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green73
04-22-2014, 02:59 PM
An organizer for the annual Burning Man festival in Nevada has decided to take the party to Cliven Bundy’s ranch for a 30-day, rules-free “Bundyfest.”

Liberal activist Sean Shealy said the festival will be held across the road from Mr. Bundy’s ranch in Bunkerville for 30 days beginning Sept. 5 and will feature more than 250 bands, Raw Story first reported.

The event appears to blatantly mock the defiant rancher, who has engaged in a long-term battle with the Bureau of Land Management over unpaid federal grazing fees.

“For years, we paid permitting fees to hold Burning Man on the beautiful Playa in Northern Nevada,” reads the Bundyfest Facebook page. “But now, Cliven Bundy has shown us a NEW WAY! ABSOLUTE FREEDOM! Bundy has declared the entire area surrounding Bundy Ranch as a TOTALLY RULES-FREE ZONE! ANYTHING GOES! WOO-HOO!!!”

The page also proudly states that Bundyfest is a “gay friendly atmosphere” that permits “full nudity.”

cont.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/22/bundyfest-burning-man-organizer-plans-30-days-anar/


update:


Looks like the media failed to fact check on this one.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?450322-false-Burning-Man-organizer-plans-30-days-of-anarchy-next-to-Bundy-ranch&p=5502488&viewfull=1#post5502488

dannno
04-22-2014, 03:04 PM
Am I the only one who wants to go to both events? (Or all three actually - Bundy's party, Burning Man and the post Burning Man Bundy party)

That will be an interesting "decompression" as they like to call it.

CaseyJones
04-22-2014, 03:09 PM
sounds like a good time for naked open carry party crash

Lord Xar
04-22-2014, 03:10 PM
So, a sycophant of the state wants to make an example of Bundy to not go against the will of God, Government? hmmmm. Can never support.

dannno
04-22-2014, 03:10 PM
Burning Man may pay fees, but it traditionally was an anarchist communal centered event with little to no law enforcement presence. However these days I have heard there are quite a few undercover officers at burning man looking to bust people for drugs.

There are hundreds of festivals around the country that are smaller scale, more music oriented versions of burning man. What the organizers of THESE events have found is that it is far superior to hold them on PRIVATE land as opposed to public land because on private land law enforcement generally cannot just come in without the owner's permission. They have also found there are a lot less hoops to jump through.

Philhelm
04-22-2014, 03:11 PM
sounds like a good time for naked open carry party crash

You just want to show off why they call you "Two-Gun CaseyJones."

twomp
04-22-2014, 03:16 PM
AS long as it's not on his private property, I don't see how the Bundy's can complain about this. It would be hilarious to me though to see a bunch of BLM agents point some guns at these guys over turtles. Maybe then, they will recognize the seriousness of all this.

dannno
04-22-2014, 03:22 PM
http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/20120905_burning_man_2012/burningman2012_023.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/burn090313/s_b01_RTX133BX.jpg

http://cdn.visualnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Scott-London-Burning-Man-2011-2.jpg

http://veronatheband.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Burning-Man.jpeg

http://createquity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/burning-man-1.jpg

http://www.joeclifford.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Burning-Man.jpg

otherone
04-22-2014, 03:32 PM
“For years, we paid permitting fees to hold Burning Man on the beautiful Playa in Northern Nevada,” reads the Bundyfest Facebook page. “But now, Cliven Bundy has shown us a NEW WAY! ABSOLUTE FREEDOM! Bundy has declared the entire area surrounding Bundy Ranch as a TOTALLY RULES-FREE ZONE! ANYTHING GOES! WOO-HOO!!!”

It's a sad day when hippies snark on behalf of the Establishment.

Uriel999
04-22-2014, 03:37 PM
So Corporate anarchist supports government...Okay can we say hypocrisy.

Suzanimal
04-22-2014, 03:41 PM
sounds like a good time for naked open carry party crash

I'd be down with that.

jkr
04-22-2014, 03:45 PM
Sure you may be trying to feed people but you get guns stuck in your face; but we are partying our ass off and demand we be left alone because we paid our "fee's" so fuck you hamburger man

FloralScent
04-22-2014, 03:47 PM
It's a sad day when hippies snark on behalf of the Establishment.

They've always been useful idiots.

NIU Students for Liberty
04-22-2014, 03:48 PM
I didn't realize that opposition to civil disobedience was a cause to rally around within anarchy...

NIU Students for Liberty
04-22-2014, 03:50 PM
It's a sad day when hippies snark on behalf of the Establishment.

It's a sad day when liberal statists claim to understand the definition of anarchy.

Uriel999
04-22-2014, 04:15 PM
It's a sad day when liberal statists claim to understand the definition of anarchy.

No they understand it perfectly. Anarchy is the tool of socialists used to usher in more statism.

Antischism
04-22-2014, 06:05 PM
I want a "give the land back to Mexico and the natives" fest. I wonder how many Bundy supporters would show up to that one.

Petar
04-22-2014, 06:27 PM
The mask slips... I always thought that "burning man" seemed to symbolize a neo-pagan ritual that was really meant just to further demoralize western civilization... hedonistic anarchy and all that... the fact that these stupid hippies are so hostile towards a conservative that wants to exercise Constitutional freedom really comes as no surprise... still, I somehow doubt that many of these stupid hippies are really going to be able to get very enthusiastic about this deeply cynical event... deep down inside they know how ugly they are actually behaving... no amount of ecstasy is going to cover that up for them... hopefully they start hacking each other's limbs off in some drug fueled frenzy... I think I'm going to go and post a lot of shit-talking on their facebook page now...

AuH20
04-22-2014, 06:36 PM
The mask slips... I always thought that "burning man" seemed to symbolize a neo-pagan ritual that was really meant just to further demoralize western civilization... hedonistic anarchy and all that... the fact that these stupid hippies are so hostile towards a conservative that wants to exercise Constitutional freedom really comes as no surprise... still, I somehow doubt that many of these stupid hippies are really going to be able to get very enthusiastic about this deeply cynical event... deep down inside they know how ugly they are actually behaving... no amount of ecstasy is going to cover that up for them... hopefully they start hacking each other's limbs off in some drug fueled frenzy... I think I'm going to go and post a lot of shit-talking on their facebook page now...

That's what I thought as well. I thought Burning Man was about No Boundaries, unless of course you're a classical liberal.

tod evans
04-22-2014, 06:40 PM
Sounds like the perfect opportunity to sell BBQ and cold beer by the ton....

Put those pits the feds dug to good use and pit roast a few head.....

HVACTech
04-22-2014, 06:41 PM
sounds like a good time for naked open carry party crash

LOL!

game on! we should go. it will be fun.

Petar
04-22-2014, 06:41 PM
That's what I thought as well. I thought Burning Man was about No Boundaries, unless of course you're a classical liberal.

We are all supposed to fiddle while Rome burns; and if we don't, then we are obviously the enemy...

Victor Grey
04-22-2014, 07:10 PM
Yet if they cleaned up all their *stuff afterward, I could care less of a damn if they held a burning man on public land wherever they very well pleased.

I don't want their tax money, the vile sniveling pigs. It's a one way feeling going on there. I say go party.

Why do some literally want to show their ass, to the mean old Clive Bundy here?
What does that have jack to do with the (originally?) very loosely organized Burning Man event?
It seems it only has the commonality of both involving the inclusion of a portion of dumb, aging, state sheep prog hippies. Oh and some nudists. I guess some of them are gay. They intentionally mentioned that part.

He doesn't pay his taxes, and from what I'm understanding, for some the response is, "hey I'm naked look at my junk. Does this make you uncomfortable? I thought it might, so I'm going to do it in front of you because emotionally I'm 12. Look at me, uh, I'm very, very homosexual. I'm going to get stoned off my gourd, and that'll show you huh. Didn't pay those taxes I wanted him to, ugh. I'm entitled to it so give it over, and therefore hah hah I'm gay. Yep, check it out.
Also I'm going to go throw my trash on your private land, and go kick an endangered species and screw with nature for kicks in general, to show all you people just how we'll totally ruin your less statism ideas. What with your cows and such. We'll show you."

Sheesh, what do you even respond with, to something like that?

2young2vote
04-22-2014, 07:57 PM
If it is federal land then it shouldn't matter. They shouldn't have to pay permitting fees to anyone to use that land to gather in the first place. I just hope none of the people on the Bundy's side do anything stupid, but I'm probably going to be disappointed.

Carson
04-22-2014, 07:57 PM
Just jumped the shark.

Carson
04-22-2014, 08:02 PM
At first I thought they were going to hang out in support.

I suppose if this is anything more than a joke it could turn into a movement of support, if, people can just get their heads in gear.

Carson
04-22-2014, 08:07 PM
If it is federal land then it shouldn't matter. They shouldn't have to pay permitting fees to anyone to use that land to gather in the first place. I just hope none of the people on the Bundy's side do anything stupid, but I'm probably going to be disappointed.

I think they go beyond some friends camping when they make it a commercial venture. I would imagine the fee they pay for Burning Man depends on the amount of upkeep.

phill4paul
04-22-2014, 08:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sYCFbBDe8w

2young2vote
04-22-2014, 08:13 PM
I think they go beyond some friends camping when they make it a commercial venture. I would imagine the fee they pay for Burning Man depends on the amount of upkeep.

Oh, I didn't know a desert required upkeep.

thoughtomator
04-22-2014, 08:21 PM
Oh, I didn't know a desert required upkeep.

You should see the amount of garbage that 50k people will produce.

Anyway, the post-BM Bundy Ranch event is guaranteed to be a massive fiasco if it ever happens. That's rough land and everything there bites or stings. Not a place you want to be romping around naked.

Carson
04-22-2014, 08:25 PM
Oh, I didn't know a desert required upkeep.

Maybe it doesn't, if your doing it right.

So like I said, "I would imagine the fee they pay for Burning Man depends on the amount of upkeep.".

dannno
04-22-2014, 09:01 PM
The mask slips... I always thought that "burning man" seemed to symbolize a neo-pagan ritual that was really meant just to further demoralize western civilization... hedonistic anarchy and all that... the fact that these stupid hippies are so hostile towards a conservative that wants to exercise Constitutional freedom really comes as no surprise... still, I somehow doubt that many of these stupid hippies are really going to be able to get very enthusiastic about this deeply cynical event... deep down inside they know how ugly they are actually behaving... no amount of ecstasy is going to cover that up for them... hopefully they start hacking each other's limbs off in some drug fueled frenzy... I think I'm going to go and post a lot of shit-talking on their facebook page now...

I know at least four burners enough and know all of them would side with Bundy. I know way more burner types (they go to similar festivals but maybe not burning man) and it would be mixed but definitely a lot more support than the general population.

dannno
04-22-2014, 09:02 PM
Sounds like the perfect opportunity to sell BBQ and cold beer by the ton....

Put those pits the feds dug to good use and pit roast a few head.....

People don't use money at burning man, it's a gift and trade economy.

dannno
04-22-2014, 09:05 PM
Yet if they cleaned up all their *stuff afterward,

What makes you think they leave any of their stuff out in the desert?

dannno
04-22-2014, 09:07 PM
You should see the amount of garbage that 50k people will produce.



They take it with them.

HOLLYWOOD
04-22-2014, 10:32 PM
BLM shows up... just have this guy aka 'Security', tell them to "Just Walk Away..."

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100113012502/roadwarrior/images/a/ab/Lord_Humungus.jpg

fr33
04-22-2014, 10:55 PM
Anarchy in support of government owned land. That's like fucking for virginity.

speciallyblend
04-22-2014, 11:13 PM
Anarchy in support of government owned land. That's like fucking for virginity.

touché,love it!!!

V3n
04-23-2014, 07:03 AM
I know at least four burners enough and know all of them would side with Bundy. I know way more burner types (they go to similar festivals but maybe not burning man) and it would be mixed but definitely a lot more support than the general population.

You're absolutely correct. I've been to Burning Man, and I'd love to go back. I totally side with Bundy. Burning Man is a lot more diverse than the media (or some people here) give it credit for. Until you've gone (or like you, know someone who's gone) - you really shouldn't believe the stereotypes of the people that go.

If these folks thought it through to the logical conclusion, they would see what they are saying sarcastically is truth, and the irony of what fr33 mentioned above.

tod evans
04-23-2014, 07:15 AM
Sounds like the perfect opportunity to sell BBQ and cold beer by the ton....

Put those pits the feds dug to good use and pit roast a few head.....


People don't use money at burning man, it's a gift and trade economy.


Wonder what the Bundy's could barter for then?

Anti Federalist
04-23-2014, 07:28 AM
As the population of Black Rock City grew, further rules were established in relation to its survival. Some critics of the event cite the addition of these rules as impinging on the original freedoms, altering the experience unacceptably, while others find the increased level of activity more than balances out the changes.
A ban on guns.
A grid street structure.[16]
A speed limit of 5 mph (8 km/h).[17]
A ban on driving, except for approved "mutant vehicles" and service vehicles.[18]
Safety standards on mutant vehicles.[17]
Burning your own art must be done on an approved burn platform.[19]
A ban on fireworks.[20]
A ban on dogs.[21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Man

Sounds like any other large gathering of people these days.

A big fucking rules fest.

Not interested.

Acala
04-23-2014, 08:59 AM
Note: the Rainbow Gathering, which is probably more authentic hippie than Burning Man, stages events on Federal land and does not pay fees. They avoid having any kind of organizational structure that can be held accountable. A consensus on where to have the gathering "emerges" and people just show up. Things like food, water, sanitation, and clean up emerge organically through volunteer action. The Fedcoats have nobody to hold responsible for a permit. :-)

oyarde
04-23-2014, 09:34 AM
Sounds like any other large gathering of people these days.

A big fucking rules fest.

Not interested.
No guns or dogs ? wtf ??

pcosmar
04-23-2014, 09:56 AM
Deliberately and intentionally insulting.

No, thank you.

kahless
04-23-2014, 11:26 AM
Looks like the media failed to fact check on this one.



https://www.facebook.com/BurningMan
For the record, the Burning Man organization has absolutely no involvement whatsoever with the so-called #BundyFest or its supposed organizer Sean Shealy.





https://www.facebook.com/www.bundyfest.org
MESSAGE TO JOURNALISTS: Thank you so much for your interest in BundyFest!

A quick point of correction: I am NOT 'the organizer of Burning Man.' Some outlet announced that late last night, and several others have erroneously run with it (gotta love the internet).
...
I have in fact never BEEN to Burning Man (although I'd like to go -- maybe this year )


Yet this Bundyfest jackass posted this prior to the above message which is probably why the media reported it wrong.



https://www.facebook.com/www.bundyfest.org
For years, we paid permitting fees to hold Burning Man on the beautiful Playa in Northern Nevada. But now, Cliven Bundy has shown....


Know thy enemy, however word of warning, the Bundyfest FB comments are pretty over the top pro-government and anti-liberty.

dannno
04-23-2014, 11:33 AM
Sounds like any other large gathering of people these days.

A big fucking rules fest.

Not interested.

Ya you probably would have fit right in about 12 years or so ago.

FloralScent
04-23-2014, 11:49 AM
Know thy enemy, however word of warning, the Bundyfest FB comments are pretty over the top pro-government and anti-liberty.

Hopefully, one of them steps on a tortoise and they feel the wrath of an already emasculated and frustrated BLM. Of course, for all we know Bundyfest could be an entirely FedGov operation. They love to put on faux demonstrations of public support.

kahless
04-23-2014, 11:55 AM
Hopefully, one of them steps on a tortoise and they feel the wrath of an already emasculated and frustrated BLM. Of course, for all we know Bundyfest could be an entirely FedGov operation. They love to put on faux demonstrations of public support.

What really pisses me off is the media seems to have made this guy and possibly this event. Sounds like he was just some clown on FB that falsely claimed he was connected with Burning Man and the media ran with it.

The US media has been really over the top lately publishing blatantly false stories to benefit the Obama admin, authoritarianism and big government ideology. Whats next.

dannno
04-23-2014, 12:27 PM
Note: the Rainbow Gathering, which is probably more authentic hippie than Burning Man, stages events on Federal land and does not pay fees. They avoid having any kind of organizational structure that can be held accountable. A consensus on where to have the gathering "emerges" and people just show up. Things like food, water, sanitation, and clean up emerge organically through volunteer action. The Fedcoats have nobody to hold responsible for a permit. :-)

Yes I've been to one of those, it was on private land tho. Very awesome. There are several other similar types of groups as well not to mention organized festivals with central coordinators (Do Lab comes to mind), but ya the centrally organized ones tend to be more successful on private land.

Acala
04-23-2014, 02:04 PM
Yes I've been to one of those, it was on private land tho. Very awesome. There are several other similar types of groups as well not to mention organized festivals with central coordinators (Do Lab comes to mind), but ya the centrally organized ones tend to be more successful on private land.

Never been to one but have considered it.

Origanalist
04-23-2014, 07:44 PM
effin hippies

HVACTech
04-23-2014, 07:55 PM
why don't we plan one?
it would be a great place for a Libertyfest.

and we do need to show support. this might be a golden opportunity.

oyarde
04-23-2014, 11:52 PM
Not to offend anyone , but no weapons or dogs is just Secret code for a big, naked, gay, socialist , sausage fest. No thanks. I do not like socialists that much , LOL

kahless
04-24-2014, 07:00 AM
Not to offend anyone , but no weapons or dogs is just Secret code for a big, naked, gay, socialist , sausage fest. No thanks. I do not like socialists that much , LOL

I agree, the "largest penis" competition with prizes is also a dead give away.

otherone
04-24-2014, 07:06 AM
Not to offend anyone , but no weapons or dogs is just Secret code for a big, naked, gay, socialist , sausage fest. No thanks. I do not like socialists that much , LOL

Interesting how you chose to single out "socialist" as the deal-breaker.
:p

Lucille
05-02-2014, 03:49 PM
There is a BundyFest being held though, right?

An Urgent Plea to Cliven Bundy
http://www.strike-the-root.com/urgent-plea-to-cliven-bundy


Mr. Bundy,

You have given the country a rare opportunity, sir. Until very recently, the issue that drew both the ire of statists and the camaraderie of American patriots was your land dispute with the federal government. They were central questions that were asked at the dawn of our Republic, and needed a much deserved reminder: “How much power does the government have?” And: “What exactly constitutes a property-holder?” For 20 years, you have bravely answered this, defying the Bureau of Land Management and telling them that the land belongs to the People, specifically those who toil and live on it. As a note as to my own stance on the matter, I believe it to be indefectibly American anytime one single person can upset everybody on the political spectrum – from the predictably hysterical liberal Talking Heads on MSNBC and CNN, to Fox’s lineup of Neoconservatives, including Bill Kristol, Tucker Carlson, and Glenn Beck. You know as well as I that those on the “Establishment Right” care as much about your plight as the average Democrip (Jesse Ventura’s new terminology for our “elected” officials) operative. It’s a damn fine thing to witness them all shriek in unity. Well done!

http://www.strike-the-root.com/sites/default/files/1_and_2nd_amendment.jpg
[...]
As you might have heard by now, the event has gone mainstream (http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/bundy-blm/bundyfest-could-become-reality). Scheduled to kick off on September 5th, and run into October, Shealy promises that it’s going to be anarchic – “TOTAL FREEDOM,” as the headline of the page reads– with live music playing all day and night, lots of nudity, beer, weed, and perhaps even a few guns. As Mr. Hadaller told me, if it “takes something like ‘BundyFest!” to trick people into talking with each other and maybe within all that crap, threats, name-calling, etc., maybe there will be two people from different political views who find out that they have a few things in common.” He also makes an interesting point in saying that the land that you own is not the land in which you graze your cattle on. And yet, he would love to see the day that all property tax is abolished. Just like that, two people with vastly different perspectives can seemingly agree to disagree for yet another time and place. “The idea is to be inclusive, not exclusive,” as he says. Good. Yet I have my doubts that any of the tough guys on their thread will actually be there in person, and then would not be concerned for the safety of your family. After all, voting once or twice a year in your own neighborhood is much easier than actually having to travel somewhere in order to make a dispute directly; why steal from someone when you can vote for a politician who will do it for you?

This is where you and your supporters come in. You have given press conference after press conference, interview after interview, attempting to clarify your thoughts and to speak to the American people. You even went so far as to call this a “movement.” What terminology! Surely you have perked more ears than just mine with that remark. Shall we be more direct than this? Can you come to embrace a new Woodstock right in your backyard? Shealy has said that he will respect your property boundaries. Can we all, then, just get along? Maybe figure out this little bit about taxation and property rights and who constitutes an actual welfare moocher? Perhaps eat some steak, drink some beer, and fight the Feds together? It would be wonderful.

I hope you consider, and I hope to meet you come September.

dannno
05-02-2014, 04:02 PM
There is a BundyFest being held though, right?



I doubt it, I think the whole thing was a joke by some guy who has never even been to burning man (not that I have either but just sayin)

I don't think it had any real traction to turn in to anything tho.

Carlybee
05-02-2014, 04:18 PM
I hate festivals. I really don't even like people that much.

CPUd
05-02-2014, 04:28 PM
From their facebook feed:

http://i.imgur.com/UNkGnaD.jpg

Lucille
05-02-2014, 04:31 PM
I doubt it, I think the whole thing was a joke by some guy who has never even been to burning man (not that I have either but just sayin)

I don't think it had any real traction to turn in to anything tho.

I wonder. The FedBook page is still active:

https://www.facebook.com/events/688187351242203/?ref=br_tf


I hate festivals. I really don't even like people that much.

LOL. I'm with Buk:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rgKAOdPx58