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TomtheTinker
04-15-2014, 03:43 PM
Ron Paul group to defy IRS

"There is no legitimate reason for the IRS to know who donates to Campaign for Liberty," Megan Stiles, the communications director at Campaign for Liberty, told the Washington Examiner in an email on Tuesday. "We believe the First Amendment is on our side as evidenced by cases such as NAACP v. Alabama and International Union UAW v. National Right to Work. Many 501(c)(4) organizations protect the privacy of their donors in the very same way as Campaign for Liberty. For some reason the IRS has now chosen to single out Campaign for Liberty for special attention. We plan to fight this all the way."

Ron Paul's nonprofit Campaign for Liberty will fight the Internal Revenue Service's demand that it reveal its donor list to the agency, despite having already been fined for refusing to do so.



http://washingtonexaminer.com/ron-paul-group-to-defy-irs/article/2547261

phill4paul
04-15-2014, 03:49 PM
There is absolutely no reason for the IRS to have this information. None.

Anti Federalist
04-15-2014, 03:52 PM
There is absolutely no reason for the IRS to have this information. None.

Your lack of compliance is disturbing comrade.

You are reported.

LibertyEagle
04-15-2014, 03:53 PM
I told you guys I'd check to see if this was for real and yes, unfortunately, it is.

Anti Federalist
04-15-2014, 03:54 PM
There is absolutely no reason for the IRS to have this information. None.

Seriously though, of course there is a reason.

The continuing compilation of lists of AmeriKans who are, or could potentially be, troublemakers.

Freedom.

donnay
04-15-2014, 03:55 PM
"Sorry fellas it fell off one of our trucks when we were moving."

mad cow
04-15-2014, 03:55 PM
Lerner's gone,and the band plays on.

Occam's Banana
04-15-2014, 04:05 PM
There is absolutely no reason for the IRS to have this information. None.

Ahhhhhhhh, there! That's better ...

satchelmcqueen
04-15-2014, 04:29 PM
this is ridiculous. at least i know ron wont budge on this one.

phill4paul
04-15-2014, 04:32 PM
Ahhhhhhhh, there! That's better ...

Yes. Thank you for the gentle correction.

phill4paul
04-15-2014, 04:34 PM
Your lack of compliance is disturbing comrade.

You are reported.

Considering I've gone several years now without communicating with the bastards I'm pretty sure they already are aware.

FindLiberty
04-15-2014, 05:01 PM
They might just be planning to merge the potus's weely kill list with the RP contributor list to create a nice new TO DO List.

DaninPA
04-15-2014, 06:37 PM
Molon Labe, bitches.

cajuncocoa
04-15-2014, 06:40 PM
Surprised?

Dianne
04-15-2014, 07:03 PM
YES !!!!!!! Actually I heard half the IRS are being "let go", because not enough filing tax returns under Obozo's regime ...

If anything goes down on this... like Feds with 10 hours of training, hiding behind their vehicles ... let me know ... I think I can hide behind my car door too .... shit ... my car door is General Motors !!!!!!! That's ok, I'm sure Eric Holder has my back.

angelatc
04-15-2014, 07:05 PM
This is a bigger deal than I thought it was. They're intentionally breaking the law in order to challenge the law. Go C4L!

NoOneButPaul
04-15-2014, 07:35 PM
Were getting closer and closer to the real Revolution folks... Rand is our only hope.

amy31416
04-15-2014, 08:30 PM
My ex worked for a public library and when the Patriot Act passed and required them to turn over patron records, they started destroying the records.

You can't give what you don't have.

Brian4Liberty
04-15-2014, 09:00 PM
This is a direct attack on the First Amendment by the Marxists.

unknown
04-15-2014, 09:20 PM
Were getting closer and closer to the real Revolution folks... Rand is our only hope.

http://i.imgur.com/cOOR2Z0.jpg

jtap
04-16-2014, 09:15 AM
Does anyone know if they paid this fine they already received? It would irk me to know a percentage of my donations was given to the IRS to pay this fine that shouldn't have been made.

Dr.3D
04-16-2014, 09:36 AM
Seems like this would be a pretty good indicator that there is no need to keep a list of donors. In fact, it's a bad idea to keep a list of donors.

Brian4Liberty
04-16-2014, 09:55 AM
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Ronin Truth
04-16-2014, 10:31 AM
Sounds like Ron could use a couple of real kick ass lawyers.

Superfly
04-16-2014, 11:52 AM
Well of course they want information on the liberty crowd. That's the biggest threat to the leviathan.

Brian4Liberty
04-16-2014, 02:19 PM
456527223478968321

JK/SEA
04-16-2014, 02:26 PM
Rons on Cavuto right now on this...

Brian4Liberty
04-16-2014, 03:11 PM
Related:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?449868-Lois-Lerner-tried-to-criminally-prosecute-conservative-groups

Ecolibertarian
04-16-2014, 03:19 PM
My inclination is to find an IRS complaint number and let them know, en masse, that we aren't very enthused about this idea.

Paulbot99
04-16-2014, 03:38 PM
Never stop fighting them.

Dr.3D
04-16-2014, 03:39 PM
Rons on Cavuto right now on this...
I'm sure I missed it by now. I hope somebody has a tube of it though.

Thor
04-16-2014, 03:51 PM
"Mrs. Lerner, has the IRS targeted 'tea party' and 'liberty' and conservative groups?"

"I plead the 5th, now hand over the names of all the donors to the C4L."

ZENemy
04-16-2014, 04:16 PM
Were getting closer and closer to the real Revolution folks... Rand is our only hope.

http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Rose/dp/145075063X

mad cow
04-16-2014, 04:22 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Rose/dp/145075063X



Paperback
from $12.00

I guess Larkin Rose ain't one of them anti-IP Anarchists.

Carson
04-16-2014, 04:46 PM
So when do our visits begin?

Brian4Liberty
04-16-2014, 04:55 PM
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asurfaholic
04-16-2014, 05:19 PM
My inclination is to find an IRS complaint number and let them know, en masse, that we aren't very enthused about this idea.

Sure go ahead, send them your info...

I actually operate under the assumption that everything I do is being watched, analyzed, and stored. It helps me carefully construct a mountain of history that I can be ready to stand up and defend at any point in my life. Not that it always works out like that, but it helps.

qh4dotcom
04-16-2014, 06:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/cOOR2Z0.jpg

Morgan Freeman is wrong, you know...he screwed up big time

http://web.archive.org/web/20121013132713/http://newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Morgan_Freeman.php

Occam's Banana
04-17-2014, 04:37 AM
Were getting closer and closer to the real Revolution folks... Rand is our only hope.
http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Rose/dp/145075063X

See also: The Cult of the Presidency - America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power (by Gene Healy)
http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/documents/cult-of-the-presidency-pb.pdf



http://www.amazon.com/Most-Dangerous-Superstition-Larken-Rose/dp/145075063X

Paperback
from $12.00
I guess Larkin Rose ain't one of them anti-IP Anarchists.

What makes you think that?

Free PDF of The Most Dangerous Superstition (by Larken Rose): http://www.freeyourmindaz.com/uploads/1/2/8/3/12830241/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-2011.pdf

From the end matter of The Most Dangerous Superstition:


A Note About the Copyright ...

A “copyright” is usually an implied threat (“Don’t copy this, or else!”). While I hope that anyone who likes this book will buy additional copies from me, if someone does copy this book without my permission, that would not make me feel justified in using force against that person, or, my own or via “government.” I copyrighted the book primarily so that no one else could copyright it and thereby use the violence of the state to prevent me from distributing it.

mad cow
04-17-2014, 08:08 AM
Then why the 12 bucks?Give it away.Every Anarchist here seems happy to point out every 'contradiction' by liberty-minded candidates we are trying to get elected as some sort of mortal sin.
I just thought I would point that out.

Occam's Banana
04-17-2014, 08:25 AM
Then why the 12 bucks? Give it away.

It *is* being given away. I provided a link to a free PDF of the book.
Did you really not bother to read (or try to understand) what he said?
"I hope that anyone who likes this book will buy additional copies from me [...]"

Because physical objects like printed & bound books cost money to produce.
Because he'd like to make a little cash from those willing to pay him for his efforts.
Because [any number of things].

Being "anti-IP" does NOT require one to be unwilling to accept money from people who want to pay you for something.

There is NO contradiction in this.


Every Anarchist here seems happy to point out every 'contradiction' by liberty-minded candidates we are trying to get elected as some sort of mortal sin.
I just thought I would point that out.

I am an "Anarchist here" - I generally support Rand, Amash, Massie, etc. There are others who do so as well.
For example, FSP-Rebel is also an "Anarchist here" - and he is one of Rand's staunchest & most avid supporters.
So please provide the evidence for your accusation that he and I "point out every 'contradiction' by liberty-minded candidates [...]."
Otherwise, you are talking out of your ass and needlessly stirring shit up. I just thought I would point that out.

Matt Collins
04-17-2014, 09:00 AM
Seems like this would be a pretty good indicator that there is no need to keep a list of donors. In fact, it's a bad idea to keep a list of donors.
Uhh... in order to raise money you have to have a list of donors so that you know who to ask to contribute.

Dr.3D
04-17-2014, 09:16 AM
Uhh... in order to raise money you have to have a list of donors so that you know who to ask to contribute.
People shouldn't need to be asked for contributions. If people want to contribute, they will.
Myself, I won't contribute to an organization that sends me solicitations for funds.

osan
04-17-2014, 09:46 AM
There is absolutely no reason for the IRS to have this information. None.

You're just a hater. Look everybody, a HATER!

BURN THE WITCH!

osan
04-17-2014, 11:51 AM
Seriously though, of course there is a reason.

The continuing compilation of lists of AmeriKans who are, or could potentially be, troublemakers.

Freedom.

Well, the onus rests with us because we are the ones in the position of respondent. Theye transgress and put the ball in our court. What do we do? We demur. The tacit message here is that we accept the transgression as legitimate. That is on each and very one of us.

Consider the great "victory" in Nevada... Not. The moment an agent placed hands on one of the defenders the ball was in the defender's court. IMO they should have brought the fight right back at them. They chose differently. Their decision.

Speaking purely theoretically, failing to answer trespass when one is otherwise capable seems to lend credibility to the trespasser's claim to authority. While in reality this may not be true upon argument, it does give tyrants and their willing agents (courts, e.g.) a
toehold from which to advance corrupt objectives via the lousy reasoning based on the tacitly presumed "failure". It is as lousy as it gets but it is commonly employed as the past 200++ years of rotten SCOTUS decisions attest.

Brian4Liberty
08-08-2022, 11:08 AM
IRS is now an arm of the Democrat Party...

CaptUSA
08-08-2022, 11:11 AM
IRS is now an arm of the Democrat Party...

https://d2g8igdw686xgo.cloudfront.net/47568496_1587575251666138_r.jpeg

Swordsmyth
08-20-2022, 10:48 PM
I don't know if this guy is guilty or not.
But this is exactly what would have happened falsely to Ron Paul if he won.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaQ3Lyr1UQg