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Lucille
04-17-2014, 03:52 PM
http://www.infowars.com/harry-reid-calls-cliven-bundy-supporters-domestic-terrorists/


Senator Harry Reid has escalated the war of words over the Cliven Bundy dispute, sensationally labeling the Nevada cattle rancher’s supporters “domestic terrorists” during an event in Las Vegas today.

During a ‘Hashtags & Headlines’ event at the Paris Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, Reid referred to Bundy supporters as “Nothing more than domestic terrorists,” adding, “I repeat: what happened there was domestic terrorism.”
[...]
“There were hundreds, hundreds of people from around the country that came there,” Reid said. “They had sniper rifles in the freeway. They had weapons, automatic weapons. They had children lined up. They wanted to make sure they got hurt first … What if others tried the same thing?”

Despite Reid’s characterization of Bundy supporters as “domestic terrorists,” the only violence metered out during the dispute was when BLM agents tasered and assaulted Bundy supporters during an incident on April 9.

No matter where you stand on the Bundy issue, Reid’s characterization of American protesters as “domestic terrorists” is chilling and a massive backlash is almost certain to follow.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/politics/reid-calls-bundy-supporters-domestic-terrorists


Reid, the Senate majority leader who is in Las Vegas during Congress’ Easter recess, said he understands there’s a federal task force being set up in order to deal with Bundy, and Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie is involved as well.

AuH20
04-17-2014, 03:52 PM
Automatic weapons? That's news to me.

Ecolibertarian
04-17-2014, 03:54 PM
These people were defending private property, with arms that they are constitutionally entitled to bear, against thieves. I don't think it gets any more terroristic than that.

ghengis86
04-17-2014, 03:59 PM
Well, it took them long enough. I expected the 'official' use of domestic terrorist to befall the Sons of Liberty much sooner. It seems the King and his court are agitated that the serfs aren't licking their boots. Too bad they only know escalation and violence which will lead to their eventual destruction. Picking up the pace now...

acptulsa
04-17-2014, 04:08 PM
Automatic weapons? That's news to me.


“There were hundreds, hundreds of people from around the country that came there,” Reid said. “They had sniper rifles in the freeway. They had weapons, automatic weapons. They had children lined up. They wanted to make sure they got hurt first … What if others tried the same thing?”

He says he's talking about Bundy's supporters. But I guess he didn't actually see any, because he described his own goons instead.

pcosmar
04-17-2014, 04:18 PM
He says he's talking about Bundy's supporters. But I guess he didn't actually see any, because he described his own goons instead.
The only man I saw on the Highway Overpass did not have a sniper rifle. Just a semi-auto rifle.

The snipers were not seen. They were targeting the BLM snipers that were targeting unarmed protesters.

satchelmcqueen
04-17-2014, 04:24 PM
go cry some more reid!

HOLLYWOOD
04-17-2014, 04:34 PM
Reid, the Senate majority leader who is in Las Vegas during Congress’ Easter recess, said he understands there’s a federal task force being set up in order to deal with Bundy, and Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie is involved as well.
Ah... hah hah hah... THE USUAL SUSPECTS

http://kwout.com/cutout/7/kz/jt/94x_bor.jpg

The Connection: Harry Reid and Sheriff Gillespie - 'Nox & Friends (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/2014/04/14/the-connection-harry-reid-and-sheriff-gillespie/)


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The Connection: Harry Reid and Sheriff Gillespie

By Kathy (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/author/kathy/) | April 14, 2014 (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/2014/04/14/the-connection-harry-reid-and-sheriff-gillespie/) | Evil Left (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/category/lefties/evil-left/), GANGSTER GOVERNMENT: (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/category/gangster-government/), Lefty Hypocrites (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/category/lefties/lefty-hypocrites/), Sheriff (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/category/law-enforcement/sheriff/)
Over the weekend many of us were following the events at the Bundy Ranch and wondering why Sheriff Gillespie wasn’t siding with the rancher.
In our discussion of the incident our very own tannngl brought to light the fact that Harry Reid was working on a deal with a Chinese firm to build a solar farm in Clarke County.
On March 20th, the LVMPD posted on their Facebook page a picture of Harry Reid and Sheriff Dough Gillespie after Harry presented Gillespie with the ‘Sheriff of the Year’ award.
Here is the statement from their page:

U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid congratulates the sheriff! Today, LVMPD Sheriff Douglas Gillespie had the honor of being invited to the Las Vegas office of Senator Reid to receive an official proclamation congratulating the sheriff for being named “Sheriff of the Year” by the National Sheriffs’ Association.

The statement entered into the Congressional Record reads as follows:
Mr. President, I rise to honor Sheriff Doug Gillespie, of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, who was recently named the National Sheriffs’ Association’s 2014 Sheriff of the Year. The Ferris E. Lucas Award for Sheriff of the Year is awarded to recognize an outstanding sheriff for contributions made to improve the office of sheriff at the local, State, and national levels, and for involvement in the community above and beyond the responsibilities required. By this measure, I can think of no one more deserving than Sheriff Gillespie. His tireless service as sheriff has made the Las Vegas metropolitan area a safer and better place to live, work, and raise a family. Sheriff Gillespie has diligently served the Las Vegas community for 33 years as a metropolitan police officer, the last 7 as sheriff. Under Sheriff Gillespie’s leadership, metro has become one of only 72 intelligence-gathering fusion centers in the country. It has won the Webber Seavey Award, given for quality in law enforcement by the International Association of Chiefs of Police, for an outreach effort to strengthen police relations in the Las Vegas area. Metro is also one of only 32 departments to achieve the highest standard of accreditation from the Commission on Accreditation for Law Enforcement Agencies. In addition to his position as sheriff, he has served in many leadership roles in other law enforcement organizations, such as board director of the National Sheriff’s Association Executive Committee, chair of the Homeland Security Committee for the Major City Chiefs Association, vice chair of the Nevada High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area Task Force, finance committee chair for the Nevada Commission for Homeland Security, and president of the Major County Sheriff’s Association. On behalf of the U.S. Senate, I congratulate Sheriff Doug Gillespie on receiving the Ferris E. Lucas Award for Sheriff of the Year and look forward to the continuation of a career that has already made Nevada very proud.



Reid, knowing full well when the BLM would descend on the Bundy Ranch, already had the sheriff in his hip pocket by schmoozing him with an award. Furthermore, according to the National Sheriff’s Association, the ceremony to present these awards (there are additional recipients) is scheduled to be held in Ft Worth in June, yet Gillespie received his ‘official proclamation’ three months early.
They don’t come much dirtier than Harry or cheaper than Gillespie.
~Kathy

donnay
04-17-2014, 04:38 PM
Harry Reid is a traitor and needs to be taken into custody! :mad:

pcosmar
04-17-2014, 04:41 PM
Harry Reid is a traitor and needs to be taken into custody! :mad:

and his little dogs too.

dannno
04-17-2014, 04:42 PM
Imagine the damage Reid and Hillary could do together in the Executive Branch, it makes me sick.

AuH20
04-17-2014, 04:42 PM
The feds are planning for round 2?

Pericles
04-17-2014, 04:44 PM
Ah... hah hah hah... THE USUAL SUSPECTS

http://kwout.com/cutout/7/kz/jt/94x_bor.jpg

The Connection: Harry Reid and Sheriff Gillespie - 'Nox & Friends (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/2014/04/14/the-connection-harry-reid-and-sheriff-gillespie/)


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The Connection: Harry Reid and Sheriff Gillespie

By Kathy (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/author/kathy/) | April 14, 2014 (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/2014/04/14/the-connection-harry-reid-and-sheriff-gillespie/) | Evil Left (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/category/lefties/evil-left/), GANGSTER GOVERNMENT: (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/category/gangster-government/), Lefty Hypocrites (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/category/lefties/lefty-hypocrites/), Sheriff (http://hardnoxandfriends.com/category/law-enforcement/sheriff/)
Over the weekend many of us were following the events at the Bundy Ranch and wondering why Sheriff Gillespie wasn’t siding with the rancher.
In our discussion of the incident our very own tannngl brought to light the fact that Harry Reid was working on a deal with a Chinese firm to build a solar farm in Clarke County.
On March 20th, the LVMPD posted on their Facebook page a picture of Harry Reid and Sheriff Dough Gillespie after Harry presented Gillespie with the ‘Sheriff of the Year’ award.
Here is the statement from their page:
U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid congratulates the sheriff! Today, LVMPD Sheriff Douglas Gillespie had the honor of being invited to the Las Vegas office of Senator Reid to receive an official proclamation congratulating the sheriff for being named “Sheriff of the Year” by the National Sheriffs’ Association.

The statement entered into the Congressional Record reads as follows:
Mr. President, I rise to honor Sheriff Doug Gillespie, of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, who was recently named the National Sheriffs’ Association’s 2014 Sheriff of the Year. The Ferris E. Lucas Award for Sheriff of the Year is awarded to recognize an outstanding sheriff for contributions made to improve the office of sheriff at the local, State, and national levels, and for involvement in the community above and beyond the responsibilities required. By this measure, I can think of no one more deserving than Sheriff Gillespie. His tireless service as sheriff has made the Las Vegas metropolitan area a safer and better place to live, work, and raise a family. Sheriff Gillespie has diligently served the Las Vegas community for 33 years as a metropolitan police officer, the last 7 as sheriff. Under Sheriff Gillespie’s leadership, metro has become one of only 72 intelligence-gathering fusion centers in the country. It has won the Webber Seavey Award, given for quality in law enforcement by the International Association of Chiefs of Police, for an outreach effort to strengthen police relations in the Las Vegas area. Metro is also one of only 32 departments to achieve the highest standard of accreditation from the Commission on Accreditation for Law Enforcement Agencies. In addition to his position as sheriff, he has served in many leadership roles in other law enforcement organizations, such as board director of the National Sheriff’s Association Executive Committee, chair of the Homeland Security Committee for the Major City Chiefs Association, vice chair of the Nevada High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area Task Force, finance committee chair for the Nevada Commission for Homeland Security, and president of the Major County Sheriff’s Association. On behalf of the U.S. Senate, I congratulate Sheriff Doug Gillespie on receiving the Ferris E. Lucas Award for Sheriff of the Year and look forward to the continuation of a career that has already made Nevada very proud.


Reid, knowing full well when the BLM would descend on the Bundy Ranch, already had the sheriff in his hip pocket by schmoozing him with an award. Furthermore, according to the National Sheriff’s Association, the ceremony to present these awards (there are additional recipients) is scheduled to be held in Ft Worth in June, yet Gillespie received his ‘official proclamation’ three months early.
They don’t come much dirtier than Harry or cheaper than Gillespie.
~Kathy

Doug Gillespie gets around - his link with the Erik Scott murder via the coronor's office and conducting a review of the shooting which was ruled (wait for it) justified.

http://www.erikbscott.com/

It has only been the adverse publicity that the Scott case, and several others, has focused on Metro and Gillespie, that has caused him to discipline, even fire, some particularly notorious officers, such as Derek Collings, as I reported in Update 10.2. (https://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/the-erik-scott-case-update-10-2-reprised/) and Jesus Arevalo. (http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/fired-killing-gulf-war-vet-former-metro-cop-jesus-arevalo-still-gets-disability-pay) When the Metro union boss, Collins, threatened that any officer subpoenaed to testify at an inquest would take the Fifth, Sheriff Gillespie did nothing. In a professional agency, no officer would so much as think of saying such a thing. The mere idea that any officer would take the Fifth Amendment on the stand in testifying about his official actions would be unthinkable. It would destroy public confidence in law enforcement, such confidence being very scarce in Las Vegas. Not in Gillespie’s Metro; the unthinkable is policy.
Those familiar with the Scott case know the depth of the cover up: mishandling of evidence, tampering with and intimidation of witnesses, illegally searching Scott’s home and seizing his property–to say nothing of his murder–and the list of malpractice and potential crimes goes on and on.

https://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.com/2014/03/30/the-erik-scott-case-update-21-the-wages-of-sin/

pcosmar
04-17-2014, 04:51 PM
The feds are planning for round 2?

I would expect so.

No one.
Absolutely NO One believes this is over..
Getting the cattle back was not the end.


It’s not about cattle it’s about civil rights…

AuH20
04-17-2014, 04:53 PM
I hope some our boys have tricks up their sleeves, if you get my drift.

AuH20
04-17-2014, 04:54 PM
They have to have a fed on the inside.

AuH20
04-17-2014, 04:55 PM
Hopefully, they feed them false info.

dannno
04-17-2014, 05:02 PM
They have to have a fed on the inside.

I'm sure there are more than one, unfortunately.

aGameOfThrones
04-17-2014, 05:06 PM
During a ‘Hashtags & Headlines’ event at the Paris Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, Reid referred to Bundy supporters as “Nothing more than domestic terrorists,” adding, “I repeat: what happened there was domestic terrorism.”


Fedcoats. Isn't funny that the document he took an oath had men who were called the same?

Brian4Liberty
04-17-2014, 05:11 PM
Harry Reid hates us for our freedoms. Harry Reid is a terrorist.

puppetmaster
04-17-2014, 05:19 PM
What a target rich environment ....just the senario for my SUPER SASS. Happy I did not have to fire a round on my fellow Americans... The only terrorist here is you Harry, my pos senator.

tommyrp12
04-17-2014, 05:48 PM
Terrorist ? http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu107/bentom187/th12ewddd21_zpsa472417b.jpg SHELTER IN PLACE!


Seriously, fuck that guy (Reid).

AuH20
04-17-2014, 06:22 PM
I think someone just crossed the Rubicon. Stay frosty, my friends.

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 06:42 PM
This is wonderful. Rand, Lee, Amash, Massie, all liberty candidates need to hit him on this. He is declaring citizens an enemy of the state and therefore allowed by law for the president to drone attack. Without trial.

I can't emphasize how important this is. Time to distinguish the SPLC's definition of a domestic terror group.

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 06:44 PM
I think someone just crossed the Rubicon. Stay frosty, my friends.

Yes, yes they did. This should be a hammer against an anvil.

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 06:57 PM
I'm gonna keep bumping. Harry Reid has just said that he would allow the full weight of the government to come down on the families that participated in this event. Men, women, children.

tod evans
04-17-2014, 07:02 PM
I'm gonna keep bumping. Harry Reid has just said that he would allow the full weight of the government to come down on the families that participated in this event. Men, women, children.

Quoting myself from another thread because it applies here too;


Dude, you're talking about psychopathic tax-ticks here....

They are only too happy to crawl over the dead and maimed bodies of their countrymen for a place at the tit...

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 07:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/mlexxfD.png

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 07:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/L7BdjeN.png

Anti Federalist
04-17-2014, 07:15 PM
Fuck you Harry.

I'm a material supporter of terrorism then.

Bring it or shut the fuck up.

Open fire motherfuckers.

I'm tired of all the blah blah blah.

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 07:21 PM
http://i.imgur.com/naw96Sg.png

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 07:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/yiyK5Xp.png

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 07:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/cfS60E0.png

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 07:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/979Vog1.png

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 07:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/zMdiwaM.png

Deborah K
04-17-2014, 07:39 PM
http://i61.tinypic.com/2u59p44.jpg


Can someone change this and add Reid's name to it?

Anti Federalist
04-17-2014, 07:47 PM
Not intentionally malevolent.

phill4paul
04-17-2014, 07:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/VxJB9S9.png

2young2vote
04-17-2014, 07:50 PM
They throw the word "terrorist" around like its going out of style. They make torturing and killing "terrorists" completely legal, even without a trial, then start labeling every group who opposes them as terrorists. You don't support the terrorists, do you?

I actually am not surprised the government lover called the protesters terrorists. What I am more distraught with is his accusation that the protesters were lining children up, as if they were going to use them as cannon fodder against the BLM.

That is probably one of the most disturbing lies I've ever heard from a national political figure.

AuH20
04-17-2014, 07:54 PM
They throw the word "terrorist" around like its going out of style. They make torturing and killing "terrorists" completely legal, even without a trial, then start labeling every group who opposes them as terrorists. You don't support the terrorists, do you?

I actually am not surprised the government lover called the protesters terrorists. What I am more distraught with is his accusation that the protesters were lining children up, as if they were going to use them as cannon fodder against the BLM.

That is probably one of the most disturbing lies I've ever heard from a national political figure.

True. But did it really surprise you? They have done far worse than they have communicated.

Weston White
04-17-2014, 08:01 PM
That guy us completely delusional! Children lined up as cannon fodder, really? Automatic sniper rifles, really? No valid issue of redress, really?

You gotta love it, from assault weapons to sniper rifles, and when put in the hands of their own hired thugs, they magically become personal defense weapons.

Call for that idiot’s resignation and cast him away from all future politics. That man is a menace to reasonability.

2young2vote
04-17-2014, 08:03 PM
True. But did it really surprise you? They have done far worse than they have communicated.

To be honest, I am surprised it wasn't just a subtle jab. I think the openness and confidence of the statement are what made it so disturbing.

green73
04-17-2014, 08:37 PM
How's this not on the front page?

No1butPaul
04-17-2014, 09:15 PM
They throw the word "terrorist" around like its going out of style.

Kind of like how they used to throw around the word "communist" during the McCarthy era. It seems so ironic to me.

osan
04-17-2014, 09:25 PM
Automatic weapons? That's news to me.

I wonder what they would have said had I showed with the M60.

AuH20
04-17-2014, 09:26 PM
Keep pushing Harry. Keep waging war on rural America. You may not like the end result:

http://www.dailyyonder.com/largest-share-army-recruits-come-ruralexurban-america/2009/03/02/1962

http://www.dailyyonder.com/files/imagecache/story_default/imagefield/ArmyRecruits2008.jpg

http://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/img-20140405-00074.jpg

acptulsa
04-17-2014, 09:27 PM
I wonder what they would have said had I showed with the M60.

OPEN FIRE!

LibertyEagle
04-17-2014, 09:37 PM
I would expect so.

No one.
Absolutely NO One believes this is over..
Getting the cattle back was not the end.

You mean the cattle that they didn't kill.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/graphic-photographic-evidence-slaughtered-cows-bundy-ranch/

LibertyEagle
04-17-2014, 09:39 PM
Kind of like how they used to throw around the word "communist" during the McCarthy era. It seems so ironic to me.

Actually, they really aren't comparable. But, you have bought the story quite well I see. By the way, if our government had been cleaned out of them, not to mention the media and the schools, we wouldn't be in near the mess we are in today.

NIU Students for Liberty
04-17-2014, 09:58 PM
This is probably the course of action that Reid and Team Blue would have taken:

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/04/20/waco_fire_wide-9203577b23bd582c55a3ac54d95e03ced5cd9573-s6-c30.jpg

puppetmaster
04-17-2014, 10:20 PM
And reid calls himself an LDS member. He should be excommunicated ....he is the devil pure and simple.

kcchiefs6465
04-17-2014, 10:28 PM
How's this not on the front page?
Drudge

Carlybee
04-17-2014, 10:56 PM
Can Bundy supporters get a court order to make Reid cease and desist with that kind of accusation. Labeling someone a domestic terrorist has a lot of implications...ie, putting a target on their back, putting them on a no fly list etc. And that could extend to those of us who have donated to this effort.
I take it very seriously. It's one thing for some guy on a political forum comment section to say that but this is a powerful, sitting Senator with a possible monetary interest in the outcome of what happens to that ranch. He is using his position and power to label an entire group of American citizens who have chosen to exercise their Constitutional rights. At the very least there should be a move for some sort of congressional censure by our so called representatives.

Anti Federalist
04-17-2014, 11:00 PM
Can Bundy supporters get a court order to make Reid cease and desist with that kind of accusation. Labeling someone a domestic terrorist has a lot of implications...ie, putting a target on their back, putting them on a no fly list etc. And that could extend to those of us who have donated to this effort.
I take it very seriously. It's one thing for some guy on a political forum comment section to say that but this is a powerful, sitting Senator with a possible monetary interest in the outcome of what happens to that ranch. He is using his position and power to label an entire group of American citizens who have chosen to exercise their Constitutional rights.

See ya in Camp FEMA...

Carlybee
04-17-2014, 11:03 PM
See ya in Camp FEMA...

Screw Camp FEMA. We need to stop rolling over for this type of behavior and insist that our representatives actually represent us.

Anti Federalist
04-17-2014, 11:05 PM
Screw Camp FEMA. We need to stop rolling over for this type of behavior and insist that our representatives actually represent us.

We did.

Harry Reid said fuck each and every one of you.

Now what?

Philhelm
04-17-2014, 11:10 PM
Call for that idiot’s resignation and cast him away from all future politics.

I'll accept a resignation over his dead body.

Carlybee
04-17-2014, 11:10 PM
We did.

Harry Reid said fuck each and every one of you.

Now what?

You consider Harry Reid a representative? Where are the members of Congress who would normally support the second amendment? Why are they not calling Reid out on his accusations? The Dems are always the ones who say words have consequences...well Reid's words will have consequences when some law is drafted to stop people from exercising their 2nd and 4th amendment rights and being labeled a terrorist when they do.

kcchiefs6465
04-17-2014, 11:12 PM
Screw Camp FEMA. We need to stop rolling over for this type of behavior and insist that our representatives actually represent us.
Study: US is an Oligarchy (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?449924-Study-U-S-is-an-Oligarchy)

pcosmar
04-17-2014, 11:12 PM
You mean the cattle that they didn't kill.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/graphic-photographic-evidence-slaughtered-cows-bundy-ranch/

I mean it was not over cattle. It was over Freedom.
Stealing the cattle was the push..

But as he said to the sheriff,, Disarm the BLM. remove them (he didn't)

It was not a request.

kcchiefs6465
04-17-2014, 11:13 PM
You consider Harry Reid a representative? Where are the members of Congress who would normally support the second amendment? Why are they not calling Reid out on his accusations? The Dems are always the ones who say words have consequences...well Reid's words will have consequences when some law is drafted to stop people from exercising their 2nd and 4th amendment rights and being labeled a terrorist when they do.
http://mises.org/media/categories/238/No-Treason-The-Constitution-of-No-Authority

Carlybee
04-17-2014, 11:14 PM
Study: US is an Oligarchy (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?449924-Study-U-S-is-an-Oligarchy)

Then there is not much point in supporting any politician then

Anti Federalist
04-18-2014, 12:12 AM
You consider Harry Reid a representative? Where are the members of Congress who would normally support the second amendment? Why are they not calling Reid out on his accusations? The Dems are always the ones who say words have consequences...well Reid's words will have consequences when some law is drafted to stop people from exercising their 2nd and 4th amendment rights and being labeled a terrorist when they do.

Good questions.

I'm going to assume from their collective silence, that they support and are in agreement with the FedCoat's actions here.

Not like I'm surprised...they all cheer when their Praetorians execute us.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EMBINmsMrss/Uk8c-ZxYCWI/AAAAAAAAFak/FKEbOFBmkoQ/s1600/CONGRESSIONAL+COWARDS+APPLAUD+the+KILLING+of+UNARM ED+MOTHER+by+hyper-armed+Capitol+HIll+police+traffic+cordon.PNG

Origanalist
04-18-2014, 03:12 AM
I heard this on the way home, I figured it would get a reaction here. :)

Harry Reid just declared war.

Right Wing
04-18-2014, 04:25 AM
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he believes the supporters who rallied around Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy in his fight against the federal government are “domestic terrorists” and Bundy does not respect his country.

The Las Vegas Journal-Review reported that Reid, D-Nev., made the comments at an event Thursday hosted by the paper called “Hashtags & Headlines.”

Federal land managers backed down in a weekend standoff with Bundy after hundreds of states' rights protesters, including armed militia members, showed up to protest federal officials seizing his cattle. Some protesters had their guns drawn and pointed toward law enforcement, some of whom were also armed. But ultimately, no shots were fired and the Bureau of Land Management reported that officials left over safety concerns.

Reid had harsh words for these supporters, saying the government cannot stop pursuing the issue.

“They’re nothing more than domestic terrorists,” Reid said, according to the paper. “I repeat: what happened there was domestic terrorism.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/17/sen-reid-calls-supporters-nevada-rancher-bundy-domestic-terrorists/


Herein lies the problem with the language of the NDAA and the DHS memo. The word terrorist has been used by a U.S. Senator in labelling a group of protesters. According to the language, could the case not be made for these people to be held indefinitely under the NDAA provisions?

DamianTV
04-18-2014, 05:43 AM
Lets be clear here. The ONLY Domestic Terrorist in this situation is Dirty Harry Reid himself.

Henry Rogue
04-18-2014, 05:47 AM
Harry Reid relishes blood on his hands. Nothing like escalating tension, Harry you fascist prick.

phill4paul
04-18-2014, 06:14 AM
http://i.imgur.com/KOLBXYo.png

phill4paul
04-18-2014, 06:24 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Lb89qlm.png

phill4paul
04-18-2014, 06:38 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?449964-Harry-Reid-Calls-Cliven-Bundy-Supporters-%93Domestic-Terrorists-%94-Fed-Task-Force-Being-Formed

donnay
04-18-2014, 07:55 AM
I would expect so.

No one.
Absolutely NO One believes this is over..
Getting the cattle back was not the end.

It's about stealing property. Under Agenda 21.

donnay
04-18-2014, 07:58 AM
And reid calls himself an LDS member. He should be excommunicated ....he is the devil pure and simple.

Kind of like Glenn Beck. These are the Judas goats.

pcosmar
04-18-2014, 08:18 AM
Lets be clear here. The ONLY Domestic Terrorist in this situation is Dirty Harry Reid himself.

NO.. He may be the leader, but everyone that was working for him. Every BLM mercenary were Terrorists as well.

AuH20
04-18-2014, 09:33 AM
There are a few progs commenting on Breitbart that the Branch Davidians and the Weavers both deserved to die for their socially odd views. We've entered the "no more talking" stage. They want us dead.

Carlybee
04-18-2014, 09:36 AM
There are a few progs commenting on Breitbart that the Branch Davidians and the Weavers deserved to die for their socially odd views. We've entered the "no more talking" stage. They want us dead.

I've already seen comments saying that the BLM should have shot Bundy and his family for "squatting on taxpayer owned land". This is the party of tolerance and sites like the Daily Kos and other libtard media outlets have done nothing but add fuel. I think we know who the terrorists are.

acptulsa
04-18-2014, 09:50 AM
I've already seen comments saying that the BLM should have shot Bundy and his family for "squatting on taxpayer owned land". This is the party of tolerance and sites like the Daily Kos and other libtard media outlets have done nothing but add fuel. I think we know who the terrorists are.

And, of course, the fact that his house sits on land which has been in his family for some one hundred forty years is irrelevant.

If you're a socialist, and at the risk of being redundant, a thief.

Carlybee
04-18-2014, 10:04 AM
And, of course, the fact that his house sits on land which has been in his family for some one hundred forty years is irrelevant.

If you're a socialist, and at the risk of being redundant, a thief.

Socialists don't believe in property ownership, they want everything to be state owned and by state owned I mean federally owned. They are so concerned with being part of a collective, they have lost all semblance of the importance of the individual as well as any semblance of the intellectual curiosity that is involved in questioning authority which must always be questioned in order to recognize tyranny. To them, tyranny is a vehicle to be used at whim to make the end justify the means. The absolute ignorance, hypocrisy and just plain old immorality involved in the effort to not only label but potentially prosecute and annihilate the individual is staggering.

pcosmar
04-18-2014, 10:12 AM
We've entered the "no more talking" stage. They want us dead.

Well,,
as long as we understand each other. :(

AuH20
04-18-2014, 10:18 AM
Talk about making their heads spin. Kudos to the staffer in Roy Blunt's office for being cognizant of what being an American entails:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/16/1292469/--That-s-how-our-country-was-founded


Next, I called Sen. Blunt's KC office and informed the man that answered that I am a constituent of Sen. Blunt's; I also asked what position Sen. Blunt had taken on this standoff. He first noted that Blunt has not issued a statement, but that there were "property rights issues" involved in the standoff. I asked him what he meant by that, and he responded that Bundy's cattle were his property, to which I responded that Bundy's cattle may be his property but they were grazing and fattening themselves on federal land, which is not Bundy's property. The Blunt staffer then tried to argue that there were "issues" regarding the ownership of the land and, once again, property rights were involved.

At this point, I decided to ask this federal government employee and agent of a United States senator whether it was appropriate for hundreds of armed men to show up in force in an attempt to intimidate federal agents and defy a federal judge's lawful order by show of arms. Without flinching, the person answering the phones at a United States senator's office stated, "Well, that's how our country was founded." I was absolutely floored. I asked him, "did you really just compare these militia members to our founding fathers?" He responded, "I didn't say I was comparing them, you said that." I responded by noting that he was the person who had answered my simple, softball question about whether it was okay for heavily armed men, massed in force, to intimidate federal agents by immediately resorting to the founding of the United States. I asked him the question several more times and he would not disavow what the armed men had done in the desert. I noted the presence of sniper rifles held by the militia men, and he said "there were no sniper rifles there." I closed our conversation by asking him if he was an employee of Sen. Blunt, to which he responded that he was; I then said that we are all in very deep trouble when one of the two major parties in this nation supports armed insurrection and the ignoring of a valid court order, and that his answers to me were both pathetic and unacceptable.

My conversations this morning with Sen. Blunt's staffers shook me to the core. Think about it: employees of a United States senator cannot and will not condemn hundreds of armed maniacs showing up to threaten agents of the federal government who were there to enforce a valid federal court's order. Instead, these staffers blamed the federal government for what happened in Nevada. This way danger lies, ladies and gentlemen--if the power of the courts is subject to who has the most guns, the rule of law in this nation is sunk. And when elected United States senators and their staff either side with the gun-toting mob or are too afraid to challenge them, we are in deep shit. I encourage you to contact your representatives to get their thoughts on this matter, and also to contact your local media to follow up on the politicians' views. I think this standoff and "victory" by the crazies is a really big deal that has not gotten nearly enough discussion in the media.
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Sounds to me like someone doesn't know what country she's in. heh. We leased the country to you guys for the last 100 years. But by my math, that lease is almost up, darlin.

HOLLYWOOD
04-18-2014, 10:25 AM
Man, Harry Reid has been a wheeler and dealer to profiteering for decades, here's a story I dug up. This is how Politician "Lawyers" game the system ans decieve those trying to follow their scams.


http://blogs.rgj.com/factchecker/2012/06/06/reader-asks-if-harry-reid-profited-from-land-deals-involving-highway-wind-farm/

The AP’s story (http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_4476995) about Reid’s land transactions with his friend Jay Brown came out in 2006. According to the article, Reid bought what the AP called "undeveloped residential property on Las Vegas’ booming outskirts" in 1998 for about $400,000, and bought a second, adjacent parcel jointly with Brown, a former casino lawyer. In 2001, Reid sold the first parcel for the same price to a holding company that Brown created, AP said. Then in 2004, Brown’s company sold the land to other developers, and Reid got $1.1 million of the proceeds. So according to the records that AP looked at, it seemed as though Reid got his $400,000 back when he sold the land to the company in 2001, and also got $1.1 million on top of that when the company sold the land several years later, even though he no longer owned it.

On top of that, AP reported, Reid never disclosed on his Senate financial disclosure statement the 2001 sale of the land to the holding company, and when he collected the $1.1 million in 2004, he reported it on that year’s statement as a sale of land he owned personally.

Reid’s office, however, said no money changed hands when Reid transferred the land to the holding company in 2001; instead, Reid got an ownership stake in the company equal to the value of his land. If true, that means Reid didn’t get paid for the property until the company sold it in 2004, when he received nearly triple what he paid for it originally. Reed’s aides said he continued to pay taxes on the property and didn’t disclose the change in ownership because he considered it a "technical transfer."
Reid asked the Senate Ethics Committee whether he should amend his annual financial disclosure statements to reflect what had actually happened with the land. Then several days later, without waiting for a response from the panel, Reid did adjust his disclosure (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-10-16-reid_x.htm) statement to reflect the circumstances of the land transfer, and also reported two much smaller land deals that had previously been unknown to the public. That pretty much put an end to press stories about the deal, until the matter was recently revived by the Angle campaign.

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_4476995

Senate Dem Leader Reid got windfall on land deal

By John Solomon and Kathleen Hennessey
The Associated PressPosted:
10/12/2006 01:00:00 AM MDT | Updated: 8 years ago

Washington - Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid collected a $1.1 million windfall on a Las Vegas land sale even though he hadn't personally owned the property for three years, property deeds show.
In the process, Reid did not disclose to Congress an earlier sale in which he transferred his land to a company created by a friend and took a financial stake in that company, according to records and interviews.
The Nevada Democrat's deal was engineered by Jay Brown, a longtime friend and former casino lawyer whose name surfaced in a major political bribery trial over the summer and in prior organized-crime investigations.
He has never been charged with wrongdoing - except for a 1981 federal securities complaint that was settled out of court.
Land deeds obtained by The Associated Press during a review of Reid's business dealings show:
The deal began in 1998 when Reid bought undeveloped residential property on Las Vegas' booming outskirts for about $400,000. Reid bought one lot outright and a second parcel jointly with Brown.
One of the sellers was a developer who was benefiting from a government land swap that Reid supported. The seller never talked to Reid.
In 2001, Reid sold the land for the same price to a limited-liability corporation created by Brown. The senator didn't disclose the sale on his annual public ethics report or tell Congress he had any stake in Brown's company. He continued to report to Congress that he personally owned the land.
After getting local officials to rezone the property for a shopping center, Brown's company sold the land in 2004 to other developers, and Reid took $1.1 million of the proceeds, nearly trip ling the senator's investment. Reid reported it to Congress as a personal land sale.
The complex dealings allowed Reid to transfer ownership, legal liability and some tax consequences to Brown's company without public knowledge but still collect a seven-figure payoff nearly three years later.

Reid hung up the phone when questioned about the deal during an AP interview last week.

The senator's aides said no money changed hands in 2001 and that Reid instead got an ownership stake in Brown's company equal to the value of his land. Reid continued to pay taxes on the land and didn't disclose the deal because he considered it a "technical transfer," they said.
They also said they have no documents proving Reid's stake in the company because it was an understanding between friends. The 1998 purchase "was a normal business transaction at market prices," Reid spokesman Jim Manley said.

AuH20
04-18-2014, 10:47 AM
Sound familiar? We are living through a repeat of history:


He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance. He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures

Warrior_of_Freedom
04-18-2014, 10:49 AM
Anyone realize the property use extortion was basically property tax for land he supposedly didn't own to begin with? What's next, having to pay membership access to take your child to a public park? Get rid of all property extortion!

tod evans
04-18-2014, 10:53 AM
I think this standoff and "victory" by the crazies is a really big deal that has not gotten nearly enough discussion in the media.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...ry-was-founded

Well ya' fuckin' whiner how about getting up off your ass and march your pansy self out to Nevada and back "your governments" play?

I'll tell ya' here and now that it's not my government out there trying to take a mans livestock...

Nor is it my courts attempting to authorize such behavior..

Your "media" is a large part of what's wrong with this country, them and your politicians...:mad:

Warrior_of_Freedom
04-18-2014, 10:58 AM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...ry-was-founded

Well ya' fuckin' whiner how about getting up off your ass and march your pansy self out to Nevada and back "your governments" play?

I'll tell ya' here and now that it's not my government out there trying to take a mans livestock...

Nor is it my courts attempting to authorize such behavior..

Your "media" is a large part of what's wrong with this country, them and your politicians...:mad:
Don't look at me. I voted for Obama. He just needs a few more years to fix our problems. Give the guy a chance, he's only had 6 so far.

tod evans
04-18-2014, 10:59 AM
Don't look at me. I voted for Obama. He just needs a few more years to fix our problems. Give the guy a chance, he's only had 6 so far.

Bush started it....:rolleyes:

oyarde
04-18-2014, 11:25 AM
Harry is the perfect example of the human experiment as a general failure.If he was my kid I would drown him .

Acala
04-18-2014, 11:57 AM
This is good. Resistance, if it comes, does not come all at once. It usually starts with a small act of defiance by a small minority of the people. The tyrants respond to this defiance with the only means they know - more tyranny. This converts more people to the resistance and new acts of defiance crop up. This stimulates more tyranny. Etc. It seems to be almost an inevitable cascade once it gets going. We appear to be at the threshold of getting it going. The Fedcoats' next move is critical. There are literally millions of well-armed American who hate the government, but they need to be pushed over the line. A really heavy-handed move by the Fedcoats now could see the mobilization of a formidable citizen army VERY quickly. We may live to hear another shot heard round the world.

JK/SEA
04-18-2014, 11:58 AM
Well,,
as long as we understand each other. :(

we need to send them some flowers and a nice Hall Marx card.

phill4paul
04-18-2014, 12:09 PM
I've already seen comments saying that the BLM should have shot Bundy and his family for "squatting on taxpayer owned land". This is the party of tolerance and sites like the Daily Kos and other libtard media outlets have done nothing but add fuel. I think we know who the terrorists are.


And, yet, they were outraged at how OWS was treated by government goons while "squatting on taxpayer owned land."

Pericles
04-18-2014, 12:19 PM
I wonder what they would have said had I showed with the M60.

Tank or medium machine gun?

HOLLYWOOD
04-18-2014, 12:33 PM
Propaganda continues... from Las Vegas Sun news. This is a oned sided, deflection, protection article

Politics: Facts that disprove conspiracy theory about Harry Reid, Cliven Bundy and solar power

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/apr/17/facts-disprove-conspiracy-theory-about-sen-harry-r/#livefyreComments

BTW, doing a vetting check on this reporter... Progressive born and raised in Chicago, followed by Marxist Indoctrination at Harvard...


By Karoun Demirjian (http://www.lasvegassun.com/staff/karoun/) (contact (http://www.lasvegassun.com/staff/karoun/contact/)) https://ssl.gstatic.com/images/icons/gplus-16.png (https://plus.google.com/104036698976568773357?rel=author)

Thursday, April 17, 2014 | 2 a.m.
Washington —
http://photos.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2011/07/05/laughlin_t198.JPG?cdfb4b79ec677a25380d4d2ab25aad58 f36db2ce (http://www.lasvegassun.com/photos/2011/jul/05/123310/) Justin Bowen
Laughlin and Bullhead City, Ariz., as seen in 2011.
Future Uncertain in Bundy-BLM Dispute (http://www.lasvegassun.com/photos/galleries/2014/apr/13/0313Bundy/)

http://photos.lasvegassun.com/media/img/photos/2014/04/13/0413Bundy03_t320.JPG?0f3ddbed359eab2c0b293f3dd101a 0fde643f8b3
The conspiracy theory about Sen. Harry Reid started soon after the Cliven Bundy story went national.

The theory: The Senate majority leader masterminded the takeover of Bundy’s cattle in Gold Butte to clear land for a solar facility that Chinese company ENN hoped to build in Southern Nevada. That thought appears to have originated at the blog Godfather Politics (http://godfatherpolitics.com/15161/harry-reid-sons-solar-power-scheme-connected-bundy-ranch-standoff/) and was picked up by writers in more mainstream conservative media outlets, such as NewsMax (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bundy-ranch-rory-reid-harry-reid/2014/04/13/id/565328/) and the Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/14/phillips-what-did-harry-reid-know-and-when-did-he-/). The story also suggested that Reid had his former aide, Neil Kornze, do his dirty work as the week-old Bureau of Land Management director.

Reid’s spokeswoman, Kristen Orthman, said any connection between Bundy and the solar project is “bogus.” She added: “People find anything to label him as, or to connect things to that aren’t connectable. … If it wasn’t this, they would be talking about something else.”
It’s true that Reid had been working on a solar project in Nevada. But based on the facts, the rest of the theory doesn’t pass the smell test. Here’s why:

Geography: Bundy’s ranch is in Bunkerville, about 75 miles northeast of Las Vegas. The land that Reid identified for the solar plant was about 90 miles south of Las Vegas in Laughlin. That puts the Bundy ranch and the solar plant site about a three-hour drive apart. They’re simply not in the same part of the state.

Another project comes close. But not that close: Bundy’s home in the Mojave desert is closer to the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone, (http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/MINERALS__REALTY__AND_RESOURCE_PROTECTION_/energy/renewable_references.Par.48679.File.dat/Regional%20Mitigation%20Strategy%20for%20the%20Dry %20Lake%20Solar%20Energy%20Zone,%20Technical%20Not e%20444%20%28March%202014%29.pdf) a corridor that has been slated for renewable energy development. The BLM is planning a mitigation strategy that may stretch toward the area where Bundy has been grazing his cows. But even there, the maps don’t match up closely enough to suggest that Bundy’s specific grazing land was the intended site of a solar facility. Also, the Chinese company ENN had not been planning a facility in the Dry Lake area.

Where Reid’s agenda and Bundy’s cattle grazing do overlap: Bundy’s cattle have been grazing on land that Reid and Rep. Steven Horsford, D-Nev., have targeted for future wilderness protections. Both Reid and Horsford have filed legislation to turn the Gold Butte area into a national conservation area (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/jan/29/committees-tweaks-yerington-land-swap-bill-may-doo/). But this is entirely separate from the solar project. A conservation status discourages development, and it’s near impossible to greenlight a solar project on conservation land.

The start of the Chinese solar project: Reid went to China in 2011 to lock down the deal. The ENN Mojave Energy project was supposed to help yank Southern Nevada’s flailing economy out of the recession and into the foreground of renewable energy development in America. Clark County fast-tracked the required reviews and approvals (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/jul/05/commission-backs-proposed-solar-energy-farm/?_ga=1.251423488.786775029.1397646544). But construction never started.

Where it got stuck: In June 2013, ENN said it was dumping the project (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/jun/14/company-dumps-big-laughlin-solar-project-says-mark/) because the “market will not support a project of this scale and nature at this time.” So right now, there is no massive Chinese-backed solar project in the works and certainly not one that requires the removal of Bundy’s cows.
The timelines don’t line up: Bundy’s battle with the BLM started in 1993 when he stopped paying his grazing fees, 18 years before anyone talked about putting Chinese money into the Nevada desert for renewable energy. Talk about the Chinese solar project started in 2011 and ended in 2013. And the Bundy-BLM confrontation came this month, long after the solar project died.

More on Kornze: It’s not exactly true that this was the first move of Reid’s former aide as BLM director. The roundup started April 5, and Kornze wasn’t confirmed by the Senate as BLM director until April 8.

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AuH20
04-18-2014, 01:35 PM
Propaganda continues... from Las Vegas Sun news. This is a oned sided, deflection, protection article

Politics: Facts that disprove conspiracy theory about Harry Reid, Cliven Bundy and solar power

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/apr/17/facts-disprove-conspiracy-theory-about-sen-harry-r/#livefyreComments

BTW, doing a vetting check on this reporter... Progressive born and raised in Chicago, followed by Marxist Indoctrination at Harvard...

Let her debunk this:

http://cdn.grumpyelder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Screenshot-BLM-website-Bundy-Ranch-002-540x304.png

phill4paul
04-18-2014, 01:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/kmSAq7G.png

Deborah K
04-18-2014, 01:59 PM
Man, Harry Reid has been a wheeler and dealer to profiteering for decades, here's a story I dug up. This is how Politician "Lawyers" game the system ans decieve those trying to follow their scams.



http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_4476995


I hope you sent that to Drudge.

Pericles
04-18-2014, 02:08 PM
See ya in Camp FEMA...

With very little work, a prison camp can be turned into a supply base.

Deborah K
04-18-2014, 02:21 PM
I honestly think, if we banded together and made a concerted effort to disseminate information in all the right places, we could turn the tide on Harry Reid. We could turn public opinion against him. It's a tactic that's used against our side constantly. It's time to turn the tables, and what better person to do it to.

HOLLYWOOD
04-18-2014, 03:59 PM
Latest theatrics...

http://www.mynews3.com/Sites/KSNV/Images/News3Logo.png

Heller calls for BLM hearings during appearance with Reid

http://www.mynews3.com/media/lib/166/8/7/c/87ca0107-3bb1-475e-b9ed-baaf30ae1936/FeatureImage.jpg

LAS VEGAS (KSNV MyNews3.com) — Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev., called for congressional hearings into the BLM’s stand-off with cattle rancher Cliven Bundy.

Heller requested the hearings during a joint appearance today with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., on the KSNV-TV News 3 program: “What’s Your Point?”

Nevada’s junior senator noted that he wants to determine “who drove” BLM policy on the tense standoff that ended Saturday.

Heller said that he took issue with the BLM “coming in with a paramilitary army. It made a lot of people very uncomfortable.”

“It’s obvious,” Reid noted, “the federal government can’t just walk away from this.”

Speaking Thursday, Reid equated Bundy and his supporters to “domestic terrorists.”

“Those people, who hold themselves out to be patriots are not,” Reid said at the earlier event. “If there ever were an example of this,” Reid noted, “these are the guys.”

The Reid and Heller appearance was billed as the first joint TV appearance by the state’s two U.S. senators. Hosts Jeff Gillan and Amy Tarkanian questioned the men about the potential extension of long-term unemployment benefits – both men support them despite opposition from House Republicans. The two are also opposed to the legalization of most forms of Internet gambling, arguing that they would hurt traditional Nevada casinos.

“Dean and I can spend three days on the things we disagree on,” Reid said, “but we also agree on a lot of stuff.”

They were clearly split, however, on the issue of Bundy’s push to continue to graze his cattle on BLM land despite court orders going back to the 1990s, forbidding him to do so while requiring him to pay grazing fees owed the federal government.

“What Sen. Reid called ‘domestic terrorists,’ I called ‘patriots,’ ” said Heller, noting that he had previously introduced legislation that would see Nevadans assume a larger percentage of the state’s land. The federal government owns nearly 87 percent of the state.

phill4paul
04-18-2014, 04:44 PM
Has Heller called Eric Holder and James Comey and asked what they and Reid discussed?

Occam's Banana
04-18-2014, 04:45 PM
Latest theatrics...

[B]oth men support [extension of long-term unemployment benefits] despite opposition from House Republicans. The two are also opposed to the legalization of most forms of Internet gambling, arguing that they would hurt traditional Nevada casinos.

“[Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev.] and I can spend three days on the things we disagree on,” Reid said, “but we also agree on a lot of stuff.”

Isn't it wonderful how "agreeable" everyone - Republican or Democrat - can be when they don't let pesky things like the Constitution get in the way?

Henry Rogue
04-18-2014, 06:51 PM
Isn't it wonderful how "agreeable" everyone - Republican or Democrat - can be when they don't let pesky things like the Constitution get in the way?

I noticed that too. I guess principles only go so far when it comes to being reelected. The differences aren't all that striking.

NoOneButPaul
04-18-2014, 07:50 PM
This is the first time in my life i've had respect for Fox News.

At least they're covering this. Them giving the Bundy's enough airtime and good exposure makes it less likely the government will murder them.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
04-18-2014, 07:55 PM
This is the first time in my life i've had respect for Fox News.

At least they're covering this. Them giving the Bundy's enough airtime and good exposure makes it less likely the government will murder them.


I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but never forget that much of this is driven by financial incentive. This story is all over the internet, where it gets decent airplay. Traditional news networks cover this because of competition.

Again, I don't disagree with you. Fox is more likely to cover this than some channel with an urban dweller's mentality. And that part is, at least, a good thing.

libertygrl
04-19-2014, 09:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEALuaoFC84

phill4paul
04-19-2014, 09:44 AM
http://i.imgur.com/s2xvvPz.png

Bundy supporters "own" title of "domestic terrorists."

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/bundy-supporters-party-welcome-domestic-terrorist-label


BUNKERVILLE — Wearing a cowboy hat and with a copy of the U.S. Constitution poking from his shirt pocket, controversial rancher Cliven Bundy on Friday asked dozens of supporters of his cattle-grazing feud with federal land managers what they thought of U.S. Sen. Harry Reid calling them “domestic terrorists.”

“Are you guys domestic terrorists?” he asked the crowd gathered around a stage near the north bank of the Virgin River.

The supporters, many wearing name tags that said “domestic terrorist,” erupted with cheers and applause.

“That’s what I thought. I thought Harry was right,” said the 67-year-old Bundy, who was accompanied by armed escorts.

He made the statement before a “Patriot Party” that started at 5 p.m. with music by Madison Rising and Ron Keel, who sang with Black Sabbath briefly in 1984. A party atmosphere among a few hundred people grew as more supporters trickled in around 5 p.m. Some people were cooling off in the river while dozens of armed militia members wearing camouflaged fatigues patrolled in and around the area.

Bundy was reacting to Reid’s comments Thursday in Las Vegas describing him as a law-breaker for not paying grazing fees and an estimated $1 million he owes the Bureau of Land Management for 20 years of non-compliance with public lands grazing privileges and defiance of court orders to remove up to 900 head of his desert cattle that roamed the Gold Butte area.

BLM agents and contractors on horseback and helicopters rounded up more than 300 of the herd but released them back to Bundy and his backers after an armed standoff on April 12. Because his militia supporters had rifles and assault weapons pointed to where federal officers guarded a corral holding the cattle, Reid on Thursday said a task force would be assigned to deal with what he described as domestic terrorists.

The Bundy camp had asked that the federal law enforcers remove their guns and secure them in a truck while the cattle were released.

At Friday’s news conference, Bundy said, “We’re not asking the county sheriff to disarm the citizens of the United States. We’re asking the United States to take the government-issued guns away from these people, and when they have uniforms on they shouldn’t be packing a gun.”

Asked what he’d do if he was served with a warrant for violating federal laws, Bundy answered, “What I said is, I’d yield to the sheriff but I wouldn’t yield to the feds.”

If the sheriff served the warrant he said he’d surrender. “Well, I’d have to.”

He said he has a right to graze his cattle on public land, not just a privilege.

“They’re rights. And I own those rights,” he said.

Bundy told his supporters that they were the heroes in the standoff, not him.

“You are the heroes. You people are the ones who did it,” Bundy told them.

When a few of the supporters were asked what they thought of Reid calling them “domestic terrorists,” they welcomed the label.

“Him and his organization are the terrorists of this country,” John Vasilchin, 85, of Las Vegas, said about Reid.

“They’ve been destroying this country for the last eight years and previously back to (President Bill) Clinton,” Vasilchin said.

Mike Vanderboegh said he will unveil the “2014 incitement to civil war trophy” to Reid on Saturday at the protest area.

“Harry Reid said this ain’t over. You better believe this ain’t over,” said Vanderboegh, a self-described “Second Amendment activist” from Alabama.

Sitting inside his camper off a road in view of the Virgin River, Thomas Firth offered his perspective on Reid’s domestic terrorist description.

“That would be typical of Senator Harry Reid,” said Firth, 64, of Anza, Calif. “Seems like it was a few years ago when we all got lumped either as a Christian, or a veteran or ‘you own a gun.’ You got lumped into that.

“If that’s the moniker they want to put on this, well so be it. I take a little bit different look at it. I think we are people who are actually standing up for our rights,” said Firth, a former cattle rancher.”

Star Hill, 45, made the short drive to the the rally from Logandale.

“For him to stoop to name-calling is probably pretty appropriate considering what people think of him,” she said about Reid.

She said she doesn’t consider herself a terrorist. Instead, “I consider myself somebody who came out to the river for a picnic.”

This is a developing story. Check back for updates.

Review-Journal writer Ben Botkin contributed to this report. Contact Keith Rogers at krogers@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0308. Find him on Twitter: @KeithRogers2.

A Son of Liberty
04-19-2014, 10:16 AM
There are a few progs commenting on Breitbart that the Branch Davidians and the Weavers both deserved to die for their socially odd views. We've entered the "no more talking" stage. They want us dead.

A discussion can only be fruitful when the interlocutors agree upon certain basic principles. Two people cannot expect a conversation to lead to a mutually acceptable resolution when they do not agree at a foundational level. It's like two people trying to debate which is the healthier fruit - the apple or the anvil.

They start from the premise that involuntary (forced) association is just, while we recognize that such an order violates the objective, observable fact of individual human sovereignty (tho' we may disagree upon the implications). Their position is de facto the violent position. They refuse to accept that we have free will. Thus they must force us to "get in line".

Everyone must understand at a fundamental level that all these trappings of formality - "representation", "dialogue", etc. - are but machinations meant to subvert our individual sovereignty. In other words, quite frankly, there never really was a "talking" stage. The moment they sought to talk with us about compromise was the moment we entered the "no more talking" stage.

A Son of Liberty
04-19-2014, 10:21 AM
This is good. Resistance, if it comes, does not come all at once. It usually starts with a small act of defiance by a small minority of the people. The tyrants respond to this defiance with the only means they know - more tyranny. This converts more people to the resistance and new acts of defiance crop up. This stimulates more tyranny. Etc. It seems to be almost an inevitable cascade once it gets going. We appear to be at the threshold of getting it going. The Fedcoats' next move is critical. There are literally millions of well-armed American who hate the government, but they need to be pushed over the line. A really heavy-handed move by the Fedcoats now could see the mobilization of a formidable citizen army VERY quickly. We may live to hear another shot heard round the world.

Nothing is going to "happen" en masse until enough people have nothing left to lose.

Deborah K
04-20-2014, 12:47 PM
http://i.imgur.com/s2xvvPz.png

Bundy supporters "own" title of "domestic terrorists."

"......He made the statement before a “Patriot Party” that started at 5 p.m. with music by Madison Rising and Ron Keel, who sang with Black Sabbath briefly in 1984."

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/bundy-supporters-party-welcome-domestic-terrorist-label


Ron Keel is one of us. He played at P.A.U.L. Festival. A really nice person!

liberalnurse
04-20-2014, 12:55 PM
Nothing is going to "happen" en masse until enough people have nothing left to lose.

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." :)

euphemia
04-20-2014, 01:22 PM
I thought terrorists hurt people. Who did the Bundy supporters injure? It looked as if the supporters were the only ones injured. And the cows. Don't forget about the cows.

Reid is an idiot. He is applying the worst label he knows because it will resonate with some people. Terrorists have a goal to hurt or kill people. Libertarians only want to live and let live.

2young2vote
04-20-2014, 02:24 PM
I thought terrorists hurt people. Who did the Bundy supporters injure? It looked as if the supporters were the only ones injured. And the cows. Don't forget about the cows.

Reid is an idiot. He is applying the worst label he knows because it will resonate with some people. Terrorists have a goal to hurt or kill people. Libertarians only want to live and let live.

But he's letting his cows eat the grass and that is supposedly stealing from the people. I guess that means you are "hurting" the people in Harry Reid's mind.

HOLLYWOOD
04-20-2014, 03:04 PM
Yeah, Karoun Demirjian, Washington Correspondent aka 'propagandist'. I wish callers would do a check/vetting on these media mouthpieces that intentionally deceive the public with intentionally presenting 1/2 the info, only what they want you to hear.

http://karoun.org/

About Karoun & Contact Info http://karoun.org/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2013-02-28-at-10.45.30-PM.png (http://karoun.org/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2013-02-28-at-10.45.30-PM.png)photo courtesy Maja Hitij

Karoun Demirjian writes, photographs and films as the Washington correspondent for the Las Vegas Sun, where she has covered the White House, the federal courts, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and the Nevada congressional delegation through two election cycles and many national debates about the economy, energy, immigration, housing and defense. Her articles won the Washington Press Club Foundation’s David Lynch memorial award for best regional coverage of Congress in 2012, and her video packages for key stories have appeared on the paper’s prize-winning website.
Karoun came to the Sun in the fall of 2010 after an overseas stint working as a stringer for the Associated Press in Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. She previously covered Capitol Hill for Congressional Quarterly (http://corporate.cqrollcall.com/) and the Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/), and also worked at the Tribune as a Chicago Metro reporter covering crime, the court beat and community news. She has been the recipient of numerous reporting fellowships, including from the International Center for Journalists and the National Press Foundation, and serves on the board of directors of the Regional Reporters’ Association.

She holds a Bachelor’s in History from Harvard University and a Master’s in International Law from the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy. Prior to becoming a reporter, Karoun worked for the United Nations (http://www.un.org/News/), co-authoring reports on peacekeeping operations, disaster relief and emerging democracies.

Karoun grew up in the Boston area. She fell into news at the college radio station where she worked as a classical DJ, and a few months later, ended up landing a first internship and producing job at National Public Radio’s All Things Considered. When not scribbling or shooting, Karoun still spends a great deal of time making music as a professional classical soprano. She is fluent in Armenian, competent in German and Arabic and presently studying Russian and Spanish.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEALuaoFC84

tod evans
04-20-2014, 04:14 PM
Yeah, Karoun Demirjian, Washington Correspondent aka 'propagandist'. I wish callers would do a check/vetting on these media mouthpieces that intentionally deceive the public with intentionally presenting 1/2 the info, only what they want you to hear.


Give me a soft-spoken old rancher over some highfalutin' city slicker for credibility any day....

Pericles
04-21-2014, 01:35 PM
Isn't it wonderful how "agreeable" everyone - Republican or Democrat - can be when they don't let pesky things like the Constitution get in the way?

I can agree with that.

devil21
04-21-2014, 03:25 PM
Looks like if Reid is going down, he's going to try to take one of ours with him. Trouble incoming for Mike Lee.

FBI corruption probe centers around Reid and Lee. (from march...not sure how this stayed under the radar so long)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/13/fbi-blocked-in-corruption-probe-involving-sens-rei/#ixzz2zUZRlD1y

DamianTV
04-21-2014, 04:31 PM
If Dirty Harry Reid promotes violence as the only viable solution to situations such as this, then to what extent will he continue to support that violence? Would he support violence if he is voted out against the majority of the people? Would he support extreme violence for breaking Jaywalking laws although the only victim will be the Jaywalker? To what end Reid? Any representative that prefers Govt Violence over seeking a peaceful resolution to any disagreement is an Enemy of Humanity.

phill4paul
04-21-2014, 09:53 PM
Looks like if Reid is going down, he's going to try to take one of ours with him. Trouble incoming for Mike Lee.

FBI corruption probe centers around Reid and Lee. (from march...not sure how this stayed under the radar so long)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/13/fbi-blocked-in-corruption-probe-involving-sens-rei/#ixzz2zUZRlD1y

Without the chief prostitutor on board ain't nothing gonna happen. Hell, the chief prostitutor is a criminal himself. Whatcha gonna do?

ctiger2
04-21-2014, 10:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9e8jdMhcBzc

phill4paul
04-21-2014, 10:08 PM
Heard on Hannity from Fiori that she had heard some feds tried to sell some weapons to the militia there. They told them to pound sand and move along. Lol.

HOLLYWOOD
04-21-2014, 10:12 PM
I thought I posted that somewhere... RICO is on Steroids with these legislative prostitutes. Shows you just how much time they have on their hands to wheel and deal, conspire, racketeer, coerce, influence, etc...
Looks like if Reid is going down, he's going to try to take one of ours with him. Trouble incoming for Mike Lee.

FBI corruption probe centers around Reid and Lee. (from march...not sure how this stayed under the radar so long)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/13/fbi-blocked-in-corruption-probe-involving-sens-rei/#ixzz2zUZRlD1y

AuH20
04-21-2014, 10:15 PM
Heard on Hannity from Fiori that she had heard some feds tried to sell some weapons to the militia there. They told them to pound sand and move along. Lol.

Explosives. Two militia men allegedly from Utah came bearing "gifts."

phill4paul
04-21-2014, 10:20 PM
Explosives. Two militia men allegedly from Utah came bearing "gifts."

Thanks for the clarification. Hell, that's the FBI MO regarding terrorism. I'm surprised they didn't want to give them a van full of ANFO just...because.

I don't know Nevada law but it would have been a coup if they could have arrested or detained for the local sheriff.

HOLLYWOOD
04-21-2014, 10:27 PM
Bring it on Reid... the people have had enough of professional prostitutes and thieves that have sold taxpayers out and have thrown the individuals/people overboard 50 years ago. Along with NO Rule of Law, which the government elites, privileged of wealth, corporatism, and cronyism, don't follow or enforce upon themselves. It's all a garbage "JUST-US" system, where people are getting tired of the 'Word Chess' these "Silver-Tongued-Devils" play everyday and conjure-up new ways through non-elected .gov agencies and departments that can destroy, steal, and kill with impunity... always screwing American, harming the Individual, violating human rights, and terrorizing the world... so long as they gain, control, and/or profit.

Reminds of this catchy video...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-s_k9N-BnA

nobody's_hero
04-22-2014, 06:17 AM
If Rand is gonna call Reid on his shenanigans, he'd better do so before Reid gets a first laugh.

FFS, expose that solar plant deal with the Chinese to broad daylight, and let Reid spend all his time and effort trying to deflect attacks on his character (using the term loosely) instead of building an army to crush patriots with.

jtap
04-22-2014, 08:19 AM
This whole thing makes me sick. I was especially bothered by the person siding with the feds who was contacting Senator Blunt. I guess the silver lining was how Blunt's staffer acted.