

Keyes said that was evident.

“I find it appalling that we basically have a history of the leftist liberalism that wants to extinguish black people by abortion [and] destroying the family structure,” Keyes told WND. “All of these things if you just look at the effects, you would say this was planned by some racist madman to destroy the black community.”

Then when somebody comes along to comment on that damage, the leftists all scream “racism,” he said.

“I think it’s time somebody started to recognize the racism that exists in its effects – the hard leftist ideology using the black community for their sacrificial lamb, for their sick ideology. It’s time we called them what they are,” he said.

“Now it’s racist to point it out.”

...

[Lucille]

Bundy Comments on Slavery Endorsed by Black Descendant of SLAVES! Was he RIGHT?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPd4ILoc0sw

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/virginia-politics/jackson-says-welfare-not-slavery-destroys-black-families/article_bb7ca1e9-8f2c-581b-bd0c-94e51c301277.html


At a Juneteenth event in Newport News, E.W. Jackson, the Republican candidate for lieutenant governor, said that slavery did not destroy black families, but government welfare programs launched in the 1960s caused them to deteriorate.

Speaking before a small crowd at King-Lincoln Park Wednesday, not too far from where the first African slaves entered the Colonies, Jackson referred to his great-grandparents, who were slaves and sharecroppers in Orange County.

“I am a direct descendent of slaves. My grandfather was born there to a father and a mother who had been slaves. And by the way, their family was more intact than the black family is today,” Jackson said.

“I’m telling you that slavery did not destroy the black family, even though it certainly was an attack on the black family. It made it difficult,” he said.
[...]
“In 1960, most black children were raised in two-parent, monogamous families,” Jackson said Wednesday. “By now, by this time, we only have 20 percent of black children being raised in two-parent, monogamous families with a married man and woman raising those children.

“It wasn’t slavery that did that, it was government that did that, trying to solve problems that only God can solve, and that only we as human beings can solve,” he said.

[cajuncocoa]

Something tells me this guy knows what's up, and isn't going to let racism stop him from fighting for the little guy, and standing up for an American's rights.
https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/l/t1.0-9/10150574_283932258435988_3181636657739821818_n.jpg



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[Lucille]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=55aujTwuJY8


Runaway Slave is a feature-length documentary film, which exposes the economic slavery of the black community to the Progressive, big government policies of the U.S. government. The film's heroes are black conservatives who are speaking out so that all Americans can truly be "free at last."

http://www.amazon.com/Runaway-Slave-Rev-C-L-Bryant/dp/B008QEQF10

[Lucille]

http://theblacksphere.net/2014/4/black-marine-clive-bundy-no-racist


Below is what a black Marine has to say about the Clive Bundy comment.


Charlie Delta
The media distorts information to the point of social division. This is a photo of myself and the resilient, often charismatic, and maybe not so tactful Cliven Bundy. He’s a cowboy and a helluva family man, not an orator. One thing he definitely isn’t – a racist. I found his comments to not only be NOT racist, but his own view of his experiences.
[...]
Furthermore, if you take the time to do your own research, you’ll find that his statements about some black Americans actually hold weight. He posed a hypothetical question. He said, “I wonder IF” … Hell, I’m black and I often wonder about the same about the decline of the black family. Bottom line is that we are all slaves in this waning republic, no matter our skin color. Mr. Bundy could have used any racial demographic as an example: Native Americans on reservations, whites in trailer parks, etc. He noticed the crippling effects of receiving government “assistance” and the long term result of accepting handouts. It’s not progress at all. I challenge Sean Hannity, Rand Paul, and others to read my comment and reconsider their position in this matter. Individual liberties are at stake here, yours and mine. THAT is the issue. Don’t let the liberal media and ignoramuses like Glenn Beck and that weasel Harry Reid make you lose sight of the real issue here: The federal government is a burgeoning behemoth and a bully on a once constitutional playground.I sincerely hope you real patriots out there who can see through the smoke.

For my part, I say to the Left, shove Clive Bundy’s statement up your Harry Reids!

As an aside, Jackson wrote a scathing piece on Garafalo and "the racist, elitist Democrat Party" some years ago:

Racist Garofalo to the Rescue
http://theblacksphere.net/2009/04/racist-garofalo-to-the-rescue/


As a black man, I love it when ignorant white women like Janeane Garofalo speak for all blacks. It’s thrilling to me that Janeane would take time out of her busy Hollyweird life to protect me and my peeps — the downtrodden, the oppressed…the lowly Negro.

For her efforts, I thank Garofalo, and anoint her Janeane Garofalo: White Chick Protector of the Lowly Negro. Who better than she to offer such protection? Garofalo, after all is an American hero! And I bet you were wondering who could possibly replace the likes of Barbara Streisand or Susan Sarandon…Madonna?

Garofalo is so in touch with the black condition, that she is uniquely qualified to assess and understand my people’s “condition.” Her intimate knowledge of blacks allows her to interpret how blacks think, and then translate “black-think” for the rest of America. “Cuz Lawd knows, we kaints do dis for ourselfs.”
[...]
Garofalo is the prototypical elitist, who believes blacks to be weak and stupid. With those perceptions of blacks, she is the perfect representative of the racist, elitist Democrat Party. How did we survive without them?

[Deborah K]

http://theblacksphere.net/2014/4/black-marine-clive-bundy-no-racist



As an aside, Jackson wrote a scathing piece on Garafalo and "the racist, elitist Democrat Party" some years ago:

Racist Garofalo to the Rescue
http://theblacksphere.net/2009/04/racist-garofalo-to-the-rescue/

Oh snap! How embarrassing for her. LOL.

[Deborah K]

http://theblacksphere.net/2014/4/black-marine-clive-bundy-no-racist



As an aside, Jackson wrote a scathing piece on Garafalo and "the racist, elitist Democrat Party" some years ago:

Racist Garofalo to the Rescue
http://theblacksphere.net/2009/04/racist-garofalo-to-the-rescue/

Oh snap! How embarrassing for her. LOL.

[Brian4Liberty]

I know I saw a full Youtube version of Bundy's entire talk. Can we put a link here for future reference?

[Deborah K]

I've been looking for it. I think it's somewhere in that long thread.

[Lucille]

I don't think it is on youtube.

Bundy Ranch FULL interview. Uncut/Unedited
http://bambuser.com/v/4549915

[Brian4Liberty]

I don't think it is on youtube.

Bundy Ranch FULL interview. Uncut/Unedited
http://bambuser.com/v/4549915

Thanks. I could swear I saw the entire thing posted in a thread as a Youtube video. Oh well, I couldn't find it.

[Valli6]

Saw this was posted at the dailypaul. It's not specifically about Bundy, but...

EW Jackson, talks about the effect welfare had on the black family.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMyV9632PZA


"My great grandparents, Gabriel and Elijah Jackson were slaves and sharecroppers in Orange County, Virginia. I am a direct decedent of slaves. My grandfather was born there, to a father and a mother who had been slaves. And by the way, their family was more intact than the black family is today and I'm telling you that slavery did not destroy the black family even though it certainly was an attack on the black family, it made it difficult but I'll tell you that the programs that began in the '60s, the programs that began to tell women that you don't need a man in the home, the government will take care of you, that and began to tell men, you don't need to be in the home, the government will take care of this woman and take care of these children. That's when the black family began to deteriorate. In 1960, most black children were raised in two parent, monogamous families. By now, by this time, we have only 20% of black children being raised in a two parent, monogamous families with the married man and woman raising those children. It wasn't slavery that did that, it was government that did that. It tried to solve problems that only god can solve and that only we as human beings can solve."

This is also from the dailypaul, don't know if it was posted here in a different thread?
African-American Bodyguard Would Take Bullet For Bundy (:49)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu_YKgGRFZ8&feature=youtu.be

[tod evans]

This thread on AJ might help?

http://www.infowars.com/black-marines-cliven-bundy-is-not-racist/#disqus_thread

[Deborah K]

Thanks for the additions. Hopefully people who care about this issue of federal land-grabs will use the info in this thread as part of their arsenal in promoting this man's cause.

[Deborah K]

TMOT - The Minister of Truth (Derrick Grayson) for those who don't know him, speaks out:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cd3TG9uoMg&sns=fb

[Lucille]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPzie5K8jJg

Howard Stern loves him. I hope he plays the clip.

[Deborah K]

FOR IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE - BUNDY RANGE WAR - 4-25-14


We are trading one form of slavery for another.



What I am saying is that all we Americans are trading one form of slavery for another. All of us are in some measure slaves of the federal government. Through their oppressive tactics of telling the ranchers how many cows they can have on their land, and making that number too low to support a ranch, the BLM has driven every rancher in Clark County off the land, except me. The IRS keeps the people of America in fear, and makes us all work about a third or a half of the year before we have earned enough to pay their taxes. This is nothing but slavery from January through May. The NSA spies on us and collects our private phone calls and emails. And the government dole which many people in America are on, and have been for much of their lives, is dehumanizing and degrading. It takes away incentive to work and self respect. Eventually a person on the dole becomes a ward of the government, because his only source of income is a dole from the government. Once the government has you in that position, you are its slave.



I am trying to keep Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream alive. He was praying for the day when he and his people would be free, and he could say I’m free, free at last, thank God I’m free at last! But all of us here America, no matter our race, are having our freedom eroded and destroyed by the federal government because of its heavy handed tactics. The BLM, the IRS, the NSA--all of the federal agencies are destroying our freedom. I am standing up against their bad and unconstitutional laws, just like Rosa Parks did when she refused to sit in the back of the bus. She started a revolution in America, the civil rights movement, which freed the black people from much of the oppression they were suffering. I'm saying Martin Luther King's dream was not that Rosa could take her rightful seat in the front of the bus, but his dream was that she could take any seat on the bus and I would be honored to sit beside her. I am doing the same thing Rosa Parks did--I am standing up against bad laws which dehumanize us and destroy our freedom. Just like the Minutemen at Lexington and Concord, we are saying no to an oppressive government which considers us to be slaves rather than free men.

I invite all people in America to join in our peaceful revolution to regain our freedom. That is how America was started, and we need to keep that tradition alive.



Cliven D. Bundy


PS - Please pass this email along to friends and family.

If you are not getting these emails directly you can join the list at: http://bit.do/bundy


PPS - Please join us this evening April 25th around 6 pm for a BBQ and some entertainment and a little swim in the river. Bring EVERYONE you know.

On Bunkerville rd East of I-15 a few miles. You can't miss us.

I plan on tweeting this.

I don't get why drudge doesn't have this up today?

[Valli6]

Independent Journal Review

Black Marine’s Letter Refutes Left-Wing Media Narrative that Cliven Bundy is a ‘Racist’
By Kyle Becker - 20 hours ago

…This letter via the great Kevin Jackson comes from a black Marine going by the name of Charlie Delta:


http://www.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/marinebundy2-370x140.jpg?437a59

The media distorts information to the point of social division. This is a photo of myself and the resilient, often charismatic, and maybe not so tactful Cliven Bundy. He’s a cowboy and a helluva family man, not an orator.

One thing he definitely isn’t – a racist. I found his comments to not only be NOT racist, but his own view of his experiences. Who the heck are we to determine another man’s perspective on the world around him?! Just because Picasso’s view of the world was abstract, does it negate the fact that his art was genuine?

Furthermore, if you take the time to do your own research, you’ll find that his statements about some black Americans actually hold weight. He posed a hypothetical question. He said, “I wonder IF” … Hell, I’m black and I often wonder about the same about the decline of the black family.

Bottom line is that we are all slaves in this waning republic, no matter our skin color. Mr. Bundy could have used any racial demographic as an example: Native Americans on reservations, whites in trailer parks, etc. He noticed the crippling effects of receiving government “assistance” and the long term result of accepting handouts.

It’s not progress at all. I challenge Sean Hannity, Rand Paul, and others to read my comment and reconsider their position in this matter. Individual liberties are at stake here, yours and mine. THAT is the issue.

Don’t let the liberal media and ignoramuses like Glenn Beck and that weasel Harry Reid make you lose sight of the real issue here: The federal government is a burgeoning behemoth and a bully on a once constitutional playground.I sincerely hope you real patriots out there who can see through the smoke.

Semper Fidelis

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/04/132699-black-marines-letter-refutes-left-wing-media-narrative-cliven-bundy-racist/

update Here's where the letter had been posted first:

The Blacksphere - Kevin Jackson
http://theblacksphere.net/2014/4/black-marine-clive-bundy-no-racist

http://theblacksphere.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Charlie-Delta-with-Bundy-281x500.jpg Charlie Delta and Cliven Bundy

[Weston White]

Has the MSM been actively addressing the fakery of Al Sharpton?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/Al-Sharpton-918273
http://www.infowars.com/al-sharpton-coke-dealing-fbi-informant/
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/03/21/al-sharpton-where-does-rand-paul-get-off-talking-about-civil-rights-107579

[PursuePeace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stbf9GcVQ3E