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DamianTV
04-21-2014, 03:24 PM
http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/04/21/1821212/administration-ordered-to-divulge-legal-basis-for-killing-americans-with-drones


"In a claim brought by The New York Times and the ACLU, the Second US Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that the administration must disclose the legal basis for targeting Americans with drones. From the article: 'Government officials from Obama on down have publicly commented on the program, but they claimed the Office of Legal Counsel's memo outlining the legal rationale about it was a national security secret. The appeals court, however, said on Monday that officials' comments about overseas drone attacks means the government has waived its secrecy argument. "After senior Government officials have assured the public that targeted killings are 'lawful' and that OLC advice 'establishes the legal boundaries within which we can operate,'" the appeals court said, "waiver of secrecy and privilege as to the legal analysis in the Memorandum has occurred" (PDF).'"

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Like anyone in any administration is going to pay any attention to this.

jllundqu
04-21-2014, 03:27 PM
"The government can kill anyone at anytime based on a piece of paper I won't let you see, and if you don't like it you're a racist and probably a domestic terrorist."

Did I miss anything?

Anti Federalist
04-21-2014, 03:54 PM
"The government can kill anyone at anytime based on a piece of paper I won't let you see, and if you don't like it you're a racist and probably a domestic terrorist."

Did I miss anything?

Just this:

"So FUCK YOU! That's our legal basis. Now, move the fuck along..." - Administration Spokesperson Friendly.

thoughtomator
04-21-2014, 03:56 PM
Either SCOTUS will overrule, or the admin will ignore/lie. It will definitely not tell the truth about who it murders and why.

twomp
04-21-2014, 04:03 PM
Killing innocent people based on a decision of high ranking people from an organization in order to achieve certain goals.

Description fits for
a) Al Qaeda
b) the Government of the United States of America.

Philhelm
04-21-2014, 04:06 PM
Interstate commerce?

HVACTech
04-21-2014, 04:26 PM
how do you surrender to a drone?
better question. how do they tell the people apart? do they have flashing lights on their heads?

arbitrary death from the sky. this will NOT turn out well for anyone.

mosquitobite
04-21-2014, 04:36 PM
awesome ruling and glad Reuters even reported!

ZENemy
04-21-2014, 04:40 PM
Anarchy? But without government, who will kill people endlessly unchecked by the millions with nobody to stop them?

jkr
04-21-2014, 04:45 PM
amendment 14

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article

AMMIRITE?

mrsat_98
04-21-2014, 05:09 PM
how do you surrender to a drone?
better question. how do they tell the people apart? do they have flashing lights on their heads?

arbitrary death from the sky. this will NOT turn out well for anyone.

And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, Rev 13-13