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RonPaulFanInGA
04-15-2014, 08:59 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/us-should-send-ground-troops-to-ukraine/2014/04/15/aa40b238-c408-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html


Despite much diplomatic effort, the situation in Ukraine worsens. A coordinated Russian campaign, including an invasion threat, special operations destabilization in eastern Ukraine patterned on the Crimea model, and warnings of gas cutoffs document ever more clearly Vladi*mir Putin’s aim to cripple the Ukrainian government and control much or even all of this strategically vital European country.

Wadesc
04-15-2014, 09:13 PM
what a novel idea!

Brian4Liberty
04-15-2014, 09:23 PM
About the author:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/07/19/a-key-job-is-finally-filled/


It took more than two months, but the White House has finally found a new deputy national security adviser. And in the end, the administration didn’t have to look very far.

President Bush will appoint Ambassador James Jeffrey, a high-level State Department official who coordinates its Iran policy, according to people familiar with the matter. Jeffrey’s appointment will be made later today, these people said.
...
A colleague of Jeffrey’s said that the White House would likely prove to be a better fit than the State Department had been. The colleague noted that Jeffrey is a staunch neoconservative, which left him often sharply at odds with other high-level State Department officials. Most of the neocons who once populated the administration left their posts in recent years as the Iraq war went off the skids. At the White House, though, Jeffrey will be able to work closely with two of the other surviving neocons: Deputy National Security Adviser Elliot Abrams and David Wurmser, one of Vice President Dick Cheney‘s top foreign policy staffers.

ClydeCoulter
04-15-2014, 09:26 PM
... some of Washington’s initial comments and actions suggested unwillingness to face the reality of Putin’s actions.

Really...face "the reality".


The Obama administration also bears the burden of its Middle Eastern policy of avoiding military conflicts.

Libya? Iraq? Afghanistan? Syria? He's such a conflict avoidance mouse. Wouldn't want to let a crisis go to waste, eh? /sarc


Can we rely on Washington to make hard military decisions?

Yep, everyone's been asking that, I think my wife asked that earlier today....NOT!
HARD military decisions are those that go with the desire of some against the welfare of the people of America. Is that what you mean?


Troops, even limited in number, send a much more powerful message. More difficult to rapidly withdraw once deployed, they can make the point that the United States is serious about defending NATO’s eastern borders.

Yeah, and those guys are expendable, right? And those borders are so close I can almost smell the Vodka. /sarc

Sorry...The following paragraphs were ruining my evening...no further comment.

Brian4Liberty
04-15-2014, 09:28 PM
The author is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Interesting that he is using the same talking points that McCain was using today. It can't be that the neoconservatives are coordinating their propaganda. That would be a crazy conspiracy theory.

unknown
04-15-2014, 09:29 PM
It was interesting to see how both the Left and Right sides of the media became pro-war when a true peace candidate emerged.

AngryCanadian
04-16-2014, 01:35 AM
What a Grand idea i bet this idiot also cheered the bombing of Serbia to.


James Jeffrey is a distinguished visiting fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. He was U.S. ambassador to Iraq in the Obama administration and U.S. ambassador to Kuwait from 1996 to 1999.

anaconda
04-16-2014, 02:06 AM
NATO member states in Eastern Europe are asking the same question many in the Middle East have: Can we rely on Washington to make hard military decisions?

Yes we can make the hard military decisions. And the answer is "no."

anaconda
04-16-2014, 02:09 AM
The author is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

What a surprise.

Brian4Liberty
04-16-2014, 02:13 PM
What a surprise.

Shocking I tell you!

2334

Ender
04-16-2014, 02:17 PM
The author is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Interesting that he is using the same talking points that McCain was using today. It can't be that the neoconservatives are coordinating their propaganda. That would be a crazy conspiracy theory.

Oh, heavens, no! ;)

My suggestion is that the entire CFR be sent to "quell the Ukraine crisis"; they can tell us how it went.

HOLLYWOOD
04-16-2014, 03:08 PM
Yep, always consider the source. Drastic times, require drastic measures... Half the Ukrainians don't want any of the enslavement policies of NATO-US-Western pillagers. I bought up first hand knowledge and posted on this forum of the huge Ukrainian military defections in the Crimea to the Russian military. Yes, the Russians offered and of course the benefits were better. The same is happening in Eastern Ukraine today... of course you'll hear the opposite on US/Western corporate-Fascist media, so do your research and verify the sources. I wonder how Kerry-Piatt-Nuland-Lew and the cabal feel on ANOTHER FAILED covert operation.
The author is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Interesting that he is using the same talking points that McCain was using today. It can't be that the neoconservatives are coordinating their propaganda. That would be a crazy conspiracy theory.

TomtheTinker
04-16-2014, 03:28 PM
The author is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Interesting that he is using the same talking points that McCain was using today. It can't be that the neoconservatives are coordinating their propaganda. That would be a crazy conspiracy theory.


Stop being bad for liberty movement.

Lucille
04-16-2014, 03:44 PM
I'm about sick and tired of neo-Trots red and blue being front and center of every major news organization in the country. Day after day, it's a steady parade of wrong, and it's especially horrible on Sunday mornings. It gives their destructive and utterly failed ideology the appearance of credibility and support. Shame on Bezos for continuing to give those losers ink.

Uriah
04-16-2014, 03:51 PM
Sending US troops is the worst thing to do. It will start, at the very least, an indirect hot war with Russia. Flows of natural gas from Russia to Europe will stop. Ukraine's largest trading partner is Russia and all Russo-Ukranian trade will stop as well. The county which we would supposedly be helping will be reduced to a poor disheveled beggar.

Pericles
04-16-2014, 03:53 PM
If there is a valid reason to not legalize pot, writing editorials under the influence would be one.

Demigod
04-16-2014, 03:57 PM
Sending US soldiers to quell a revolt by Russian citizens against what they see as USA puppets on the border with Russia is a really smart decision,if you are mentally handicapped although I am pretty certain that even a mentally handicapped person would not even think of a such a bad idea.

And even if they are sent what more will they be than a blood sacrifice.Do this people honestly think that a few hundred soldiers could make any kind of difference ON the BORDER with Russia.All they will do is become martyrs for some politicians cause and nothing else.And the fact that Russia is the route trough which a certain army has to retreated trough or it could be faced with retreating trough enemy held territory whose fighters can be easily supplied with weapons totally escapes most of this morons.

This is not COD or some Tom Clancy novel,people will die,regions will be burned to the ground and 99% of this military porn and propagating how "we have to act now because Poland and Estonia are next" done by second rate history buffs who have read a few quotes here and there is simply astonishing.Some people have not experienced war on their backs for generations that it has become an adrenalin sport for them.

Brian4Liberty
04-16-2014, 04:35 PM
I'm about sick and tired of neo-Trots red and blue being front and center of every major news organization in the country. Day after day, it's a steady parade of wrong, and it's especially horrible on Sunday mornings. It gives their destructive and utterly failed ideology the appearance of credibility and support. Shame on Bezos for continuing to give those losers ink.

While America slept, the neo-Marxists/Leninists/Trotskyites took over the media, the education system, and finally, the majority of both political parties.

First it was "we are all Keynesians now", then it was "we are all Progressives now" and when the truth finally comes out, they will trumpet that "we are all (neo)Marxists now".

boneyard bill
04-16-2014, 10:48 PM
Krauthamer was spouting pretty much the same nonsense today, also. So yes, it looks like the neocons have their story together and are pushing pretty much the same line.

Would NATO members buy this? I'm skeptical. Would Poland allow the US to deploy troops on its border to "deter" Russia when it could escalate into WW III? Does Putin have territorial ambitions in Eastern Europe? Doubtful. Do the Eastern Europeans think he does? Also doubtful. Are the Europeans aware that the US was out to scuttle their attempted diplomatic settlement of the Ukrainian problem? Of course they do, thanks to Victoria Nuland. I suspect that our NATO allies would veto this crazy scheme. Hopefully, the Obama administration has as much sense as they do.